Went overboard, now Game won't load...Load Order shown

[InsolentTedium]

Just wondering if anyone might know off the top of their head as to which Mod or Mods won't let my Game load please?

 

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 ApachiiHairMales.esm

7 7 MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm

254 FE 0 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp

254 FE 1 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm

8 8 Penitus_Oculatus.esp

9 9 SexLab.esm

10 a SexLabAroused.esm

254 FE 2 Pacifist Mini-Mods Collection.esl

11 b ZaZAnimationPack.esm

12 c SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm

13 d Devious Devices - Assets.esm

14 e Devious Devices - Integration.esm

15 f Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

16 10 Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm

17 11 SkyUI_SE.esp

18 12 SMIM-SE-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp

19 13 SMIM-SE-DragonbornTernFix.esp

20 14 SMIM-SE-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp

21 15 RaceMenu.esp

22 16 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

23 17 FNIS.esp

24 18 XPMSE.esp

25 19 CBBE.esp

26 1a RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

27 1b Beards.esp

28 1c TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

29 1d OvAssassinArmor.esp

30 1e KJR_Height_Mod.esp

254 FE 3 MajesticMountains.esp

31 1f Cathedral Landscapes.esp

32 20 BlendedRoads.esp

33 21 Cathedral Weathers.esp

34 22 Dark_Forests.esp

35 23 JKs Skyrim.esp

36 24 TKDodge.esp

37 25 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

38 26 OneWithNature.esp

39 27 FewerPredators.esp

40 28 Themarshlands.esp

41 29 SexLab-Stories.esp

42 2a Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp

43 2b Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp

44 2c Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

45 2d TheChoiceIsYours.esp

46 2e Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp

47 2f sanguinesDebauchery.esp

48 30 livofl.esp

49 31 Run For Your Lives.esp

254 FE 4 BetterAnimalLoot.esp

50 32 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp

51 33 HN66_Earrings.esp

52 34 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp

254 FE 5 Less Sniperlike NPCs 70 percent.esp

53 35 Fighting Stances.esp

54 36 Hunters Not Bandits.esp

55 37 DangerousGame.esp

56 38 Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim.esp

57 39 NPCmagefix.esp

254 FE 6 Immersive Dragon Sounds.esp

254 FE 7 DragonCombatDialogue.esp

58 3a DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

59 3b DragonbornAscendant.esp

60 3c VioLens SE.esp

61 3d Smilodon - Realistic Damage.esp

62 3e 1nivWICCloaks.esp

63 3f DisarmlessDraugr.esp

64 40 LadyKdCirclets.esp

65 41 Derrax_Male_Werewolf_AnimalPenis_SpecialEdition.esp

66 42 ExperienceMultipliers.esp

67 43 Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp

68 44 Dr_Bandolier.esp

69 45 Super Simple Bathing.esp

70 46 LWPlayerHeadTracking.esp

71 47 BasicCampGear.esp

254 FE 8 WinterholdAccess.esp

72 48 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

73 49 dD-Short Script Range.esp

74 4a dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

75 4b SexLab Submit.esp

76 4c SexLabDefeat.esp

77 4d SexLab_Solutions.esp

78 4e MaximumCarnage.esp

79 4f tmtStartgameMonsters.esp

254 FE 9 Hardcore Sneaking.esp

254 FE a SuperSimpleBathingExtraCleanSTICK.esp

254 FE b SINful CBP.esp

80 50 TimingIsEverything.esp

81 51 NosPiercedEarsAll.esp

82 52 PositiveUndressedReactions.esp

83 53 EyesUpHere.esp

84 54 SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp

85 55 AlchemistHutOverhaul.esp

254 FE c mihailoldgod.esp

86 56 Immersive Patrols II.esp

254 FE d mihailsquirrel.esp

87 57 SexLab_Dialogues.esp

254 FE e mihailcyrodiiliandeer.esp

254 FE f mihailseal.esp

88 58 Devious Cidhna.esp

89 59 CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp

90 5a SimpleSlavery.esp

91 5b Bells of Skyrim.esp

92 5c SadisticSilverHand.esp

93 5d RoadInspections.esp

94 5e Bells of Skyrim - JKs Skyrim Patch.esp

95 5f WildHerdsOfSkyrim.esp

96 60 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

97 61 sami_hut.esp

98 62 UniqueBows.esp

99 63 ISD_Longclaw.esp

100 64 Evil MasterMind Armor.esp

101 65 Eli_LeatherBackpack.esp

102 66 Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp

103 67 DS Reach Refuge.esp

254 FE 10 mihailtreeofsouls.esp

104 68 titkit.esp

105 69 SmithingOils.esp

106 6a SLDrunkRedux.esp

254 FE 11 InnRoomCosts.esp

254 FE 12 JailRape.esp

107 6b Elemental Destruction Magic Redux.esp

108 6c Mind Twist - Illusion Spell Pack.esp

109 6d UIExtensions.esp

110 6e SLSFFameComments.esp

111 6f SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp

112 70 Devious Devices For Him.esp

254 FE 13 Devious Devices SE patch.esp

113 71 Devious Devices - BRRF.esp

114 72 SexistGuards.esp

115 73 KS Hairdo's.esp

116 74 Cum Alchemy.esp

117 75 Predator Vision.esp

118 76 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

119 77 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

120 78 ccas_starts.esp

121 79 ImmerSlave.esp

122 7a RealisticWaterTwo.esp

123 7b CUYC_RW2_Patch.esp

[Uncle64]

You need to tell us more, it can be anything.

What modding tool have you used?

Have you added/updated or removed mods during play?

 

Can you load old saves?

[InsolentTedium]

49 minutes ago, Uncle64 said:

You need to tell us more, it can be anything.

What modding tool have you used?

Have you added/updated or removed mods during play?

 

Can you load old saves?

Using NMM...yes, I know many people would tell me off for it, but I tried Vortex for a few weeks and honestly hated it, as for MO, I simply can't get my head around it.

 

No, I haven't changed, added, removed, etc... any Mods during play. this load out had Mod additions and Mod removals done before attempting to start a new Game, but it won't load at all, get the usual SKSE small black box flash as always and then nothing, no matter how long I wait. I added about ten Mods and removed roughly the same amount in an attempt to only have the Script Mods I want to use installed.

[InsolentTedium]

Just now, InsolentTedium said:

Using NMM...yes, I know many people would tell me off for it, but I tried Vortex for a few weeks and honestly hated it, as for MO, I simply can't get my head around it.

 

No, I haven't changed, added, removed, etc... any Mods during play. this load out had Mod additions and Mod removals done before attempting to start a new Game, but it won't load at all, get the usual SKSE small black box flash as always and then nothing, no matter how long I wait. I added about ten Mods and removed roughly the same amount in an attempt to only have the Script Mods I want to use installed.

No old Save loading as too many Mods used currently deactivated for the new Game.

[Uncle64]

What version of NMM are you using?

If you are using the old one I say as all other, REMOVE it and drive over it whit your car.

Community version works. But that do still suffers from issues that the old one have.

 

[Grey Cloud]

Game failing to load is usually missing masters or too many animations.

In NMM, any entries in the plug-in list in orange/red text are missing a master.

 

 

This will remove the animation limit:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/31146

 

[pinky6225]

7 hours ago, InsolentTedium said:

Using NMM...yes, I know many people would tell me off for it, but I tried Vortex for a few weeks and honestly hated it, as for MO, I simply can't get my head around it.

 

No, I haven't changed, added, removed, etc... any Mods during play. this load out had Mod additions and Mod removals done before attempting to start a new Game, but it won't load at all, get the usual SKSE small black box flash as always and then nothing, no matter how long I wait. I added about ten Mods and removed roughly the same amount in an attempt to only have the Script Mods I want to use installed.

 

I'd check the SKSE version you have verse what the mods you have support if you aren't even making it to the beth logo which is what this sounds like

 

You can download older versions of SKSE if required by going to the archived builds link on the silverlock page

[InsolentTedium]

6 hours ago, Uncle64 said:

What version of NMM are you using?

If you are using the old one I say as all other, REMOVE it and drive over it whit your car.

Community version works. But that do still suffers from issues that the old one have.

 

The absolute latest as far as I'm aware, the Community one... 0.72.3.0 ....Sorry my late reply, I'm in Australia, it's very early morning currently.

[SomeDragonbornGuy]

Animation limit or a esl was moved from its spot and game is calling on the old ref id that is no longer there. Main issue if you have basic tools installed.

 

This is why MO2 is best because you can make backups of current loadorder if something gets moved.....

[InsolentTedium]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

Game failing to load is usually missing masters or too many animations.

In NMM, any entries in the plug-in list in orange/red text are missing a master.

 

 

This will remove the animation limit:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/31146

 

I ran LOOT, no complaints from LOOT and was careful to check for all dependencies, etc... I just checked FNIS, it registers:  4914 animations for 16 mods successfully included (character) and 327 animations for 2 mods and 18 creatures successfully included. And no orange or red text in NMM plug-ins

 

Will check the link also, thank you

[InsolentTedium]

56 minutes ago, pinky6225 said:

 

I'd check the SKSE version you have verse what the mods you have support if you aren't even making it to the beth logo which is what this sounds like

 

You can download older versions of SKSE if required by going to the archived builds link on the silverlock page

I always thought SKSE was always backwards compatible, the SKSE I'm running is SKSE64_1_5_97 I will check SKSE info on the Mods, Thank you

[InsolentTedium]

6 minutes ago, SomeDragonbornGuy said:

Animation limit or a esl was moved from its spot and game is calling on the old ref id that is no longer there. Main issue if you have basic tools installed.

How would I check those please?

[Grey Cloud]

4 minutes ago, InsolentTedium said:

How would I check those please?

It is unlikely to be the animation limit with only 4914 animations. Unless SE is very different than LE or esl are very different than esps, adding and removing them mid-game does not cause CTDs.

[InsolentTedium]

9 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

It is unlikely to be the animation limit with only 4914 animations. Unless SE is very different than LE or esl are very different than esps, adding and removing them mid-game does not cause CTDs.

I definitely can't be an esl or esp problem then, as it's a new Game I'm trying to start.... Makes me wonder if it's that: 121 79 ImmerSlave.esp... as it did something odd when I was checking Plug-in's after running LOOT, it was placed after LAL which I wasn't too happy with, so tried to move it directly above LAL, but it wouldn't let me...Is that odd to you?

[Grey Cloud]

16 minutes ago, InsolentTedium said:

Is that odd to you?

I've never used the mod so I can't say. LOOT is usually right  - you could see what masters Immerive Slavery has and perhaps that will explain why LOOT wants to put it there.

[pinky6225]

42 minutes ago, InsolentTedium said:

I always thought SKSE was always backwards compatible, the SKSE I'm running is SKSE64_1_5_97 I will check SKSE info on the Mods, Thank you

 

Sadly not so you have to be careful updating skyrim since while their maybe a SKSE version for an updated version of skyrim all the mods you use might not have been updated to that version of SKSE and that can cause a crash, in Vortex (nexus replacement for NMM) it will tell you if their is a incompatible version but if your still using NMM i think you'd need to check the various .txt files that should be in \Documents\my games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE as that should say if something is incompatible

 

My skyrim is working okay so i don't have an example but when i first downloaded and went to the newest version of SKSE 2.019 some of the mods i had stored on a second HDD expected SKSE 2.017 which caused crash before reaching beth logo, downgrading to 2.017 removed the issue for me

[InsolentTedium]

2 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

I've never used the mod so I can't say. LOOT is usually right  - you could see what masters Immerive Slavery has and perhaps that will explain why LOOT wants to put it there.

I will check the Master again, thank you ...LOOT is an absolute must, but sometimes takes a little fiddling...two good examples, some years back I used to run Sands of Time (a tough aggro NPC Mod, I used to be good at this game lol, but then had no Computer for about five years) and I usually use Paarthurnax Plus 3 (would rather kill Delphine over Paarthurnax)... LOOT places them both wrongly, both too high in the order to effectively work, so I'm in the practice always of sometimes questioning some of LOOT's decisions

[InsolentTedium]

5 minutes ago, pinky6225 said:

 

Sadly not so you have to be careful updating skyrim since while their maybe a SKSE version for an updated version of skyrim all the mods you use might not have been updated to that version of SKSE and that can cause a crash, in Vortex (nexus replacement for NMM) it will tell you if their is a incompatible version but if your still using NMM i think you'd need to check the various .txt files that should be in \Documents\my games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE as that should say if something is incompatible

 

My skyrim is working okay so i don't have an example but when i first downloaded and went to the newest version of SKSE 2.019 some of the mods i had stored on a second HDD expected SKSE 2.017 which caused crash before reaching beth logo, downgrading to 2.017 removed the issue for me

Oh! That's really good to know, thank you Pinky.... I will take a look.

 

I did try Vortex, ran it for a few weeks and absolutely hated it with a passion O.o ...I couldn't find how it would let me hand move Mods to where I wanted them and despite following to a T instructions for installing and using the CBBE BodySlide  I just couldn't make it work and a few other arguments I had with Vortex so eventually spat the dummy at Vortex and went back to what I know.

[Blue Astra]

When my game doesn't launch/load after installing a bunch of new mods, I start disabling and enabling the new mods I installed from when my game last worked to try find which mod(s) are causing the problem.

 

Once you've found which mod is causing the problem, you can start working to fix it.

[InsolentTedium]

1 minute ago, Novatham said:

When my game doesn't launch/load after installing a bunch of new mods, I start disabling and enabling the new mods I installed from when my game last worked to try find which mod(s) are causing the problem.

 

Once you've found which mod is causing the problem, you can start working to fix it.

I know ...What I was originally hoping was there would perhaps be something glaringly wrong with my Mod List that someone in the know would spot straight away and say, "that's your problem right there!", but from what I am now understanding is there seems to be nothing so much inherently wrong with my List and huge bonus of I'm learning a lot right now, which is always awesome ...So yes, I am going to first follow all advice given and if I get no joy from that, then I will start disabling, enabling, etc... and creep through the process and hopefully be able to fix or let go if I can't.

[Blue Astra]

2 minutes ago, InsolentTedium said:

I know ...What I was originally hoping was there would perhaps be something glaringly wrong with my Mod List that someone in the know would spot straight away and say, "that's your problem right there!", but from what I am now understanding is there seems to be nothing so much inherently wrong with my List and huge bonus of I'm learning a lot right now, which is always awesome ...So yes, I am going to first follow all advice given and if I get no joy from that, then I will start disabling, enabling, etc... and creep through the process and hopefully be able to fix or let go if I can't.

Oh man I wish it was that easy!

 

For me it always ends up being a nice simple mod or something you wouldn't expect to break the game ?

[InsolentTedium]

2 minutes ago, Novatham said:

Oh man I wish it was that easy!

 

For me it always ends up being a nice simple mod or something you wouldn't expect to break the game ?

Yup, my shoulders are currently sagged in defeat, as I know I am probably going to have to go through that very slow and painful process ?...I can't complain I suppose, I've been really lucky until now, was running 200 strong Mod Game smooth as silk up until yesterday, when I finished that Game (was serious do all main quests in style Game)... Decided to go for a complete new load out and at first no issue, then added a whole lot more and now reduced to tears ?

 

I have a couple of suspects I will check first and yes, one of them looked a simple Mod lol...I certainly remember that feeling, thinking "REALLY! This Mod!"...It's been about five years since I have been able to Game until recently, am as rusty as hell.

[InsolentTedium]

Found the problem, it's SexLab Dialogues ...Now need to go find out what's next, as its a dependency Mod

[InsolentTedium]

Trying a different version of SexLab Dialogues and also removed SexLab Drunk from my Mod list, as I noticed someone mentioning there is a conflict between the Mods, Game is firing ...Going to go in game and see how its running shortly