smac Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 I've just made the switch from vortex to MO2 and I've been having loads of problems so decided to bite the bullet and ask for help. I get CTD every time I open the map. I'm trying to sort out the mod priorities in the left pane, sometimes I seem to have luck then it crashes when I open the map. I've disabled most of my mods to try and narrow down the problem. From what I've read I'm supposed to order the left panel similarly to the right, with the animations and skeleton at the bottom. But I just can't seem to get the hang of it. Without any mods loaded the problem seems to go away so I'm assuming it's something to do with my load order. I've attached an image of the mods I've enabled currently to test it out. It seems to be something to do with sexlab or the physics extensions. Putting the animations at the bottom helped but now it's crashing again. Sorry if it's a real noob question but I'm having an absolute bastard of a time with the MO2 learning curve. This is my full modlist in LOOTs load order, copied from the profiles folder: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm BSAssets.esm BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp AzarHair.esm ApachiiHair.esm SexLab.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp BSHeartland - Meshes.esp BSHeartland - Textures.esp FNIS.esp FNIS_PCEA2.esp FNISSexyMove.esp SkyUI.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SexLabMiscellaneousFeatures.esp Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp dovahkiinrelax.esp FemaleNakedComments.esp Lore Weapon Expansion.esp Merta Assassin Armor.esp Vivid Weathers.esp Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Oblivious Horses.esp SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp NPCs Protected Redux.esp RSChildren.esp NonEssentialChildren.esp People Have Torches.esp PIVariety.esp RASS - Visual Effects.esp Real Feeding V3.esp Really Radiant Raiment.esp Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp The Dance of Death.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp VOBS.esp WetFunction.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp NoRoadPredators.esp SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp Inigo.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp FollowerWander2.esp FollowerWander2Serana.esp Bloody Cannibalism.esp Run For Your Lives.esp SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp iNeed.esp FNISspells.esp vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp Follow me for Sex.esp CampingKitNorthernRanger.esp FireBurns.esp ContinueGameNoCrash.esp DemonHunterArmor.esp RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp
Mr. Otaku Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 I'm not an expert by any means but if opening the map is what's causing the problem, then i'd focus on the mods that might be having an effect on the map specifically. I'd also put FNIS really high up on the left window just to make sure nothing that is supposed to go after it is coming before instead. Run LOOT just to be sure. Here's what you can do afterwards, disable all the mods which you said makes the problem go away. So enable five at a time from the top and check if the crash is occurring. Do it until you get a crash and then focus on the last batch you enabled to narrow it down from there. It's a bit tedious but virtually foolproof. Good luck.
Psalam Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 @Mr.Otaku has the right of it. CTD in the same location or doing the same thing is almost always a bad mesh/texture added by a mod.
smac Posted August 12, 2020 Author Posted August 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mr.Otaku said: I'm not an expert by any means but if opening the map is what's causing the problem, then i'd focus on the mods that might be having an effect on the map specifically. I'd also put FNIS really high up on the left window just to make sure nothing that is supposed to go after it is coming before instead. Run LOOT just to be sure. Here's what you can do afterwards, disable all the mods which you said makes the problem go away. So enable five at a time from the top and check if the crash is occurring. Do it until you get a crash and then focus on the last batch you enabled to narrow it down from there. It's a bit tedious but virtually foolproof. Good luck. Thanks for the reply. I'm trying that now. I'll post results once I make it crash again. If this game wasn't so damn good with heavy modding...
Psalam Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, smac said: If this game wasn't so damn good with heavy modding... Welcome to our world ... ?
smac Posted August 12, 2020 Author Posted August 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Psalam said: Welcome to our world ... ? I've been doing it for a while, I think I must have got by on luck rather than judgement with Vortex. Still not crashing as of yet... it'll be kind of annoying if I accidentally fix it without discovering the cause.
Psalam Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, smac said: I've been doing it for a while, I think I must have got by on luck rather than judgement with Vortex. Still not crashing as of yet... it'll be kind of annoying if I accidentally fix it without discovering the cause. If it happens just say a prayer of gratitude. Skyrim, being Skyrim, is known to do that sort of thing (have a problem just appear or disappear without a reason or a thing changing - at least, that you are aware of).
smac Posted August 12, 2020 Author Posted August 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Psalam said: If it happens just say a prayer of gratitude. Skyrim, being Skyrim, is known to do that sort of thing (have a problem just appear or disappear without a reason or a thing changing - at least, that you are aware of). I'm glad you all know the frustration. It looks like it's "Skyrim Distance Overhaul" so far. I've had two CTDs with it enabled, and once it was fine. It's weird since I've been using that for a while now. It's happened a while after the switch to MO2... I can live without that one. If I leave that off and enable more without problems that'll be it. Edit: Nope it's still happening so something else must be contributing as well. Edit 2: Seems to be working OK now. It was 3 things: "Skyrim Distance Overhaul", "A Matter of Time" and now having the skeleton and animations at the bottom as far as I can tell.
Grey Cloud Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 21 hours ago, smac said: I get CTD every time I open the map. How are you opening the map? Do you have any mods which change the map? 19 hours ago, smac said: Edit 2: Seems to be working OK now. It was 3 things: "Skyrim Distance Overhaul", "A Matter of Time" and now having the skeleton and animations at the bottom as far as I can tell. That's one thing: user error. SDO is a mod which was in Beta in 2014 and has not been touched since. AMoT is a great mod which lots of people, including myself, use without any problems. I let LOOT put XPMSE and the animation packs where it wants and never have problems. I use Vortex. If you don't know what you are doing then things like mod mangers will not save you. As has already been said, get the base game stable and then add mods a few at a time. You will need these: Crash fixeshttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/ SKSE Plugin Preloaderhttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/? ENBoost (If you are using an ENB preset then you should already have this but it can be used without a preset).https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost Bethini (This will set your Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini files)https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69787 Load Game CTD Fix (Stops Infinite Loading Screen (ILS)https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/ The above tools will sort out your memory management and stop 99% of CTDs. Have a read of this: https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/
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