777sage Posted April 14, 2022 Author Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) Looking for feedback: Â Currently, nursing negates all draining when requirements are met. Making it so the drainer has to feed on the victim to satiate themselves. Should I change it so that there is a form of symbiosis? The straight breastfeeding animation gives the male victim a handjob, something could come from it. Thoughts? Â Edited April 14, 2022 by 777sage
Leadaire Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) INeed isn't working, after drain the need doesn't raise  And I need help what functions I need to tick on to use manual drain and manual drain with killing npc  And it's possible to make manual drain with killing without auto drain and auto drain at orgasm? Because I switch off auto drain and try drain npc by hotkey and then kill them by drain but npc don't get died.  Can you make a screenshot with marks what I need to turn on for that.  P.S. Sorry for my bad english so that's reason I ask make a screenshot Thanks all Edited April 14, 2022 by Leadaire
foreveraloneguy Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, 777sage said: Update 0.9.2 posted: Â See changelog for it. Â Also note: Description for Nursing victims (MME) is a little of. Initially I was going to have deadly(playful) drainers nurse the victim until they decided to kill. But I decided against it for consistency. Either way, if conditions are met nursing can happen even if Excluding followers/females. Â Alert me to any issues regarding UI, SLDD functionality, or any of the mod features it supports. I also want to know if I should nerf the nursing features, can be pretty powerful if you have a level 10 milk maid drainer early game.... but hey its part of the investment right? Starting a new playthrough to test this. First things I've noticed is that I can't enable a hotkey for physical drain. I get the dialog, but then the hotkey still shows "esc". And drain speed how has a max of 34. That might be intentional, but it seems like an odd number as a max. Edited April 14, 2022 by foreveraloneguy
777sage Posted April 14, 2022 Author Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Leadaire said: INeed isn't working, after drain the need doesn't raise  And I need help what functions I need to tick on to use manual drain and manual drain with killing npc  And it's possible to make manual drain with killing without auto drain and auto drain at orgasm? Because I switch off auto drain and try drain npc by hotkey and then kill them by drain but npc don't get died.  Can you make a screenshot with marks what I need to turn on for that.  P.S. Sorry for my bad english so that's reason I ask make a screenshot Thanks all  Manual drain is normally required. Manual Drain death allows the victim to die in the middle of the sex scene if the next drain kills them. It is not recommended to have manual drain death active when having sex with multiple victims unless they all basically die at once. SexLab threads tend end suddenly, or weird things happen.  In the climax stage, you should be able to leave auto drain and auto drain on orgasm off. You would just have to actually drain for anything to happen. I can send over a screenshot of what I'd normally have as a drainer later.  Regarding iNeed, which feature is not working? Are you a drainer or a victim when trying it out? If you are a drainer, are you an enhanced drainer?  If you are the victim, is the succubus draining you enhanced? Do you have Ineed enabled in Mod Utility? Edited April 14, 2022 by 777sage
777sage Posted April 14, 2022 Author Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, foreveraloneguy said: Starting a new playthrough to test this. First things I've noticed is that I can't enable a hotkey for physical drain. I get the dialog, but then the hotkey still shows "esc". And drain speed how has a max of 34. That might be intentional, but it seems like an odd number as a max.  Ah, thats a UI bug. Physical drain related options are still under static options. I must have accidentally disabled the key setting for it. Ill work on it and post a fix ASAP.  As for the drain speed limiter, since it is percentage I figured it would only take 3 drains to kill a target, where many SL animations have around 4, but standard drains dont start until the second stage. I'll increase the range to to 50 or so.  Theres still the question of nursing too, the code may do a physical drain even if draining doesnt happen. Edited April 14, 2022 by 777sage
777sage Posted April 14, 2022 Author Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, foreveraloneguy said: Starting a new playthrough to test this. First things I've noticed is that I can't enable a hotkey for physical drain. I get the dialog, but then the hotkey still shows "esc". And drain speed how has a max of 34. That might be intentional, but it seems like an odd number as a max. Â Â New version posted : 0.9.2b, can you check it out and see if its working for you now? Also extended drain speed slider to 50. Thanks for reporting the UI bug.
777sage Posted April 14, 2022 Author Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Leadaire said: INeed isn't working, after drain the need doesn't raise  And I need help what functions I need to tick on to use manual drain and manual drain with killing npc  And it's possible to make manual drain with killing without auto drain and auto drain at orgasm? Because I switch off auto drain and try drain npc by hotkey and then kill them by drain but npc don't get died.  Can you make a screenshot with marks what I need to turn on for that.  P.S. Sorry for my bad english so that's reason I ask make a screenshot Thanks all  Defect on iNeed acknowledged, working on it now.  UPDATE: So I just tested it again, but this time i drained at least 3 to 5 times before iNeed started to recoqnize what was going on. Can you try manually draining 3 to 5 times and let me know? Someone else in the past told me that iNeed features didnt work at first before trying again a few times. Edited April 14, 2022 by 777sage
777sage Posted April 14, 2022 Author Posted April 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Leadaire said: INeed isn't working, after drain the need doesn't raise  Can you make a screenshot with marks what I need to turn on for that.  P.S. Sorry for my bad english so that's reason I ask make a screenshot Thanks all  As mentioned before, try draining at least 3 to 5 times while having iNeed enabled to get it working. For some reason it just never triggers iNeed events at first. As for my settings see below screenshots. I have tailored them for iNeed too. Just play with them a bit: Spoiler
777sage Posted April 14, 2022 Author Posted April 14, 2022 Going forward iNeed options will have a disclaimer stating it may work after 3 or so drainings. After that you should not have to worry about it not working.
foreveraloneguy Posted April 15, 2022 Posted April 15, 2022 4 hours ago, 777sage said: Â Â New version posted : 0.9.2b, can you check it out and see if its working for you now? Also extended drain speed slider to 50. Thanks for reporting the UI bug. Â Both issues fixed. Good to know about the drain speed slider.
777sage Posted April 15, 2022 Author Posted April 15, 2022 Uploaded new version as hotfix: Updates iNeed menu options to make it clear it may require several drains or more to work. Fixed Psycho essential drain attempt on the player side.
777sage Posted April 15, 2022 Author Posted April 15, 2022 44 minutes ago, foreveraloneguy said: Â Both issues fixed. Good to know about the drain speed slider. Â Awesome! good to know, let me know if you find anything else. It seems I will want to start a new playthrough on my main profile because of the FEC update.
777sage Posted April 15, 2022 Author Posted April 15, 2022 Heads up, Found a defect when being drained by a NPC drainer that decides to kill. Should have a fix up tommorow. Sorry for the inconvenience, just looks like a certain condition was not met and slipped through one of the test cycles, now it seems prevent all intent to kill from happening.
Hakuna_Matata Posted April 15, 2022 Posted April 15, 2022 Manual Drain shows the drain animation but does not actually drain. Draining appears to happen automatically towards the end. Â I can understand why that would be so, but it negates the usefulness of draining magicka and stamina. I thought the whole purpose of that was so you can drain stamina and magicka during sex, because sex drains stamina and magicka, so you can last longer. Â Is that configurable and I missed the option? I would like a way to have manual drain actually drain immediately. It's fine if you delay drain death till the end but the actual absorption of attributes should happen right away.
777sage Posted April 15, 2022 Author Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) Manual drain key must be held for about 3 seconds to actually drain , I believe etheri made it that way because it is easy to hit the drain key by accident. Autodrain usually does it for you, but I admit I have been wanting to make it faster. If you find that you cannot drain manually while holding the drain key for several seconds, let me know. Edited April 15, 2022 by 777sage
DnBonic Posted April 15, 2022 Posted April 15, 2022 I couldn't seem to get the mod to work out the box, I gave someone drain powers and triggered an animation but there was no visual effects or draining. What settings to I have to enable/disable to get an npc to drain me or vice versa. (i play as female) thanks for the help
777sage Posted April 15, 2022 Author Posted April 15, 2022 43 minutes ago, DnBonic said: I couldn't seem to get the mod to work out the box, I gave someone drain powers and triggered an animation but there was no visual effects or draining. What settings to I have to enable/disable to get an npc to drain me or vice versa. (i play as female) thanks for the help  You are a female PC, you gave drain powers to someone else but nothing happened? Do you have autodrain and manual drain enabled? Im pretty sure NPC drainers rely on automatic manual draining. Auto drain is basically manual draining done for you.  Do you have draining powers yourself? Drainers will not drain other drainers.
777sage Posted April 16, 2022 Author Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) Upcoming Update tonight: Â Fixes: Corrected a problem where drainers decisions to kill were not correctly tracked and maintained. You might have noticed that psychos were not killing like they should. During further testing I determined that the variability of the drainer options allowed the possibility for certain flags to not be set for lethal &Â psycho NPC drainers, causing them to seeming spare their victims where they would always choose to kill. (Lethal will still spare if the victim is their lover.) Aside from the orgasm draining script being updated to address drain behaviors better, the "kill" part of the script now has an additional check to ensure they ALWAYS decide to kill. Adjustments: MME lactacid gain slider extended to 2 per drain, from 1. Headsup:Â FEC on nexus reportedly has a bug where the automatic option of drain health menu does not work. If you encountered this, just be aware and select the effect you want outright. Â Edited April 16, 2022 by 777sage clarification edit
777sage Posted April 16, 2022 Author Posted April 16, 2022 Hotfix update D is up, can someone check out the NPC drainer side of things just to be safe? Want to be sure it is fixed for others instead of my controlled local repo.
EmeraldSpider135 Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 Can we get Sunhelm compatibility whenever you have time to do it? Please and thank you, love the mod
DnBonic Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 8 hours ago, 777sage said:  You are a female PC, you gave drain powers to someone else but nothing happened? Do you have autodrain and manual drain enabled? Im pretty sure NPC drainers rely on automatic manual draining. Auto drain is basically manual draining done for you.  Do you have draining powers yourself? Drainers will not drain other drainers. So i just used the "give drain power 1" to an npc then used SL to enter an animation with them. Could not get any draining to occur, My player did not have the drain powers tick box enabled but it did have the power level set to 1. I had auto drain on so the NPC should have done it automatically.  I then tried to drain someone by reloading a save and giving no powers to the npc but giving myself the power, still nothing.  Is there a specific way i have to start the animations? and does someone know the exact process to give an npc drain powers and having them drain the player?
retyiuy Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 Hello Thanks for your work Where can i find animation used in gifs?
alexsl Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 Unsure why it crash to desktop instantly after I start the mod with Content Consumer's Alternate Starts SE. There is an option for Succubus quest it says (Deadly Drain) so I would assume it's this mod. So when i go to sleep in the bed i get two message then it CTD. The only soft requirement I download in the end was Ineed, but I do have all the hard requirement. Â My game did work without problem before Deadly drain so i assume those mod arent compatible anymore ?
southpawrc Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) Hi there, excellent work on the mod, I'm enjoying it! I have a small request, and I understand you may not have time for it, but is there a possibility to add detection for Soul Gem Oven so that your mod detects milk from SGO to nurse followers? Â dse-soulgem-oven-vbeta7.zip Edited April 16, 2022 by southpawrc attached wrong file
foreveraloneguy Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 Still working my way through PSQ/SDD testing, but I want to bring up a long standing issue with this mod. When using SLIF with physical drain, there's incredible lag after the animation ends. This lag usually lasts for 1-2 minutes where my FPS drops from it's normal steady 60 to as low as single digits. It does eventually recover and only happens if physical drain is enabled. I always meant to try to look into the issue, but I never got all that far in my papyrus scripting to understand why it does that.
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