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Hello.

 

I've been trying to expand my mod list a bit lately for a new playthrough and everything started out nicely, I made my character, set up my MCM menu's and did a quick test by picking a random start from Live Another Life, that seemed to work so I reloaded my save in the cell, at which point the game crashes.

Trying to reload that save again causes yet more crashes.

I did a quick test by opening it up in a savecleaner and doing that crashed the save cleaner.

It would appear that something corrupts my saved games.

I had a similar problem a while back, but it dissapeared when I removed Slaverun and I had a long 40 level playthrough with that loadorder after that before I got bored.

 

I will try to remember what mods I've added to this mod list after I got bored in the first spoiler, and put my load order in the second spoiler.

 

Spoiler

Mods I've added in order that I remember them:

 

Realistic Water Two

Simply Bigger Trees

SexLab Separate Orgasms

Spank that Ass

Sexlab Confabulations

Sexlab Solutions

Deviously Vanilla

Sexlab Approach Redux

Immersive NPC's in the dark

Follower Trap Safety

Traps Make Noise

BakaFactory's SLAL

Billy's SLAL

BakaFactorie's ABC

DX Witcher Armor CBBE BS Standalone

 

I think that's all of them

 

Here is my Load Order according to Mod Organizer

Spoiler

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SkyrimSewers.ESM
Campfire.esm
SexLab.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
EFFCore.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Heretical Resources.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
Heels Sound.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
notice board.esp
daymoyl.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
SkyUI.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
RLO - Interiors.esp
Skyrim Bigger Trees Full.esp
RealisticRoomRental.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Scarcity - Less Loot Mod.esp
Sanctuary Reborn.esp
RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
Point The Way.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Forgotten DungeonsAll.esp
RealShelter.esp
SD Cages - No NPCs.esp
RLO - Exteriors.esp
Heljarchen_Reform_ver_2_BSA.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
SL Survival.esp
Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp
SexLab-Stories.esp
LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
SexLab Confabulation.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
BFT Ships and Carriages.esp
troublesofheroine.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
WayshrinesIFT.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Cloaks.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
BDVanillaCritters.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
HelmetToggle2.03.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
zzEstrus.esp
better_torches_brighter_torchlight.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
Bounty Gold.esp
more plants all extra.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes_HighSpawn.esp
Uncle Sheo.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SlaveTats.esp
Ballet Boots.esp
Forgotten DungeonsDLC.esp
Devious Loading Screens.esp
SerialStrip.esp
SerialStripper.esp
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
XPMSE.esp
InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
NordicSkaalHeavyFalmerWeightFix.esp
Devious Devices - Lore Patch.esp
Devious Devices - Struggle Idles Patch.esp
Devious Lore.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
Frostfall.esp
HeljarchenFarm.esp
HeljarchenFarmReformedv1.5.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
DeviousRegulations.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
Mannequin.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
RSChildren - Complete.esp
RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp
Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Devious Cidhna.esp
Botox.esp
Botox_CharGen.esp
VTF-Dawnguard.esp
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
MorrowindImports.esp
BD UUNP Armor and cloth replacer.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp
Sinderion's Field Lab.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
TradeRoutes.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
TradeBarter.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
TradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.esp
Dovah Vault.esp
Better Vampires.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
pchs_loansharks.esp
Werewolves.esp
Deviously Enslaved.esp
Better Vampire Weapons.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
HoldBorderBanners.esp
Vampirelordroyal.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp
VL No AoE Drain.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
mslDeviousCaptures.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard.esp
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
SexLab Approach.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Shiny Catsuits.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
LustmordVampireArmor.esp
VioLens.esp
DisableRangedKillCams1.6.esp
Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
With Plug.esp
Faction Crossbows.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
Dalish_Vallaslin_Female.esp
FNIS.esp
NoNakedComments.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
LootandDegradation.esp
Scarcity - 10x Loot Rarity.esp
Scarcity - 10x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
Scarcity - 2x Loot Rarity.esp
Scarcity - 2x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
Scarcity - 4x Loot Rarity.esp
Scarcity - 4x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
Scarcity - 8x Loot Rarity.esp
Scarcity - 8x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
Scarcity - 6x Loot Rarity.esp
Scarcity - 6x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
Brows.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp
SD Addons.esp
SexistGuards.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
RapeTattoos.esp
FadeTattoos.esp
DeviouslyHelpless.esp
BetterArchmagesRobes.esp
Whistle.esp
CrimeDecay.esp
Botox - TEoB Patch.esp
UIExtensions.esp
BD UUNP Dawnguard armor and cloth replacer.esp
BD-UUNP Dragonborn armor clothes replacer.esp
LewdMarks.esp
AddItemMenuLE.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
RevampedExteriorFog.esp
TrueStorms.esp
TrueStorms-RLO.esp
Supreme Storms.esp
ENB Snow FX.esp
Hydra Devious Devices Patch.esp
Slaverun Devious Devices Patch.esp
Tavern Clothes Devious Devices Patch.esp
[COCO]LaceBody.esp
[COCO]CheongSan_full.esp
FMR Ordinator Patch.esp
CityBondage.esp
Grass On Steroids.esp
RLO - Effects.esp
RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-Vanilla.esp
SplashofRain.esp
Supreme Fog.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
SLSO.esp
Spank That Ass.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
Immersive NPC in the dark.esp
Traps Make Noise.esp
SexLab Confabulation - Solutions Patch.esp
Deviously Vanilla - AIO.esp
[NIND]DX Witcher Armor.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp
RSPatch.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp

 

 

I will also post my papyrus logs, Log 1 will be from after I had set up everything and tried to reload a earlier save, Log 0 will be when I then restarted and tried to load it agian.

 

Thank you for any help you might be able to give me.

Papyrus.1.log Papyrus.0.log

Posted
16 minutes ago, Ursur1major said:

Hello.

 

I've been trying to expand my mod list a bit lately for a new playthrough and everything started out nicely, I made my character, set up my MCM menu's and did a quick test by picking a random start from Live Another Life, that seemed to work so I reloaded my save in the cell, at which point the game crashes.

Trying to reload that save again causes yet more crashes.

I did a quick test by opening it up in a savecleaner and doing that crashed the save cleaner.

It would appear that something corrupts my saved games.

I had a similar problem a while back, but it dissapeared when I removed Slaverun and I had a long 40 level playthrough with that loadorder after that before I got bored.

 

I will try to remember what mods I've added to this mod list after I got bored in the first spoiler, and put my load order in the second spoiler.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Here is my Load Order according to Mod Organizer

  Reveal hidden contents

 

I will also post my papyrus logs, Log 1 will be from after I had set up everything and tried to reload a earlier save, Log 0 will be when I then restarted and tried to load it agian.

 

Thank you for any help you might be able to give me.

Papyrus.1.log 2.11 MB · 0 downloads Papyrus.0.log 74.61 kB · 0 downloads

Do you have this?

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443

Posted
Just now, Ursur1major said:

Yes

If you fear corrupt saves: 1) what size are your saves and 2) have you tried cleaning them with ReSaver (part of Fllrim Tools)?

Posted
5 minutes ago, Psalam said:

If you fear corrupt saves: 1) what size are your saves and 2) have you tried cleaning them with ReSaver (part of Fllrim Tools)?

The Save files appear to be about 13 000 KB, and I hadn't before heard of ReSaver and tried to run it, it appears to confirm that the save is corrupted.

 

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Posted

checked your papyrus log seem to have a lot of missed function calls and scripts not firing properly overtime this will corrupt your save, and the process will speed up depending on the number of scripts firing. The best way to solve your problem is remove every mod one by one until you find the one causing the problem.

 

Check for errors in tes v edit as well with the check errors script (this is just general safe practices).

 

Since your save is getting corrupted overtime it is without a doubt scripts trying to access incorrect memory locations and the papyrus engine not being able to handle all the errors properly.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Ursur1major said:

The Save files appear to be about 13 000 KB, and I hadn't before heard of ReSaver and tried to run it, it appears to confirm that the save is corrupted.

 

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If so, then your only real choice is to go back to the last save that you have that is not corrupted. And, BTW, the size of your files is terrific.

Posted

Save file size isn't much of a problem provided you have the necessary fixes, that count the loaded refs properly. the rule issue is how many temporary references the save is making, as   32-bit skyrim can only load a little over 1,000,000 of these at a time.

Generally speaking your save could reach 126mb after 500 hrs of play and you would still be fine for another 600 hrs. 

Of course large amounts of scripts straining your papyrus engine will also result in corruption overtime.

Posted

Doesn't Crash Fixes fix the string table bug? Or I am I thinking of something else?

9 minutes ago, Psalam said:

And, BTW, the size of your files is terrific.

As in terrifically large? 13mb for a level 1 save?

Posted

with a heavy load order getting 20mb for a lv1 save can be common.

 

String table bug different than loaded refs if that's what you are referring to the way to fix it is esmify large land mods.

 

This will also reduce save size.

Posted
1 hour ago, Strawman said:

String table bug different than loaded refs if that's what you are referring to the way to fix it is esmify large land mods.

I was referring to this from the CF page.

"Added fix for more than 65535 strings in save game."

Posted

Definitely think it has to do with String Size, might simply have to look at what I need to shave away

It's slightly annoying since the Crash Fixes seems to imply that they fixed this exact problem

 

Found this page when googling some more

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Strawman said:

with a heavy load order getting 20mb for a lv1 save can be common.

 

String table bug different than loaded refs if that's what you are referring to the way to fix it is esmify large land mods.

 

This will also reduce save size.

What do you mean by esmify large land mods?

And what constitutes as a large land mod?

Posted
23 minutes ago, Ursur1major said:

What do you mean by esmify large land mods?

And what constitutes as a large land mod?

I think you'll find that the post you linked pre-dates the Crash Fixes fix. Crash Fixes does fix the string table error so you either have a different problem or you do not have CF installed/set up correctly.

 

'esmify' means change the esp to an esm with TESVEdit.

 

2 hours ago, Strawman said:

Check for errors in tes v edit as well with the check errors script

What is this 'check errors script'?

Posted

If you want to post your savefile, I could take a look at it. I mean, my guess would be that Crash Fixes is installed incorrectly or doesn't have the string table fix enabled. But I could load up your savefile in Resaver in the debugging environment and take a look at the binary level.

Posted
53 minutes ago, markdf said:

If you want to post your savefile, I could take a look at it. I mean, my guess would be that Crash Fixes is installed incorrectly or doesn't have the string table fix enabled. But I could load up your savefile in Resaver in the debugging environment and take a look at the binary level.

I do hope it's as simple as me messing up during the installation, do you need the SKSE files for the saves as well?

Posted two saves just to be safe, 898 is corrupted, 897 should not be

Save 898 - Prisoner Abandoned Prison 00.08.58.ess Save 897 - Prisoner Abandoned Prison 00.07.55.ess

Posted
1 hour ago, markdf said:

If you want to post your savefile, I could take a look at it. I mean, my guess would be that Crash Fixes is installed incorrectly or doesn't have the string table fix enabled. But I could load up your savefile in Resaver in the debugging environment and take a look at the binary level.

While I don't want to celebrate immediately.
I do think the answer was that I was a big dumb dumb.

Turns out Crash Fixes was in fact turned off, I think I turned it off because it was incompatible with the Skyrim Stability Guide's suggestion to increase memory storage using the ENB, and I missed that Crash Fixes does that as well because I am a dumb dumb, and then I just forgot I turned it off.

It's turned on now for real, and it seems to work so far, I guess we'll see later this week if I just delayed it or not.

Posted

For what it's worth I could load  897 but not 898. Savecleaner bombed out trying to open 898 and ReSaver threw up the string table bug message. I have Crash Fixes installed but once the save gets screwed with the string table fella, it stays screwed.

Posted

Check errors is a script included in tes v edit that checks whether the plugin is referencing an invalid hexadecimal address.

These errors lead to crashes and visual glitches, or in worst case memory corruption.

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