Fenwood Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 So, I'm yearning for a game to play. Preferably one that I own (FO 1 + 2 on sale in GoG..but I'd rather play FO3). Being a part of the PC Master race, I get the never-ending benefit of mods. So I decide, I wanna replay FO3: GOTY. Thinking that it's been a while, and there will be a whole slew of new awesome mods... hopped over to the nexus. WARNING, DIRECT TRANSCRIPT OF MY THOUGHT PROCESS. MAY BE DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW: Hmmm, cool..nice...I thought there was a...oh wait that's New Vegas. What about, where is that?...under moderation, the fuck? Of this is cool...requires...1,2,3,4,5,6.....8 different other mods....but I don't like what that mod does...what about...OH some New Vegas may work....only is it's texture/models, otherwise conversion needed...but how do I know which, guess I'd have to download. But do I want this or this....well lets check out armor mods...These are nice....but they are standalone (they look so much like the armor they copy though)...where are all the replacers....They all are the same ones from the first month, does no-one put "REPLACER" in the titles anymore? Has nobody made any more in the last 3 years? Can I easily convert it to a replacer?... Here's is another replacer pack... only works for HHH cup women though....this requires X expansion....did GOTY have that one? ummmmm....... .END TRANSMISSION. Sooo, yah, and then I don't feel like playing anymore. Now assuming I make it past this step, then I install the game. Spend half the day downloading some mods. Install them... something conflicts....troubleshoot...reinstall....notice my end product doesn't look like their...download other mods, retry..troubleshoot...and finally play the game, only to get about 1 hour in and realize I forgot X mod. And every mod like having a fresh new game... 3 days later....if I'm not completely exaperated...I am playing the game, though usually by then, I've lost all interest in it. It squeezed too much of the love out of me. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I would this time like to streamline that process. The Game: Fallout 3 GOTY (I think I have the DLCs) Necessary mods: Body, Face, Hair (PC) - Smaller boobs are better, but only if armor is still sexy. Face (NPCs) Sexy Armor replacer (Sexy...not "Screw Me" marked all over the body.) - Preferably all in one pack. Kendo 2 had some awesome stuff, but standalone. Visual enhancer (That one that de-yellows everything) FOSE, if necessary. Wanted, but unneccesary: Perk Enhancers (I'm a sniper) Pip Poy Visuals (PipGirl anyone?) Animation Improvers. Maybe, if painless installation: Sexy fun (Dialogue, maybe a FEW kinky dressed) - My experience with lovers) Shemale race (only if compatible with armor replacers) Maybe ONE or TWO standalone neat armors. Gun visual improvements. Decent Presets that don't look all splotchy. Also, since I want EASE OF SETUP... I gotta decide between FOMM or NMM (considering the recent hacking). NMM is really easy... FOMM isn't bad, but the more I can keep everything together, the better. I'd like to be up and running after 1 hour...tops (downloads excluded) For those of you that graciously made it all the way through my post, is it possible? Any mod ideas to fill in the above? What are your thoughts on the whole "setup" process?
Ark of Truth Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 Sounds like your problem. Would you like fries with your order? To be honest modding for Fallout 3 never really took off. All the good stuff is at New Vegas. No one mods for Fallout 3 anymore.
ChancellorKremlin Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 I'm having trouble understanding whether this is a whine or a request for those mods? I can't really help you there since you've chosen FO3, and my specialty is FNV, but that's just the process with most mods, I'm afraid. You're going to have to spend some time on the Nexus, looking for what you want, and downloading what it says on "requirement" and then installing it. If you're installing it first, then finding out you're missing something, you're doing it wrong. Not to mention it's a waste of your time.
Halstrom Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 Feel free to start modding yourself, we've had a lot of demands from passionate people for Ease of Setup mods but don't seem to have the skills here to do it.....................
Fenwood Posted April 14, 2013 Author Posted April 14, 2013 Sounds like your problem. Would you like fries with your order? To be honest modding for Fallout 3 never really took off. All the good stuff is at New Vegas. No one mods for Fallout 3 anymore. Yah, which kind a sucks. Oblivion still gets a decent mod out every now and then, so kinda hoped F)3 would as well. I played and beat New Vegas fairly easily. Figured I'd actually try and play the original, which had it's own positives and negatives. I'm having trouble understanding whether this is a whine or a request for those mods? I can't really help you there since you've chosen FO3, and my specialty is FNV, but that's just the process with most mods, I'm afraid. You're going to have to spend some time on the Nexus, looking for what you want, and downloading what it says on "requirement" and then installing it. If you're installing it first, then finding out you're missing something, you're doing it wrong. Not to mention it's a waste of your time. Kinda both. Really, no one else finds the idea of reinstalling a game like this with mods to be even the slightest bit daunting? As for the mods, sometimes there are ones that people might remember in the back of their minds. I was kinda hoping people would be like "Oh! I do remember X mod was like that, try searching for 'XYZ'". Or maybe "This New Vegas mod is just textures and models, all you would have to do is change the file name to.." As for missing requirement...not really what I meant.. I meant just getting into the game and realizing I forgot to add a mod that I had planned on adding beforehand. Not necessarily a requirement. I guess I was just hoping that I could skip all the trouble, find 5-6 mods that were nice, but independant of eachother... install, load, and go. No muss, no fuss. And at the end of the day, tapping a human mind leads to better results than asking a computer. Cause, either I'm not finding the right words, or what I want doesn't exist. (and tags aren't as accurate as they could be) I hope it's the the former. oh, and that wierd bit in the middle was my attempt to be silly.... Feel free to start modding yourself, we've had a lot of demands from passionate people for Ease of Setup mods but don't seem to have the skills here to do it..................... Indeed. It's why I so do love compilations. I made one before, for personal use, but when someone asked me for it, they got angry at me, cause it didn't work as smoothly with their stuff. ACTUAL Side question: say I downloaded a replacer armor pack i didn't like...then a standalone armor. Could I get away with just renaming the texture and model in the standalone, and dropping it in the replacer pack? Or would it be more involved than that?
Asariphile Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 Yah, which kind a sucks. Oblivion still gets a decent mod out every now and then, so kinda hoped F)3 would as well. I played and beat New Vegas fairly easily. Figured I'd actually try and play the original, which had it's own positives and negatives. Ever time I see this phrase I die a little inside.... It has a 3 in the title for a reason... Sorry I'm a jaded Old School Fallout fan.
Kashked Posted April 18, 2013 Posted April 18, 2013 I'm feeling your pain. A couple of weeks back I figured I'd try out modded Skyrim, I played through the main quest within a couple of weeks of it being relesed, and then for some reason my brain archived it under "Finished games", even though I never even visited the town of Falkreath, and there are ridicolous amounts of content I haven't played through. I even got all the DLC now, none of which I have experienced at all. So, long story short, I spent about 2 weeks downloading and installing mods. I uninstalled and started out from scratch 4 or 5 times. By the time I was satisfied I had lost all interest in actually playing the game.
Fenwood Posted April 20, 2013 Author Posted April 20, 2013 Ever time I see this phrase I die a little inside.... It has a 3 in the title for a reason... Sorry I'm a jaded Old School Fallout fan. My apologies. I am well aware and a big fan of 1 and 2. However, in my opinion, Fallout 3 is the original to Fallout New Vegas. F03 is just too different from the first two games to be called an honest sequel. I consider them to be more two completely different games, set in the same universe. Like KOTOR and Jedi Academy. Fallout 3 Wanderers edition.. mmmm An excellent looking mod, however it seems like one of those types that would need a special version to just about every other mod to even start the game properly without it exploding, which would be completely contradictory to my purposes. That it is mostly changes the way the game is played, and mostly what I want is cosmetic. SKINNY has an excellent armor replacer pack, it's a shame the body is so.. odd. Maybe it'd look better with a skin that wasn't so..shiny... in the screenshots. Edit: Hmm, I may have found a solution to the "Lack of mods" issue called "A tale of Two Wastlands". Wonder if I could just hop on over to the mojave, grab what I want, and hop back to DC...... Any know much about TTW?
Bashis Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 ttw combines both games, on a new game you start in vault 101 just like fallout 3, and theres a tram near dukovs place that takes you to the mojave. and modwise you can use mods from both games, new vegas mods you just install like normal, drag n drop, it takes longer to get fallout 3 mods working but theres a step by step conversion guide on the ttw website. im running it and love it, get the better of the 2 games (fallout 3) with the better of the 2 modding communities (new vegas). no downside except you need 2 versions of things like awop/nv-dcinteriors and such if you want those to apply to both wastelands, so you cant install as many plugins. another upside i found in my travels is it combines alot of leveled lists, so if your using something like apocalypse armory, or a clothing overhaul, you will see bandits, raiders, and other generic npcs in both wastelands take those changes into effect. what i suggest is to go to their website and read up on it carefully, it might be an amazing mod but its finicky as hell, and if you isntall something wrong or use a plugin that they designate as not compatible, you can run into some issues in your save games down the road.
KainsChylde Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 With the new version of TTW and the conversion script they provide for FNVEdit, there's actually a way to save some load space with duplicate mods like AWOP, Monster Mod, etc. Step 1: Follow the conversion guidelines for the FO3 version. Step 2: Combine the two versions into 1 using FNVEdit or Plugin. Step 3: ????? Step 4: PROFIT!!! Or at least a shorter load order anyway.
Bashis Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 combining will work, to some degree, like momod has optional plugins, on both the nv and fallout 3 side, so you can merge the optional plugins, but not the 2 base esms, or they will go all defunct master on you, gotta keep anything that masters another file un-merged
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