TheNecromorpher Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 Seems my headaches aren't over; can't launch the game WITH pluggy (for whatever reason something wrong with the .dlx file itself (not sure if the mod itself added in a screen saying it can't run it, or that was something else; like with a similar mod for Skyrim where you'd get a little popup saying "[something went wrong]"), already tried simply using 125-c to the same effect), can't run WITHOUT pluggy as I'd get 5 secs between prompts telling me that Pluggy's not installed.
TheNecromorpher Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 Another dbl post; what do? Â In a bit of a paradox, need it in game, but can't launch it either... Â
TheNecromorpher Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 Triple post; deleting the other file that Pluggy itself came with and re-extracting the 5 part zip file to get the Pluggy HUD files, got this:
fejeena Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Have you renamed OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll to OBSE_Elys_Pluggy-Hud.dll Only ONE Pluggy.dll in the data\OBSE\Plugins folder, only the renamed HUD version.  In the data\OBSE\plugins folder OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dlx OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll weOCPS.dll  ( Oblivion crash protection System: is not necessary to play the mod, some say it causes crashes. I use it )  EDIT: You have OBSE installed ? And start the game with OBSE !  EDIT2 : I use Pluggy 125-c ( no HUD, because I do not play Cursed Armour , and no other Mod I have needs the HUD version ) OBSE 22.4.1 And the old Elys Universal Silent Voice (OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dlx) version 93 from 2008 And weOCPS.dll Edited October 9, 2021 by fejeena
TheNecromorpher Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 I have xOBSE 2.1, or whatever; my little dual-core APU laptop for whatever reason couldn't use the OBSE modded launcher (it's on the Nexus under "OBSE launcher" I think); xOBSE doesn't have the annoying popup about it's loader not needing to be launched like most modern SE's (like SSE and FOSE). Â Previously tried Oblivion Working Girls (which also needed Pluggy) and ran into a problem where Pluggy wouldn't run when I launched Oblivion, despite having Vortex install it and also having told Vortex to run OBSE_loader when I press it's [play now] button (likely cause my setup isn't "optimal").
TheNecromorpher Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 This much headache's not worth it anymore, getting a error/popup in-game that I need the HUD file (at about the same every 5 secs it does when you don't have Pluggy installed); having to rename the files to unzip the main file(s) to get to this point was wasted effort, as the necessary file is probably borked (or it was always borked) on my end, and I won't re download ~425 MBs of stuff to get a single file that might not be borked.
fejeena Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Your problem is OBSE  With no Steam Oblivion version you start Oblivion with obse_loader.exe (it's part of the OBSE download ( No Nexus Mod ) http://obse.silverlock.org/   If you do not have Steam Oblivion: Here my working files OBSE Pluggy (pluggy is HUD version ) OCPS Elys_USV Oblivion.7z You unpack it in an empty folder You open the Oblivion folder You copy the 3 OBSE files and the data folder in your game Oblivion folder ( the 3 OBSE files must be in your Oblivion folder ) You start the game with the obse_loader.exe or OBSE and all OBSE plugins will not work !  ! If you do not use a Steam Oblivion version !    With Steam Oblivion you install the obse_steam_loader.dll (also part of the OBSE download ) or download this obse_steam_loader.7z Unpack and copy in the Oblivion folder, delete the obse_loader.exe . (Yes, install my Oblivion.7z files first ) Start Oblivion with Oblivion.exe or Steam ! more in the Link below "Have you ever read" !   And why Vortex ?????  And OBSE you can not install with a Modmanager !!! You must install it manually !!!! Modmanager install in the Oblivion\data folder, but OBSE files are in the Oblivion folder .  Have you ever read https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbb-load-order-sorting-espesm-cleaning-cs-cse-body-stretching/  Edited October 9, 2021 by fejeena
TheNecromorpher Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 Personally, don't want to have to relearn a mod manager. Vortex isn't the best; but with Wyre Bash, OBMM, and LOOT, those 3 programs can handle most Vortex oddities (like OMODS, Bash installers and the general load order (though I think Vortex has a load order manager built in). I don't simply use just Vortex, as it's not ideal for a host of old mods (which are pretty much just omods, if not a manual install type mod).
TheNecromorpher Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 For whatever reason Pluggy itself works (v. 125-c), but the versions in this all-in-one don't work; keep hitting the error at launch that the .dlx file doesn't work. Even with your files.
fejeena Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 LOOT does not work with Oblivion ! Also Vortex is not the best for Oblivion.  If you have OBMM and WyreBash it's okay. But not LOOT sorting ( I saw some LOOT sorted Mod lists... a miracle that the game started )  Just for testing I renamed my pluggy to HUD and it works without problems. (And you have all the files I use )  Have you read my Link ?  Where is your game ? C : program files x86 ???  If yes OBSE and pluggy will not work correct. A few people get the game to work with OBSE and OBSE plugings, some can run it with OBSE but no OBSE plugins  and for most people game and CS with OBSE does not work. NEVER install the game in C : program files x86 ! ! !
TheNecromorpher Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 It's installed under programs, once tried to just move my install (without having Steam move it for me, it only works on moving to a different drive altogether; only on a 128gb m.2 ssd, don't really have the best setup) to desktop and got a Steam app error.
TheNecromorpher Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 Of course now it works, no idea why suddenly now moving my whole Oblivion install works; think I didn't have xOBSE last time, or was using that modded OBSE launcher
TheNecromorpher Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 Got the same .dlx error as I did when it was in /Programs.
fejeena Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 Then I'm out of options. Don't know. Maybe Pluggy doesn't like you.
TheNecromorpher Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 Pluggy from off the Nexus works fine (have v. 125-c installed right now), the version in this pack either doesn't like my setup and/or is borked.
TheNecromorpher Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 Using Pluggy off of the Nexus results in the paradox error, where in-game it would spam that it needs the hud file to run if I were to not replace the base Pluggy with this mod's version and I need to delete the only other file that Pluggy comes with for it to not tell me that Pluggy HUD is an older version and should be deleted (iirc) at launch like that .dlx error.
fejeena Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 ???? You install the working Nexus Puggy. Then you rename the OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll to OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll . Do NOT rename the OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dlx Both files are in your data\OBSE\plugins folder.  You DO NOT have a two dll in the folder !  NO OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll and OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll
TheNecromorpher Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 I did that, there's a error message in-game saying that pluggy_hud failed to initialize. It does it every 5 (or so) seconds.
TheNecromorpher Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 I initially misread your post, but there are 2 Pluggy .dlx files packed into this 5 part file;
fejeena Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 That is not the nexus download !!!!  And it can't work, there is no .dll file ( Why are there files without extension ? .dlx is displayed but no dll ?. And the OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dlx is wrong ! The dlx will not be renamed )  ------------------------------  I unpacked the original Nexus 125c pluggy there are 3 files OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dlx and a docs folder you don't need You delete ALL Pluggy files in your data\OBSE\plugins folder ! (Also the weOCPS, why is there no .dll at the end ? ) Then you copy the 125c OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll and OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dlx in your data\OBSE\plugins folder. Then you rename only the dll files ( OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll  to OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll )  You only have two Pluggy files is your data\OBSE\plugins folder.  here the original 125c files and the weOCPS.dll Pluggy v125c.7z Install: Delete ALL pluggy files and weOCPS in you game OBSE\plugins folder. Unpack the Pluggy v125c.7z , open the folder and copy the 3 files and paste in your data\OBSE\plugins folder. Then you only have two Pluggy files is your data\OBSE\plugins folder. OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dlx and the weOCPS.dll --------------------------   Or you use the cursed armor pluggy files plugins.7z Install: the same as above, delete ALL pluggy files and weOCPS in you game OBSE\plugins folder. Unpack this file , open the folder and copy the 3 files, paste in your OBSE\plugins folder. Then you only have two Pluggy files is your data\OBSE\plugins folder. OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dlx and the weOCPS.dll  _______________________ If you still get a error message then OBSE don't work... but I don't know why.
TheNecromorpher Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 Those files do actually have an extension, just that they're in a category to the right off-"capture", those files are .dll files; for whatever bright idea (I don't know if it's a setting, or Win 10 just does it), the .dlx files aren't in a category, like with the .dll files, and are included with the name of the file. Same thing happens with .log and .ini files, I don't know why.
alster523 Posted December 1, 2021 Posted December 1, 2021 You my man are a god amonst men my great thanks for this as i was reinstalling oblivion and both wanted and dreaded finding all the stuff for cursed armor again.
alster523 Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 Where does the obsence chair and bed come from? in the room next to where you get the armor there is two missing texture blocks that the console says are those two things.
fejeena Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 In the house in Skingrad are two rooms. One you can enter to start the quest (get the armor) The other room is not finished and not ued in the Mod/Quest. Do not enter the room, you don't need it.
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