[WIP] Beast Interaction

[Guest wellbredbitch]

i was told that there are great mods for doggy love in oblivion. lovers bitch gone wild is it? but i don't play that so i will keep my fingers crossed for a skyrim mod. . i still can't work out the spells to pose me and my dog in FNISEISv1_1LL. 

[Guest DeleteMePlease]

I fully support this!

Are you planning on releaseing the mod bit-by-bit (i.e. once dogs are done, they get a version released. then on to the next one) or an all in one kind of deal? Might be a little soon to ask this since i know you arent even going to work on it until the meshes are done and what-not. I was just curious.

It will be an all-in-one version that will cover as many as possible. Having versions by the race would end up in too many separate plugins that basically use the same root.

 

my question is related to my companion judah. is it possible that with the mod he could mount my character in this scenario?

I haven't yet looked into dialogue triggered actions. At the moment the mod is aimed at a different goal:

You will have a chance to get into the bleedout state (where your character goes down and isn't able to do anything but waiting for a few seconds) when below a certain percentage of health on hit. As long as you are in that state, NPCss that are close to you will cue up for having intercourse with you. If the NPCs don't move fast enough to your location you will stand up again and continue combat. The trick currently is that this also should work vice versa, i.e. when you are in Werewolf form you will be able to rape them as well by simply continuing attacking when they are in bleedout state.

There is still much work to do as it randomly flood crashes and the actions don't get triggered properly yet. Also I'm not sure if SexLab will soon include Beast/Animal-race recognition support or if I need to do this the current, difficult and not that clean way.

 

This would be nice but please, no Fnis spells or alike, that would break the immersion,  "Lovers bitch gone wild" style for oblivion is nicer, good luck.

First of all, it will use FNIS as it is required by SexLab. I assume you are talking about the fact that you need to trigger intercourse via a spell. Well... one plugin with serve the earlier stated attempt to "maintain immersion", another one will give the player spells to force trigger it.

 

 

I'm also uncertain if the kind of race recognition I pursue is the right attempt to archive what I really need. Nonetheless we are on the right track I guess.

 

Sincerely

EB

[brankomilenko]

 

I fully support this!

Are you planning on releaseing the mod bit-by-bit (i.e. once dogs are done, they get a version released. then on to the next one) or an all in one kind of deal? Might be a little soon to ask this since i know you arent even going to work on it until the meshes are done and what-not. I was just curious.

It will be an all-in-one version that will cover as many as possible. Having versions by the race would end up in too many separate plugins that basically use the same root.

 

my question is related to my companion judah. is it possible that with the mod he could mount my character in this scenario?

I haven't yet looked into dialogue triggered actions. At the moment the mod is aimed at a different goal:

You will have a chance to get into the bleedout state (where your character goes down and isn't able to do anything but waiting for a few seconds) when below a certain percentage of health on hit. As long as you are in that state, NPCss that are close to you will cue up for having intercourse with you. If the NPCs don't move fast enough to your location you will stand up again and continue combat. The trick currently is that this also should work vice versa, i.e. when you are in Werewolf form you will be able to rape them as well by simply continuing attacking when they are in bleedout state.

There is still much work to do as it randomly flood crashes and the actions don't get triggered properly yet. Also I'm not sure if SexLab will soon include Beast/Animal-race recognition support or if I need to do this the current, difficult and not that clean way.

 

This would be nice but please, no Fnis spells or alike, that would break the immersion,  "Lovers bitch gone wild" style for oblivion is nicer, good luck.

First of all, it will use FNIS as it is required by SexLab. I assume you are talking about the fact that you need to trigger intercourse via a spell. Well... one plugin with serve the earlier stated attempt to "maintain immersion", another one will give the player spells to force trigger it.

 

 

I'm also uncertain if the kind of race recognition I pursue is the right attempt to archive what I really need. Nonetheless we are on the right track I guess.

 

Sincerely

EB

 

 

Hi, what I mean is that in the mod "Lovers Bitch Gone Wild" to force intercourse you had the ability to lay down in fours to invite doggies with a key, or if you had a dog companion, he'll try to mount you and sometimes rape your character out of the blue, and sometimes if you were in heat and see a dog in the street your character would lay down in fours to invite the dog, I never had so much fun with an adult mod.

[Guest wellbredbitch]

you have exactly the same idea in mind as me brankomilenko.  a mod that allows any dog to knock down, mount and fuck your pc anywhere wether she wants it too or not. an unexpected suprise is allways fun.

[brankomilenko]

Exactly, the fact that you have to select a spell to have your way is kind of disappointing, sexlab kind of fix that with the mods sexlab romance and lover's comfort, so you can actually ask people, but in the animal kingdom, the only rule is instinct.

you have exactly the same idea in mind as me brankomilenko.  a mod that allows any dog to knock down, mount and fuck your pc anywhere wether she wants it too or not. an unexpected suprise is allways fun.

 

[Kuroshu]

Domestic Dogs? I don't think they'd just mount you as they please unless they were trained to do so or you actively provoke them.

Wild dogs? They'll do as they please. You look like you'd make for a good mate, they'll mount you weather you want to or not.

 

If you don't want spell, potions are an alternative. A vial of Hormones will let domestic animals act on instinct giving them a chance to mount you on their own, and would also higher the chance of wild animals mounting you. On the other side you can have another type of potion that will lessen the chance if not remove the possibility of wild animal mounting you for a certain amount of time.

[Guest wellbredbitch]

very true. domesticated dogs only mount if encouraged to do it. i have several female chat buddies whose entire sex life is with their canine lovers.

 

 

 i would like to see something like your potion idea. it would solve both the domestic/companion and the wolves in the wild.  like a signal  for dogs and wolves  broadcasting

" BITCH WAITING TO BE BRED "

 

my girl meeting a pack of wolves in the wild would be delicious! sequential relentless fucking and knotting ! i hope she can get her panties down fast enough for them!

[Guest wellbredbitch]

something that recently popped into my twisted mind.  

 

i was fighting an icetroll and i thought mmmmm i bet that would fuck my girl silly.  has anyone ever had this idea before? i'm sure someone has.

[Kuroshu]

I think we all have though of our female characters being fucked silly by almost all of the creatures of skyrim. Dragons, Trolls, slaughter fish, MUDCRABS! Yeah, I said it. Mudcrabs. 

And i would bet that we have though of having our Male characters Fucking all the ATTRACTIVE female NPCs of Skyrim.

 

 

[brankomilenko]

Domestic Dogs? I don't think they'd just mount you as they please unless they were trained to do so or you actively provoke them.

Wild dogs? They'll do as they please. You look like you'd make for a good mate, they'll mount you weather you want to or not.

 

If you don't want spell, potions are an alternative. A vial of Hormones will let domestic animals act on instinct giving them a chance to mount you on their own, and would also higher the chance of wild animals mounting you. On the other side you can have another type of potion that will lessen the chance if not remove the possibility of wild animal mounting you for a certain amount of time.

 

Hi, funny you mention the potion, in Lover's Bitch there were potions called pheromone or something, don't really remember but they raise or lower the chance to being knotted, and about the domestic dogs, true story, 2 years ago my girlfriend got on her knees to change the game on my ps3 and my dog whtich I haven't trained or even suggested to do so try to mount her, he really scare the shit out of us, besides, I've never even seen this kind of thing, the first time I saw it was with the oblivion mod, since I try out all mods I can and I read comments about Lovers bitch, and man after I saw it I kind of like it.

[Guest wellbredbitch]

i'm told some dogs are particularly enthused by the scent from human females genitalia when they are in the egg stage of their cycle. this makes them very keen to mount and inseminate the woman. i used to love the videos my chat buddies made of their dogs in the tie with them. you can clearly see the dogs anus contracting as it pumps more of it's semen  into their soaking wet, thoroughly fucked,  deeply knotted pussy. deliciously disgusting! i like watching it but i don't  think i'd enjoy seeing my wife get fucked by a dog.

 

that is why i would like a mod like lover's bitch for skyrim. so my skanky lesbian vampire slut character can get fucked hard by a pack of wild dogs or wolves. five or six  big dogs one after the other should leave her crawling and leaking their spunk for a couple of hours. what a screen shot that would be!

[brankomilenko]

i'm told some dogs are particularly enthused by the scent from human females genitalia when they are in the egg stage of their cycle. this makes them very keen to mount and inseminate the woman. i used to love the videos my chat buddies made of their dogs in the tie with them. you can clearly see the dogs anus contracting as it pumps more of it's semen  into their soaking wet, thoroughly fucked,  deeply knotted pussy. deliciously disgusting! i like watching it but i don't  think i'd enjoy seeing my wife get fucked by a dog.

 

that is why i would like a mod like lover's bitch for skyrim. so my skanky lesbian vampire slut character can get fucked hard by a pack of wild dogs or wolves. five or six  big dogs one after the other should leave her crawling and leaking their spunk for a couple of hours. what a screen shot that would be!

 

Well, you are in a whole new league, I haven't watch a video of real girls with puppies, much less chat about it, as I said, I'm kind of new to this, and that could explain why the dog do that, never the less, since my girl was scare of him I had to get him out of the house, since I'm happy to say my life has been a breeze with no problems what so ever, that was the only time I was scared, the dog barking, my girl screaming, the whole production.

Hopefully somebody make it happen for skyrim.

[Guest DeleteMePlease]

Hi, what I mean is that in the mod "Lovers Bitch Gone Wild" to force intercourse you had the ability to lay down in fours to invite doggies with a key, or if you had a dog companion, he'll try to mount you and sometimes rape your character out of the blue, and sometimes if you were in heat and see a dog in the street your character would lay down in fours to invite the dog, I never had so much fun with an adult mod.

 

you have exactly the same idea in mind as me brankomilenko.  a mod that allows any dog to knock down, mount and fuck your pc anywhere wether she wants it too or not. an unexpected suprise is allways fun.

Domestic Dogs? I don't think they'd just mount you as they please unless they were trained to do so or you actively provoke them.

Wild dogs? They'll do as they please. You look like you'd make for a good mate, they'll mount you weather you want to or not.

 

If you don't want spell, potions are an alternative. A vial of Hormones will let domestic animals act on instinct giving them a chance to mount you on their own, and would also higher the chance of wild animals mounting you. On the other side you can have another type of potion that will lessen the chance if not remove the possibility of wild animal mounting you for a certain amount of time.

very true. domesticated dogs only mount if encouraged to do it. i have several female chat buddies whose entire sex life is with their canine lovers.

 

 

 i would like to see something like your potion idea. it would solve both the domestic/companion and the wolves in the wild.  like a signal  for dogs and wolves  broadcasting

" BITCH WAITING TO BE BRED "

 

my girl meeting a pack of wolves in the wild would be delicious! sequential relentless fucking and knotting ! i hope she can get her panties down fast enough for them!

Hi, funny you mention the potion, in Lover's Bitch there were potions called pheromone or something, don't really remember but they raise or lower the chance to being knotted, and about the domestic dogs, true story, 2 years ago my girlfriend got on her knees to change the game on my ps3 and my dog whtich I haven't trained or even suggested to do so try to mount her, he really scare the shit out of us, besides, I've never even seen this kind of thing, the first time I saw it was with the oblivion mod, since I try out all mods I can and I read comments about Lovers bitch, and man after I saw it I kind of like it.

i'm told some dogs are particularly enthused by the scent from human females genitalia when they are in the egg stage of their cycle. this makes them very keen to mount and inseminate the woman. i used to love the videos my chat buddies made of their dogs in the tie with them. you can clearly see the dogs anus contracting as it pumps more of it's semen  into their soaking wet, thoroughly fucked,  deeply knotted pussy. deliciously disgusting! i like watching it but i don't  think i'd enjoy seeing my wife get fucked by a dog.

 

that is why i would like a mod like lover's bitch for skyrim. so my skanky lesbian vampire slut character can get fucked hard by a pack of wild dogs or wolves. five or six  big dogs one after the other should leave her crawling and leaking their spunk for a couple of hours. what a screen shot that would be!

Well, you are in a whole new league, I haven't watch a video of real girls with puppies, much less chat about it, as I said, I'm kind of new to this, and that could explain why the dog do that, never the less, since my girl was scare of him I had to get him out of the house, since I'm happy to say my life has been a breeze with no problems what so ever, that was the only time I was scared, the dog barking, my girl screaming, the whole production.

Hopefully somebody make it happen for skyrim.

Uff... I'll put this into the "dog-related-features-list" even though the features hidden withing your posts will be available for all animals. I do not have a problem about much text to read, as it most often clarifies things, but reading eight posts that are basically about the points:

 

Instinctual interaction ("planting" a "a.i." that sets up dogs near you).

Higher chance of interaction by taking potions (just give that "a.i." a higher chance to go on you)

 

is quite strange .

 

something that recently popped into my twisted mind.  

 

i was fighting an icetroll and i thought mmmmm i bet that would fuck my girl silly.  has anyone ever had this idea before? i'm sure someone has.

I think we all have though of our female characters being fucked silly by almost all of the creatures of skyrim. Dragons, Trolls, slaughter fish, MUDCRABS! Yeah, I said it. Mudcrabs. 

And i would bet that we have though of having our Male characters Fucking all the ATTRACTIVE female NPCs of Skyrim.

Finally, some that recognized this isn't all about dogs .

 

Don't get me wrong, but this is really not just about dogs, even though most people may or may not relate to that easier than to interaction with non existing or plain silly human-animal intercourse combinations.

Said here: This mod will, when I'm done running into errors and made up a decision to wait for a SexLab race-recognition feature or not, enable you to have sexual interaction with basically everything living (maybe not butterflies.... ).

 

Sooo.... uhm... I'm still struggling with the decision of how to implement race detection and therefor this is still early alpha. The features you demand will definitely be included, but not at this current stage. If the detection works flawlessly, I'll start shifting focus.

 

Sincerely

EB

[shinji72]

I think the comunity is just in dire need of a falmer combat rape...

[shinji72]

I think the comunity is just in dire need of a falmer combat rape...

[Guest wellbredbitch]

sex with any living thing? the guy who was hot for mudcrabs will be pleased hehe.  thank you for all you hard work so far EB. 

[brankomilenko]

And  the people who wanted dragons would be pleased too, I even saw some meshes to give them breasts, thanks EB.

[Kuroshu]

Female Dragons? Only If they turn into sexy dragon girls ie. Japanese monster girls and not just a dragons with breasts and vagina. Now if your saying a male dragon banging a female girl then that's fine.

 

Also I mentioned mudcrabs as a joke...cause then you'll get crabs from screwing with the mud... Get it? It's less funny when one explains the joke...

 

That Race detection thing might be important but to be honest that's not as important as the extreme lack of Beast and Human sex animation. Even if you manage to get the system/functions to work the lack of animations will just render it useless. So if you decide not to work on the system till the feature you are looking for is implemented  or if your not looking for a way to implement it then you might want to start making animations first. 

In fact you should make animations first before working on the system. If you have a few out then more modders might actually be more interested in making content for beasts.

The real reason we lack Beast Interaction is not because we are lacking in people who desire it but rather the lack of animation for it. If some one released atleast 1 or 2 animations for beast sex then I can almost guarantee that there would be a boom in beast related mods. 

 

 

[lordofthedread]

Female Dragons? Only If they turn into sexy dragon girls ie. Japanese monster girls and not just a dragons with breasts and vagina. Now if your saying a male dragon banging a female girl then that's fine.

 

Also I mentioned mudcrabs as a joke...cause then you'll get crabs from screwing with the mud... Get it? It's less funny when one explains the joke...

 

That Race detection thing might be important but to be honest that's not as important as the extreme lack of Beast and Human sex animation. Even if you manage to get the system/functions to work the lack of animations will just render it useless. So if you decide not to work on the system till the feature you are looking for is implemented  or if your not looking for a way to implement it then you might want to start making animations first. 

In fact you should make animations first before working on the system. If you have a few out then more modders might actually be more interested in making content for beasts.

The real reason we lack Beast Interaction is not because we are lacking in people who desire it but rather the lack of animation for it. If some one released atleast 1 or 2 animations for beast sex then I can almost guarantee that there would be a boom in beast related mods. 

 

I mya be wrong but it seems that making animations in Skyrim is rather tricky since it has to do with behaviors and you cant really create animations from scratch but only by modifying these behavior files.

 

I never did any animation so maybe I am totally wrong but thats what I thought I understood.

 

So if I undertood that correctly making animations for beasts could be very tricky.

[Guest DeleteMePlease]

Female Dragons? Only If they turn into sexy dragon girls ie. Japanese monster girls and not just a dragons with breasts and vagina. Now if your saying a male dragon banging a female girl then that's fine.

 

Also I mentioned mudcrabs as a joke...cause then you'll get crabs from screwing with the mud... Get it? It's less funny when one explains the joke...

 

That Race detection thing might be important but to be honest that's not as important as the extreme lack of Beast and Human sex animation. Even if you manage to get the system/functions to work the lack of animations will just render it useless. So if you decide not to work on the system till the feature you are looking for is implemented  or if your not looking for a way to implement it then you might want to start making animations first. 

In fact you should make animations first before working on the system. If you have a few out then more modders might actually be more interested in making content for beasts.

The real reason we lack Beast Interaction is not because we are lacking in people who desire it but rather the lack of animation for it. If some one released atleast 1 or 2 animations for beast sex then I can almost guarantee that there would be a boom in beast related mods. 

It seems that you haven't read the whole thread like many others, nor really understand what's "needed" or said to accomplish this task.

I really get sick and tired of repeating my s**t over and over again, especially as its obvious and plain simple.

Animations without a mod that is able to use them are rendered useless the same way as the mod is without animation (things you would know if you got knowledge about the way Skyrim handles animations). The major difference is that animating is by far easier than building up code and therefor it is just dead stupid to start with something that doesn't really require knowledge nor skill compared to programming. If you differ, feel free to start your own resource of animations or mod. Same goes for your "ideal" of female dragons.

 

Beside the fact that you maybe should rethink the way you write as it sounds demanding and commanding (even though you are not in charge) it is also unwise trying to convince the only one that currently seems to be working on this with hints and tips that are actually worth nothing at all due to lack of knowledge.

 

At the moment I really regret the decision to make this mod (development) public as it gets really out of hand caused by posts like this and by that also quite annoying.

If this continues like this, I guess I'll cease posting here till it's done and unfortunately deny everyone the possibility to take influence on this mod as I wont read anything.

 

EB

 

Post Scriptum: I have never imagined that this thread will become what it is now. Basically the fact that some people are demanding or requesting something (there is a difference in demanding/requesting and suggesting that apparently just few people are aware of) without actual knowledge about the difficulty or order really angers me. All I wanted in this thread are either bug-reports (that currently can't be as I haven't released anything in public) or suggesting/opinion post. Believe me or not, but it is possible to write down your intention as a suggestion rather than a demand/request. Especially talking an idea of somebody else down gets me into rage real quick as long as it isn't clearly stated an opinion of you own.

 

I don't want anyone to feel like he needs to hold back his opinion just to not conflict with me or anyone, but keep it as an opinion and watch the way you write something. (My texts sometimes take up to half an hour to create, just to make sure that they unmistakably represent my opinion).

 

I highly doubt that there will be any chance of change in this thread but hope dies last.

[shinji72]

What I would like to see (in my opinion!) is a combat rape mod with creatures. The more humanoid ones, like falmer, trolls or draug. Wolf or bears having their way with you (instead of eating you) may be a nice fantasy, but would be a bit immersion breaking in a real game play through. 

You could imagine a situation with a horny dibella priestess covering herself with scent to entice animal, of course. But that seems to me stuff for another mod.
 

[Kuroshu]

 

-My post-

-Your Post-

 

The Dragon girl thing is my thing, and I'm fine if people don't make one like it. Was just saying what my preference was. It just means I wouldn't Fuck a dragon as a male PC.

 

Yes I'm a lazy fucker so I didn't read it completely, skimmed thru it would be the better term for what I did. I do have some concept of how the "animation" with skyrim is handled. Can't make them but Edit them.

You might be taking what I said in a different way.

 

I was saying that people might work more in all kinds of beast interaction if there was already something to work with ie animations.

You said that you were waiting for a system that can do race detection. That's fine but are you also trying to find a way your self or just waiting? If you were just waiting then I suggested that you try looking into doing some of the animation bits. That way you are in one way or the other making some progress.

 

Anim is a resource, a mod uses that resource, a reason for the lack of a certain mod is either because of the lack in interest or resource. I think there's plenty in LL who are interested, but just not enough resource (Anim) to use. We already have some models (Dogs, And that big Busty Dragon...). You also say it's easy to make said Anim, but I don't see alot of them around, atleast not for the purpose of this mod you are working on.

 

To disregard someone's opinion because they lack knowledge is a bit... arrogant, if that is the right word. Don't have to know something to have an opinion. I wasn't even touching on how to make the mod. Do I need knowledge on how to make animations to suggest when you should probably start making them? 

 

PS: I am not very good with communication so If you think I was demanding then I am sorry, I wasn't demanding. My post are my opinion. If you still can't understand what I am saying then I can't help you there. If you understand what I am trying to say and simply disagree well say so.

 

Lastly, This is getting Off-Topic. I do agree that you probably shouldn't have made this thread until you had something to show. An Alpha, Proof-of-concept, Screenshots, etc. You should ask a Moderator to lock this on and remake another more for actual development talk. Meaning experience people talking about code.

[Guest DeleteMePlease]

Ceased for now.

[bananana]

 

 

-My post-

-Your Post-

 

The Dragon girl thing is my thing, and I'm fine if people don't make one like it. Was just saying what my preference was. It just means I wouldn't Fuck a dragon as a male PC.

 

Yes I'm a lazy fucker so I didn't read it completely, skimmed thru it would be the better term for what I did. I do have some concept of how the "animation" with skyrim is handled. Can't make them but Edit them.

You might be taking what I said in a different way.

 

I was saying that people might work more in all kinds of beast interaction if there was already something to work with ie animations.

You said that you were waiting for a system that can do race detection. That's fine but are you also trying to find a way your self or just waiting? If you were just waiting then I suggested that you try looking into doing some of the animation bits. That way you are in one way or the other making some progress.

 

Anim is a resource, a mod uses that resource, a reason for the lack of a certain mod is either because of the lack in interest or resource. I think there's plenty in LL who are interested, but just not enough resource (Anim) to use. We already have some models (Dogs, And that big Busty Dragon...). You also say it's easy to make said Anim, but I don't see alot of them around, atleast not for the purpose of this mod you are working on.

 

To disregard someone's opinion because they lack knowledge is a bit... arrogant, if that is the right word. Don't have to know something to have an opinion. I wasn't even touching on how to make the mod. Do I need knowledge on how to make animations to suggest when you should probably start making them? 

 

PS: I am not very good with communication so If you think I was demanding then I am sorry, I wasn't demanding. My post are my opinion. If you still can't understand what I am saying then I can't help you there. If you understand what I am trying to say and simply disagree well say so.

 

Lastly, This is getting Off-Topic. I do agree that you probably shouldn't have made this thread until you had something to show. An Alpha, Proof-of-concept, Screenshots, etc. You should ask a Moderator to lock this on and remake another more for actual development talk. Meaning experience people talking about code.

 

i wasn't aware of the stupidity in one person to do the same mistake twice. good job, hopefully you achieved what you were up to by stopping everyone else from getting further information on EBs thread. the fact that EBs post got likes seems to be unknown to you too, else you might have noticed that you did a serious mistake on that one already.

 

oh, and if you might havent noticed due to overall, self-stated lack of communication skills: sometimes its simply better to keep your mouth shut, especially when you arent able to pick up the work one does for free for the community. i highly doubt that EB is n need to publish it, he could just keep it for himself if he would like to, but his decision was to share it, at least until now.

 

it is funny how you think he is "arrogant" when you are the one that actually is by now.

 

one thing i have really have to point out too: you dont just lack communcation skill, you also lack reading skills

 

Don't get me wrong, but this is really not just about dogs, even though most people may or may not relate to that easier than to interaction with non existing or plain silly human-animal intercourse combinations.

Said here: This mod will, when I'm done running into errors and made up a decision to wait for a SexLab race-recognition feature or not, enable you to have sexual interaction with basically everything living (maybe not butterflies.... ).

 

Sooo.... uhm... I'm still struggling with the decision of how to implement race detection and therefor this is still early alpha. The features you demand will definitely be included, but not at this current stage. If the detection works flawlessly, I'll start shifting focus.

 

Sincerely

EB

 

here translated in a langue you may understand (with context dragged from other posts he made):

he aldready got his own race detection script and just waits to see if sexlab develops his own.

 

i guess i speak for many people that are now affected by this too: i do hold you responsible for the cease and you should definitely work on your softskills in your (obviously not exisiting) reallife.

 

p.s.: its funny to notice that you both are about the same age but EB appears to be much more mature and down-to-earth.

[Ashal]

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