xyzxyz Posted November 26, 2020 Posted November 26, 2020 Hi, I had to set my game up completly new again with a new char and suddenly I get CTDs after a few seconds when I'm walking through open areas. I didn't have that problem befor. I even used a 2k texture mod without problems.the texture mod isn't pasrt of the problem, it crashes without it too. This is my load order, FNIS message (maybe it helps) and the latest crash report. EN Boost is working, my FPS is always 60 and script latency is around 60 too. There are no FPS changes befor a sudden CTD. There are no problems shown in Vortex mm. The number of animations is not the problem. Even with half the anims it crashes at the same spots. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 7 7 hdtHighHeel.esm 8 8 paradise_halls.esm 9 9 AsharaMerchantNPC.esm 10 a AOM.esm 11 b SexLab.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Assets.esm 13 d SexLabAroused.esm 14 e JerralMountainsCitadel.esm 15 f JerallMountainsCitadelPart1.esm 16 10 BSAssets.esm 17 11 BSHeartland.esm 18 12 SkyMoMod.esm 19 13 BBLuxurySuite.esm 20 14 BS_DLC_patch.esp 21 15 Inn Girls Resources.esm 22 16 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 23 17 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 24 18 Gray Fox Cowl.esm 25 19 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 26 1a UndergroundBathhouse.esm 27 1b daymoyl.esm 28 1c ApachiiHairFemales.esm 29 1d CreatureFramework.esm 30 1e ApachiiHair.esm 31 1f Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 32 20 SexLabDefeat.esp 33 21 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 34 22 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 35 23 FNIS.esp 36 24 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 37 25 SexLabDirtyTalk.esp 38 26 SlaveTats.esp 39 27 SLAnimLoader.esp 40 28 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 41 29 ub_cell_darkarea.esp 42 2a ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp 43 2b XPMSE.esp 44 2c RaceMenuPlugin.esp 45 2d Gatti12Jewelry.esp 46 2e SLNaughtyCourier.esp 47 2f SimpleOutfitManager.esp 48 30 RaceMenu.esp 49 31 Crossbows_Basic_Collection_DE_LL.esp 50 32 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 51 33 lordship.esp 52 34 The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp 53 35 paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 54 36 Immersive Jewelry.esp 55 37 MoreBanditCamps(Original-Edition).esp 56 38 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 57 39 SexLab_Solutions.esp 58 3a ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp 59 3b The Great City of Solitude.esp 60 3c zzMaidOutfits.esp 61 3d Immersive Weapons.esp 62 3e SkallagrimsArmory.esp 63 3f DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 64 40 Dragonslayerarrows - temper.esp 65 41 UIExtensions.esp 66 42 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 67 43 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 68 44 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 69 45 GagSFX.esp 70 46 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 71 47 Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp 72 48 DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp 73 49 Elephant'sScriptLatencyTester.esp 74 4a LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp 75 4b SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 76 4c AmorAdvExtended.esp 77 4d LC_BecomeLordOfUtgard.esp 78 4e MoreNastyCritters.esp 79 4f SexLab Confabulation.esp 80 50 Dragon Born Castle.esp 81 51 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 82 52 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 83 53 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp 84 54 sutvaka2.esp 85 55 Forgotten Dungeons.esp 86 56 Deithwen.esp 87 57 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 88 58 SexyBanditCaptives.esp 89 59 YurianaWench.esp 90 5a SMIM-Merged-All.esp 91 5b zMirai.esp 92 5c Run For Your Lives.esp 93 5d AOM.esp 94 5e PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp 95 5f Cloaks.esp 96 60 SolitudeTempleFrescoes.esp 97 61 LC_immersiveLoot.esp 98 62 Immersive Wenches.esp 99 63 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 100 64 paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 101 65 AsharaRomanticOutfit.esp 102 66 FyrManor_BASE.esp 103 67 buildablehouse.esp 104 68 PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp 105 69 MoonstoneCastle.esp 106 6a vikinghouse.esp 107 6b GR123 Knights Templar.esp 108 6c mihaillegion.esp 109 6d markartharena.esp 110 6e SofiaFollower.esp 111 6f ZIA_Ancient Pack.esp 112 70 morehunting.esp 113 71 ZIA_Daedric Pack.esp 114 72 mihailesobonecolossus.esp 115 73 BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp 116 74 Roman armor and weapons replacer.esp 117 75 LADX.esp 118 76 mihaildracolizards.esp 119 77 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 120 78 quest_pitfighter.esp 121 79 AyleidSanctuary.esp 122 7a Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp 123 7b Bijin Warmaidens.esp 124 7c SkyUI.esp 125 7d BBLSVisitors.esp 126 7e theWatchTowers.esp 127 7f diversified conjuration.esp 128 80 artillery_dfa.esp 129 81 falkreath lookout.esp 130 82 mihailczart.esp 131 83 OvIbrewing.esp 132 84 old-draugr-new-tricks.esp 133 85 FyrManor_DAWNGUARD.esp 134 86 mihailvampirebeasts.esp 135 87 draugraxe.esp 136 88 SpousesEnhanced.esp 137 89 mihailrottenmaidens.esp 138 8a Silver Arrows and Bolts Mod by Meneldur.esp 139 8b mihailhealingorb.esp 140 8c mihailmmasithis.esp 141 8d MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 142 8e Wildhunt_Manor.esp 143 8f FyrManor_HEARTHFIRE.esp 144 90 SlaversHideout.esp 145 91 mihailcockatrice.esp 146 92 moresmeltables.esp 147 93 LoversComfort.esp 148 94 BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp 149 95 BBLSspouse.esp 150 96 BBLSmusic.esp 151 97 NorseMaille.esp 152 98 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 153 99 mihailpoisondrake.esp 154 9a mihailoldgod.esp 155 9b Roman armor and weapons.esp 156 9c aSexyMod.esp 157 9d AnukethFollowers4.esp 158 9e mihaildruidbackpack.esp 159 9f sandboxcylinderheight.esp 160 a0 Viconia.esp 161 a1 Sybille Awakened.esp 162 a2 Radzig - Johnskyrim.esp 163 a3 Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp 164 a4 Crimson Blood Armor.esp 165 a5 Greek_Armor.esp 166 a6 NewArmoury.esp 167 a7 AnimatedHeavyArmoury.esp 168 a8 AsharaImperialOutfit.esp 169 a9 SexyBanditCaptives_ApachiiHair.esp 170 aa Somewhat historically accurate swords.esp 171 ab EstrusChaurus.esp 172 ac LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 173 ad AddItemMenuLE.esp 174 ae JolgeirrBarrow.esp 175 af ZTH.esp 176 b0 TW3Weaponry.esp 177 b1 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 178 b2 Bijin NPCs.esp 179 b3 SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 180 b4 Bijin Wives.esp 181 b5 GGFriendlyWhore.esp 182 b6 Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp 183 b7 SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp 184 b8 TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp 185 b9 zaz-craft.esp 186 ba SOSRaceMenu.esp 187 bb BSHeartland - Meshes.esp 188 bc ub_apachii_hair.esp 189 bd ub_tapestry.esp 190 be ub_invite_any_npc.esp 191 bf BSHeartland - Textures.esp 192 c0 romanweapons.esp 193 c1 FNISspells.esp 194 c2 theeyesofbeauty.esp 195 c3 ts_erocktheme.esp 196 c4 viking warsword.esp 197 c5 ragnarsword.esp 198 c6 dr_bandolier.esp 199 c7 ensiferumbattlemusicbattlesong.esp 200 c8 paula_follower.esp 201 c9 more dragons.esp 202 ca SLPleasure.esp 203 cb Lets Tie You Up.esp 204 cc DD - Interactions.esp 205 cd Kylie.esp 206 ce Apropos2.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Immersive Wenches -Enslaved Wenches patch-.esp DrunkenSluts.esp 207 cf Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp I hope you can help me to find the problem. Papyrus.0.log
Psalam Posted November 26, 2020 Posted November 26, 2020 If you are using the latest version of MoreNastyCritters it comes with its own version of Creature Framework. If you have a version loaded (other than the one that comes with MNC) you might want to start by eliminating it.
xyzxyz Posted November 26, 2020 Author Posted November 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, Psalam said: If you are using the latest version of MoreNastyCritters it comes with its own version of Creature Framework. If you have a version loaded (other than the one that comes with MNC) you might want to start by eliminating it. I use version 12.1
Tlam99 Posted November 26, 2020 Posted November 26, 2020 besides xpmse overwrites mnc checkout all this hair mods. Apachii is one of the mods related to ctd if too low in order. check with xedit, if one of this Mihails mess around with mnc. Is there any reason to have the basic mods dragonborn etc so low in order ?
xyzxyz Posted November 26, 2020 Author Posted November 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, T-lam said: besides xpmse overwrites mnc checkout all this hair mods. Apachii is one of the mods related to ctd if too low in order. check with xedit, if one of this Mihails mess around with mnc. Is there any reason to have the basic mods dragonborn etc so low in order ? No, that happend by accident. I sorted it. Let me update the topic. Mihails mods have no conflict with MNC.
Grey Cloud Posted November 26, 2020 Posted November 26, 2020 If the CTDs are only happening outdoors then it is unlikely to be anything to do with Apachii hairs, wherever Apachii is sitting in the LO. More likely, as @Psalam alluded to, it is something to do with MNC, or more specifically, creature meshes. As far as I am aware, MNC should overwrite XPMSE. Have a read/re-read of the MNC description page for the latest state of play on that front. 2 hours ago, xyzxyz said: I had to set my game up completly new again If you mean a complete reinstall then it may worth double-checking your settings for ENBoost etc. It's easy enough to miss a setting or to do a typo and input the wrong value. (Not that I've ever done anything like that, of course. ?)
macnchz Posted November 26, 2020 Posted November 26, 2020 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/105436 read this, it will help
xyzxyz Posted November 26, 2020 Author Posted November 26, 2020 51 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: If the CTDs are only happening outdoors then it is unlikely to be anything to do with Apachii hairs, wherever Apachii is sitting in the LO. More likely, as @Psalam alluded to, it is something to do with MNC, or more specifically, creature meshes. As far as I am aware, MNC should overwrite XPMSE. Have a read/re-read of the MNC description page for the latest state of play on that front. If you mean a complete reinstall then it may worth double-checking your settings for ENBoost etc. It's easy enough to miss a setting or to do a typo and input the wrong value. (Not that I've ever done anything like that, of course. ?) I checked enblocal settings. I had 3 of this file in my skyrim folder with slightly different settings. No idea why there are 3. Maybe vortex installed another version. Sadly it still crashes. MNC is not the reason, it crashes without the mod.
Grey Cloud Posted November 26, 2020 Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, xyzxyz said: Maybe vortex installed another version. Why would Vortex install anything when ENBoost is not installed via a mod manager? 1 hour ago, xyzxyz said: Sadly it still crashes. MNC is not the reason, it crashes without the mod. On a new game?
xyzxyz Posted November 26, 2020 Author Posted November 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Why would Vortex install anything when ENBoost is not installed via a mod manager? On a new game? It was installed by vortex. Maybe when I importet the mods from NexusMM. I had to delet the file in skyrim/data. It looks better now. Yes. I think I'm close to solving it. Just have to update SKSE for the newest mnc version and install the other mods again.
xyzxyz Posted November 27, 2020 Author Posted November 27, 2020 Got it. Some multiple versions of enboost and a missing crashfixplugin. Mistakes made by and after importing my mods from NexusMM to Vortex. Thank you everyone. Now I ust have to find out why the sofia body replacer doesn't work. Her nude body is always invisible no matter what body options I choose during installation.
Grey Cloud Posted November 27, 2020 Posted November 27, 2020 1 minute ago, xyzxyz said: enboost and a missing crashfixplugin. Mistakes made by and after importing my mods from NexusMM to Vortex. Neither of those should be installed through your mod manager. In fact, I don't see how ENBoost can be properly installed via a mod manager as it doesn't go in the Data folder and you only install three of the files.
xyzxyz Posted November 27, 2020 Author Posted November 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Neither of those should be installed through your mod manager. In fact, I don't see how ENBoost can be properly installed via a mod manager as it doesn't go in the Data folder and you only install three of the files. Yeah, I noticed that too. They were installed correctly years ago. No idea what happend this time. 9 minutes ago, xyzxyz said: Now I ust have to find out why the sofia body replacer doesn't work. Her nude body is always invisible no matter what body options I choose during installation. Could you help me with that too? The mod was working earlier so I guess something in the load order or overwrite rules went wrong. I'm still inexperieced with Vortex. This is the mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/61348
Grey Cloud Posted November 27, 2020 Posted November 27, 2020 As far as the Sophia replacer goes I'd get rid. Half a gig for a replacer? If you mean just her torso is missing then the files you need are femalebody_0.nif and femalebody_1.nif
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