Abraxis00 Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 View File Basic Pure Blood Interested in playing with Divine Marriage, or just seducing your cousins, but unhappy about how it tends to leave your children composed of nothing but scales and chins? Basic Pure Blood is a simple mod that reverses the consequences of incest, bringing it more in line with the traditional beliefs about pure bloodlines and Divine Blood. It is absolutely not balanced, instead being intended for pure power/sex fantasy. A properly inbred line will have very significant bonuses compared to a more normal family. Features: Inbreeding no longer grants a chance the children will have negative congenital traits such as Hunchbacked or Club Foot. Instead, it gives a chance they will gain positive congenital traits such as Fecund, Comely, or Hale. The Inbred trait has had its effects reversed, giving a bonus to all stats. The Pure Blooded trait no longer reduces the chance of inbreeding results, but instead increases them, since inbreeding results are now a good thing. I'm open to any other suggestions related to the subject, but for the moment consider the mod feature complete. Feedback and bug reports also welcome. Many thanks to Giantcock69 for creating the new Inbred icon (and RichterQ87 even if he was just slightly behind). Submitter Abraxis00 Submitted 09/24/2020 Category Crusader Kings 3 Requires 9
SamIAmHam Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 My suggestion is to have it give a chance to inherit all good congenital traits. This way, people like me who create custom characters, will always ensure their offspring has the top 3 for beauty, physique, and intelligence. Comely is quite a step down from Beauty.
Abraxis00 Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 That's essentially what I did -- I added the enables_inbred flag to all of the levels of the positive congenital traits, so it's got a chance to give any of them -- and I think an equal chance for each. (Documentation's still pretty light so far.) I'm debating whether that's too powerful even for a simple self-indulgent mod like this, but I'm undecided. If anyone wants to give it a try as it stands and see what they think, I'd appreciate feedback.
Ozvelpoon Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 My thought would be instead of increasing the likelihood of the "big three" traits (ie Beautiful; Amazonian; Genius) you may get a better experience from your mod by mixing in some of the lesser used traits. If inbreeding increased the likelihood of traits such as Giant or Albino (as well as change them to be desirable traits) it still keeps the flavor that your inbreeding is having strange consequences in your genetics but gives you neutral or even slightly positive benefits. Your main focus gameplay wise can still remain fostering the big three traits through properly arranged marriages, but your mod would kick in and splash some color to the genetic line. Other traits you may consider are - Berserker - Athletic - Strong - Shrewd As well as the previously mentioned Giant, Albino, and Fecund. Even as a self indulgent mod, I like the idea of scaling back the power a bit. As is, you mod is basically a slingshot to the "Strengthen the Bloodline" decision at which point you do not even need to think about fostering traits in your line anymore which defeats some of the fun in my opinion. Just a thought! 1
arkanoiD_ Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 12 hours ago, Abraxis00 said: just seducing your cousins Are we gonna limit ourselves now, are we?? 1
Abraxis00 Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Ozvelpoon said: Just a thought! They're good thoughts, though I'm going to have to mull them over. I'm actually starting to think about the idea of adding game rules -- perhaps something like 'Major Benefits' where you can get all the positive traits, even the top-tier ones, 'Minor Benefits' where you can only get the first level of the multi-level ones, and 'Mixed Benefits,' which is like Minor Benefits but also adds the possibility of getting the less debilitating negative traits. (I'm not sure how the enables_inbred flag I'm using works with non-congenital traits like Berserker or Athletic -- something to test when I have time, I guess.) The trouble, of course, is that I'm a very novice modder, and have never implemented a game rule before. But I'll look into it and see if I can manage. 49 minutes ago, arkanoiD_ said: Are we gonna limit ourselves now, are we?? Hey, I don't judge! Some people might just want to seduce the occasional cousin, others might want to be an immortal god-king who's the only male in your family line for twelve generations. Both are perfectly valid playstyles!
Ozvelpoon Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 Well you are well ahead of me Abraxis, I am not able to mod at all! Games rules would be ideal as you say, letting those who want a finer degree of control do as they want but it does increase the scope. My main thought was to give it some depth beyond an "easy button" inbreeding mod. 1
Abraxis00 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Posted September 27, 2020 Well, bad news is I've been poking at the coding for a while and I just can't figure out how to get the game rules to work on the traits. It could be a syntax issue, or it could be it's just not possible, I'm not sure. I'll hunt around for some advice, but the idea of game rules might just be impossible. The good news is that I've uploaded version 0.2 of the mod. This adds proper localization for Inbred making it sound more positive, and trims the traits you can spontaneously acquire from inbreeding. Now you can only get Fecund or the first level of the tiered traits (Comely, Quick, or Hale) -- still a head start on breeding towards perfection, but you'll need to do a little more work to reinforce them. Still could use the help of anyone with graphics skills to change the background of the Inbred icon from red to green.
1tomadeira Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 Sorry for the dumb question, but while does it say it gives bonus stats, are those through traits? Personally that would be more immersive, specially if it includes the fertility stat. Handsome trait would also be nice to have. Unfortunely I have to little time atm to dive into coding, but if I ever grab some I will probably try to create a family attraction/preference trait. I guess it shouldn't be that hard to make, since the game already has those modifiers. Anyway, tyvm for your mod.
Abraxis00 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Posted September 27, 2020 The 'bonus stats' are basically two things: a chance to get the beneficial congenital traits through inbreeding (the same way the base game has negative congenital traits likely to pop up), and a reversal of the stat penalties from the Inbred trait to bonuses. (There should now be a screenshot in the opening post showing what the trait looks like with the mod installed.) The mod basically only adjusts traits -- it was surprisingly easy to do it that way. Glad you enjoy the mod -- hope you have fun with it!
Giantcock69 Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 Hey, I was bored, so I decided to recolor the inbred trait for you. The background is now the same as a good congenital trait. Edit: Looking back at it, for some reason when saving it messed with some of the outside border shadows, but it should still be fine. Edit #2: It was still bugging me, so I went back in, redid it, then saved it properly, so it is now fixed. I'll leave the messed up one here as well for context. inbred = Good.dds Inbred = Good Fixed.dds
RichterQ87 Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Giantcock69 said: Hey, I was bored, so I decided to recolor the inbred trait for you. The background is now the same as a good congenital trait. Edit: Looking back at it, for some reason when saving it messed with some of the outside border shadows, but it should still be fine. Edit #2: It was still bugging me, so I went back in, redid it, then saved it properly, so it is now fixed. I'll leave the messed up one here as well for context. inbred = Good.dds 7.16 kB · 2 downloads Inbred = Good Fixed.dds 75.06 kB · 2 downloads Looks like you beat me to it lol. Just as well. Couldn't get .dds to work properly with photoshop so I ended up having to convert the dds to a png, recoloring it and converting it back. Probably broke something, but an attempt was made. Here it is anyway for reference. (Mine's a little darker) inbred-good.dds
Abraxis00 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Posted September 28, 2020 Thank you both! I'll take a look at the icons and add one in for the next update. I'll probably consider the mod feature complete at that point, but is there anything else anyone wanted to see from it? (My only other thought has been adding some incest-specific sex scenes to hook in to Carnalitas, but that'd be a bigger project, and I wonder if it might be better just to keep this one simple.)
Giantcock69 Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 4 hours ago, RichterQ87 said: Looks like you beat me to it lol. Just as well. Couldn't get .dds to work properly with photoshop so I ended up having to convert the dds to a png, recoloring it and converting it back. Probably broke something, but an attempt was made. Here it is anyway for reference. (Mine's a little darker) inbred-good.dds 14.19 kB · 1 download I've been using paint.net instead of photoshop for a while now, because when I use to edit .dds files when modding Skyrim and CK2 I had some issues with it. Also, I think either when you saved it or converted it, it messed up some of the shadows like it did with me the first time, because there are some black spots around the edges on yours like there were with my first one when I saved it in a bad format and parts of it seam blurry or smudged.
Abraxis00 Posted September 30, 2020 Author Posted September 30, 2020 Version 1.0 of the mod has been uploaded! No significant changes from the last version except adding Giantcock69's trait icon and checking to make sure it still works with the new patch. I'm considering the mod feature complete at this point. The only thing I can think of doing besides expanding into things like incest-themed sex scenes is to hunt down the places where the game mentions 'there is a chance of their offspring being inbred' and tweaking the localization so those appear in green rather than red, as it would now be a reminder of a positive thing instead of a negative. But I'll hold off on that a bit. Any further suggestions anyone has would be welcome!
goldfishman Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Abraxis00 said: Version 1.0 of the mod has been uploaded! No significant changes from the last version except adding Giantcock69's trait icon and checking to make sure it still works with the new patch. I'm considering the mod feature complete at this point. The only thing I can think of doing besides expanding into things like incest-themed sex scenes is to hunt down the places where the game mentions 'there is a chance of their offspring being inbred' and tweaking the localization so those appear in green rather than red, as it would now be a reminder of a positive thing instead of a negative. But I'll hold off on that a bit. Any further suggestions anyone has would be welcome! Personally, I’d love some incest-themed sex scenes. Coupled with this mod that’s basically exactly what I’m looking for.
Giantcock69 Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 That's really strange. For some reason the game is turning the brown branches blue, but then also somehow not affecting the rest of the icon? In the editing software, the branches are brown, and in the folder the branches are brown. I have absolutely zero clue on how the game magically made a blue tree.
Abraxis00 Posted September 30, 2020 Author Posted September 30, 2020 That's weird -- I just dragged the one you sent me into the proper folder in the mod file, and renamed it so the game would recognize it. (You could probably look at it yourself to see if there's anything different.) In any case, I don't mind the look -- it goes pretty well with the green color, and makes it stand out a little. You could even rationalize it as having to do with 'blue blood in the family tree' or something like that. 58 minutes ago, goldfishman said: Personally, I’d love some incest-themed sex scenes. Coupled with this mod that’s basically exactly what I’m looking for. I'll see if I can come up with anything. I think it should be possible to use the Carnalitas system to check for relations between characters so I can script them specifically for different forms of relations, but I'd have to work on figuring out the syntax for it. (I'd also actually want to check in some cases for the character's Faith's Tenets and Doctrines -- a person's attitude would probably be very different if their religion says it's a sin than if it says it's perfectly normal or a blessed union.) The real challenge would be getting time to write -- I've been a bit busy lately. So don't expect it soon, but it may happen.
Giantcock69 Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 Well, if you're fine with it, then it's good. I'm just perplexed as to why it's doing it.
Rhaenuriel Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 It comes up as a green icon with the brown branches for me. I'd actually prefer that the branches were blue like in the picture, or even some sort of crimson, I was never much of a fan of brown myself. Great job on the mod though!
1tomadeira Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 9 hours ago, goldfishman said: Personally, I’d love some incest-themed sex scenes. Coupled with this mod that’s basically exactly what I’m looking for. About those, since the newer chat removed restrictions on lover/soulmate limit for modding (correct me if I'm wrong), it would be nice to have events to force love relations between family members. To specify, if you have a polygamic religion, and you're married with 3 daughters for example, it would be nice if the daughters loved each other as well instead being possible to rival each other. You know, like a true family. Of course there are variations of those, just wanted to give an example. I remember this could work on CK2, but still didn't have chance to see if that happens or not on CK3. There are also many other stuff that can be applied, like educating a child and giving influence over time, or the taboo experience, etc. But the reason I mentioned the example above is that it somewhat played against the fact a spouse could want to murder an another spouse on CK2, that's what I would like to avoid. After all, the wives and family members should get along no?
goldfishman Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 17 hours ago, Abraxis00 said: I'll see if I can come up with anything. I think it should be possible to use the Carnalitas system to check for relations between characters so I can script them specifically for different forms of relations, but I'd have to work on figuring out the syntax for it. (I'd also actually want to check in some cases for the character's Faith's Tenets and Doctrines -- a person's attitude would probably be very different if their religion says it's a sin than if it says it's perfectly normal or a blessed union.) The real challenge would be getting time to write -- I've been a bit busy lately. So don't expect it soon, but it may happen. Hey, no worries! I know how it goes. Thanks for considering it, at least! :)
middlemonster Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 My launcher is saying that the mod is v0.1 and requires 1.0.3
Abraxis00 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Posted October 2, 2020 Yeah, I'm not sure what happened there, but somehow the revisions I made to the .mod file didn't seem to have saved properly. It should still function properly, but if you don't want the error message, I just uploaded version 1.0.1, which should have the revised .mod file. (No other updates to anything.) Edit: Okay, that's odd. It looks like whenever I open up the Paradox Launcher, it overwrites the .mod file with the very first version I used. That might be what's happening to you, too. I don't have time to sort that out today, but I'll try to take a look at it over the weekend. 1
middlemonster Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 It seems to work fine, at least the Inbred trait has all positives and the icon is blue. So it looks like the only issue is with the launcher recognizing the file properly. Thanks for the quick response.
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