Skeleton Problem

[Sneaksmile]

I don't really know if it's a skeleton problem, but I don't know how to call it. As seen in the screenshots, when my character runs, a triangle, sometimes black or sometimes brown, appears there. Only when she runs, and at the same time her stomach twists while she runs. Has that happened to someone else?

Thanks if someone helps me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Andy14]

Which skeleton did you install last?
It can be a skeletal problem. However, it is also possible that the skin (bone weight) for belly is imprecise and too much (especially in connection with hdt pe / smp).

[Sneaksmile]

3 hours ago, Andy14 said:

Which skeleton did you install last?
It can be a skeletal problem. However, it is also possible that the skin (bone weight) for belly is imprecise and too much (especially in connection with hdt pe / smp).

Skeleton 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68000 

Skin 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51602

Oiled skin

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70834
 

When installing the oiled skin mod I did not choose any file that would change the original skin in any way or other optional files. I just chose the files needed for the oil effect. And my skeleton remains the same, I can check that with FNIS. 

[Grey Cloud]

I had a similar problem way back and the solution I was given was to lower the bounce and jiggle - basically change the xml file.

What mod do you use for your bounce and jiggle? I can't remember which mod I was using at the time but it came with different files for different amounts of b and j. I just dropped it down to the next lowest.

[Andy14]

5 hours ago, Sneaksmile said:

Skeleton 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68000 

Skin 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51602

Oiled skin

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70834
 

When installing the oiled skin mod I did not choose any file that would change the original skin in any way or other optional files. I just chose the files needed for the oil effect. And my skeleton remains the same, I can check that with FNIS. 

By skin, I didn't mean the skin texture, but the skin of the mesh, i.e. the bone weights.
If the Belky Bone is skinned too much or a hdt pe / smp is used for a much weaker skin then these deformations happen. However, since the thighs are also affected, it is not only the cause of hdt pe / smp xml - it is a really bad skin. The Belly Bone should never affect the thighs - no matter which xml is used.

[Sneaksmile]

15 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

I had a similar problem way back and the solution I was given was to lower the bounce and jiggle - basically change the xml file.

 

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What mod do you use for your bounce and jiggle? I can't remember which mod I was using at the time but it came with different files for different amounts of b and j. I just dropped it down to the next lowest.

Hmmm ... I don't remember modifying any of that. I have not installed any mod for that. I just use this because it is required by other mods:


https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53996?tab=description


 And I chose the UUNP HDT body on BodySlide. 

[Sneaksmile]

14 hours ago, Andy14 said:

By skin, I didn't mean the skin texture, but the skin of the mesh, i.e. the bone weights.
If the Belky Bone is skinned too much or a hdt pe / smp is used for a much weaker skin then these deformations happen. However, since the thighs are also affected, it is not only the cause of hdt pe / smp xml - it is a really bad skin. The Belly Bone should never affect the thighs - no matter which xml is used.

Thanks for the info. But HOW IS IT SOLVED?
 

[Grey Cloud]

44 minutes ago, Sneaksmile said:

I have not installed any mod for that.

There's a few out there. All in One Animated Pussy (AiO AP) is a popular one (it works but the mod does too much which I don't need). There's one I can't remember the name of but is overly-complicated to my mind (on Nexus). I use Bazinga's Naturalistic which is simple and effective (it's here on LL).

 

Have a look in your Data\SKSE\Plugins folder. I can't remember all of the files involved but I have:

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml and hdtVagina.xml

 

@Andy14 will probably know more than me.

 

I suppose the obvious questions are:

Do the breast and butts of your females bounce and jiggle and does the vagina dilate during sex?

[Andy14]

If you use the original hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml from HydrogensaysHDT, it's actually okay.
It really looks like a bone vs. skeleton problem.
If you haven't already done so, install XPMSE Skeleton.

 

PS: The log from HDT PE (hdtPhysicsExtensions.log) is in Data\SKSE\Plugins. Have a look there if there is any error or post the content here.

[Sneaksmile]

3 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

There's a few out there. All in One Animated Pussy (AiO AP) is a popular one (it works but the mod does too much which I don't need). There's one I can't remember the name of but is overly-complicated to my mind (on Nexus). I use Bazinga's Naturalistic which is simple and effective (it's here on LL).

 

Have a look in your Data\SKSE\Plugins folder. I can't remember all of the files involved but I have:

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml and hdtVagina.xml

 

@Andy14 will probably know more than me.

 

I suppose the obvious questions are:

Do the breast and butts of your females bounce and jiggle and does the vagina dilate during sex?

- Nope. I don't have any of those mods installed.

- Okay. I will check that. 

- Breast and butt yep, they bounce and jiggle. But the vagina is static. 

[Sneaksmile]

1 hour ago, Andy14 said:

If you use the original hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml from HydrogensaysHDT, it's actually okay.
It really looks like a bone vs. skeleton problem.
If you haven't already done so, install XPMSE Skeleton.

 

PS: The log from HDT PE (hdtPhysicsExtensions.log) is in Data\SKSE\Plugins. Have a look there if there is any error or post the content here.

That is the skeleton that I use from the beginning.

Okay. I will check that. 

[Tlam99]

not sure if this works for LE

Works fine for SE

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/24313

 

[Alessia Wellington]

20 minutes ago, T-lam said:

not sure if this works for LE

 

Of course it wont work with LE, 'cause it was made exclusively for SE as an alternative to SMP body physics.

[Sneaksmile]

18 hours ago, T-lam said:

not sure if this works for LE

Works fine for SE

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/24313

 

SE ... this is a section for LE ... Isn't there something similar for LE?

[Tlam99]

Just now, Sneaksmile said:

SE ... this is a section for LE ... Isn't there something similar for LE?

I don't know, the reason I posted it, evt. there is one, but I am not familiar with LE mods.

[Sneaksmile]

23 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

There's a few out there. All in One Animated Pussy (AiO AP) is a popular one (it works but the mod does too much which I don't need). There's one I can't remember the name of but is overly-complicated to my mind (on Nexus). I use Bazinga's Naturalistic which is simple and effective (it's here on LL).

 

Have a look in your Data\SKSE\Plugins folder. I can't remember all of the files involved but I have:

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml and hdtVagina.xml

 

@Andy14 will probably know more than me.

 

I suppose the obvious questions are:

Do the breast and butts of your females bounce and jiggle and does the vagina dilate during sex?

This is what I have in that folder ... 
 

I have the ''htdVagina.xml'' file, but my character's vagina doesn't move.

 

 

 

 

 

[Sneaksmile]

5 minutes ago, T-lam said:

I don't know, the reason I posted it, evt. there is one, but I am not familiar with LE mods.

 

Thanks anyway.

 

 

[Sneaksmile]

22 hours ago, Andy14 said:

If you use the original hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml from HydrogensaysHDT, it's actually okay.
It really looks like a bone vs. skeleton problem.
If you haven't already done so, install XPMSE Skeleton.

 

PS: The log from HDT PE (hdtPhysicsExtensions.log) is in Data\SKSE\Plugins. Have a look there if there is any error or post the content here.

OMG! The log it is filled with an error of belly. In the player and in NPCs. 

 

[Sneaksmile]

22 hours ago, Andy14 said:

If you use the original hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml from HydrogensaysHDT, it's actually okay.
It really looks like a bone vs. skeleton problem.
If you haven't already done so, install XPMSE Skeleton.

 

PS: The log from HDT PE (hdtPhysicsExtensions.log) is in Data\SKSE\Plugins. Have a look there if there is any error or post the content here.

 

What do I do now?
 

Better I upload the log. Here it is:

 

hdtPhysicsExtensions.rar

[Grey Cloud]

Luna_GoV wouldn't be a SE mod would it? Ignore that, it was just me being an idiot.

 

Unrelated but what is the outfit the gel with the dwemer shield is wearing?

[Andy14]

8 hours ago, Sneaksmile said:

 

What do I do now?
 

Better I upload the log. Here it is:

 

hdtPhysicsExtensions.rar 13.48 kB · 1 download

No NPC Belly Bone is found in your skeleton.
Reinstall XPMSE - with the correct options.

[Sneaksmile]

14 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Luna_GoV wouldn't be a SE mod would it? Ignore that, it was just me being an idiot.

 

Unrelated but what is the outfit the gel with the dwemer shield is wearing?

 

It is a 'skin' of Excella Gionne. A character from RE5. If I remove the skin, there is only a random NPC character underneath. 

 

 

This is the Mod in case someone wants to use it:

RE5 Excella Gionne Follower [Skin].rar

 

[Sneaksmile]

7 hours ago, Andy14 said:

No NPC Belly Bone is found in your skeleton.
Reinstall XPMSE - with the correct options.

Which are the correct options? There is only one file to download on that page. It's not that I chose: '' no belly please ''.