LongDukDong Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 41 minutes ago, dwharper34 said: "I HAVE NO GREETING" Oh for pity *@%^ sake, the dreaded No Greeting issue. That happens when the NPC is supposed to have a specific quest related greeting and it doesn't exit. This from issues between plugins (like if certain values don't get triggered when crossing between Tamriel and the Shivering isles), or if a greeting is meant for a specific race (not having the right Chocolate Elf mod installed when running Bravil Underground). Greeting is precarious. And who the hell is Fergus? Waaait. Is he an NPC from Sexvilion that you turned off or something? He shouldn't even EXIST then! That would do it. 41 minutes ago, dwharper34 said: Do you think I should start a new game now? Um, yeah. Honestly, when you change mods to this extent... that's kinda important. Some mods have features that let you 'reset and erase data' prior to uninstall. But if not, a new game is necessary.
dwharper34 Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 Fergus was going to be a stallion for my multiple female companions, including Vilja who it turns out is his sister. I just installed Fergus recently and he's not affiliated with Sexlivion, but all of the CM Female Companions had Sexlivion tags. This caused Sexlivion to be added as Master to each of their ESP files, which I had to remove to be able to uninstall Sexlivion. I had Sexlivion along with the females and almost everything else installed about five years ago. I just added LAPF and I really like it. Do you think restarting the game would help the No Greeting issue? Is there a script that can be stopped to end the animations as a work around? Your help is sure appreciated!
LongDukDong Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 Whenever there is a serious change... mainly the removal of mods used in-game (like Werewolf: The Awakening, Tamago/Hiyoko, Sexlivion)... the in-game data may change dramatically, there would be a very high chance of a fresh game being required. The only savegames I keep around are those without said dependencies like my "Angelina - Argonoid", "Camilla - Carrier" (seen in TamagoHiyoko recently), all without any outside content but their own personal requirements. In another folder, I have a 'Data' folder that only has Oblivion, Shivering Isles, and a few others PRIOR to installation of LAPF. It has a Mod Order file so I can quickly reinstall Oblivion fresh the way I like it by erasing my current Data folder and drag/drop/copy this in in place. It's a cheat.... but a good cheat. Always follow the Mod Order!!!!!! As for the No Greeting issue, I take it that Fergus is the one with the problem. and he may have some dependency. I had installed mods that were CM dependent. While removing said dependencies, I had issues with them with No Greetings too... more work on THEM was required as it was not the fault of Oblivion. I was just how they were made. Default greetings are typically quest dependent, and are also keyed to the speaker's race. The list of gneric GREETINGS within Oblivion will have greetings for Argonians, Bretons, Imperials, and so on. Create a new race (for example), and not include a greeting... and *boom*. But make a brand new race and set up the race's speech to use Imperial dialog, and that would 'normally' fix the greet. I say normally, but nothing is perfect,..... As to the animation freeze... I am at a loss, except to wonder if it was because you are attempting to use it with a savegame that was made while you had Sexlivion and/or incompatible NPCs that may have NoGreetings issues (such as above).
dwharper34 Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 OK Today I am in the newest game, with no save games from any earlier installation. Earlier today, I had the setting set to 1 (Jump Key, Automatic if being raped). I changed the duration for masturbate from 9999 seconds to 30 seconds. I found that masturbate with the original and with the new settings never ended. I also found that using the sleep sex spell was not stepping through stages and also was not ending. So I switched the setting to Automatic. (Default) 0 (Automatic). I didn't know how long I had before the setting was turned back off, so I tried the Sleep Sex again and this time it worked normally. I tried it several more times and they all worked fine. With automatic still on, I was able to have sex with three partners, each several times. I had no trouble for about an hour when Fergus had the no greeting error. I had to go back to an earlier save. I have had several other characters with the no greeting error too, just not today. It was several minutes after this when the patch switched the progessoin settings back to 1 (Jump Key, Automatic if being raped). After that I had all of the problems I complained about earlier! I also had a bad position that in the console had one line for the animation, with motions from earlier animations above: "Lovers: 16_Motion Ready." Also what is causing their bright faces? The problem for me is not being able to use the Automatic mode. Why can't I leave it on? That was what was working for me before and I don't think I even tried the other modes. The other modes are great for alignments, but not for finishing the cum stages and ending the animation. Please help me resolve this! Thanks again for your help! Load Order: GameMode=Oblivion Oblivion.esm=1 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm=1 All Natural Base.esm=1 Cobl Main.esm=1 DIM Elves Of Lineage II Retex.esm=1 CM Partners.esm=1 DKImperials.esm=1 Lovers with PK.esm=1 LoversCreature.esm=1 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp=1 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp=1 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp=0 DLCShiveringIsles.esp=1 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp=1 All Natural.esp=1 All Natural - SI.esp=1 All Natural - Real Lights.esp=1 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp=1 AliveWaters.esp=1 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp=1 CharGenAmulet.esp=1 FOV Modifier.esp=1 More Effective Enchantments.esp=1 See You Sleep DLL.esp=1 Tail-Slot Equipment Helper.esp=1 CleanQuitAlternative.esp=1 Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp=0 OblivionReloaded.esp=1 Map Marker Overhaul.esp=1 DLCHorseArmor.esp=1 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 DLCOrrery.esp=1 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 DLCVileLair.esp=1 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 See You Sleep DLL - DLCVileLair.esp=1 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp=1 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 DLCSpellTomes.esp=1 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp=0 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp=0 superSP_fatigue_restore_ring.esp=1 DLCThievesDen.esp=1 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 Cobl Glue.esp=1 Cobl Si.esp=1 Creature Diversity.esp=1 ImperialCityHouse.esp=1 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp=1 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 DLCFrostcrag.esp=1 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 Emporium.esp=0 Knights.esp=1 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp=0 Unlimited Rings 2.0 -auto.esp=1 Bag of Holding.esp=1 Automagic Bags.esp=1 No persistant enchantment glow fix-1843.esp=0 Cobl Races.esp=1 DKImperials.esp=1 Elves Of Lineage II.esp=1 IDKRRR_C_race.esp=1 Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp=1 Night Elf - by ssj4goku111.esp=1 No psychic guards v1.2.esp=1 Imperishable Varla Stones.esp=1 NoEncumberance.esp=0 Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp=1 Clearer Underwater.esp=0 SeductiveIdles.esp=1 _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp=1 IDKRRR_KFME4rev.esp=1 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp=1 SupremeMagickaLite.esp=1 EyelashesVannilaRaces.esp=0 DAValeriaCuteElf.esp=1 Nec-Character_Sonnet_Mature.esp=1 CM Partners.esp=1 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp=1 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp=1 CM Partner Lola.esp=1 CM Partner Feria.esp=1 CM Partner Xenia.esp=1 CM Partner Isabelle High Imperial v1-0-34543.esp=1 CM Partner Caitlyn v1.esp=1 CM Partner Sah v1.esp=1 CM Partner Jada.esp=1 CompanionFergus.esp=1 Ace's Items.esp=1 1em_Vilja.esp=1 Cute Elf Companions - Feminine Walk & Run.esp=0 Ace's Companions.esp=0 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp=1 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp=1 LoversBed.esp=1 LoversPayBandit.esp=1 Lovers with PK.esp=1 LoversCreature.esp=1 Lovers with PK Extender.esp=1 LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp=1 LoversRapeSlave.esp=1 LoversBackup2.esp=1 LAPF_Ex_Patch.esp=1 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp=0 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp=0 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp=0 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp=0 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp=1 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp=0 Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 LoversMB2.esp=1 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp=1 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp=1 Lovers3dorgasm.esp=1 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp=1 Mod List: ACTIVE [Name] Qarls Texture Pack III for NMM-44772-1-3 ACTIVE [Name] EngineBugFixes v2.22 ACTIVE [Name] FOV Modifier v2_0-23080 ACTIVE [Name] Clean Quit Alternative-21416 ACTIVE [Name] Mystic Emporium Fix 1.1-43825-1-1 ACTIVE [Name] No persistant enchantment glow fix-1843 ACTIVE [Name] Oblivion 1_2_416 English-11364 ACTIVE [Name] Oblivion Shivering Isles 1_2_416 English-11364 ACTIVE [Name] Map Marker Overhaul 3_9_3-26389 ACTIVE [Name] Weather - All Natural v1-36-18305-1-36 ACTIVE [Name] Enhanced Water v2.0 HD ACTIVE [Name] Alive Waters Updated v0.9-44069-0-9 ACTIVE [Name] Clearer Underwater v17411 ACTIVE [Name] fantasmagoria flora v4.0 ACTIVE [Name] Corean Mod v1.8 ACTIVE [Name] CoreanHair v1.8 ACTIVE [Name] Corean egmFiles v1.8 ACTIVE [Name] DK High Imperials Updated-33044 ACTIVE [Name] Elves of Lineage II v1.0 ACTIVE [Name] kfmev4rev-25996 ACTIVE [Name] Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake v1 ACTIVE [Name] Night Elf Race by ssj4goku111-7324 ACTIVE [Name] Xenius HGEC HR Night Elf Texture Replacer-28358 ACTIVE [Name] MenuQue v16b ACTIVE [Name] Cobl v174 ACTIVE [Name] Grin Fix REQUIRES 1_2 Update-33044 ACTIVE [Name] Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover ACTIVE [Name] Imperishable Varla Stones-27441 ACTIVE [Name] More Effective Enchantments v22 ACTIVE [Name] No Encumbrance-45853-1-0 ACTIVE [Name] No psychic guards v1.2 ACTIVE [Name] Tail-Slot Equipment Helper v1.4 ACTIVE [Name] Your Imperial City House Mod-2814 ACTIVE [Name] Creature Diversity 1.14-26634-1-14 ACTIVE [Name] Creature Diversity 1.14b UPDATE-26634-1-14b ACTIVE [Name] MaleBodyReplacerV52-40532 ACTIVE [Name] MaleOutfitReplacerV52-40532 ACTIVE [Name] HG EyeCandy Body Fighter Nude LL-lower D-upper BBB ACTIVE [Name] Character Generator Amulet v2072 ACTIVE [Name] SUPERSP-28730 ACTIVE [Name] Unlimited Amulets v1.0 ACTIVE [Name] Unlimited Rings 2.0 -auto.esp ACTIVE [Name] Lineage elves texture updated-20432 ACTIVE [Name] Ren_BeautyPack_v1_1_addrace ACTIVE [Name] Ren_BeautyPack_v1_1_onlyhairs ACTIVE [Name] White Teeth All-18589 ACTIVE [Name] Working Eyelashes-18185 ACTIVE [Name] Corean Hairs for Elves of Lineage II-15701 ACTIVE [Name] OBSE -Elys- Universal Silent Voice v93 ACTIVE [Name] Unofficial Oblivion DLC Patches v9969-24 ACTIVE [Name] Automagic Bags v4.03 ACTIVE [Name] Bag of Holding v4065 ACTIVE [Name] Supreme Magicka v1.5 ACTIVE [Name] See You Sleep DLL v1 ACTIVE [Name] 5 Cute Elves ver 1 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Caitlyn v1 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Feria v1-Final-15150 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Isabelle High Imperial v1-0-34543 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Jada v1 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Lola v20474 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Sah v1 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Xenia-23356 ACTIVE [Name] Nec Character Sonnet Mature-16329 ACTIVE [Name] Ace's Companions ACTIVE [Name] CompanionFergus v2-1 ACTIVE [Name] MBP Plus Plus v098a Full ACTIVE [Name] Cute Elves Companions Feminine Walk and Run-49600-1-0-1567024729 ACTIVE [Name] CompanionVilja v4_04-28977-4-04 ACTIVE [Name] Seductive Idles v1.1 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partners v2-7819 ACTIVE [Name] LAPF - version 1.6a1 ACTIVE [Name] LAPF Supplemental Plugin Pack v1 ACTIVE [Name] Lovers with PK Extender ACTIVE [Name] LAPF Extended Patch ACTIVE [Name] ExtraAPAnimationsNeeded ACTIVE [Name] Lovers Adult Play Plus for SSP v1.11 ACTIVE [Name] LoversVoiceSSPplus v1.19 ACTIVE [Name] Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch-10739-1-5-9 ACTIVE [Name] Unofficial Oblivion Patch-5296-3-5-6b-1589151835 ACTIVE [Name] Pluggy Dev v132 ACTIVE [Name] Oblivion Reloaded v6-2-0 ACTIVE [Name] Blockhead v10.3 ACTIVE [Name] LoversCreatures v2.5.11 ACTIVE [Name] 3dOrgasm ACTIVE [Name] Ace's Items
LongDukDong Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 You neglected to notice that the Mod Order list was like this: LOVERS STUFF..... . . . . . . (Pose and Animation Mods) 77_Umpa_Animation.esp 19482 Chain it!.esp 19488 zzEstrus.esp 19522 Woman's Move.esp 19524 ------------------------------------------- (Race , companion, MBP Mods) Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp (or Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp) 20091 Shrridan.esp 20153 Luchaire's Dryad Race.esp 20202 Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp 20215 . . . Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 19900 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseA00 Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp . . . . . . ....... Near the end of the mod order list is the Beautiful People mods... but it is here past most Lovers mods that you put Race and Companion mods. This includes the Cutthroat Mods characters. So yes, and this is just from a cursory glance, there is more sorting necessary. You actually have Lovers3dorgasm ????
dwharper34 Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 I have been using this for the load order: I think I have followed the load order pretty close from this! Where should I be looking instead?
dwharper34 Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 I don't like complaining, but all of the mod pages with load orders seem to be different. Almost everyone of them have no links, some links are out-dated with no link to the correct version, the links no longer exist or take you to a multi-paged document on the wrong page. Finding the correct download has been almost impossible! Titles with Outdated on them without correct links in them, etc... And almost every mod has its own support page and from mod to mod and they sometimes give different load orders and advice. I have not been tracking any of this, but I can't be the only one finding these problems. Its been very confusing to me. I have rarely dealt with such a great problems with load order. It is Oblivion I guess. Loverslab.com has been making different directories associated to Lovers with PK such as Oblivion Adult Mods, Dialog Sex, Lovers PK Modpack-Almost Every mod..., and of course Lovers with PK. I think this is the right direction, but doesn't say which is compatible with each other. Very difficult for most of us to figure out. Checking all of the links must be quite the undertaking. All of the current mod authors with mods to be included within Lovers should update the "Lovers with PK" page including the correct updated load order with updated links to their mods. That would mean all authors would have to agree to it. The installation directions would refer back to this page for the correct load order not an example. If this would be updated by everyone every week or so, you probably wouldn't have many problems at all. I know I just want to play the game. Sorry if I stepped on any toes! All of you are exceptional at these animations and most have been a great help! I want to thank you! So where is the most current correct Load Order?
LongDukDong Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 The load order on that page is the one I have used. I admit that it is over 6 years old and new mods such as some I have created are not on the list, but the structure is quite fine. I have directed others to this list when they had issues with Oblivion and many had since had their problems solved after using this to sort. Below is the load order from the page I have been recommending which I wholly endorse and use. On 9/5/2014 at 6:29 PM, fejeena said: The numbers behind the esm/esp are the notepad++ Line numbers of the 20 Dec 2014 BOSS masterlist.txt number in ( ) is "wrong" sorted by BOSS clean it: esm/esp should be cleaned with Tes4Edit ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oblivion.esm 48 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 92 x117race.esm (308) Better Cities Resources.esm 202 BreakUndies.esm ! outdated, use BreakArmor ! ----- SPTDiverseGuards-Resources.esm 348 ----- Lovers with PK.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm -- Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 747 UOPS Additional Changes.esp 756 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp 759 : Recommend removing if using Wrye Bash. A tweak for this exists in "Tweak Settings". Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 761 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 802 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp 819 Better Cities .esp 925 Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp 1122 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 1149 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 1346 AliveWaters.esp 1709 clean it AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 1713 clean it AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 1716 VipCxj_BulletCamera 1906 Real_Mannequin.esp 2687 VipCxj_AirSystem.esp 2877 DLCHorseArmor.esp 3434 clean it DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp 3437 DLCOrrery.esp 3449 clean it DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp 3452 DLCVileLair.esp 3473 clean it DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp 3476 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 3493 clean it DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp 3495 clean it DLCSpellTomes.esp 3532 clean it DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp 3536 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 3586 ------------------------------------------- (Items Mods - armor and weapons) AngelicArmor.esp 3756 BBBRoseoftheGuard.esp 3966 FemaleImperialDragonCuirass.esp 4518 BreakArmor.esp IrohaClothes.esp 4811 Lady Flirt.esp 4962 VA_FemmeDaedricHelmet.esp 5978 StockClothingArmorBBBHGEC_Standard_ECupLBotPPN.esp 6712 TafasSexyLingerieset02.esp 6727 --------------------------------------------- DLCThievesDen.esp 7099 clean it DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp 7102 --------------------------------------------- (GROUP: Overhauls ) FCOM, Fran's, OOO, MMM, etc --------------------------------------- (GROUP: Quests and Locations and Player houses ) Ivellon.esp 9054 clean it adTreeHome.esp 9273 clean it Astralis.esp 9281 clean it HentaiLovelyHouse.esp 10506 Hentai Mania.esp (not HentaiMania2.esp) 10509 clean it Kvatch Rebuilt.esp 10899 clean it Valenwood Improved.esp 12438 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 12498 clean it DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 12772 clean it DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp 12777 clean it DLCFrostcrag.esp 12843 clean it DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp 12855 Knights.esp 12937 clean it Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp 12951 Knights_fem.esp 12997 The Lost Spires.esp 13196 clean it AFK_Weye.esp 13245 clean it ElsweyrAnequina.esp 13401 clean it Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp 13447 clean it Elsweyr plantations & co..esp 13462 clean it Faregyl.esp 13769 Feldscar.esp 13784 HackdirtAlive.esp 13797 clean it ----------------------------------------------- (Unique Landscapes) xuldarkforest.esp 13950 (german: Unique Landscapes - Dark Forest DV.esp ) LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp 13953 (other Unique Landscapes in order) Stendarr Valley The Heath Entius Gorge Fallenleaf Everglade LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp ColovianHighlands ChorrolHinterland Beaches of Cyrodiil 14060 -------------------------- HentaiMania2.esp ( not Hentai Mania.esp ) 14112 clean it ------------------------------ (other Unique Landscapes in order) Bravil Barrowfields 14143 LostSpires-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp Lush Woodlands AncientYews Ancient Redwoods Cloudtop Mountains ArriusCreek UL_Patch_AncientYews_ArriusCreek.esp / xulPatch_AY_AC.esp Rolling Hills Panther River River Ethe Brena River Ravine Imperial Isle Blackwood Forest Cheydinhal Falls Aspen Wood Skingrad Outskirts Snowdale Silverfish River Valley JerallGlacier TheEasternPeaks 14516 ---------------------------------- Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 15171 SPTDiverseGuards-Core.esp 16800 ( one of the different versions e.g. SPTDiverseGuards-Combined-Human.esp) ------------------------------------------- (Tamago and Lovers Mods) MaternityClothes.esp (16691) TamagoPlayerHUD.esp TamagoBreak.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoConfide.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversHiyokoShooter.esp HiyokoFutureDream.esp LoversEncounter.esp HiyokoQuestTarget.esp HiyokoGenetics.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp ( a no MBP Version you can find here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24785-hiyoko-generator-brood-mother-22-may-2014/?do=findComment&comment=622895 ) HiyokoGeneratorGeneForge.esp HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp ( or HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp You can not use both ! ) TamagoSetBody.esp LoversSetBody.esp <----NOTE: This plugin is outdated. I don't recommend folks use it anymore! LoversAphrodisia.esp LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp LoversDRader.esp LoversRapeman.esp LoversSummonRapeman.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversRaperS.esp Do not use if you use Lovers Plunder LoversJoburg.esp LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp LoversJealousy.esp LoversBed.esp LoversBednonstop.esp PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.(any).esp here if you use LoversPayBandit.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Pse-paybandit patch LoversPower.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversNTRburglar.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp LoversSoundCreature.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp LoversHorseRider.esp/LoversHorseRider2.esp LoversAchievments.esp LoversBrothel.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp ! do not use it if you use LoversHelpRapeVPlayer ! LoversHelpRapeVPlayer ! do not use if you use LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer ! LoversRapeStruggle.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversAdultYield.esp LoversMagic.esp LoversLight.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp ! or DarkBloodline.esp ! you can not use both ! TrueCrime was the predecessor of DarkBloodline. LoversUnicorn.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp LSTaddon ....esp (only one of the 4 versions) LoversPayBanditForSlaver.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversImmoralSisters.esp LoversMS14netori.esp LoversSexKariBurne.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.(any).esp ( other Lovers Mods) -------------------- stripper.esp 16675 Nudeshy X.esp 16692 DarkBloodline.esp DarkBloodlinesFix.esp MadCompanionshipSpells.esp 17852 MCS extension.esp 17854 --------------------------------- SetBody.esp 18055 --------------------------------- HumantouchNPC.esp 19007 (Pose and Animation Mods) 77_Umpa_Animation.esp 19482 Chain it!.esp 19488 zzEstrus.esp 19522 Woman's Move.esp 19524 ------------------------------------------- (Race , companion, MBP Mods) Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp (or Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp) 20091 Shrridan.esp 20153 Luchaire's Dryad Race.esp 20202 Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp 20215 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 19900 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseA00 Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Lop-ears Elf.esp 20293 eyja.esp 20403 clean it AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp 20434 Wiedergaenger Race.esp 20490 clean it ----------------------------- Khajiit Fix.esp 21430 ............................. ( only use one race fix ! KT_CustomRaceFix.esp with boethia custom race.esp OR CustomRaceFix.esp with boethia custom race.esp OR the all in one fix: Raceenabler.esp ) KT_CustomRaceFix.esp 21820 ! IF you have "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp" Remove this and use the UOP instead. CustomRaceFix.esp 21822 ! IF you have "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp" Remove this and use the UOP instead. boethia custom race.esp 21826 ! IF you have "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp" Remove this and use the UOP instead. Raceenabler.esp ! IF you have "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp" Remove this and use the UOP instead. ---------------------------------------- (Better Cities Mods. NOT open cities) Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp 21838 Better Cities Full.esp 21839 --or single files -- Better Cities - Skingrad City Defences.esp 21842 Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp Better Cities - Bravil City Defences.esp Better Cities BRAVIL.esp Better Cities - Anvil City Defences.esp Better Cities ANVIL.esp Better Cities - Chorrol City Defences.esp Better Cities CHORROL.esp Better Cities - Cheydinhal City Defences.esp Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp Better Cities - Leyawiin City Defences.esp Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp Better Cities - Bruma City Defences.esp Better Cities BRUMA.esp Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp Better Cities IC Arena.esp Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp Better Cities IC Market.esp Better Cities IC Prison.esp Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp Better Cities IC Temple.esp Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp 21878 ------------------------------------------------- Bashed Patch, 0.esp LoversMB2.esp Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Note: All plugins marked in red above should be merged into your bashed patch and disabled !! NO LOVERS AND TAMAGO MODS IN THE BASHED PATCH !! except LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp and LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp NOTE: Any Lovers with PK plugin not on the above list should be safe to install just above Setbody.esp - unless the mod author has a specific load order mentioned in the OP or readme.txt of their plugin. In essence, the breakdown of the spoilered list is as such for the .esp files. And this should be the basic guideline: Oblivion Repair Patches Shivering Isles and its repair patches The Better Cities ESP (only the master Esp and not the addons) Most any WEATHER mods Most all of the DLC content Roberts Male Body Replacer Most any ITEM mods Overhauls like OOO, MMM Quests, Locations and Player homes Knights.esp Other Quests (ie ElsweyrAnequina) Most any Landscapes Most any Tamago/Hiyoko Some lovers mods Lovers with PK.esp MOST Lovers mods Race and Companion mods (including CM Companions) MBP (Modular Beautiful People) The Better Cities mods (the addons) Bashed patch and last of Lovers That's the very basics. The above full list was made because some mods did overwrite and interfere with others if placed out of order. And the Companion mods have some command options that by design take precedent over others. Hence why they are further down the list and past nearly all lovers plugins.
dwharper34 Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 Thanks! That makes me feel a lot better! What about patches and fixes? I will work on it and paste a new load order when I'm done.
LongDukDong Posted May 28, 2021 Posted May 28, 2021 3 hours ago, dwharper34 said: What about patches and fixes? While this list is from 2014, it has a number of patches listed within. I mean, the beginning of the Esp section includes the Unofficial Oblivion Patches. And it does have the Pse-paybandit patch within. And I am thinking that SOMEONE updated a little with this: 13 hours ago, LongDukDong said: LoversRaperS.esp Do not use if you use Lovers Plunder The list has been around since 2014. But since Plunder has only been around for two years, someone made an edit....
dwharper34 Posted May 29, 2021 Posted May 29, 2021 After I made the new load order, I didn't notice any change. I played for a couple of hours. Is there a correlation with the Motion numbers and sex positions? I am still having problems with "Lovers: 15_Motion Ready.". I was having the problem with 12 and 16 too. I copied and changed Motion 30 to Motion 12. Am I changing the sex position, by using 30 in the 12 spot? On 5/23/2021 at 4:05 PM, LongDukDong said: Lovers with PK Extender, I haven't used for a while. If you haven't used Lovers with PK Extender for a while, you may not be experiencing the problem with changing from automatic to jump settings. I am not sure that's whats doing it, but the patch for that is what changes it back. Maybe you should try it or I should try to remove it. Setting PlayerProgression to 0 ((Default) 0 (Automatic)) works for me. Neither of the other two do. Which is yours set at? Load Order: GameMode=Oblivion Oblivion.esm=1 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm=1 BathingMod_Base.esm=1 Cobl Main.esm=1 DIM Elves Of Lineage II Retex.esm=1 CM Partners.esm=1 DKImperials.esm=1 All Natural Base.esm=1 Better Cities Resources.esm=1 Lovers with PK.esm=1 LoversCreature.esm=1 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp=1 DLCShiveringIsles.esp=1 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp=1 Better Cities .esp=1 All Natural.esp=1 All Natural - SI.esp=1 All Natural - Real Lights.esp=1 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp=1 Clearer Underwater.esp=0 AliveWaters.esp=1 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp=1 DLCHorseArmor.esp=1 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 DLCOrrery.esp=1 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 DLCVileLair.esp=1 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp=1 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 DLCSpellTomes.esp=1 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp=0 DLCThievesDen.esp=1 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp=1 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 DLCFrostcrag.esp=1 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 Emporium.esp=0 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp=1 No persistant enchantment glow fix-1843.esp=0 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp=0 No psychic guards v1.2.esp=1 CleanQuitAlternative.esp=1 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp=0 Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp=0 Unlimited Rings 2.0 -auto.esp=1 Tail-Slot Equipment Helper.esp=1 Bag of Holding.esp=1 Automagic Bags.esp=1 CharGenAmulet.esp=1 superSP_fatigue_restore_ring.esp=1 Imperishable Varla Stones.esp=1 OblivionReloaded.esp=1 Map Marker Overhaul.esp=1 Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp=0 NoEncumberance.esp=0 Ace's Items.esp=1 More Effective Enchantments.esp=1 FOV Modifier.esp=1 See You Sleep DLL.esp=1 See You Sleep DLL - DLCVileLair.esp=1 BathingMod_Soap.esp=1 BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp=1 BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp=1 Side's Cheydinhal House.esp=1 Side's Cheydinhal House (COBL).esp=1 Side's Cheydinhal House (BathMod).esp=1 Cheydinhal Nirnroot Growth Spur.esp=1 Zyrtos' Cheydinhal Garden.esp=1 ImperialCityHouse.esp=1 SupremeMagickaLite.esp=1 Cobl Glue.esp=1 Cobl Si.esp=1 Creature Diversity.esp=1 Knights.esp=1 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp=1 SeductiveIdles.esp=1 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp=1 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp=1 LoversBed.esp=1 LoversPayBandit.esp=1 Lovers with PK.esp=1 LoversCreature.esp=1 Lovers with PK Extender.esp=1 LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp=1 LoversRapeSlave.esp=1 LoversBackup2.esp=1 LAPF_Ex_Patch.esp=1 Cobl Races.esp=1 DKImperials.esp=1 Elves Of Lineage II.esp=1 Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp=1 IDKRRR_C_race.esp=1 Night Elf - by ssj4goku111.esp=1 IDKRRR_KFME4rev.esp=1 Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp=1 EyelashesVannilaRaces.esp=0 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp=1 _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp=1 DAValeriaCuteElf.esp=1 Cute Elf Companions - Feminine Walk & Run.esp=0 Nec-Character_Sonnet_Mature.esp=1 CM Partners.esp=1 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp=1 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp=1 CM Partner Lola.esp=1 CM Partner Feria.esp=1 CM Partner Xenia.esp=1 CM Partner Isabelle High Imperial v1-0-34543.esp=1 CM Partner Caitlyn v1.esp=1 CM Partner Sah v1.esp=1 CM Partner Jada.esp=1 CompanionFergus.esp=1 1em_Vilja.esp=1 Ace's Companions.esp=0 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp=0 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp=0 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp=0 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp=0 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp=1 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp=0 Better Cities Full.esp=1 Better Imperial City.esp=1 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp=1 Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp=1 Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp=1 Better Cities - COBL.esp=1 Better Cities Anvil Open - Knights of the Nine.esp=1 Better Cities - All Natural.esp=1 Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp=1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 LoversMB2.esp=1 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp=1 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp=1 Lovers3dorgasm.esp=1 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp=1 Mod List: ACTIVE [Name] Qarls Texture Pack III for NMM-44772-1-3 ACTIVE [Name] EngineBugFixes v2.22 ACTIVE [Name] FOV Modifier v2_0-23080 ACTIVE [Name] Clean Quit Alternative-21416 ACTIVE [Name] Mystic Emporium Fix 1.1-43825-1-1 ACTIVE [Name] No persistant enchantment glow fix-1843 ACTIVE [Name] Oblivion 1_2_416 English-11364 ACTIVE [Name] Oblivion Shivering Isles 1_2_416 English-11364 ACTIVE [Name] Map Marker Overhaul 3_9_3-26389 ACTIVE [Name] Enhanced Water v2.0 HD ACTIVE [Name] Alive Waters Updated v0.9-44069-0-9 ACTIVE [Name] Clearer Underwater v17411 ACTIVE [Name] fantasmagoria flora v4.0 ACTIVE [Name] Corean Mod v1.8 ACTIVE [Name] CoreanHair v1.8 ACTIVE [Name] Corean egmFiles v1.8 ACTIVE [Name] DK High Imperials Updated-33044 ACTIVE [Name] Elves of Lineage II v1.0 ACTIVE [Name] kfmev4rev-25996 ACTIVE [Name] Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake v1 ACTIVE [Name] Night Elf Race by ssj4goku111-7324 ACTIVE [Name] Xenius HGEC HR Night Elf Texture Replacer-28358 ACTIVE [Name] MenuQue v16b ACTIVE [Name] Cobl v174 ACTIVE [Name] Grin Fix REQUIRES 1_2 Update-33044 ACTIVE [Name] Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover ACTIVE [Name] Imperishable Varla Stones-27441 ACTIVE [Name] More Effective Enchantments v22 ACTIVE [Name] No Encumbrance-45853-1-0 ACTIVE [Name] No psychic guards v1.2 ACTIVE [Name] Tail-Slot Equipment Helper v1.4 ACTIVE [Name] Your Imperial City House Mod-2814 ACTIVE [Name] Creature Diversity 1.14-26634-1-14 ACTIVE [Name] Creature Diversity 1.14b UPDATE-26634-1-14b ACTIVE [Name] MaleBodyReplacerV52-40532 ACTIVE [Name] MaleOutfitReplacerV52-40532 ACTIVE [Name] HG EyeCandy Body Fighter Nude LL-lower D-upper BBB ACTIVE [Name] Character Generator Amulet v2072 ACTIVE [Name] SUPERSP-28730 ACTIVE [Name] Unlimited Amulets v1.0 ACTIVE [Name] Unlimited Rings 2.0 -auto.esp ACTIVE [Name] Lineage elves texture updated-20432 ACTIVE [Name] Ren_BeautyPack_v1_1_addrace ACTIVE [Name] Ren_BeautyPack_v1_1_onlyhairs ACTIVE [Name] White Teeth All-18589 ACTIVE [Name] Working Eyelashes-18185 ACTIVE [Name] Corean Hairs for Elves of Lineage II-15701 ACTIVE [Name] OBSE -Elys- Universal Silent Voice v93 ACTIVE [Name] Unofficial Oblivion DLC Patches v9969-24 ACTIVE [Name] Automagic Bags v4.03 ACTIVE [Name] Bag of Holding v4065 ACTIVE [Name] Supreme Magicka v1.5 ACTIVE [Name] See You Sleep DLL v1 ACTIVE [Name] 5 Cute Elves ver 1 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Caitlyn v1 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Feria v1-Final-15150 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Isabelle High Imperial v1-0-34543 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Jada v1 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Lola v20474 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Sah v1 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partner Xenia-23356 ACTIVE [Name] Nec Character Sonnet Mature-16329 ACTIVE [Name] Ace's Companions ACTIVE [Name] CompanionFergus v2-1 ACTIVE [Name] MBP Plus Plus v098a Full ACTIVE [Name] Cute Elves Companions Feminine Walk and Run-49600-1-0-1567024729 ACTIVE [Name] CompanionVilja v4_04-28977-4-04 ACTIVE [Name] Seductive Idles v1.1 ACTIVE [Name] CM Partners v2-7819 ACTIVE [Name] LAPF - version 1.6a1 ACTIVE [Name] LAPF Supplemental Plugin Pack v1 ACTIVE [Name] Lovers with PK Extender ACTIVE [Name] LAPF Extended Patch ACTIVE [Name] ExtraAPAnimationsNeeded ACTIVE [Name] Lovers Adult Play Plus for SSP v1.11 ACTIVE [Name] LoversVoiceSSPplus v1.19 ACTIVE [Name] Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch-10739-1-5-9 ACTIVE [Name] Unofficial Oblivion Patch-5296-3-5-6b-1589151835 ACTIVE [Name] Pluggy Dev v132 ACTIVE [Name] Oblivion Reloaded v6-2-0 ACTIVE [Name] Blockhead v10.3 ACTIVE [Name] LoversCreatures v2.5.11 ACTIVE [Name] 3dOrgasm ACTIVE [Name] Side_s Cheydinhal House-30257 ACTIVE [Name] Bathing Mod-13275 ACTIVE [Name] Weather - All Natural v1.38 ACTIVE [Name] Better Cities v6.0.13-16513-6-0-13-1590843631 ACTIVE [Name] Zyrtos Cheydinhal Nirnroot Garden Mod ACTIVE [Name] Ace's Items
LongDukDong Posted May 29, 2021 Posted May 29, 2021 Just going through it... UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix. ... both are Unofficial Oblivion I would put the LAPF Ex Patch right after PK Extemder. Now all this from a fresh re-install and new savegames? I swear, I never had the motion issues you're having and I just reinstalled Oblivion since my HDD crashed and I needed a new PC. Windows 10 now actually, so no worries it doesn't work with Win10.
dwharper34 Posted May 29, 2021 Posted May 29, 2021 I found my problem! It was Lovers with PK Extender and its patch. After I uninstalled them, I made sure my settings were on Automatic and then played for about three hours having sex without any errors or actors being out of position. There were many new positions I had never seen and when you asked for something, you pretty much got it. There were a few less menus and it doesn't change my settings automatically. What a pleasure! I can probably get rid of both of those. I guess you need vampires looking good before you kill them. And from reading about the door fix, I guess it fixes the directional sound of a door inside a Oblivion Portal, which I've never even heard. I dual boot with Windows 7 & 10. Windows 10 is required for Horizon Zero Dawn. I just took a break from it and decided to try Oblivion again. I'm glad I did. You were talking about putting the patch after the extender and I had to go check, because I thought they were that way. It wasn't until I couldn't find them, I remembered uninstalling them. I just mentioned it above too. You should try using Lovers with PK Extender and its patch and see if you have the problems that I had. You might be able to help fix it. It certainly doesn't work for me. Thanks again for all of your help! I'll be back if I run into any problems.
dwharper34 Posted June 1, 2021 Posted June 1, 2021 Since I removed PK Extender and its patch, I have played about 3 days without an error. I have had several positioning problems with "Lovers: 15_Motion Ready" and "Lovers: 16_Motion Ready". Where would I select Motions from to try to match the positions of 15_Motions and 16_Motions?
TDA Posted June 1, 2021 Posted June 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, dwharper34 said: Since I removed PK Extender and its patch, I have played about 3 days without an error. I have had several positioning problems with "Lovers: 15_Motion Ready" and "Lovers: 16_Motion Ready". Where would I select Motions from to try to match the positions of 15_Motions and 16_Motions? it looks like it's generally from different sequences ... By the way, in the first 10-15 animations (it seems) there is no sequence of phases 1-2-3-0, animations from different sequences are taken there, but this is not accurate ... Forget it, in short. I just delete them, or remade them in 3dsmax if the initial poses are good.
dwharper34 Posted June 3, 2021 Posted June 3, 2021 @LongDukDong On 5/29/2021 at 12:58 AM, dwharper34 said: You should try using Lovers with PK Extender and its patch and see if you have the problems that I had. Now that I removed those two files, LAPF is working great! Thanks for your help!
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