npc hair slot

[TheDragonBorn]

Hello everyone! I was curious if anyone here knew how to change a followers hair slot?

The follower i am using which is mina harker cant equip wigs because her hair is apparently using the wrong slot.

[TheDragonBorn]

Just now, TheDragonBorn said:

Hello everyone! I was curious if anyone here knew how to change a followers hair slot?

The follower i am using which is mina harker cant equip wigs because her hair is apparently using the wrong slot.

correction...she can equip the wig it just doesn't replace her hair...it all merges together, any advice?

[myuhinny]

If her hair doesn't get replaced then that means that the wig isn't using the hair slot and is instead using a different one like amulet or tail slot for example.

 

If you want her hair to be removed when she is wearing the wig then you need to open the wig nifs if there are 2 as most skyrim nifs have a _0 and a _1 nif and what you do in one has to be done in the other one as well or nothing will change in game.

 

Open the nif in nifskope - click the wig - click the arrow next to the BSDismemberSkinInstance to get the drop down - go down to Partitions - change slot to SBP_31_HAIR and overwrite.

 

Next you need to load up the CK (creation kit) found on steam and is free. Once it's loaded up you'll have to find the .esp the wigs are from and load it. Find the wig in the armor part and change the slot to SBP_31_HAIR and remove any others that are ticked then you also need to find it's armor addon and do the same thing.  Once done overwrite the .esp and the hair should now get removed when the wig is put on.

 

I'm using nifskope 1.1.3

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[TheDragonBorn]

9 hours ago, myuhinny said:

If her hair doesn't get replaced then that means that the wig isn't using the hair slot and is instead using a different one like amulet or tail slot for example.

 

If you want her hair to be removed when she is wearing the wig then you need to open the wig nifs if there are 2 as most skyrim nifs have a _0 and a _1 nif and what you do in one has to be done in the other one as well or nothing will change in game.

 

Open the nif in nifskope - click the wig - click the arrow next to the BSDismemberSkinInstance to get the drop down - go down to Partitions - change slot to SBP_31_HAIR and overwrite.

 

Next you need to load up the CK (creation kit) found on steam and is free. Once it's loaded up you'll have to find the .esp the wigs are from and load it. Find the wig in the armor part and change the slot to SBP_31_HAIR and remove any others that are ticked then you also need to find it's armor addon and do the same thing.  Once done overwrite the .esp and the hair should now get removed when the wig is put on.

 

I'm using nifskope 1.1.3

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thanks so much for the reply! are you sure its the wig though...because it replace EVERYONELSES  hair except hers...mina is the only follower this is happening for so far

[myuhinny]

Not sure never used her you could go to her files and load her hair and see what slot the hair is using that she is using. Stuff gets removed if 2 items have the same slot so you'd just have to see what slot the hair has and what slot the wig uses if you change it to where both are using the same slot then when you put the wig on the hair will disappear.

[Tlam99]

Also possible priority of head parts.

Should be 0 on naked body/head.

 

[TheDragonBorn]

3 hours ago, myuhinny said:

Not sure never used her you could go to her files and load her hair and see what slot the hair is using that she is using. Stuff gets removed if 2 items have the same slot so you'd just have to see what slot the hair has and what slot the wig uses if you change it to where both are using the same slot then when you put the wig on the hair will disappear.

so where do i go to check what slot her hair is using and how do i change her actual hair's slot? 

[TheDragonBorn]

2 hours ago, T-lam said:

Also possible priority of head parts.

Should be 0 on naked body/head.

 

how would i go about altering the priority, im new to this aspect of modding sorry everyone

[Tlam99]

You need a tool, either CK or xedit (SSEdit) and changing slot Nifscope additionally.

Get used to it, you can't do anything wrong, as you will be asked for changes to be saved when closing the program.

Without tools, I see only the option to deinstall this mod.

 

[TheDragonBorn]

37 minutes ago, T-lam said:

You need a tool, either CK or xedit (SSEdit) and changing slot Nifscope additionally.

Get used to it, you can't do anything wrong, as you will be asked for changes to be saved when closing the program.

Without tools, I see only the option to deinstall this mod.

 

i have the tools. i just dont know what to look for or change when i load mina in ck or tesvedit

[myuhinny]

Open her rar/zip and look at the mesh files and see if there are any hair nifs if not look and see if there is a FaceGenData folder as this is where some character heads are at and some contain the hair mesh inside them. This will also help you find out where her files are at in your game folder. Mesh/actors/character/FaceGenData.

 

For the CK I don't do a lot of work with characters but you should be able to load the .esp and then try checking the tabs for characters/races and see if you see them.

[TheDragonBorn]

15 hours ago, myuhinny said:

Open her rar/zip and look at the mesh files and see if there are any hair nifs if not look and see if there is a FaceGenData folder as this is where some character heads are at and some contain the hair mesh inside them. This will also help you find out where her files are at in your game folder. Mesh/actors/character/FaceGenData.

 

For the CK I don't do a lot of work with characters but you should be able to load the .esp and then try checking the tabs for characters/races and see if you see them.

i found her facegendata mesh and opened it with nifscope i see a few lines that say "hairfemalenord04 [13]"

theres 4 of them not including the hairline. what do i do to these

[myuhinny]

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I'm pretty sure all facegenfata head meshes that have hair in them will have the SBP_131_HAIR slot.

 

So the easiest way to do it would be to load the wigs nif/nifs into nifskope and change the slot in the wig to SBP_131_HAIR and then load the .esp that has the wig in it and change the slot for it to SBP_131_HAIR. There are 2 spots in the .esp where armor pieces are found for a nif. One is in the armor and the other is in the armor addon. Once you change the slot in both spots and save overwritten it when you put the wig on the hair should get removed. 

 

Another option is you can delete out the hair from the facegenfata head mesh by right clicking on the hair mesh in nifskope and going to block - remove branch save as to overwrite the facegenfata head mesh nif. In game she'll now be bald till you give her the wig to wear.

[Andy14]

Alternatively, you could post the link to the follower and the link to the wig - then we can see what's wrong and don't have to guess.

hairfemalenord04 [13] - this is the name of the node and the index in brackets

[TheDragonBorn]

5 hours ago, Andy14 said:

Alternatively, you could post the link to the follower and the link to the wig - then we can see what's wrong and don't have to guess.

hairfemalenord04 [13] - this is the name of the node and the index in brackets

 

1057725181_yundao_hdthair-88416-5-5-1540943508.rar 613038143_haijinFollowers-MinaHarkerSI-V2.1.7z

[TheDragonBorn]

7 hours ago, myuhinny said:

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I'm pretty sure all facegenfata head meshes that have hair in them will have the SBP_131_HAIR slot.

 

So the easiest way to do it would be to load the wigs nif/nifs into nifskope and change the slot in the wig to SBP_131_HAIR and then load the .esp that has the wig in it and change the slot for it to SBP_131_HAIR. There are 2 spots in the .esp where armor pieces are found for a nif. One is in the armor and the other is in the armor addon. Once you change the slot in both spots and save overwritten it when you put the wig on the hair should get removed. 

 

Another option is you can delete out the hair from the facegenfata head mesh by right clicking on the hair mesh in nifskope and going to block - remove branch save as to overwrite the facegenfata head mesh nif. In game she'll now be bald till you give her the wig to wear.

im not seeing SBP_131_HAIR slot. i dont want to change the wigs slot because i dont want these wigs to stop working for my other NPCs i just want to change the followers hair so she will work like the rest if thats possible. i dont know if i change the actual wig, if thats gonna mess it up for all my other npcs or not. here is a screenshot of minas nifs

[myuhinny]

That's because your using nifskope 2.0 I'm using nifskope 1.1.3 and I have no idea how to find stuff using that version and that is why I like using 1.1.3 and only use 2.0 when I have to.

 

The wigs use NiSkinInstance instead of BSDismemberSkinInstance the difference is that NiSkinInstance doesn't use slots and will instead just use the slots inside the .esp that have been ticked for the wigs.

 

So your easiest way to do this is to go to her head mesh in the FaceGenData make a copy of her head and then load the original up and delete out the hair mesh by right clicking the hair and going to block - remove branch and then overwrite the nif file and go into game and give her the wig and everything should be good.

 

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[Andy14]

I looked at the ESP of the follower in the CK. First off, it's a bit of a disaster.

This character was probably copied together with TESV-Edit and not really created in the CK, as many things are not valid.

But now to the reason why the wigs do not replace the head parts (hairstyles). Wigs are normal armor forms and are not declared as head parts.

And as armor, they are valid for certain races. The follower uses its own race. A race that is not present in the Wigs ESP.

 

The fact that the wig is still displayed (normally the wig should not be displayed at all) is due to the fact that, according to ESP, the follower uses the standard head part FemaleNord04 - so completely different than in the Nif.
My advice, write to the author of the Follower Mod and report the problems or deactivate these Follower.esp - it is botch.