I'm done.

[The DarkSlayer]

Oh i don't know, a farewell thread maybe, just maybe lol

[windpl]

If there were an award for being rude and disrespectful, I can think of 2 that would be running neck and neck, It is no ones bloody business if she logs in or not. And it really doesn't matter if it can be seen as "drama queen behaviour", name one freaking person on the internet that isn't guilty of it. You guys are pathetic, I mean REALLY????.

 

Yes keep it up ant you will force this thread deletion. Fap or something maybe that will blow your steam off and read the rules, my post had valid point of concern

[Guest Spikes]

I, for one thing, will miss you Queen B, cause i like your posts. Although i lurk a lot and don't post much.

 

You're right though, i have noticed some people going ass hollkolics on some discussions. To be fair, most of them don't last much here and their posts are quite boring. Smells overconpesation for other stuff they miss, to me. 

 

I really understand your disappointment about making friends and after a while realising it doesn't last. That's the internet mentality,and it happens a LOT in Real Life too, don't sweat it much.

 

More than 50% of humanity is amazingly stupid. The rest are very okey. Problem is, the bad 50%+ tends to flok together,and on the same places, they attract each other, so they seem more like 90%. So don't worry about it and ignore the noobs on your posts/threads.

 

Btway, i remmember some people who have posted in multiple times in LL,in different posts and times, that they're leaving or taking breaks only to post again the next day. Sometimes we feel one way, then we calm down. It happens and it's normal.

 

[Rayblue]

All right, my friend just came to me and he said he aint talking Skryim on Tumblr anymore; he read what Queen Bee had gone through and said he posted something that fucking pissed off half the TES fandom there about what he thought was good modding advice (he deleted it since then but still some are cussing him down).

 

He once left MMOs for good because of the entitled fandom/player base, and then discovered Skyrim, later went into modding. After a string of good mods, he posted on Tumblr what he thought was good modding advice. The fandom there on Tumblr told him he was full of shit, including some known members and modders on Nex.

 

He said, "There's no shortage of flaming assholes in gaming, right?" And he's also filtering them off his Tumblr feed, but has plans to get a new account.

 

 

 

 

[ChancellorKremlin]

 

Agreed with kremlin. I really don't see why she cannot log in. It is her choice just as much as she chose to not post anymore. Also why are you even tracking that?

 

It can been seen as drama queen behaviour?

 

 

That's up to the moderators to decide. So until either I, Gregathit, or Ashal says so, that is not the case, and anything else is backseat moderating, which we'd appreciate if people didn't dabble in. 

 

I'm confused as to the intended point of this thread.

 

And I'm confused as to the intended points of some of the posts in this thread. But until either of those break forum rules, people are free to come and go as they please. 

 

 

If there were an award for being rude and disrespectful, I can think of 2 that would be running neck and neck, It is no ones bloody business if she logs in or not. And it really doesn't matter if it can be seen as "drama queen behaviour", name one freaking person on the internet that isn't guilty of it. You guys are pathetic, I mean REALLY????.

 

Yes keep it up ant you will force this thread deletion. Fap or something maybe that will blow your steam off and read the rules, my post had valid point of concern

 

 

And you've made your concerns voiced, and we've taken them into consideration in regards to this thread. We have found that (thus far) it does not break the rules. 

 

So again, leave the actual moderation to us. 

[Ichabod]

Sorry to see you go.

Take care of yourself out there.

[Rayblue]

So far, I don't see anything wrong about this except she's voicing out what appears to be her frustration with dealing with those having no decency or respect, and of the way some fans rub her the wrong way. I understand that, and sadly, in every fandom there will be the flaming zealous asshats who are on par with the Taliban or the Inquisition.

[XJ347]

Well I pop in and out and talk from time to time, I don't normally get in depth conversations with people, but there have been a few. Point being we had a few conversations over the year and half, and I will miss that.

 

I have seen the quality in conversations drop a bit. It feels like as more and more Nexus people get banned some come here and continue their shit posting, so as more time passes it just gets worse and worse as more join. You really see it in UNP vs CBBE conversations... People attacking the other side over a personal preference, totally stupid.

[Captain Cobra]

I have seen the quality in conversations drop a bit. It feels like as more and more Nexus people get banned some come here and continue their shit posting, so as more time passes it just gets worse and worse as more join. You really see it in UNP vs CBBE conversations... People attacking the other side over a personal preference, totally stupid.

 

It all goes downhill from here.

 

Hope you goyim are ready for the hugbox, there's no stopping it now.

[Northern]

Guess these forums are not only for modders, but also for good companions in the world of pr0n. I truly hope that you will find your friends, and hope that you'll be back.

You can find ignorant people everywhere they just don't worthy for attention.

 

Think about it. Stay for more lusty mods, or just visit us sometimes. *hugs*

[Guest]

As a member of loverslab for several years now I try my hardest to stay active and aware as much as possible. After all, this really is the first internet forum that I ever became so involved with as I am now. Despite this, I continuously find myself oblivious to the arguing and extreme dissent among other members here. So when I discover that an active member has been banned or is leaving I usually find myself shocked and surprised. Perhaps this is because I tend to avoid heated discussions as much as I can or perhaps it's simply because I log in after the responsible events have already occurred. Regardless:

 

Queen Bee, It's sad to see you go, but I understand. Like others, while I never really conversed with you here or off the site, I truly did enjoy your posts and comments. All in all, I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors and If you do choose to return here, know that there are many who will welcome you back with open arms.

[Emily]

Queen, you're getting marry right?

[AgentChicken]

I'm not the most active person on the forum, But whenever i saw a Topic that Queen posted on i knew it was going to be a Great read. Sad to see a one of a kind Loverslab member leaving

[Myst42]

Long Live the Queen! 

 

I was a "lurker" member from long ago... I occasionally posted questions and stuff  but remain shadowy until recently I started posting more. So sadly I never got to meet the Queen more, but she seems like a nice reasonable person.

And for what Ive seen, I can completely understand some of the reasons why she leaves. It gets tiring to make a post with the best of your intentions and always pissing someone off, who immediately jumps at your neck as if you insulted their mother. Always thinking the worse of you. Psychologically, it speaks rather bad of them than you, you reflect their real inner intentions which are to troll and insult. Its not right.

I miss the days where I was shadowy. The behaviour I saw around here was much nicer. LL was a nice and cosy dark place where you could find what you were looking for... sex, rare mods, rips, etc... It was for me the upper secret level hidden from the eyes of mainstream sites like Nexus. Like some kind of "mercenary tavern" where you could find all the dark and secret stuff. People from every race and creed and story, and nobody could tell you anything.

Now its popular and the magic is gone 

Haters and fighting everywhere, when I only want the best.

The reasons why I havent taken the same path is because I still need to mod a bit more, and Ive found some reasonable and nice people here too asides from the bad things, I can only hope the trolling doesnt overcome nice people.

 

I didnt get to meet much of the Queen but she was one of the nice people here. Wherever you go, farewell, and have a very good life...

[laz0r]

Well I joined this forum a few weeks ago and don't really know anyone here, but in terms of the internet in general I can offer short but potentially informative insight. I've met tons of people over the internet, primarily playing MMOs. I stopped playing these games two years ago, because to be honest they mostly suck now. Out of all the people I played with, I'm still in contact with about three or four, this is out of hundreds. 

 

I guess my point is that people you meet over the internet or "friends" that you meet over the internet in a lot of circumstances don't consider you a friend at all. I think it's probably due to the fact that they don't know you in real life, so they feel no obligation to show the same respect they otherwise would to the people they've met in the outside world. I wouldn't expect to gain many strong friendships over the internet, of course I'm not saying it's impossible, but no one should ever expect to have long lasting friendships with someone they meet online; it's just not the same. 

 

Regardless, from what I've seen on this forum most of the people seem fairly well mannered with the exception of a few. At least the moderators here don't act like the ones on nexus, where they smash their ban hammer on anyone with an opinion. Anyways, sorry to see you leave and good luck in the future. 

[Daguy]

As a member of loverslab for several years now I try my hardest to stay active and aware as much as possible. After all, this really is the first internet forum that I ever became so involved with as I am now. Despite this, I continuously find myself oblivious to the arguing and extreme dissent among other members here. So when I discover that an active member has been banned or is leaving I usually find myself shocked and surprised. Perhaps this is because I tend to avoid heated discussions as much as I can or perhaps it's simply because I log in after the responsible events have already occurred. Regardless:

 

Almost my situation exactly.

 

I'm afraid I never really came to know you, Queen, and thats a shame. I wish you well none the less. In hindsight I realise I don't really know anyone here, as I don't really get invovled in the social threads as i'm a somewhat private person. Thats a shame really.

 

However, why leave? I really don't see the point in that, when anyone does it, unless the issue is with site policy or the owners/moderators. And even then it has to be some pretty severe or unreconcilable issue. Something like that is why Lovers Lab exists in the first place. But just having issues with other members? Just stop posting for a while and lurk some, or post in different things/intended towards different people. I myself can go for weeks without visting, and I never really develop a huge postcount on any forum, but i've been with LL since the beginning, and the idea of the site since the friction back on Wolflore.

 

Losing interest in Skyrim, however, I can understand making the sites content and such less appealing. I actually like Skyrim less than Cyrodiil and the CW more than the Mojave, so I can empathize on a lesser scale. (Not to say say I don't enjoy Skyrim or NV.)

 

I don't see myself ever leaving LL. Perhaps because I was here at the founding, though I don't know if that makes me a founding member or somesuch as I suspect thats more for those who actually physically designed and built the site and mods, but even though people do seem to be more peeveish and less pleasant than they used to be on the whole (as always happens as sites grow larger), I can only see LL for what it was intended to be. Its a place for people who like and create adult modifications and content to gather and not judge. As far as i'm aware we are a lone island for adult content; where Nexus and other sites like Wolfore have restrictive rules and over zealous mods. We have a rather... unique community, based on that fact, I think.

 

We've gone from being a handfull of dissatisfied players and modders on a small and stagnant forum, to a small forum of our own dedicated to LoversPK and Oblivion adult mods with half a dozen members, to a sprawling forum with '479 users are online (in the past 10 minutes.' Frankly, I don't know where LL is goign in the long run, but i want to stay and watch.

[nonusnomeni]

Queenie,

don't leave, please...

 

 

[ChancellorKremlin]

Well, I didn't want to do this...

 

There once was a woman from New York,

Who'd fend off trolls with a fork,

Oh she'd fight and she'd reason,

Until it was nigh in the season,

That lovely woman from New York.

 

There once was a woman from New York,

Who'd scribble on a board with some chalk,

She'd got tired of Skyrim, she'd got tired of them,

She'd had it up to brim, and wouldn't read her PM,

That still lovely woman from New York.

 

So I guess what I'm trying to say is... we  you. Oh, and read your PM's I guess... 

[Ark of Truth]

CK you never cease to amaze me.

[Mailamea]

LOL CK

[Rayblue]

I think that could be the last time we'll be hearing from her.

 

I'm sorry, but sometimes the Internet is a very harsh place.

[yosecretsquirrel]

I'm probably going to come off as some kind of fossil, but I'm going to say it anyway. What I hear from Queen Bee is typical of those who were either born to the age of internet or failing that, incapable of recognizing that the internet is 90% fantasy. In other words if you expect to create a real life out of the internet, then you are suffering from user error syndrome. The way social networking over IP was supposed to be used was to work was to enable new fast ways for friends and families from the real world, people you already know, to communicate. Somehow though the human aspect has managed to focus on using it as a substitute for real world experience, and as a way to avoid all the hard work and pain that goes into obtaining a real life social network.

 

A recent anthropological study shows that the average individual social network interacts with about 150 other individuals over the course of a year. These numbers include relationships as trivial as your butcher and as primary as your Mother, and of course refers to real world interaction not internet. Of those relationships, we have just 31 "close relationships" on average which include family members, friends and coworkers. So roughly 4/5ths of the social circle we surround ourselves with are trivial relationships that have little or no emotional bearing on our lives in real life. The study showed that these numbers have been consistent throughout the history of modern man. The average number of characters in a Shakespeare play? 31! 

 

However with the advent of the internet and its social media networks has changed all that and not for the better. That 4/5ths ratio has now been diminished and, as a result, those who were born into the internet era have shown a higher dissatisfaction with their own social circles simply because their perception of what it should look like is defined by how many "likes" or "followers" they have, rather than who in their life would actually care or come to their aid in times of strife or vise-versa. Clicking "friend me" is not the same process as just being a real friend.

 

I was born in the sixties. There was no real public internet as I grew up, I didn't even own a computer until the late '90s. I didn't own a cell phone until the mid '90s and that was for business( cell phones back then did one one thing, place or receive calls, texting was by way of pagers and limited to a dozen characters entered by phone.) I was forced to interact with people in a face to face real world fashion. As a result it is much easier to ignore all the BS of the internet, and am a bit quicker to recognize that if I haven't been to a BBQ in someones backyard or had them to mine, they really aren't my friends nor I theirs. Nor are they likely to bear my children, borrow my lawnmower or invite me out to their cabin for a week. In short I know that there isn't any rational reason to invest any emotion into people I meet online, until in some rare circumstance they actually integrate into my real world life.

 

Getting upset over the sudden demise of contact with someone I never even shared a drink with or shook hands with seems like an insane way to live, especially when there no real world consequences to online behaviour beyond the imaginary loss of an imaginary friend.

 

P.S.

If you are wondering why I would know about that social network study and why it would be important enough to remember, it is because I was recently diagnosed as suffering from Schizotypal Disorder, which means not only do I not care about having a social structure, online or in real life, my real world social circle will eventually dwindle to zero by my own mental proclivities (it's already gone from the norms I quoted above to low single digits in 5 short years).

 

So statistics like those I mentioned are a curiosity for me now. Hell, I can't even enjoy a good MMO anymore. I have become the perfect specimen of the lone wolf and nothing can change that. I have no choice but to settle for creating an imaginary social network out of NPC's. If that seems sad and lonely, it is, but I get by. Just remember what has happened to me could happen to you like a flip of a switch, so savor your real friendships today and show your family unrestricted love at all times.

[Cozy]

You and CK were the first two friends I made here and it breaks my heart to see you go, but in the end it's your call and i respect that. I have looked for you on YIM and even sent you an offline message trying to explain what happened. I feel guilty in that my life encroached upon me to the point I felt I had to stop posting all together but it had nothing to do with you. Plus I never had any intention of quitting for good. I just needed some time to pull myself together. I've always tried to be a friend to you, and be there for you and I feel i failed in someways, because due to the own nature of my life I just couldn't be around as much as I wanted.

 

When I stopped posting initially both here and on YIM I had a nervous breakdown brought on by some horrid circumstances in my life. I don't like mentioning this publicly but, what the hell, was catatonic for little over a week and for the first time since I was a teenager spent 5 days in psyche-ward. I just fell apart from constantly putting my own emotions on the back burner in order to cope with the overwhelming responsibility that has been thrust upon me. In my case it isn't so much depression, as it is circumstance which creates an atmosphere of despair, making it impossible to overcome the depression until I get the surgery on my spine, and even then it's not a sure thing.  Long story... However I do try to fight. Yet I am constantly being called upon. I can't count how many times I am up and down in the course of a day. Most likely wouldn't realize due to my capacity to post but I am usually not in front of my computer.

 

In the last few months since I stopped posting, I haven't been near my computer much if at all. But that doesn't mean I don't care. I just feel guilty like perhaps you took it personally that I up and stopped communicating with you when I had my breakdown. Mostly because it came without warning and out of nowhere I just vanished. I was hard to get ahold of to begin with too, so I just worry because I really do think fondly of you. I've tried emailing you but i keep getting bounce backs. Someone told me you have an e-mail in your profile, I dunno if it's different than the one you gave me but I'll try that.

 

I just hope your well and I hope that your choice to leave the forums has given you some semblance of peace. I just fear that it's somehow partially my fault that you decided to leave. I've always thought very, very fondly of you. You are a remarkable woman, strong, intelligent, beautiful. I hope you're doing well and you have my best wishes of course.

 

While I doubt you will read this I will end this as I always ended our conversations,

 

Huggles, and Snuggles,

~ Cozy

[Angrybird]

In every forum there's always a member who'll wish for the good old times.

[Emily]

..... true.