Diary Of Mine for Paradise Halls

[Furflz]

Question... how does selling slaves work?  I have a fairly well trained slave but no one wants to buy her. 

I have AYGAS and Home sweet home installed but I'm not sure which mod handles selling slaves and what the requirements are which I need to meet to be able to sell one. 

Can anyone give me some advice on this?

[acc loloa]

On 4/17/2023 at 2:03 AM, TrollAutokill said:

I could check on gag before applying expressions.

 

But, Skyrim applies expressions during dialogues so most of the problems would still be there.

Sorry for the extremely late reply, still loving the new updates.

 

Took a look through the code and wondered if it would be possible to apply dialogue expressions instead of mood expressions?

From my understanding dialogue expressions and mood expressions are very similar except dialogue expressions don't affect the mouth.

 

Could be a MCM menu toggle to use dialogue expressions instead? Not sure how difficult it would be but it would help keep immersion for other users and I who give a lot of gags.

 

Alternatively could you help compile the attached modified script I made to change the expression types? Would do it myself but I seem to keep missing dependencies stopping me from compiling it.

 

Again loving the updates and am looking forward to anything else you plan to add!

DOM_Mind.psc

[gekker]

18 hours ago, Sku11M0nkey said:

Question... how does selling slaves work?  I have a fairly well trained slave but no one wants to buy her. 

I have AYGAS and Home sweet home installed but I'm not sure which mod handles selling slaves and what the requirements are which I need to meet to be able to sell one. 

Can anyone give me some advice on this?

 

You have a few options for selling slaves.  Some of my info may be out of date but if you have AYGAS:

 

Unless you enter cheat mode, which bypasses what I am about to say and lets you set the legality of slavery and get your perks automatically, you start out training slaves and selling them to NPC's.  If you just train resignation, you'll be able to sell them to shopkeeps, farmers, or general NPC's for gold.  You just ask the NPC to make an offer and they will offer to buy the slave or decline.  If you train their sex stats (oral, anal, vaginal) up to an overall average of 50, you can sell them to the taverns as whores or to individuals as sex slaves.

 

If you look at the perks on the MCM menu, you will see what you need to do to unlock each perk.  In addition, selling slaves raises your rating.  For me it is about 2 points per slave sold, playing on normal.  Also, the more slaves you sell in an area, the more you push that area to accepting slavery and making it legal.  This opens up either Slave Auctions in that area from time to time, or slave pit fights.  The pit fights allow you to bet on matches between slaves, or enter your own fighting slaves, to win money.

 

With HSH, again unless you choose MCM options to bypass it, you complete a questline that unlocks a out of the way slave trading post where you can store or auction off slaves.  It also adds the ability to buy cages that can be placed in your homes for slaves, cages and pens that can be placed in the world for slaves, and the ability to keep slaves in a house, or pen and free up space in PAHE.  You can also have slaves you store train each other, so you no longer have to.

 

My particular playthroughs for example tend to have me try to get the "Madame Perk" asap, then open up one or two brothels with 5-10 slaves working it each. This gives passive income and lets me occasionally witness orgy scenes that look like they came straight out of Conan the Barbarian.

 

DoM adds a psychological layer to the training and slaves, so no two are exactly alike and you are rewarded for using effective means of training a slave given their demeanor and type.

 

Note for the DoM author: Again great mod, but if you take "suggestion box" suggestions is that it could be cool if the sexlab seeded stats had an effect on the DoM stats as well.  Like if a slave is prudish in Sexlab, Gay, etc... it impacted their pysch profile and potential kinks.  I know there is a lot on your roadmap, but just throwing it out there.

[TrollAutokill]

20 hours ago, Sku11M0nkey said:

Question... how does selling slaves work?  I have a fairly well trained slave but no one wants to buy her. 

I have AYGAS and Home sweet home installed but I'm not sure which mod handles selling slaves and what the requirements are which I need to meet to be able to sell one. 

Can anyone give me some advice on this?

In addition to AYGAS and HSH means of selling slaves, DoM has a ransom feature to sell back slaves to their own family members.

[Furflz]

2 hours ago, gekker said:

 

You have a few options for selling slaves.  Some of my info may be out of date but if you have AYGAS:

 

Unless you enter cheat mode, which bypasses what I am about to say and lets you set the legality of slavery and get your perks automatically, you start out training slaves and selling them to NPC's.  If you just train resignation, you'll be able to sell them to shopkeeps, farmers, or general NPC's for gold.  You just ask the NPC to make an offer and they will offer to buy the slave or decline.  If you train their sex stats (oral, anal, vaginal) up to an overall average of 50, you can sell them to the taverns as whores or to individuals as sex slaves.

 

If you look at the perks on the MCM menu, you will see what you need to do to unlock each perk.  In addition, selling slaves raises your rating.  For me it is about 2 points per slave sold, playing on normal.  Also, the more slaves you sell in an area, the more you push that area to accepting slavery and making it legal.  This opens up either Slave Auctions in that area from time to time, or slave pit fights.  The pit fights allow you to bet on matches between slaves, or enter your own fighting slaves, to win money.

 

With HSH, again unless you choose MCM options to bypass it, you complete a questline that unlocks a out of the way slave trading post where you can store or auction off slaves.  It also adds the ability to buy cages that can be placed in your homes for slaves, cages and pens that can be placed in the world for slaves, and the ability to keep slaves in a house, or pen and free up space in PAHE.  You can also have slaves you store train each other, so you no longer have to.

 

My particular playthroughs for example tend to have me try to get the "Madame Perk" asap, then open up one or two brothels with 5-10 slaves working it each. This gives passive income and lets me occasionally witness orgy scenes that look like they came straight out of Conan the Barbarian.

 

DoM adds a psychological layer to the training and slaves, so no two are exactly alike and you are rewarded for using effective means of training a slave given their demeanor and type.

 

Note for the DoM author: Again great mod, but if you take "suggestion box" suggestions is that it could be cool if the sexlab seeded stats had an effect on the DoM stats as well.  Like if a slave is prudish in Sexlab, Gay, etc... it impacted their pysch profile and potential kinks.  I know there is a lot on your roadmap, but just throwing it out there.

Thank you for replying.  Based upon what you are saying I'm thinking I may have a bug or conflict somewhere.   

Here are the Parameters:
I currently have no AYGAS stats or perks.  Everything is disabled and my Slaver stat is 0 and I have yet to sell a slave.

I have 11 of them all well trained to the point that their submission/resignation is well above 60 so they don't run away.

I have a bandit slave that I trained the heck out of.  Everything is at 80+ other than maid which is 54 and combat which is 17.  Most stats are 100.   I've tried selling her ever since her average value was 15,000 and she's currently worth $30,000.   

I'm in Windhelm and I've tried selling her to nearly everyone.  The Tavern owner, Blacksmith, every rich looking noble I saw even the Jarl himself.  Even when people are say "Who hasn't I could use a hand from time to time!" and I ask them to make an offer they all say "Nah, Not Interested"

I don't know what I'm doing wrong at this point.  I even cleared the bandit's factions with the "The old you is dead, your a slave now [clear factions]"  and that didn't seem to help at all either. 

I've sold a slave before to Nazeem during a different playthrough but for some reason this playthrough it's just not working... 

So is my game bugged or something? or I have a conflict somewhere?
 

[gekker]

15 minutes ago, Sku11M0nkey said:

Thank you for replying.  Based upon what you are saying I'm thinking I may have a bug or conflict somewhere.   

Here are the Parameters:
I currently have no AYGAS stats or perks.  Everything is disabled and my Slaver stat is 0 and I have yet to sell a slave.

I have 11 of them all well trained to the point that their submission/resignation is well above 60 so they don't run away.

I have a bandit slave that I trained the heck out of.  Everything is at 80+ other than maid which is 54 and combat which is 17.  Most stats are 100.   I've tried selling her ever since her average value was 15,000 and she's currently worth $30,000.   

I'm in Windhelm and I've tried selling her to nearly everyone.  The Tavern owner, Blacksmith, every rich looking noble I saw even the Jarl himself.  Even when people are say "Who hasn't I could use a hand from time to time!" and I ask them to make an offer they all say "Nah, Not Interested"

I don't know what I'm doing wrong at this point.  I even cleared the bandit's factions with the "The old you is dead, your a slave now [clear factions]"  and that didn't seem to help at all either. 

I've sold a slave before to Nazeem during a different playthrough but for some reason this playthrough it's just not working... 

So is my game bugged or something? or I have a conflict somewhere?
 

 

Do you have the new versions of DoM and AYGAS/HSH patched for Dom 4?  Also I believe the installation process changed as you now have to install PAHE, then DoM (no patches), save/reload, and then install HSH and AYGAS with their new DoM patches.  I think the latest versions are .63 on AYGAS and 1.33 on HSH for SE.

 

[Furflz]

2 hours ago, gekker said:

 

Do you have the new versions of DoM and AYGAS/HSH patched for Dom 4?  Also I believe the installation process changed as you now have to install PAHE, then DoM (no patches), save/reload, and then install HSH and AYGAS with their new DoM patches.  I think the latest versions are .63 on AYGAS and 1.33 on HSH for SE.

 

Admittedly I'm still using DoM 3.02 or something thereabouts, because I didn't want to upgrade and de-stabilize any of my current save games.   I haven't updated or changed any other adult mods since I first installed for the same reason.  The only things I've changed are outfits/armors, weapons, followers, texture and housing mods. 

I guess my question is can you think of any reason why NPCs wouldn't buy a well trained slave?  Like if she's worth too much are NPCs not interested because they can't afford her? or is there something I need to unlock in windhelm to get them to buy a slave? or are they not interested in certain types of slaves (like random bandit slaves, or certain races of slaves etc?)

or have you heard of anyone else having this issue and there being a hack or fix like travel to a different city, wait a couple of days and then go back? etc.?

[TrollAutokill]

45 minutes ago, Sku11M0nkey said:

Admittedly I'm still using DoM 3.02 or something thereabouts, because I didn't want to upgrade and de-stabilize any of my current save games.   I haven't updated or changed any other adult mods since I first installed for the same reason.  The only things I've changed are outfits/armors, weapons, followers, texture and housing mods. 

I guess my question is can you think of any reason why NPCs wouldn't buy a well trained slave?  Like if she's worth too much are NPCs not interested because they can't afford her? or is there something I need to unlock in windhelm to get them to buy a slave? or are they not interested in certain types of slaves (like random bandit slaves, or certain races of slaves etc?)

or have you heard of anyone else having this issue and there being a hack or fix like travel to a different city, wait a couple of days and then go back? etc.?

Patches are only for DoM 4. Do not install AYGAS or HSH patches when using DoM 3.

[gekker]

46 minutes ago, Sku11M0nkey said:

Admittedly I'm still using DoM 3.02 or something thereabouts, because I didn't want to upgrade and de-stabilize any of my current save games.   I haven't updated or changed any other adult mods since I first installed for the same reason.  The only things I've changed are outfits/armors, weapons, followers, texture and housing mods. 

I guess my question is can you think of any reason why NPCs wouldn't buy a well trained slave?  Like if she's worth too much are NPCs not interested because they can't afford her? or is there something I need to unlock in windhelm to get them to buy a slave? or are they not interested in certain types of slaves (like random bandit slaves, or certain races of slaves etc?)

or have you heard of anyone else having this issue and there being a hack or fix like travel to a different city, wait a couple of days and then go back? etc.?

 

If you haven't updated and your mods are stable and relatively unchanged, it could just be really bad RNG.  I've had NPC's turn down slaves, but never every NPC in a town.  Admittedly however I tend to start with shops and taverns, as they seem to be the easiest to sell the first few slaves to.  After that as slavery is more accepted more NPC's buy and sell, as well as put slaves to market.

[crazymango54]

1 hour ago, Sku11M0nkey said:

Admittedly I'm still using DoM 3.02 or something thereabouts, because I didn't want to upgrade and de-stabilize any of my current save games.   I haven't updated or changed any other adult mods since I first installed for the same reason.  The only things I've changed are outfits/armors, weapons, followers, texture and housing mods. 

I guess my question is can you think of any reason why NPCs wouldn't buy a well trained slave?  Like if she's worth too much are NPCs not interested because they can't afford her? or is there something I need to unlock in windhelm to get them to buy a slave? or are they not interested in certain types of slaves (like random bandit slaves, or certain races of slaves etc?)

or have you heard of anyone else having this issue and there being a hack or fix like travel to a different city, wait a couple of days and then go back? etc.?

If you skip through the selling dialogue, AYGAS shits itself and basically assigns the slave a value of zero so no one is ever interested. Try selling again but just click the dialogue options once and wait patiently for them to complete, if you are still having issues after that it is likely because the AYGAS script that assigns value to a slave at the moment of sale is having trouble running, one cause of that is skipping dialogues, but other causes could be things like script lag or having AYGAS too high up in load order.

[crazymango54]

@TrollAutokill Do you think releasing slaves could ever be expanded a little bit? Right now they just stand exactly where you release them, could be set up so they get deleted or something so it looks like they've "moved on"? I notice that as soon as I train a slave a little bit they stand there on release, but new captures get deleted, is it possible to revisit this, at least for generic NPCs?

[Good Provider]

@TrollAutokill Thank you for adding the "restore clothing on release" feature.  Its great, but I don't think that slaves sold into AYGAS are being released. I like the sex slaves sold to the tavern staying their slutty best.

 

I would appreciate if slave sold into AYGAS not have their clothes restored, or have the seperate option for it in the MCM.  Thank you. 

 

 

[TrollAutokill]

8 minutes ago, Good Provider said:

@TrollAutokill Thank you for adding the "restore clothing on release" feature.  Its great, but I don't think that slaves sold into AYGAS are being released. I like the sex slaves sold to the tavern staying their slutty best.

 

I would appreciate if slave sold into AYGAS not have their clothes restored, or have the seperate option for it in the MCM.  Thank you. 

 

 

That's what I tried to do, but somehow it didn't work. I will try again.

[Good Provider]

1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

That's what I tried to do, but somehow it didn't work. I will try again.

Thanks.  For now I can just enable/disable it in then MCM.  I sell slaves a lot more then I release or ransom.

 

I tried out the SLSO support.  The bar indicated that the slave orgasmed, but I didn't get a notification and it didn't show up in her status.  Are SLSO orgasm treated the same as DOM orgasms? 

 

Went back to the same save game I was using to test out the release to dress feature and now I can't sell anyone.  After selecting "dream of servant", the audio for "who hasn't" plays, and then it cuts straight to "hmm hmm" audio with not other options....  Nothing appears in the log.

[Good Provider]

4 hours ago, Good Provider said:

Went back to the same save game I was using to test out the release to dress feature and now I can't sell anyone.  After selecting "dream of servant", the audio for "who hasn't" plays, and then it cuts straight to "hmm hmm" audio with not other options....  Nothing appears in the log.

Not sure if this solved the problem, but I used resave to solve some other problem and it solved this problem.

 

Unrelated, but I'm having to "fix" slave visible twice as frequently as before. I have a totally new mod list, so ..... How is this for other users of the latest build? 

[Furflz]

8 hours ago, crazymango54 said:

If you skip through the selling dialogue, AYGAS shits itself and basically assigns the slave a value of zero so no one is ever interested. Try selling again but just click the dialogue options once and wait patiently for them to complete, if you are still having issues after that it is likely because the AYGAS script that assigns value to a slave at the moment of sale is having trouble running, one cause of that is skipping dialogues, but other causes could be things like script lag or having AYGAS too high up in load order.

Hmmm okay I'll give that a go and see what happens. 

[EmerlGEX]

Updating the mod mid game can cause corruption? and how much especific mods arent compatible with DOM?

[TrollAutokill]

4 hours ago, Good Provider said:

Not sure if this solved the problem, but I used resave to solve some other problem and it solved this problem.

This is due to Skyrim saving active scripts. If those scripts are updated mid game they won't work as expected. Cleaning them with ReSaver is the only way to fix this.

 

4 hours ago, Good Provider said:

 

Unrelated, but I'm having to "fix" slave visible twice as frequently as before. I have a totally new mod list, so ..... How is this for other users of the latest build? 

The latest versions of faster hdt have considerably reduced the number of disappearing slaves for me. Also I changed the 3ba configuration at install, I am not sure but maybe it was from SMP to cbpc.

Edited June 18, 2023 by TrollAutokill

[Good Provider]

Currently threesome with non-enslaved NPCs is always rape.  Would prefer the option for both consensual and rape threesomes with non-enslaved NPCs.

 

[AccountManagerService]

When I abduct someone with key and after succed animation, enemy is laying on the floor and then game crashes.

[Good Provider]

15 minutes ago, AccountManagerService said:

When I abduct someone with key and after succed animation, enemy is laying on the floor and then game crashes.

 

You are going to need to provide Papyrus log files.  Places to look (path to your exe files)/Logs/Scripts/ or (Documents)/.../Skyrim Extended Edition/Logs/Scripts/

enable logging

[TrollAutokill]

2 hours ago, Good Provider said:

Currently threesome with non-enslaved NPCs is always rape.  Would prefer the option for both consensual and rape threesomes with non-enslaved NPCs.

 

It should actually depend on the NPC personality. Choose someone who likes you and has high honesty.

[TrollAutokill]

2 hours ago, AccountManagerService said:

When I abduct someone with key and after succed animation, enemy is laying on the floor and then game crashes.

Game crashes when trying to talk to abducted NPC? Anyhow sudden crashes are most of the time related to wrongly encoded sound files.

 

Do you have the DoM voicepack installed? Where did you get it from? When?

 

Fix is too disable the voicepack.

Edited June 18, 2023 by TrollAutokill

[Good Provider]

It would be nice if  all  "Hentai *" from Hentai Creatures lived up to their name and where never too good to fuck. Its really the only reason they are summoned. Its right there in their name.  If the refusal is caused by sexlab not having an animation, a message like "It doesn't know how" would let the user know they need to get the animation. 

Edited June 18, 2023 by Good Provider

[theman123]

Hoping this mod gets updated soon. I had to remove this mod from my main playthrough because It kept crashing my game when ever I saved. Rip my 50+ slaves I had tied everywhere.