help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 I was playing Sexlabs just now, and encountered a weird issue. Everything was working fine and normal, playing a scene using the Irresistible spells. Id played a bunch everything was fine. All the sudden, on the next scne, only the original animations from Sexlab (nothing from SLAL) were showing up as available to play. Tried changing the tags, nothing, same list. I checked the registry, and all my animations are registered. If i try to load up a scene using SexLab tools, the SLAL scenes show up there just fine. However, Puppet Master, and the original Sexlab spells prove to bring up the same problem. I tried resetting and rebuilding the registry from scratch, no dice. If I go to start up a new game, and load up settings again, then everything works just fine. However, all instances of my saves from the previous playthrough seem to be affected by whatever is happening. Ive done some searching, and havent found anyone having this particular issue. Has anyone else experienced? Does anyone have an idea what could have caused that? Its not catastrophic, but itll be a definite pain in the ass if this becomes a recurring problem. Thanks guys, cheers!
anjenthedog Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 I believe that SL quasi-randomly chooses a tag to select animations from. Not sure there's much you can do without editing the tag lists. I believe that in SL, you can select which animations go with a given tag from one of the submenus
Seijin8 Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, help34 said: I was playing Sexlabs just now, and encountered a weird issue. Everything was working fine and normal, playing a scene using the Irresistible spells. Id played a bunch everything was fine. All the sudden, on the next scne, only the original animations from Sexlab (nothing from SLAL) were showing up as available to play. Tried changing the tags, nothing, same list. I checked the registry, and all my animations are registered. If i try to load up a scene using SexLab tools, the SLAL scenes show up there just fine. However, Puppet Master, and the original Sexlab spells prove to bring up the same problem. I tried resetting and rebuilding the registry from scratch, no dice. If I go to start up a new game, and load up settings again, then everything works just fine. However, all instances of my saves from the previous playthrough seem to be affected by whatever is happening. Ive done some searching, and havent found anyone having this particular issue. Has anyone else experienced? Does anyone have an idea what could have caused that? Its not catastrophic, but itll be a definite pain in the ass if this becomes a recurring problem. Thanks guys, cheers! Sexlab doesn't make anything like that happen on its own. Likely a mod attempted to tweak the list and left you with the list you saw. Lots of mods potentially do that and all the one I know of that do usually have an MCM option to disable that behavior. Typically the mods that do this nowadays do tag searches and wouldn't be leaving you with just base SL animations, but maybe the animations you have loaded don't have robust tag sets. Hard to say without knowing what you have.
Aylis Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 O.o That are a lot of animation packs. You might want to reduce the number.
help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Posted February 25, 2021 3 hours ago, anjenthedog said: I believe that SL quasi-randomly chooses a tag to select animations from. Not sure there's much you can do without editing the tag lists. I believe that in SL, you can select which animations go with a given tag from one of the submenus I tried loading different taglists, and they all brought up the same stock Sexlab list. Imma be messing with a new save today. Ill see if the error happens again, and ill try to keep better track of what was happening at the time. Thank you for the quick reply!
help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Seijin8 said: Sexlab doesn't make anything like that happen on its own. Likely a mod attempted to tweak the list and left you with the list you saw. Lots of mods potentially do that and all the one I know of that do usually have an MCM option to disable that behavior. Typically the mods that do this nowadays do tag searches and wouldn't be leaving you with just base SL animations, but maybe the animations you have loaded don't have robust tag sets. Hard to say without knowing what you have. Thanks for the quick reply, and taking the time ! Here's the animation packs I have loaded. Also, this is a reasonably fresh install, just been setting up a new PC . Bout 3 days or so. Ive attached of the animation packs Ive got loaded. Sorry for not including it earlier, seems I really did need some sleep.
help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Posted February 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Aylis said: O.o That are a lot of animation packs. You might want to reduce the number. Definitely! This a fresh install, and id just gotten everything together. The plan was to go through the animation, and figure out which ones i wanted to keep and which to take out. Then the issue came up, and I havent got that far yet. Ill try that today, trimming down that list! Thanks for your reply! Afterthought: Is there an upper limit I should be keeping in mind?
Seijin8 Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, help34 said: Afterthought: Is there an upper limit I should be keeping in mind? Two limits actually: I know for a fact all those animation packs being installed would have tripped the FNIS limit. I run about half what you have there and I'm right against the edge of that limit, so... we need to see the FNIS output to know what is happening. I suspect it isn't seeing all the animations and these are just the SLAL json files loading with no actual animations attached. Run FNIS and show us the output at the end. (Doesn't apply in this case, but the second limit is within Sexlab's animation selection which can take no more than 125 or so animations in a single scene's setup. Even so, it'll be a mix of viable animations, so this isn't the issue.)
help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Posted February 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Seijin8 said: Two limits actually: I know for a fact all those animation packs being installed would have tripped the FNIS limit. I run about half what you have there and I'm right against the edge of that limit, so... we need to see the FNIS output to know what is happening. I suspect it isn't seeing all the animations and these are just the SLAL json files loading with no actual animations attached. Run FNIS and show us the output at the end. (Doesn't apply in this case, but the second limit is within Sexlab's animation selection which can take no more than 125 or so animations in a single scene's setup. Even so, it'll be a mix of viable animations, so this isn't the issue.) Really appreciate you taking the time time to help me troubleshoot! Id buy you a beer if I could! Keeping in mind how Ive gone way overboard on the animation, I embarassingly present my FNIS output! Edit: Off the bat I can think of numerous ones I can remove, that arent likely to see use. Ill get a new save going with a pared down list. One question, should I fullout uninstall ones I'm not intending to use? In most cases I suspect itll be picking and choosing from the various lists, unless I'm just better off sticking to a few packs.
Seijin8 Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, help34 said: my FNIS output! Okay, if the game actually loads then it isn't hitting the CTD issue there (kinda shocking, honestly, but good for you). Next is to look at the last page of Sexlab's MCM and check the section "Registry Info". Looking for how many "Animations (Character)" and "Animations (Creature)" are showing up.
help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Posted February 25, 2021 On a separate note, is anyone aware of a method for saving ones SLAL playlist, so it can be quickly registered on subsequent characters?
help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Posted February 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Seijin8 said: Okay, if the game actually loads then it isn't hitting the CTD issue there (kinda shocking, honestly, but good for you). Next is to look at the last page of Sexlab's MCM and check the section "Registry Info". Looking for how many "Animations (Character)" and "Animations (Creature)" are showing up. Here we go!
help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Posted February 25, 2021 Incidentally, the following list is what actually shows up as available during play, regardless of Tag.
Seijin8 Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, help34 said: Here we go! The numbers on that list look a bit light given the mods you have installed (I'm around 750 each with half as many packs installed), but it is enough to show that you have way more than SL's default available, so not the immediate source of issues. Next would be to start a scene and check the console to see what is happening. I'm mainly looking for lines like these: Specifically want to know what it says when the new (non-SLAL) animation list starts showing up.
Seijin8 Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, help34 said: Incidentally, the following list is what actually shows up as available during play, regardless of Tag. What specifically are you using to initiate sex?
Seijin8 Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, help34 said: Incidentally, the following list is what actually shows up as available during play, regardless of Tag. Sorry for multi-posting... everything there is a foreplay animation, yes? Is that intended?
help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Posted February 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Seijin8 said: What specifically are you using to initiate sex? Ive been using Puppet Master, and the Irresistibly Attractive spells (cant remember at the moment which mod thats from). I tried Sex Lab tools again, and that also seems to be having the same issue now
Grey Cloud Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, Seijin8 said: Okay, if the game actually loads then it isn't hitting the CTD issue there (kinda shocking, honestly, but good for you). You don't know about Animation Limit Crash Fix? https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/11208-animation-limit-crash-fix/
Seijin8 Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, help34 said: Ive been using Puppet Master, and the Irresistibly Attractive spells (cant remember at the moment which mod thats from). I tried Sex Lab tools again, and that also seems to be having the same issue now The lines I need would've been before any of that, but I'm wondering: does your Sexlab have "Pre Sex Foreplay" required on the main SL MCM page?
help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Seijin8 said: The lines I need would've been before any of that, but I'm wondering: does your Sexlab have "Pre Sex Foreplay" required on the main SL MCM page? Actually yes! I did turn that on! Seemed like itd be more immersive. Lemme shut that off and get back to you.
help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Posted February 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Seijin8 said: The lines I need would've been before any of that, but I'm wondering: does your Sexlab have "Pre Sex Foreplay" required on the main SL MCM page? You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Things are back to normal now. Thank you so very much! Also: You've helped me think of something fun to say next time the wife wants more foreplay. No worries about the multiposts, I feel Ive posted too much to quickly as well. I didnt notice your first post asking about the foreplay a few min ago, yea, they all were foreplays.
help34 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Posted February 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: You don't know about Animation Limit Crash Fix? https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/11208-animation-limit-crash-fix/ Theres another, whose name escapes me at the moment, that also increases the size of the SexLab registries from 500 to 2000.
Seijin8 Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, help34 said: Thank you so very much! You're welcome. You seemed too astute and responsive for it to be anything but a "stupid" issue. ("Stupid" meaning trivial and easily overlooked. Not meant as an insult.) And speaking of "stupid" errors... 12 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: You don't know about Animation Limit Crash Fix? https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/11208-animation-limit-crash-fix/ Thanks for posting that. I did have it but never seemed to work right. I re-read the description and found it was conflicting with something else I had. Much obliged.
Seijin8 Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, help34 said: Theres another, whose name escapes me at the moment, that also increases the size of the SexLab registries from 500 to 2000. Yes, but Sexlab's list-building array is still limited to 125. It'll pick a random batch of up to 125 animations for a list, but no more than that. (And honestly, isn't that enough for one sex scene?)
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