SLSF Fame Comments Reloaded

[Gristle]

3 hours ago, 453634573745 said:

The new marriage systems are a nice start, but there's a lot of room for improvement. There's a mod called PetProject SE which has unfortunately seen no development for 2+ years but it has a lot of great ideas, like the relationship status and overall tone/mood being driven through dialogue after the marriage ceremony rather then settings in an MCM, and one thing in particular that was great is if the PC follows certain dialogue options and then tells the spouse they're a virgin, the spouse opts to forcibly keep them that way. I'd like to see a lot more dialogue surrounding the first times certain events happen, PC conversations with the spouse before and after events, etc. More dialogue and variations all around good but I'm sure that was already the plan. There's like 4 mods in all of existence other then this one with "open relationship" content and only one of them (dirtyborn) is particularly good, so I'm glad you picked up the mantle.

I definitely plan to add more events, for example, forced chastity for cuckold PCs. The current question is how to do that effectively without making DD a dependency.

 

As for setting spouse personality through dialogue, I don't know a great way to do that. I did this in my Public Whore Comments mod (another "open relationship" mod), but it's a bit awkward. At the end of the day, you are picking a PC dialogue line that sets the spouse's personality. It ends up being the PC basically telling the spouse what personality they have, which is odd. And with five different relationship types, it's not easy to write dialogue lines that clearly reflect which relationship type is being chosen. 

[AxeMEMES]

hello my PC character is Male but keeps playing the female responses does this have a male setting? or some way to change the way the mod determines the PC gender?

[453634573745]

On 4/30/2024 at 5:15 PM, Gristle said:

I definitely plan to add more events, for example, forced chastity for cuckold PCs. The current question is how to do that effectively without making DD a dependency.

 

As for setting spouse personality through dialogue, I don't know a great way to do that. I did this in my Public Whore Comments mod (another "open relationship" mod), but it's a bit awkward. At the end of the day, you are picking a PC dialogue line that sets the spouse's personality. It ends up being the PC basically telling the spouse what personality they have, which is odd. And with five different relationship types, it's not easy to write dialogue lines that clearly reflect which relationship type is being chosen. 

 

Well, you could for example after marriage have a window for the player to initiate dialogue and determine between spouse is cuckold and spouse likes to share by a choice between a suggestion or a command, ie "What do you think about spicing things up?" vs "I'm going to have some fun. You get to watch". If the PC doesn't activate either dialogue option and the window is missed, after a few days pass, spouse propositions the PC and the player is given the options

"Absolutely not." - vanilla

"I'm not sure, I don't think that's a very good idea (lie)" - cuckold

"Sure why not, that sounds fun" - sharing

[Celedhring]

LOL...was just hit with "Dibellian Whore of Markarth" while in the middle of performing my PC's "Public Whore" duties in Markarth.  XD

And atop it all, she was arrested and made Public Whore in Markarth while bringing in donations to the Temple of Dibella from her work as a Dibellian novice.  Being accosted as the Public Whore also triggered a "crowd queue" in a very busy intersection in Markarth near the keep.  

It was very crowded..the bed hid part of the crowd... My PC has daedric abuse markings from Apropos 2 as she was the pet of a daedra for a while.  It's very difficult to get rid of those markings....ugggh. 

How's that for comedy? 

Edited May 2, 2024 by Celedhring

[Gristle]

12 hours ago, AxeMEMES said:

hello my PC character is Male but keeps playing the female responses does this have a male setting? or some way to change the way the mod determines the PC gender?

There's no MCM setting for PC gender. The comments just use the standard Male/Female dialogue conditions. I might have set a condition or two wrong somewhere, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the M/F conditions are correct. Are you never getting male-appropriate responses for your male PC?

[Gristle]

10 hours ago, Celedhring said:

LOL...was just hit with "Dibellian Whore of Markarth" while in the middle of performing my PC's "Public Whore" duties in Markarth.  XD

And atop it all, she was arrested and made Public Whore in Markarth while bringing in donations to the Temple of Dibella from her work as a Dibellian novice.  Being accosted as the Public Whore also triggered a "crowd queue" in a very busy intersection in Markarth near the keep.  

It was very crowded..the bed hid part of the crowd... My PC has daedric abuse markings from Apropos 2 as she was the pet of a daedra for a while.  It's very difficult to get rid of those markings....ugggh. 

How's that for comedy? 

 

Nice and thematic! Let me know what you think of the Dibellan Whore quest.

[AxeMEMES]

9 hours ago, Gristle said:

There's no MCM setting for PC gender. The comments just use the standard Male/Female dialogue conditions. I might have set a condition or two wrong somewhere, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the M/F conditions are correct. Are you never getting male-appropriate responses for your male PC?

huh, I am going to try making a new game and see if maybe something with the mid-game install borked something, while I am working on that,
I've got a suggestion for ya just my input, it might be a good idea to add some kind of mcm setting for that for debug reasons and for people who might be using custom races that don't use the standard dialogue conditions, and or anyone using FUTA or other gender swapping mods. I noticed with my character that is female-male mix she only got female responses.


Edit: I got it working for male PC just had to save the game, redeploy the mods and then load back in and I started getting correct responses for my Male PC
so all good, i'd still suggest adding a mcm toggle for debug and gender swapping reasons just my input overall good mod, 🤙

Edited May 3, 2024 by AxeMEMES

[Celedhring]

On 5/2/2024 at 6:17 PM, Gristle said:

Nice and thematic! Let me know what you think of the Dibellan Whore quest.

Amusing so far.  Captain Rogan told my PC she needs to stay naked while HE gets to dress....and travel back to Markarth.  

She's probably muttering "hypocrite" under her breath...the real problem is going almost all the way across Skyrim naked from that camp to Markarth...even if she has Vilja with her too along with Rogan.  

What a bastard. 

UPDATE:  Made it to Markarth.   I just had Vilja and Rogan tank for for my PC while she used the bow. 

Edited May 5, 2024 by Celedhring

[blackoperations]

It's been a while since I used SLSF and SLSF comments, and I went to start it up again with the new release of comments.   I set up the configuration and randomized the NPC fame.  However, for some hidden reason, no PC fame appears in the framework, making it impossible to use comments correctly.

 

Are there any common reasons for the framework not to work? Is it incompatible with SLSO, SLAC, Baka's mods, ASL, or SLATE? I've searched but can't find a fix to kick it into action.

Edited May 7, 2024 by blackoperations

[Bigglsby]

3 hours ago, blackoperations said:

It's been a while since I used SLSF and SLSF comments, and I went to start it up again with the new release of comments.   I set up the configuration and randomized the NPC fame.  However, for some hidden reason, no PC fame appears in the framework, making it impossible to use comments correctly.

 

Are there any common reasons for the framework not to work? Is it incompatible with SLSO, SLAC, Baka's mods, ASL, or SLATE? I've searched but can't find a fix to kick it into action.

 

The mods in question all work together, from experience.  If it seems like your fame just isn't budging, that isn't an uncommon problem.  There was a mod made that really helps fame accrue as it should without stalling, helps my setup anyway.  Once fame is building, you should get your comments appropriately.

 

 

[blackoperations]

7 hours ago, Bigglsby said:

 

The mods in question all work together, from experience.  If it seems like your fame just isn't budging, that isn't an uncommon problem.  There was a mod made that really helps fame accrue as it should without stalling, helps my setup anyway.  Once fame is building, you should get your comments appropriately.

 

 

Thanks so much!  I also found a way to adjust it by spell.  Hopefully, between the two this work.  


Also: the update to this mod is fantastic.  There are lots of cool easter eggs showing up.

Edited May 7, 2024 by blackoperations

[Agnot]

I absolutelly love this mod!!!!!

Question from a total ignorant about programing: Is there any chance to make it react to Ostim Standalone?

[Gristle]

3 hours ago, Agnot said:

I absolutelly love this mod!!!!!

Question from a total ignorant about programing: Is there any chance to make it react to Ostim Standalone?

Glad you like it! As for supporting another sex framework, I don't think so. This mod is mostly relying on the underlying SLSF mod to detect (Sexlab) sex events, bondage gear, (Sexlab) cum, nudity, tattoos, etc. and to track all relevant fame types. And the author of the SLSF mod hasn't logged on in a few years. So, someone would have to come up with a new fame framework. There is another (Sexlab) fame framework being built - Gossip (https://www.loverslab.com/topic/175099-gossip-a-fame-framework/#comment-3492990). That might be the best place to make such a request.

 

[Agnot]

16 hours ago, Gristle said:

Glad you like it! As for supporting another sex framework, I don't think so. This mod is mostly relying on the underlying SLSF mod to detect (Sexlab) sex events, bondage gear, (Sexlab) cum, nudity, tattoos, etc. and to track all relevant fame types. And the author of the SLSF mod hasn't logged on in a few years. So, someone would have to come up with a new fame framework. There is another (Sexlab) fame framework being built - Gossip (https://www.loverslab.com/topic/175099-gossip-a-fame-framework/#comment-3492990). That might be the best place to make such a request.

 

thanks, for your kind answer. Yeah, I saw that mod, but it doesnt trigers my beloved SLSF Comments!

Regards!

Edited May 8, 2024 by Agnot

[Kijo28]

 

Hello . I need help with the quest with Rogen .... the campfire is shown to me and tells me I can go there, but I can't interact with it, all the people there don't help me any further ... do I have to free Derkeethus?

[Gristle]

1 hour ago, Kijo28 said:

Hello . I need help with the quest with Rogen .... the campfire is shown to me and tells me I can go there, but I can't interact with it, all the people there don't help me any further ... do I have to free Derkeethus?

No, you don't have to free Derkeethus. If the quest marker is on the campfire you need to speak with Annekke next. (No QM on her, but talking to others in Darkwater should let you know to talk to Hrefna, and talking to Hrefna should let you know to talk to Annekke.)  But.. Annekke and Hrefna are in the mine a lot during the day, so you might have to go into the mine or wait until mealtimes to find them around the campfire.

[Ryo95]

Hi, the marriage update does not seem to work at all for me. My character is already married (through the regular quest in Temple of Mara), but I have zero dialog option relative to marriage stuff, with her spouse, follower or NPC. I tried to buy a wedding ring, but I can't find any priest that sells any? I tried equipping some wedding rings through the Additem menu but they also don't work. Any idea? 

[unwashed biomass]

After updating mod (before i unmarried Lydia and unchecked marriage mechanics because marriage quest was troublesome). Now there is no SLSF marriage dialouge at all. Didn't check new game thou.

[Kijo28]

12 hours ago, Gristle said:

No, you don't have to free Derkeethus. If the quest marker is on the campfire you need to speak with Annekke next. (No QM on her, but talking to others in Darkwater should let you know to talk to Hrefna, and talking to Hrefna should let you know to talk to Annekke.)  But.. Annekke and Hrefna are in the mine a lot during the day, so you might have to go into the mine or wait until mealtimes to find them around the campfire.

Thanks, that gets me going. I gave the ax to roe on the console and then got to Solitude with Vici, but since the campfire marker was still there, it didn't show me how to find the temple in Solitude

[Gristle]

9 hours ago, Ryo95 said:

Hi, the marriage update does not seem to work at all for me. My character is already married (through the regular quest in Temple of Mara), but I have zero dialog option relative to marriage stuff, with her spouse, follower or NPC. I tried to buy a wedding ring, but I can't find any priest that sells any? I tried equipping some wedding rings through the Additem menu but they also don't work. Any idea? 

I'm not sure. It's working for me. In the 3.61 update, I limited all marriage functions (including initial marriage dialogue) to populated areas -- so that they don't interfere with any gameplay in wilderness and dungeon areas. Are you in a town? I just posted a 3.62 update that expands the list of populated areas. Perhaps that will solve the issue? As for the ring, yes, it's just the standard Bond of Matrimony ring, although you will need two of them. All priests should sell them, though you will need 500 gold.

[Gristle]

7 hours ago, unwashed biomass said:

After updating mod (before i unmarried Lydia and unchecked marriage mechanics because marriage quest was troublesome). Now there is no SLSF marriage dialouge at all. Didn't check new game thou.

In the 3.61 update, I limited all marriage functions (including initial marriage dialogue) to populated areas -- so that they don't interfere with any gameplay in wilderness and dungeon areas. Are you in a town? I just posted a 3.62 update that expands the list of populated areas. Is this the issue?

 

Also, what was troublesome about the marriage quest? Assuming the above solves the initial problem, please let me know if you run into any other problems.

[Gristle]

6 hours ago, Kijo28 said:

Thanks, that gets me going. I gave the ax to roe on the console and then got to Solitude with Vici, but since the campfire marker was still there, it didn't show me how to find the temple in Solitude

If you got to Solitude with Lillian Vici then the quest stages are progressing correctly. However, the stage where you actually are searching for the temple in Solitude does not have a quest marker. That stage is intended to make the PC (and Lilly) search the city, and a quest marker on the temple door would spoil the search. Anyway, there is a visible temple door in an exterior space, and even a pop-up message box when you get near it, so it shouldn't be too hard to find.

[51offthescale]

Marriage dialogue doesn't appear for me on 3.62 on a new save. I've tried marrying a follower and non-follower outside of town, inside of town and inside an inn and there was no marriage dialogue. I also didn't get the ring purchasing dialogue from priests either.

[Gristle]

53 minutes ago, 51offthescale said:

Marriage dialogue doesn't appear for me on 3.62 on a new save. I've tried marrying a follower and non-follower outside of town, inside of town and inside an inn and there was no marriage dialogue. I also didn't get the ring purchasing dialogue from priests either.

I'm having trouble locating the issue. It's working fine for me. Can you reinstall version 3.6 and see if that still works OK?

[51offthescale]

1 hour ago, Gristle said:

I'm having trouble locating the issue. It's working fine for me. Can you reinstall version 3.6 and see if that still works OK?

 

I can get 3.6 working again if I remove 3.62, clean the save, then install 3.6.