Questions about "Hotel" option in Set Venue (KinkyWorld)

[James2112]

5 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

Quick answer... no. Anything hotel related is new to me. Usually, I buy a second house, hire whores and assign them. Or buy a bar and assign my whores. Or assign them to whatever lot.

 

In this case, I don't own the hotel, in fact, I want to buy it, but have not seen the option. Brothel owner just means madam or pimp, not necessarily a physical building. Also, you can have a whorehouse and not set it as a KW venue brothel, and it still works just fine. 

 

I turned off KW random whores, as at one point there were 50 whores running around, more were being generated, residents were being used, and as too often, it didn't matter what other settings I tried.... so OFF with their heads!

 

KW and ITF really don't play well together. Not sure about you, but I have no KW NPC's. No Tom Peeping, or any of them, which is good!

I was trying different things as far as prostitutes go. I don't like making my town sims whores... Not sure why that is lol. 

 

Usually my KW setting is to have me select a whore (up to a max limit) from any town sim who has woohood. 

At some point that popup shows and you select from the list (if anyone has woohoo'd yet.)

I don't choose any because I don't want town sims as whores which means the select whores popup appears every other sim day or so.

 

So I tried allowing another setting in the KW settings (forget the name), but that just replaced the potential whore choices from town sims to

KW provided npc's. So I disabled that again.

 

I had my sim woohoo with out of town sims, service sims, and tourists but they don't show up in the list of sims when KW prompts 

to select whores. So that won't work.

 

So recently I have been trying with nraas to assign a career (Professional Whore) to out of town sims, or tourists even. I assigned 2 so far.

Hasn't been long enough to see if they will start whoring when they next appear in town. 

Also hasn't been long enough to see if the next time KW prompts me to select whores, it registers that 2 have already been chosen.

I set the max for 5, so hoping next time it asks, it shows only 3 spots available.

I was hoping to be able to assign the out of town ones, or the career itself to a lot or KW venue as that would help me figure out if assigning

them as Professional Whores will even work.

 

I disabled peeping toms and flashers in ITF as it was buggy, constant routing issues with them.

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, James2112 said:

I don't like making my town sims whores

I've said many times that maids are the best NPC whores... next to FemmeBots. Hire a maid at your house, offer her a whoring job. Pretty much always say yes. I guess whoring is better than cleaning your sims' toilet! Maid NPC's don't go MIA as some other NPC can... and don't get pregnant!

[landess]

2 hours ago, James2112 said:

At some point that popup shows and you select from the list

 

You can leave the callgirls and whores option enabled, and then set the number to zero. No more pop-ups prompting selection. If you make a household(s) just for that 'job', then set it to one (or whatever) and choose that Sim(s) when prompted. (Within 24 hours)

 

Otherwise using auto-select and choice of inactives/NPC's is the only other option (if keeping the feature enabled).

 

 

>>>Routing issues with Peepers are caused by the mod pushing them to a lot and choosing a window which isn't reachable as many homes are on foundations. It's taking some discipline to try and ignore the notification sidebar. It nags the player constantly for attention. I turn off most all notifications because while I the player am 'god', I'm controlling a single household and they have NO reason to know everything going on ALL the time.

[James2112]

4 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

I've said many times that maids are the best NPC whores... next to FemmeBots. Hire a maid at your house, offer her a whoring job. Pretty much always say yes. I guess whoring is better than cleaning your sims' toilet! Maid NPC's don't go MIA as some other NPC can... and don't get pregnant!

I may try with the femmebots.  I can't have my sim hire anybody though because I am not a brothel owner... I think that is the only one can hire someone as a whore ?

I can talk about whoring though, as my sim is trying to become a call girl currently, to test the KW hotel related to escort function.

 

I did do the brothel thing once sometime ago. I think that is when I installed a mod that allowed guns ? And just decided after a few weeks to wipe out the staff that I had hired, Bouncers, I think a janitor, and the others, for having sex with each other all day or clients haing sex with bouncers, and the brothel struggling lol.

1 hour ago, landess said:

 

You can leave the callgirls and whores option enabled, and then set the number to zero. No more pop-ups prompting selection. If you make a household(s) just for that 'job', then set it to one (or whatever) and choose that Sim(s) when prompted. (Within 24 hours)

 

Otherwise using auto-select and choice of inactives/NPC's is the only other option (if keeping the feature enabled).

 

 

>>>Routing issues with Peepers are caused by the mod pushing them to a lot and choosing a window which isn't reachable as many homes are on foundations. It's taking some discipline to try and ignore the notification sidebar. It nags the player constantly for attention. I turn off most all notifications because while I the player am 'god', I'm controlling a single household and they have NO reason to know everything going on ALL the time.

It is funny and interesting how differently people play. Maybe why a 10 year old game is still played by so many. So many options.

I usually only control 1 sim because the second I look away the others are doing dumb stuff. Also due to having to go to map view all the time to see whats up. 

If I do have more than one, it will be a resident who moves in, that I customize and build some skills up for a time, then move them out. 

 

I guess that is why so many of my questions are about out of town sims, residents, and service role sims. How to push them to be more involved without having to

be in my control and household.

[James2112]

So, I suppose this means I have what is needed for the mod that can register a service sim for the massage table. 

I will look into it when I get a chance.

 

And yay! my prostitute sim walk from down stairs to upstairs and into a bedroom for this. Not the bedroom downstairs that they were in when making the solicitation, that would be too easy and sensible (lol) but a bedroom nonetheless.

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, James2112 said:

I may try with the femmebots

They are easy. Use phone/ computer to start brothel service. Build a FemmeBot, install sexbot trait chip (level 7 bot building skill... you can cheat). DO NOT install sentience!!!!!! Generally, bots say yes to anything, but if given sentience, become like other sims... so no sentience chip. Or debug always accept on.

 

You don't have to make any place a KW venue brothel. You can just pick any commercial lot and send her. I usually buy a bar that I made and keep in library, and maybe a few other places, and just assign the whores to those locations. I only ever played one time where MY sim was the active whore. I am the MADAM! )))))

 

And yes, bouncers and janitors do nothing but have sex with customers. Although newer builds, I think the bouncers get paid by the customers.

[James2112]

The massage table...

 

So I have a massage table from a downloaded world ( I think I gave a link earlier in this thread). 

That world came with the 3 extra's from Sunlit Tides Gold at the EA/Sims3 store. 

Though they appear to be hacked versions, the sauna, the infinite ZEN massage table and the outdoor shower. 

I didn't know what these were at the time I found them in the buy catalog. 

The Infinite ZEN Massage Table is located in the buy catalog in the sports equipment... er, from what I recall.

 

They all work fine, and I guess it is this version (the ZEN massage table) that allows the romantic massage option. 

 

I then downloaded some files that @landess mentioned, posted earlier in this thread. 

Some at ATS the other file need if you don't own the original table, at MTS. 

I am not clear on this though, as I wonder if the ZEN table I got in the world download would pass as original.

The Pro table from ATS/MTS allows a masseuse to be assigned to that specific table. (Professional Massage Table) in build mode-community objects-misc.objects.

The Pro table does not have the romantic option from what I could tell. 

The masseuse cannot be assigned to the original (or hacked) ZEN table, so no kinky massage from the pro masseuse from what I could see.

 

The good news is I was able to assign a masseuse to the pro table and everything works, even npc's are getting massages. 

The game assigned a 'out of towner' sim to the table. I chose the option given to use career clothes and it gave her the burglar outfit lol. 

So I did a quick edit in CAS, but that also changed her everyday and perhaps all the other categories.

 

Now I will have to go back and read through this thread at some point because I forget if anyone actually wanted this info here lol.

[James2112]

So, the KW callgirls and whores as 'out of towners' or 'tourists'.... 

(I only noticed the term 'out of towners' used for some sims (nraas MC-status) since messing with this stuff the last few days). 

 

I set KW callgirls & whores as the pic below.  * AllowHomeless Enabled. (default is off I think.)

 

I selected a sim walking around town and used nraas MC. nraas MC status displays them as 'out of towners', unemployed. They spawn in the world for whatever reason. 

 

Then Used nraas MC-Intermediate-career-choose job-Professional Whore on that 'out of towner' sim. 

 

I had my sim talk to her and ask her career. Professional Whore was the reply. 

 

Eventually The KW dialog box popped up asking me to select up to 6 whores. And she was in the list. 

I would also point out, the list usually has sims who have woohood. The sim I selected and assigned as a whore was in the list 

even though she had not had KW sex in the world yet so I will try it on a tourist when I get the chance.

So I chose her. Later, she appeared... At a KW assigned Brothel  wearing her enticing Burglar career outfit lol lol lol... honestly... LOL

 

Whelp, she had professional WooHoo with.... the bouncer... but at least this finally worked... I feel accomplished.

 

I would like to thank @landess and @LadySmoks for brainstorming the last few days on quite a few things ? Thank You.

 

 

I mean, the dancer is not impressed at ll with the bouncers choice of partners lol. 

There are two bedrooms on the lot, but you know. KW privacy settings are Exhibition 6.... ?? 

And these are both 0 exhibition/woohoo skill sims.

 

 

 

 

[landess]

I myself wouldn't use tourists for anything. They are clones of NPC's from vacation worlds. You can go to a vacation world and customize them there, and if the game selects them as a tourist - their clone looks exactly the same. You probably noticed you cannot take a tourist into CAS. Normally these 'NPC's' from vacation worlds would be considered inactives the way the game handles them at 'home' (besides the register workers), but you can't select them to play - which is what defines an 'Inactive'.

 

Not sure how KW would handle a tourist selected as a 'whore' and then that tourist leaves the played world. There has been much discussion on brothel owner players having issues with NPC's being used as Hired whores, and them leaving the game for whatever reason which makes them impossible to be interacted with while they continue to get pay while not being present to provide services. This 'may' have been addressed in recent builds, but once again, like tourists, I try not to use NPC's for anything that KW doesn't assign them to per the mods script system.

 

Playing it safe is one way I've had stable saves running for consecutive years. Over multiple installs on different computers and several upgrades to the KW builds.

 

Multiple installs: I copy all the files (x86/docs) for the Sims 3 to an external drive. I do a clean install on the NEW computer with all EP's so the registry is properly set, then I rename the new install folders, and copy the old working ones to the proper locations - and never miss a beat while getting better performance from a newer system. If all goes well (always has) then I delete the renamed folders since I can always reinstall everything again from disks if needed. My current Sims 3 game started 3 computers ago.

 

>>>Tourists (I don't allow) and NPC's are a necessary evil IMO. The game doesn't allow players to assign Inactives (playable households) to all the roles needed by the game - just the mailman and newpaper kid are enough to show the stubborn nature of the program. I don't even call a repairman anymore after I had one I couldn't get rid of - I would reset, he came back. I would force kill... fuck me - he came back. I use NRaas/MC repair all. I got tired of the shenanigans a long time ago.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, landess said:

he came back

Nraas MC TOTAL ANIHILATION!!!! )))))))

[landess]

On 1/14/2021 at 4:40 PM, LadySmoks said:

in Oasis Landing, added a bar, changed it to commercial lot visitors allowed

 

I was just looking at my options in edit world to select a community lot type for the Strip Club I just finished and noticed 2 choices which I never used before. I know one of them must be from ITF as it's called 'Future Bar' (original...) and the other is Fusion Bar - but that may be from something else. I haven't looked it up yet, but was wondering if you used one of these when you were able to have an NPC 'waiter' appear? If not then it's definitely tied to the world script.....

[Guest]

3 hours ago, landess said:

to have an NPC 'waiter' appear

I don't  believe I used one of those. 

[jdw6]

On 1/12/2021 at 9:09 AM, LadySmoks said:

several recent games, the limit of whores didn't work, and I had nearly NPC and half the town as whores.

409?  If so.... ahhhhhhhh, so it isn't just something I goofed & did, but another bug in KW.  I was starting to think I was going crazy, but with fighting Err12s & crashes had forgot about seeing this (until finding this month-ish-old post).

 

edit:  Do you recall if you had the "whores auto selection" enabled or not?

[jdw6]

On 1/26/2021 at 4:29 AM, landess said:

Fusion Bar

That's from Late Night.

[madone22]

If no one provided it. This is the mod that makes it so you can assign a  masseuse. I have this in my game and love it. 

Mod The Sims - Professional Massage Table You can disable strict tending so what I do is have my sim be the masseuse. Disable the strict tending which allows them to walk around the hotel and then I turn on whoring so they are making money while being the hotels masseuse. 

 

As far as I know the resort can be set up to be assigned as many of the venues since they usually require bars and beds. So Cocktail and Hotel should become available. I do know that the Hotel option should show up if it has beds I believe that was the only criteria set to make that work. Usually I just take a prebuilt house on a lot and purchase it. I can register it as a hotel.