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-First build of oblivion run stable, 220+ mods, play for 2 hours or more, one to two CTD

-Update most mods, added few new mods, rebuild batch, start over playthrough, continued CTD

-Removed all mods, uninstalled Oblivion

-Reinstall Oblivion, mods, remove regs, clean regs, clean install

-CTD every 5 minutes, with same mods


I usually tested the build by going alone the road around Imperial lsle. Start from one point and see if I get CTD. I usually pass the starting before CTD, sometime just CTD not far from starting point. All these mods are all the same I have in the old build. No 4k texture, big graphic texture. I usually solve the problem by added mod one by one. I even installed mods one by one. Even running a few of these mods I still getting CTD before reaching my starting point. I know the problems with Oblivion. I have every OBSE plugin. I ran these mods before, I just never experience this much CTD before. I am running out of ideas of what to do. Any help would be appreciated.


00  Oblivion.esm
01  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.74]
02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.5.11]
03  Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm
04  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
05  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]
06  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
07  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]
08  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]
09  A_Bloody_Mess.esm
0A  CM Partners.esm
0B  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.2]
0C  Knights - Revelation.esm
0D  Av Latta Magicka.esm  [Version 1.16]
0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.6]
++  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.9]
11  LoadingsAddon.esp
12  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]
13  Consistent Beggar Voices.esp
14  Idle Dialogue.esp  [Version 1.3]
15  ElzMoreVoice.esp
16  ElzMoreVoice - Original Voice Replacer.esp
17  WindowLightingSystem.esp
18  AliveWaters.esp
19  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
1A  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
1B  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp
1C  DialogTweaks.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
1D  ImprovedSigns.esp
1E  More Effective Enchantments.esp  [Version 3.1]
1F  NBB.esp
20  Camping.esp
21  Better Dungeons.esp
22  TreasureChest.esp
23  TreasureChest - ALEX for OOO.esp
++  Rare - LockPick_RepairHammer.esp
24  aaaaExtraNpcs.esp
25  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
26  Travelers of Cyrodiil.esp
27  Populated Prisons.esp  [Version 1.2]
28  Shivering Isles Travelers.esp
29  BookTrackerOBSE.esp
2A  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
2B  Display Stats.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
2C  FormID Finder4.esp
2D  MigOxygen.esp  [Version 1.1]
++  MigOxygen - DrowningSounds.esp  [Version 1.1]
2E  UnidirectionalAttack.esp
2F  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]
30  DLCHorseArmor.esp
31  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
32  DLCOrrery.esp
33  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
34  DLCVileLair.esp
35  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
36  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
37  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
38  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
39  Book Jackets DLC.esp
3A  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
3B  Immersive Weapons.esp
3C  DMRA BBB Armamentarium Complete.esp
++  DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp
3D  DLCThievesDen.esp
3E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.15]
3F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.14]
40  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]
41  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
42  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
43  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
44  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]
45  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]
46  Creature Diversity.esp
++  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]
47  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]
48  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
49  WAC.esp
4A  0WeynonPrioryAlive.esp
4B  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]
4C  DMRA BBB Artifacts Complete.esp
4D  Bounty Quests.esp
4E  Bounty Quests OOO Patch.esp
4F  DoTheUnderdark.esp
50  Dungeons of Tamriel.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
51  Evergloam.esp
52  Fighters Guild Quests.esp
53  Hentai Mania.esp
54  300_White Stallion 4.esp
55  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.7]
56  Mages Guild Quests.esp
57  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
58  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.12]
59  DLCFrostcrag.esp
5A  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
5B  Knights.esp
5C  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8]
5D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.5.10]
++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]
5E  OOOExtended.esp
5F  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  DMRA BBB Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.esp
++  TreasureChest - OOO.esp
60  Cobl Tweaks - OOO.esp  [Version 1.74]
61  Oblivion Uncut.esp
62  Oblivion Uncut - OOO Adaptation.esp  [Version 1.5]
++  DLCBattlehorn-OblivionUncut Patch.esp
63  Knights - Revelation.esp
++  DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp
++  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp
64  The Lost Spires.esp
65  MannimarcoComplete.esp
66  MannimarcoRevisited.esp
67  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]
68  MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp
69  Daedric Shrine Ruins.esp
6A  DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp  [Version 1.2.6]
6B  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
6C  BlackwoodJungle.esp
6D  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.43]
6E  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]
6F  Oblivifall - Female Armors.esp  [Version 2.1]
70  Grass Overhaul Universal.esp
71  Unique Landscapes.esp  [Version Dummy]
72  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 2]
73  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 2]
74  xulTheHeath.esp  [Version 2]
75  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
76  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 2]
77  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 2]
78  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 2]
79  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 2]
7A  HentaiMania2.esp
7B  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 2]
7C  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
7D  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 2]
7E  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
7F  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
80  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
81  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 2]
82  xulPantherRiver.esp  [Version 2]
83  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
84  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 2]
85  Brena River Ravine Daedric Shrine Ruins Patch.esp
86  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
87  LetThePeopleDrink-ImperialIsle patch.esp
88  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 2]
89  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 2]
8A  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
8B  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
8C  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 2]
++  Snowdale - Fighters Guild Quests Patch.esp
8D  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 2]
8E  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
8F  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
90  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
91  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
92  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp
++  ULE WAC-DarkForest patch.esp
++  ULE LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp  [Version 2]
93  ULS OblivionUncut-EntiusGorge patch.esp
94  ULM OblivionUncut-EntiusGorge patch.esp
++  ULE LostSpires-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp  [Version 3]
95  ULE OblivionUncut-ChorrolHinterland patch.esp  [Version 2.2]
96  ULM HentaiMania2-LostCoast patch.esp  [Version 2]
++  ULM NicVBetterBeggars-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp  [Version 2]
++  ULM DepthsOfTheUnderdark-LushWoodlands patch.esp  [Version 2]
++  ULS OblivionUncut-AncientYews patch.esp
97  ULM DarkBrotherhoodChronicles-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp  [Version 2a]
++  ULE FightersGuildQuests-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 2]
98  ULE TamrielicLore-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1]
++  ULM ImpeREALForts-LostSpires-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp  [Version 2]
++  ULE TamrielicLore-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1]
99  ULM OscurosOblivionOverhaul-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp  [Version 2.1]
9A  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Book Placement v2.esp  [Version 2.0]
9B  Banes Guilds UnitedOOO.esp
++  TreasureChest - Better Dungeons.esp
9C  A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp
++  A Bloody Mess - Armor Shader Supression.esp
++  A Bloody Mess - Arena Wash Basin.esp
9D  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 6.3.2]
9E  GMArcheryRebalance.esp  [Version 1.0]
9F  GuildAdvancementBGU.esp
A0  MagicArrows.esp  [Version 2.0]
A1  OblivionGateCooldown.esp
A2  Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp  [Version 1.2]
A3  Safe Traveling NPC.esp
A4  Enhanced Vegetation [150%].esp
++  Enhanced Vegetation SI.esp
++  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
A5  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.4.6]
A6  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.3]
A7  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.1.2]
++  Jjiinx_Enhanced Disease.esp
A8  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
A9  JCN_AV Uncap.esp  [Version 1.01]
AA  Oblivion XP.esp
AB  HAZeatanimations.esp
**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp
**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp
**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 88]
++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 88]
++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 88]
++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 88]
**  MOBSification of MODS.esp
++  CM Partners.esp
AC  Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp
AD  OOOShiveringIsles.esp
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
AE  Crowded Cities Cyrodiil.esp
AF  No more empty dungeons.esp
B0  Tavern Goers 2 - Redux.esp
B1  WACIntegration.esp
B2  Diverse Effect Icons OBSE.esp
B3  Hentai DMRA Collection.esp
B4  MoreGenericDialogue.esp
B5  SICitiesExpanded.esp
B6  RadiantAI - NPCs Alive - Cyrodiil.esp
B7  Unique Artifacts for Unique People.esp  [Version 1.3]
++  TorchMoreBrighter_Bright_Wide.esp
B8  Better Deadric Shrines.esp
++  OOOExtended Traven Resist Magic Fix.esp
++  OOOExtended Caranya Fix.esp
++  UAUP - OOOExtended Patch.esp
B9  The Lost Spires - Assorted Fixes.esp
++  Quest NPCs Run.esp  [Version 1.4]
BA  OOO Services Fix.esp  [Version 1.2]
BB  ULM DaedricShrineRuins-BrenaRiverRavine patch.esp  [Version 2]
++  ULM DaedricShrineRuins-EasternPeaks patch.esp  [Version 1]
BC  Av Latta Magicka.esp  [Version 1.16]
++  Av Latta Magicka - Rebalance Complete.esp  [Version 1.16]
BD  SM Plugin Refurbish Lite.esp
BE  SM Plugin Refurbish Lite OBSE.esp
BF  LINK.esp  [Version 1.4]
C0  SMO.esp
C1  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
C2  OOOExtended - Creature Spawn Chance Fix.esp
C3  OOO - Creature Spawn Chance Fix.esp
C4  ChaseCameraMod.esp
C5  NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp
C6  DMRA Stock Robe Replacer.esp
C7  Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp  [Version]


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Whenever dealing with 'Lovers with PK', it was advised to check the load order of your mods.  This because there would be times that one mod may conflict with another. And after some time, a recommended order was devised.


Now below is a BASIS mod order, an essentially stripped down version of what the LAPF system recommends.  It clearly doesn't list all mods... not possible.  But it does list a few critical ones (UOP and some DLC), and shows categories where others would belong, such as Mascar's Oblivion Overhaul being grouped with other overhaul mods.



Unofficial Oblivion Plugins
Shivering Isles
Shivering Isle Unofficial Plugins
Better cities.esp (not it's add-ons/plugins)
DLC Orrey
DLC Vile
DLC Razor
DLC Tomes
Male Body Replacer
DLC Thieves's Den  
DLC Battlehorn
DLC Frostcrag
Knights Unofficial Plugin
tamago and lovers here *
Bashed patch


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Bethesda load design , is hella broken horrible the .esl files in skyrim is a MASSIVE improvement.... I would also suggest hashing all your file so you will know what changed. Bethesda seems too stuck in their ways to get a system like OPEN MW that now supports 3 of their games a FREE community was able to fix their whole AAA game engine , SAD.

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You can do one thing, but you probably won't like it- restore to a system backup. This should put your mostly working game back the way it was before you installed the new mods and all that other stuff. Takes about thirty mins for me to do. You should have been looking at stability fixes in the first place with ctds every two hours cause that shit don't get better with time and saves.



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