Questions about "Hotel" option in Set Venue (KinkyWorld)

[bugmenot1990]

Hello!

 I was messing around with the kinkyworld options. Then i clicked on my lot, clicked "Set Venue" and i saw hotel as an option. I've heard of Brothels and the open highschool 

being added with KW, but never heard of this one. I tried looking around in the FAQs and the wiki archive but i could not find any references to it, and in the archive there was no such page.

 

My question is about building a hotel, since i read in the wiki that for the open highschool, you need to make certain rooms by adding specific objects (e.g. Desks to make classroom, Buffet table to make cafeteria) I was wondering what are the types of rooms and what items or NPCs you need to add to make it functional.

 

I also wonder if the venue is related to the Island Paradise resort system, though i figure it is not.

[James2112]

I have been thinking about trying to sort out the hotel mechanic in KW but have yet to do so. I did download a premade hotel that was apparently

for the hotel function but it was awful and contained too much needless CC. I would imagine you need multiple rooms with beds though, at least. If you find anything out let us know.  I am hoping that tourists who suddenly appear in town will go to the hotel if the venue is set and meets any KW requirements.

[LadySmoks]

6 hours ago, bugmenot1990 said:

building a hotel

Honestly, you are the first I've seen ask about it. Try it, and share your findings. I may try it out also. It might be a good place to send my whores... like hotels in Kiev!

[landess]

1 hour ago, LadySmoks said:

It might be a good place to send my whores

This is the only purpose I've found.

 

>>> For those looking at the KW 'venues', it's kind of simple to sort out. Use a test world - make a box/building. Click on the outside wall and select Kinky World/Venue. If it can be used for anything - that option will be selectable. Any options which are grayed out will give a tool tip when a player hovers the mouse over them. Keep adding objects till the option becomes available. The High School is sort of complicated to use this approach - so there is 'some' basic info given for the needs to be used in making one. Still, mousing over a grayed out High School option will offer some hint to what is missing, but apparently it only lists one hint at a time, so multiple attempts must be made using the hint feature. Also for KW HS, there are a few ways to set objects so the interactions will work - the mod may know you have the correct objects, but it doesn't 'test' the placement - that happens when the location is 'live' and gives notifications upon situational failures.

 

Anyways besides sending 'brothel' whores to a location which will charge the player 'rent' for using that location and this rent is based on the lot value, many people 'forget' about the whores/callgirl option which is autonomous and uses non active Sims from a list which is either automatically chosen from qualified Sims up to the amount authorized through the menu, or selected by the player. Without using the KW venue options, the mod will send them places it deems 'safe' like the junkyard (Ambitions EP) for example. Selecting dance clubs and hotels give the mod user defined options on where to send these inactive sims used as prostitutes/whores. Where/why the mod chooses the location is unknown and besides skill checks, perhaps a list of successful encounters is kept and used for a system.

 

A player choosing to begin whoring with an active Sim has the most freedom, but how the mod tracks the % of getting busted isn't clear to me either.

 

Lastly - the 'nude' venue option will undress any sim that enters that lot - and KW has it's 'own' version of a nude outfit. So for example - if you customized a nude outfit to use an accessory like fingernails, necklaces, whatever - these will not be present on a lot flagged by KW as nude. Kw nude outfit is truly bare bones/no frills. I found this out making a nude beach and couldn't understand at first why my sim was totally nude. No rings, bracelets, false eyelashes, ugh.....

 

I do believe though there is a defining line at the bottom of accessories which seems safe from everything NOT player driven. So Vampire Tattoos would be safe. I found this because some CC I tried to remove with NRaas Dresser ignored a specific item while handling the rest. It WAS located near the bottom as well. Other things I noticed afterwards were down there, like Vampire fangs, a Braces mod I use, among other things - but not many choices seem to end up down there. The Cum Masks ARE down there as well..... So for those curious why they seem persistent.

[LadySmoks]

7 hours ago, landess said:

whores/callgirl option

OFF! 2 reasons, don't need the competition, and in several recent games, the limit of whores didn't work, and I had nearly NPC and half the town as whores.

 

7 hours ago, landess said:

Vampire Tattoos would be safe

Probably, as they are list toward the bottom of CAS, and may be a garter? I never looked, as I have that off.

[Clydie]

11 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

like hotels in Kiev!

Really, this makes me smile.

Remember my many to short visits there years ago and always wondered about this absolutely nice looking girls hanging around in the lobby.

Think should have this known earlier 🙂

[landess]

Thought I'd post this shot of a building/floorplan of a lot which comes with the Brooklyn Heights world, and is named 'The Feng Shui Hotel and Dance Club'. I was able to register it as a KW Hotel without issue.

 

 

I haven't messed with resorts enough to check if they also could be flagged as KW Hotels - but with the Massage Table CC, it seems something I would try to include in a hotel if creating my own - as long as one has the massage table animations for KW. I do, but can't remember which animation pack has them off the top of my head.

[LadySmoks]

3 hours ago, Clydie said:

nice looking girls hanging around in the lobby.

Yes, a bit of a problem in some city hotels and some nightclubs.

2 hours ago, landess said:

register it as a KW Hotel without issue

I have not had time to try a hotel as yet, but I think it only requires 1 or 2 beds.

2 hours ago, landess said:

Massage Table

I thought the table is an NPC registering item, but none appear, and the option is not there in Nraas Register... Or, I have the wrong table for that, as I do recall having the option in a previous game I was playing. 

[landess]

51 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

I thought the table is an NPC registering item, but none appear, and the option is not there in Nraas Register... Or, I have the wrong table for that, as I do recall having the option in a previous game I was playing.

 I had downloaded a 'custom' massage table and the animations for it just to have one for KW. I used it for a few years, but it lacked the 'objects' equipped by Sims when in use - like the pizza oven having a sim toss an invisible pizza into the air.

 

Then I found some downloads which not only helped - but also gave me the real deal and can be found here:

 

https://freesims3downloads.tumblr.com/

 

https://downloadsims.wordpress.com/how-to-install-ea-store-files/

 

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=21330.0

 

The original massage table is part of the Sunlit Tides download.

https://store.thesims3.com/productDetail.html?productId=OFB-SIM3:55539

 

 

As far as having an NPC/Service Sim giving massages - I'm not aware of that feature in the Sims 3. It was part of the 'Bon Voyage' EP for the Sims 2 though.

[LadySmoks]

2 hours ago, landess said:

NPC/Service Sim giving massages

I could be mistaken, then again, I kind of recall having a different massage table... BUT, I don't know if I had KW back then either. For some reason, I am thinking the table was from ATS (Around The Sims)??? 

 

As always, I am juggling 20 different projects, and not having time to check the tables. I just remade LOD's 2 and 3 for the sexy robot, because the ones I had don't work with the new multiplier UV... WHICH, seems to be the answer to getting rid of the side seam issue. )))

 

Also, testing 5 or 6 other bots, a male sim top with bot arm attached (totally my new mesh, except the EA hand), a couple of dresses, ankle boots...

 

Breathe.... But, Sexy Robot should be ready by the weekend. ))))

[Clydie]

13 hours ago, landess said:

the massage table animations for KW. I do, but can't remember which animation pack has them off the top of my head.

L666 and WTW

[LadySmoks]

So...... so far, I have just taken an unoccupied house in Oasis Landing, added a bar, changed it to commercial lot visitors allowed and set it as hotel with KW. A bartender showed to tend the bar and a waiter... not sure what he does, aside from stand around as I didn't order food.

 

Placed a house on an open lot in Moonlight Falls, added a bar, but this time, bartender but no waiter? Of course, still experimenting, but I really think the only thing needed is a bed or 2.

[landess]

1 hour ago, LadySmoks said:

I have just taken an unoccupied house in Oasis Landing, added a bar, changed it to commercial lot visitors allowed and set it as hotel with KW. A bartender showed to tend the bar and a waiter... not sure what he does

 

https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Waiter

[James2112]

2 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

So...... so far, I have just taken an unoccupied house in Oasis Landing, added a bar, changed it to commercial lot visitors allowed and set it as hotel with KW. A bartender showed to tend the bar and a waiter... not sure what he does, aside from stand around as I didn't order food.

 

Placed a house on an open lot in Moonlight Falls, added a bar, but this time, bartender but no waiter? Of course, still experimenting, but I really think the only thing needed is a bed or 2.

I tried setting different lot tags for the hotel idea. Visitors allowed, hangout  etc... but nothing treats it as a hotel as in nobody goes and sleeps or spends the night. 

So I added one of the cabins from Island paradise, the item has 2 cabins side by side. Tower is in the name though there are other towers. 

Also added the bell hop check in desk to the front lobby. 

Bathrooms, massage table and sauna room, a pool, one of the late night bars etc...

Then set the lot tag to resort. Then set the venue as a KW Hotel. 

Did not figure out how to set one of the bedrooms I added as lockable or vip which may only be possible if one owns the resort. 

I have only just skimmed through some info on resorts so... Not sure about that yet.

 

The mixologist shows up fine but so far no auto assignment happens for the bell hop. 

You can assign resort workers as well which might be necessary not sure yet. 

I put Bonehilda in there instead.

 

I can select the map tag from map view and check in... 

You can do that by just clicking on one of the cabins or the bell hop desk too I think. 

The last thing I want to do though is have to purchase the property and run a resort for 

anyone to show up. I have a feeling the lot is just going to sit there unless I send my sim(s).

I am also thinking the hotel idea is more for if you have a sim escort but I'd rather a npc escort uses it, or the 'working sims'.

I'll keep messing around until a tourist or npc actually checks in, or until escort takes a date there.

Or until I run out of faith that any of this will work in the slightest lol. 

[James2112]

So in Build Mode, Ctrl-Shift Click on the doors allow you to set VIP room. 

It does other things as well such as hire a worker for the bell hop desk, upgrade the quality of the cabins. and other things resort related. 

I am doing this in edit town mode and do not own the lot. I have never run a resort but the options I am getting are likely the same as if 

you were running the lot yourself. 

 

Not sure if it was necessary to add a buffet table (from Island Paradise) but I did.

A bell hop showed up. So did the mixologist although they are listed as resort worker. 

 

And I was happily surprised that a bunch of npc's showed up, including tourists. 

I hope they actually check-in. 

Lot tag is resort with required items (did not assign resort workers as cleaning staff though). 

KW Venue is Hotel. - I usually have a Hotel assigned but nothing ever happens with it that I have seen. 

Maybe all this will do is let your own escort take a date here ? Which happens to be a resort that otherwise 

wouldn't allow it ?

Spoiler

 

[LadySmoks]

@landess and @James2112, I learned a bit. So, the waiter appeared because of the food synthesizer in Oasis Landing, which there isn't one in Moonlight Falls. I don't have the resort stuff, so I won't be doing much with that. Oh well! 

 

I did see an NPC tourist at the hotel in Moonlight Falls, but didn't check back. I didn't have any of my sims there, so at least that one did go to the hotel autonomously. 

 

Also, I am now 99% sure that the old massage table I had was from Around The Sims. I actually think the one in my game currently is a hacked store item that came with Bastport 2, along with stuff like rock climbing wall, casino tables and the ballet barre... among other things.

[landess]

24 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

I don't have the resort stuff

 

32 minutes ago, James2112 said:

I have never run a resort

 

I was enjoying it using Island Paradise (Isla Paradiso) until the routing problems inherent with the EA default world caused so much lag, I just quit using it.

 

@James2112You could always set up another household to run it - play that household long enough to get it up and running as it should be, then just select another family you want to play and let it run.

 

@LadySmoksNow I'm tempted to take over a resort lot on one of the worlds which added one, like Los Aniegos for example, and see what happens if I make it a brothel as well. Plus I can add a 'Casino' room.

 

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The last time I tried to mess with resorts outside of Island Paradise was when I added a Lifeguard chair to the pool, and was using a Mod which adds lifeguards to pools. My problem was My lifeguard couldn't 'make it' to the pool because she wasn't checked into the resort to use the amenities. They will all be 'flagged' for no use except by customers. Everything you 'click on' will be grayed out!

 

The 'towers' are rabbithole style rooms, while the 'cabins' are private rooms you can interact with/in. A buffet table is needed to feed the guests (I was using 3). Resort workers will clean, serve meals (set-up/change the buffet) and do anything needed, while the Owner sets the job assignments from the available workforce hired. Looking at the Brothel Mgmt. system, I sometimes think OnikiKay used the Resort System as a sort of template. I always feel sorry for the Sim working the front desk though.... Even a PlumBot needs power from time to time.

 

 

 

A 'big' problem when having all EP's installed is sometimes we players give the Sims 'too much' to do, and the world loses 'focus'. The game still inherently pushes only 8 sims to a lot...  I get more action from late-night style bars while using MSC MOD.

[James2112]

1 hour ago, LadySmoks said:

@landess and @James2112, I learned a bit. So, the waiter appeared because of the food synthesizer in Oasis Landing, which there isn't one in Moonlight Falls. I don't have the resort stuff, so I won't be doing much with that. Oh well! 

 

I did see an NPC tourist at the hotel in Moonlight Falls, but didn't check back. I didn't have any of my sims there, so at least that one did go to the hotel autonomously. 

 

Also, I am now 99% sure that the old massage table I had was from Around The Sims. I actually think the one in my game currently is a hacked store item that came with Bastport 2, along with stuff like rock climbing wall, casino tables and the ballet barre... among other things.

I suppose we can compare what we notice with one of us using a resort tag lot and the other not while both being KW Hotel lots. 

 

I have a massage table, sauna and a outdoor shower that came with a download, The Shimmering V Deluxe. I think I got here on LL.

A sims3pack. 

*EDIT* I unpacked it and kept the package files I wanted. I did not install or use the lot as a whole. *EDIT*

 

The Infinite ZEN massage table but looking at it in S3PE, I would guess it is likely not the original store item. Probably the same one

you have. I don't own the store item. 468 points.... I have 3000 sim points lol. Never spent them on anything.

 

The image at the store gives the impression of a role sim doing the massaging though, Don't know if you can assign anyone though. 

https://store.thesims3.com/storeSearch.html?sKey=massage&filterByCategory=all 

 

I am going to look for info on the other older one you mentioned.

*EDIT* Ok. Found at ATS and downloaded including the required file at MTS. *EDIT*

I'll try them out.

[landess]

18 hours ago, James2112 said:

I am going to look for info on the other older one you mentioned.

*EDIT* Ok. Found at ATS and downloaded including the required file at MTS. *EDIT*

I'll try them out.

 

If the massage options, like acupuncture massage, hot stone massage, etc. don't have any 'objects' being used - you'll need to 'decrapify' the mod or get the (original) like I eventually did and unlock it. I posted a few links above enabling players to do this - especially if they don't want to engage with EA's store.

[LadySmoks]

Bit of an update. My sims are currently home in Moonlight Falls. Placed a lot in edit town. Placed a 4 bedroom house on the lot, changed lot type to community, visitors allowed. KW debug, set venue as hotel. Only things added other than aesthetics are a LN bar and CC buffet table. The house had a foosball table and radios and a few other things. A bartender was assigned by the game.

 

I have had visitors... both residents, and tourists. Autonomous NPC use of the refrigerator, ordering drinks and playing foosball.

 

I had to use a role marker and assign a maid NPC, hoping she'll clean up. 

 

Started a brothel, hired a whore and assigned her to the hotel. She has autonomously solicited at least one maybe 2 customers on her first few hours. ))) Good girl! But, she didn't use a bed.

 

My sims went to the hotel, had drinks, chatted with other sims and they were able to woohoo on a bed.

 

So, not sure about why they weren't able to use a bed while in Oasis Landing? I have read changelogs concerning an issue with brothel beds not routing as they are being held in queue as occupied, even though they are not. May have been the issue? Of course, I'll try some more things, but this is what it seems to be so far... as landess said, a safe place for the whores to work.

 

 

[James2112]

@LadySmoksThanks for that info. I never had any luck getting tourists to arrive under those conditions. I'll try again.

 

One question...

 

Do you know if there is a way to assign npc whores to a hotel venue or brothel venue without it being a actual user made KW brothel (by becoming a brothel owner) and without my sim hiring them ? I have looked through KW settings/debug as well as nraas mods but never found anything. 

 

Also, Oasis Landing was buggy for me but also different from other worlds in regards to KW.

My sim, nor the npc sims could WooHoo in the dream pod beds, but replacing them with normal beds worked fine. 

However, I had to have autoaccept always on when in the community living building. Otherwise they refused my sim, and 

each other no matter what.

It may just have been the community center or whatever it is called, where your sim lives, that prevents the WooHoo though, and 

not Oasis Landing itself and may not have anything to do with what you experienced.

[James2112]

On 1/15/2021 at 5:26 PM, landess said:

 

If the massage options, like acupuncture massage, hot stone massage, etc. don't have any 'objects' being used - you'll need to 'decrapify' the mod or get the (original) like I eventually did and unlock it. I posted a few links above enabling players to do this - especially if they don't want to engage with EA's store.

@landess I will try out one of those massage options and see. Thanks.

[LadySmoks]

7 hours ago, James2112 said:

Do you know

Quick answer... no. Anything hotel related is new to me. Usually, I buy a second house, hire whores and assign them. Or buy a bar and assign my whores. Or assign them to whatever lot.

 

In this case, I don't own the hotel, in fact, I want to buy it, but have not seen the option. Brothel owner just means madam or pimp, not necessarily a physical building. Also, you can have a whorehouse and not set it as a KW venue brothel, and it still works just fine. 

 

I turned off KW random whores, as at one point there were 50 whores running around, more were being generated, residents were being used, and as too often, it didn't matter what other settings I tried.... so OFF with their heads!

 

KW and ITF really don't play well together. Not sure about you, but I have no KW NPC's. No Tom Peeping, or any of them, which is good!

[landess]

11 hours ago, James2112 said:

is a way to assign npc whores to a hotel venue or brothel venue

 

It seems completely random to where they are 'sent' yet there is something at work. As mentioned, without setting any venues, they tend to congregate at certain lots. After setting venues - depending on the type and some 'unknown' feature of the Mod, I've noticed them using these as well/instead. No more 'Junkyard Jane's'.

 

After discussing much of this I just happened to notice one of the prostitutes wasn't using a hotel venue, and was 'lectured' by police. Curious myself if arrests are actually made anymore? The police show - bitch a little, disabling the 'whoring event' and leave. After this happened to one of my active Sims - I just clicked on the Sim and started whoring 'again'. The police never returned so not sure if the 1st time is just a warning and follow up police arrivals end with arrests.

 

[James2112]

Lol. Nice police officer. 

I would confirm what you @landess found regarding police and whores. 

I made my sim start whoring to become a call girl, to test out the hotel with escort service. A ways to go... 

 

But while whoring at that resort I made, which is also a KW Hotel, my sim was lectured as you describe above. 

For whatever reason the officer changed out of her police uniform when entering the lot, but lectured me anyhow. 

 

The other thing is that this a KW Hotel, so not safe from police ?