Bondage Queen Slaveia Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 21 hours ago, Nymra said: hmm, everything seems to be in order. I never get CTDs from Naked Defeat, its always the usual Skyrim random Crash that can happen (in my case on LE). Do you get the CTDs 100% of the time on 100% of the situations? Because the log shows that the game went on far further than the bleedout moment (when you hit 0 HP). It's probably something else, maybe animation based. I disabled Naked Defeat in the MCM and am getting bugginess and crashes when other mods start doing custom states as well.
Guest Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Nymra said: might be a bug that I already fixed that happens on some occasions. Will test this scenario to make sure its fixed in the next update. Also in your log are several stack dumps. while there are different oppinions about them, my experience is that the game works more stable and mods more reliable when there are no stack dumps. in my exeperience they are a sign for too many mods firing at once or bad scripts in a single mod. In general I try to see which mods are involved in the stack (search "stack dump" in the log file) and try to remove or replace the ones that repeatedly show up. In this case its hard to tell if the stack dump caused the problems or not, but its not healthy either. There are also in depth guides for stack dump maintenance, but I have no link available atm, sorry. basically its the old game of trial and error Thank you for the advice on stack dumps. I am in beta phase with this mod list and will remove anything that is causing them. I need to learn more and will investigate as you suggested. Thank you.
walok Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/19/2023 at 11:00 AM, walok said: Thanks for the answer No there was no DD item equiped. SUM and dde are up to latest versions. I tryed reinstalling both just to see but id did no good. Really odd that i have no prblems with 4.8.1 Hello Thanks for the patch. I tryed out 4.92 and that problem where wiggling (space key) put me out of the furniture into the crawl animation doesnt happen anymore I tryed out the travel function and that one reacts strange for me. What happens is. 1. i hit ALT°K and get the message that i prepare for beeing teleported 2. A creature (for example naked vapirelord) appears 3. I see the massage that they need time too decide who goes first 3. i get "you are fucked round1" 4. My char and the ccreature allign for the animation (thers even the message aboiut what animantion would be played) but then the creature just disappears and my char gets into crawl 5. I see some message about them beeing finished with me 6. At that point i cant hit M (Map) or other buttons like Iinventory for about a minute and then i am back to how it was before hitting ALT + K
Nymra Posted December 27, 2023 Author Posted December 27, 2023 29 minutes ago, walok said: Hello Thanks for the patch. I tryed out 4.92 and that problem where wiggling (space key) put me out of the furniture into the crawl animation doesnt happen anymore I tryed out the travel function and that one reacts strange for me. What happens is. 1. i hit ALT°K and get the message that i prepare for beeing teleported 2. A creature (for example naked vapirelord) appears 3. I see the massage that they need time too decide who goes first 3. i get "you are fucked round1" 4. My char and the ccreature allign for the animation (thers even the message aboiut what animantion would be played) but then the creature just disappears and my char gets into crawl 5. I see some message about them beeing finished with me 6. At that point i cant hit M (Map) or other buttons like Iinventory for about a minute and then i am back to how it was before hitting ALT + K try with the patch I upload later. also in such cases I need papyrus log files or I can do nothing.
Nymra Posted December 27, 2023 Author Posted December 27, 2023 HOTFIX 4.91 - V2 INSTALLATION/UPDATE - Install Files (if new install: Full 4.80, Patch 4.81 then Patch 4.91, if on Version 4.81 or later, install 4.91) - Load your last Save - Disable Naked Defeat [ ] - Save & Reload (1st time) - Enable Naked Defeat [x] - Save & Reload (2nd time) - Play / Get Fucked Fixed: - Scenario looping (was caused by "your captors want more" - should fix some other oddities that might have occured - some display bugs in the MCM Sorry, I had to rewrite alot of lines for future update foundation work. This caused some stuff to be forgotten/overlooked If you have any problems, please make sure you followed the update procedure correctly and add a papyrus log file. Still investigating some other issues that were reported (public punishment, guards and followers). Naked Defeat 4-91 - Patch (fixed-2) - (LE+SE).7z 4
Talesien Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Nymra said: Sorry, I had to rewrite alot of lines for future update foundation work. This caused some stuff to be forgotten/overlooked If you have any problems, please make sure you followed the update procedure correctly and add a papyrus log file. Wo gehobelt wird, fallen Späne. ^^ Don't worry, we are glad you are back and working on ND, even if that means that occasionally a known ol' bug gets replaced by a shiny new one. 1
schweinehund Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) I feel like a real downer here, but the fix (at least with a 'your captors want more') still is'nt working. It's still looping. Spoiler [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT captivequest: (#msg) You are free!!! [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: OnMoan() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT: captivequest stage 1000 (END) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT capturequest: stage 1000 [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT: captivequest stage 1000 (RapeAgain) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: OnMoan() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: RemoveBrutalPlugs() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: RemoveChains() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: OnRestartCalmQuest() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 1000 (Defeat #END) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: CheckFastTravel() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: CheckFastTravel(KWDLootCooldownEffect FALSE) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: FastTravel() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: (#msg) FAST TRAVEL DISABLED [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: OnRestartCalmQuest - this happened 1 [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: OnRestartCalmQuest - this happened 2 [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10 (DEFEAT #START) [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10: DefeatTypeGeneral: AreHumans [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10: DefeatType: Humans [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10: DefeatTypeScenario: None [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: cfgqst.RapeAgain = TRUE [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: SearchRadius: 2500.000000 [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: GetMainSequence() [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: Allow_FindSpot: False Here is part of the log, but if you need it, I can provide all of it. And when I disabled sex as interuption for the bondage-scene, I could crawl away, but pressing k didn't do anything. Sprinting brought me out of crawl, and when I got defeated again pressing k to select a spot, wouldn't work either. Spoiler [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: CreaturesAvalid:False [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: CreaturesBvalid:False [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: CreaturesCvalid:False [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: Crawl() [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: FindGoodSpot() Timer:12.000000 [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: (#msg) Go find a good spot... [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: (#msg) [PRESS K (Action KEY) when you found one] [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: Immobilize(false) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:39AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:44AM] NAKED DEFEAT allegiancequest: FirstStartUp(END) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:45AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:45AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) - start scan at 553.906006 [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - GetAllActors - scanned 2 local actors [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) - end scan at 553.906006 = 0.418030 seconds [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - got 2 actors [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Kate, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Mistwatch Bandit, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Mistwatch Bandit, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Kate) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Mistwatch Bandit) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Mistwatch Bandit) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:47AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:50AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:51AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:10AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:11AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:12AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:12AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:12AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) - start scan at 585.286011 [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - GetAllActors - scanned 1 local actors [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) - end scan at 585.286011 = 0.400024 seconds [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - got 1 actors [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Kate, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:19AM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Mistwatch Bandit, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:19AM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Kate) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:19AM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Mistwatch Bandit) Edited December 27, 2023 by schweinehund
Nymra Posted December 27, 2023 Author Posted December 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, schweinehund said: I feel like a real downer here, but the release (at least with a 'your captors want more') still is'nt working. Hide contents [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT captivequest: (#msg) You are free!!! [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: OnMoan() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT: captivequest stage 1000 (END) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT capturequest: stage 1000 [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT: captivequest stage 1000 (RapeAgain) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: OnMoan() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: RemoveBrutalPlugs() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: RemoveChains() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: OnRestartCalmQuest() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 1000 (Defeat #END) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: CheckFastTravel() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: CheckFastTravel(KWDLootCooldownEffect FALSE) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: FastTravel() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: (#msg) FAST TRAVEL DISABLED [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: OnRestartCalmQuest - this happened 1 [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: OnRestartCalmQuest - this happened 2 [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10 (DEFEAT #START) [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10: DefeatTypeGeneral: AreHumans [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10: DefeatType: Humans [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10: DefeatTypeScenario: None [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: cfgqst.RapeAgain = TRUE [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: SearchRadius: 2500.000000 [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: GetMainSequence() [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: Allow_FindSpot: False Here is part of the log, but if you need it, I can provide all of it. hmm, strange. my testruns worked. can you provide a full log? want to check a detail... I ll get to it again tomorrow, sigh
Nymra Posted December 28, 2023 Author Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, schweinehund said: I feel like a real downer here, but the fix (at least with a 'your captors want more') still is'nt working. It's still looping. Reveal hidden contents [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT captivequest: (#msg) You are free!!! [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: OnMoan() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT: captivequest stage 1000 (END) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT capturequest: stage 1000 [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT: captivequest stage 1000 (RapeAgain) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: OnMoan() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: RemoveBrutalPlugs() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: RemoveChains() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: OnRestartCalmQuest() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 1000 (Defeat #END) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: CheckFastTravel() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: CheckFastTravel(KWDLootCooldownEffect FALSE) [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: FastTravel() [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: (#msg) FAST TRAVEL DISABLED [12/28/2023 - 12:01:59AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: OnRestartCalmQuest - this happened 1 [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: OnRestartCalmQuest - this happened 2 [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10 (DEFEAT #START) [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10: DefeatTypeGeneral: AreHumans [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10: DefeatType: Humans [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: stage 10: DefeatTypeScenario: None [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: cfgqst.RapeAgain = TRUE [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: SearchRadius: 2500.000000 [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: GetMainSequence() [12/28/2023 - 12:02:00AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: Allow_FindSpot: False Here is part of the log, but if you need it, I can provide all of it. And when I disabled sex as interuption for the bondage-scene, I could crawl away, but pressing k didn't do anything. Sprinting brought me out of crawl, and when I got defeated again pressing k to select a spot, wouldn't work either. Hide contents [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: CreaturesAvalid:False [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: CreaturesBvalid:False [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: CreaturesCvalid:False [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: Crawl() [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: FindGoodSpot() Timer:12.000000 [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: (#msg) Go find a good spot... [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: (#msg) [PRESS K (Action KEY) when you found one] [12/28/2023 - 12:27:34AM] NAKED DEFEAT configquest: Immobilize(false) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:39AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:44AM] NAKED DEFEAT allegiancequest: FirstStartUp(END) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:45AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:45AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) - start scan at 553.906006 [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - GetAllActors - scanned 2 local actors [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) - end scan at 553.906006 = 0.418030 seconds [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - got 2 actors [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Kate, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Mistwatch Bandit, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Mistwatch Bandit, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Kate) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Mistwatch Bandit) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:46AM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Mistwatch Bandit) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:47AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:50AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:27:51AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:10AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:11AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:12AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:12AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:12AM] NAKED DEFEAT confiquest: Keypress DefeatKey (pressed) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) - start scan at 585.286011 [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - GetAllActors - scanned 1 local actors [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) - end scan at 585.286011 = 0.400024 seconds [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - got 1 actors [12/28/2023 - 12:28:18AM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Kate, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:19AM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Mistwatch Bandit, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:19AM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Kate) [12/28/2023 - 12:28:19AM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Mistwatch Bandit) hmm. so... captors want more worked for me several times in a row, so does the K hotkey. Maybe you should do a clean save reinstall on your game to make sure nothing is broken from earlier installations. its important to not load the game while the Defeat Scenario is running when updating, this could cause harm. so dont use saves where defeat is already running. please upload full logs. those parts are useless to me, sadly . Edited December 28, 2023 by Nymra
schweinehund Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 Sorry, I hoped to make it easier. I'm starting a new game for every new fix, so that shouldn't be the problem. I am running SE version 1.6.1130. I'll reduce my modlist, maybe that will get me somewhere. log 4.91fixed2_1.log log 4.91fixed2_2.log
Nymra Posted December 28, 2023 Author Posted December 28, 2023 2 hours ago, schweinehund said: Sorry, I hoped to make it easier. I'm starting a new game for every new fix, so that shouldn't be the problem. I am running SE version 1.6.1130. I'll reduce my modlist, maybe that will get me somewhere. log 4.91fixed2_1.log 588.62 kB · 0 downloads log 4.91fixed2_2.log 191.05 kB · 0 downloads gives me a headache because I cannot reproduce. added some extra checks. hopefully it works now.... thx for testing. Naked Defeat 4-91 - Patch3 (LOOP FIX) - (LE+SE).7z
walok Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Nymra said: try with the patch I upload later. also in such cases I need papyrus log files or I can do nothing. Hello Sorry forgot to add it it was late alreadyy. Anyway i found that one of my mods casused the troubles. Its SL triggers. Once i removed it all worked fine.
a_random_user Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 So I got some weird results from my tests In Patch 2 of 4.92, I also got an unending loop, but I haven't been able to replicate it in Patch 3. In Patch 2, I got the simple slavery outcome, despite the fact that it was at 0% chance in the MCM In both Patch 2 and 3, I always got the Zaz furniture, despite that I had put DD items at 100%. I'm using the latest version of DDe I also had whipping at 100% but this didn't always work, I got 1 whipping scene, when they noticed me trying to escape, but no whipping scene at the start I tried this with a new game.
Nymra Posted December 28, 2023 Author Posted December 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, a_random_user said: So I got some weird results from my tests In Patch 2 of 4.92, I also got an unending loop, but I haven't been able to replicate it in Patch 3. should be fixed in patch 3 now for good I hope should have uploaded the version in the forum only not on the mod page until its polished. did that back in my time, but forgot. 3 minutes ago, a_random_user said: In Patch 2, I got the simple slavery outcome, despite the fact that it was at 0% chance in the MCM will double check. I think bandits might be able to ignore the settings atm for some reasons. 3 minutes ago, a_random_user said: In both Patch 2 and 3, I always got the Zaz furniture, despite that I had put DD items at 100%. I'm using the latest version of DDe I also had whipping at 100% but this didn't always work, I got 1 whipping scene, when they noticed me trying to escape, but no whipping scene at the start at the start of defeat there is never a whipping scene. only when you are bound to the furniture there always should be whipping when the setting is at 100% will check. thx
axel9fr Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 Anyone know if Naked Defeat work fine with Baka mod like : - BaboDialogue - Sexlab Horrible Harassment Expansion - Sexlab Approach Redux - Fill Her Up Baka Edition
Nymra Posted December 28, 2023 Author Posted December 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, a_random_user said: So I got some weird results from my tests In Patch 2 of 4.92, I also got an unending loop, but I haven't been able to replicate it in Patch 3. In Patch 2, I got the simple slavery outcome, despite the fact that it was at 0% chance in the MCM In both Patch 2 and 3, I always got the Zaz furniture, despite that I had put DD items at 100%. I'm using the latest version of DDe I also had whipping at 100% but this didn't always work, I got 1 whipping scene, when they noticed me trying to escape, but no whipping scene at the start I tried this with a new game. had no time for testing, but this - should fix the DDe Outcome (never furnitures when DDe 100%) - should fix slavery from bandits even when set to 0% for the whipping, that is a bit weird. please report back if you get reliably whipped at the start of DDe escape game. sometimes the Whipper is busy or vanishes, you will get a message "nobody there to whip you", which means this happened. Naked Defeat 4-91 - Patch 4 - (LE+SE).7z
Nymra Posted December 28, 2023 Author Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, axel9fr said: Anyone know if Naked Defeat work fine with Baka mod like : - BaboDialogue - Sexlab Horrible Harassment Expansion - Sexlab Approach Redux - Fill Her Up Baka Edition none of these mods respect other mods running, DHLP-suspend and none of the mods can be called to pause in any other way, so I think all of them will invade the Naked Defeat Scenario. If anybody knows a way to achieve compability, feel free to tell me. FillHErUp works ok when you disable the animations or maybe when disabling auto deflation. had no time to test it, I just wrote a patch for myself. but FHU should be compatible with AutoDeflate OFF (I remember the setting did not work reliably somehow).
axel9fr Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) So if I understand baka mods are not really other mods friendly and it better to stay in Baka univers to avoid trouble with his mods ? Mmmm... so difficult to choose... Your mod is very complete about defeat situation (maybe one of the best). But I search to combine it with an other mod to get a gameplay as female in skyrim with less... issues as possible. In the same way your mod issues with ultimate combat is ... a brake. I use Nolvus Skyrim and disable component is very difficult with an all in one installation, so... I can't remove/replace UC... Edited December 28, 2023 by axel9fr
Nymra Posted December 28, 2023 Author Posted December 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, axel9fr said: So if I understand baka mods are not really other mods friendly and it better to stay in Baka univers to avoid trouble with his mods ? Mmmm... so difficult to choose... Your mod is very complete about defeat situation (maybe one of the best). But I search to combine it with an other mod to get a gameplay as female in skyrim with less... issues as possible. In the same way your mod issues with ultimate combat is ... a brake. I use Nolvus Skyrim and disable component is very difficult with an all in one installation, so... I can't remove/replace UC... I replaced UC with a couple of other mods and dont miss anything. you can try to play them, it wont break badly, just look ugly maybe. you can disable whipping too. Maybe I can make a patch for Ultimate Combat, now that I know my way around scripts better. Might have a look. As for Baka Mods: I want Naked Defeat to be as compatible as possible so feel free to test out and report back what your problems are (if any) and I will try to make a patch or fix for it. I think Baka is just busy, he never answered my requests 1
a_random_user Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Nymra said: had no time for testing, but this - should fix the DDe Outcome (never furnitures when DDe 100%) - should fix slavery from bandits even when set to 0% for the whipping, that is a bit weird. please report back if you get reliably whipped at the start of DDe escape game. sometimes the Whipper is busy or vanishes, you will get a message "nobody there to whip you", which means this happened. So I did some quick test with Patch 4, no new game, but I disabled/enabled the mod so that the mod initialised again I got the DDe outcome now, but no items were equipped. The messages played, but nothing was equipped or added to the inventory. I tried reverting to 4.81, and I have the same problem there, scenario plays but no items are equipped. I suspect it has something to do with the version of DDe, I'm using 6.3.3 for SE now. This outcome used to work for me on 4.81, but I've updated DDe since. As for the whipping: still no whipping at the start of the escape game When I reverted to 4.81, I did get the whipping at the start, so there probably is a change in the new patches
Talesien Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Nymra said: As for Baka Mods: I want Naked Defeat to be as compatible as possible so feel free to test out and report back what your problems are (if any) and I will try to make a patch or fix for it. I think Baka is just busy, he never answered my requests He tends to be more responsive on his Patreon, so you could try that way (not sure if there is still a free 'tier' though). He also seems to have a hard time with English, but I guess few of us can correspond with him in Korean. If you know someone who does and be willing to translate your request, that might getting in contact ... easier ... well not really easier, but you get the idea. ^^
Talesien Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 5 hours ago, axel9fr said: In the same way your mod issues with ultimate combat is ... a brake. I use Nolvus Skyrim and disable component is very difficult with an all in one installation, so... I can't remove/replace UC... Honestly, UC was nice back in the day, but by now it's very outdated. I recommend using Attack – MCO|DXP, precision, oar, scar, elden rim weapon arts and some suitable attack-mco animations. Sure, it's more involved, but the results are so much better and easily tailored to your specific preferences.
Nymra Posted December 28, 2023 Author Posted December 28, 2023 4 hours ago, a_random_user said: So I did some quick test with Patch 4, no new game, but I disabled/enabled the mod so that the mod initialised again I got the DDe outcome now, but no items were equipped. The messages played, but nothing was equipped or added to the inventory. I tried reverting to 4.81, and I have the same problem there, scenario plays but no items are equipped. I suspect it has something to do with the version of DDe, I'm using 6.3.3 for SE now. This outcome used to work for me on 4.81, but I've updated DDe since. As for the whipping: still no whipping at the start of the escape game When I reverted to 4.81, I did get the whipping at the start, so there probably is a change in the new patches ah, yeah I remember now.... DDe Outfits were meant to be equipped and then the PC is released to run away with them basically. That was the original idea. But I see I think this should only be an option. Will rewrite it to allow the struggle game with DDe Outfits too.
schweinehund Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 I think I found the problem with the looping and the not reacting k-key. The patches didn't change it, but removing Sexlab P+ did. That became such a regular mod for me, I didn't even think about it being in my list.
Nymra Posted December 28, 2023 Author Posted December 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, schweinehund said: I think I found the problem with the looping and the not reacting k-key. The patches didn't change it, but removing Sexlab P+ did. That became such a regular mod for me, I didn't even think about it being in my list. hmm, maybe Sexlab P+ blocked the K key somehow. Did you try a different hotkey too? Also the looping should really also be a Naked Defeat issue, even when I could not reproduce the exact scenario. This way or that, did it go away now? Sexlab P+ is full of bugs I read at least in the Forum Thread.... I also think Sexlab 1.62 is incredibly bad at this point and no patch really changes that. But all the modders working on that or similar mods do not really change it to something better either (at least for me ? )
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