Acro748 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Posted February 22, 2020 15 hours ago, onen said: Getting a CTD with this and the nexus replacer mod everytime when entering Helgen keep after a LAL sexy starting options I went swimming and.. start. Starting at the river, run up the hill to Helgen and try to enter the keep CTD. Removed this mod and the replacer, no CTD. I enter the keep naked with no armor in inventory. There are dead clothed npcs and 2 living inside the keep along with armor on their corpses. Batched build in OS selecting 3BA when available, otherwise 3BF for each of the replacer outfits for my custom 3BA body. Ran LOOT, FNIS etc as usual with no errors. I can console additem armors and wear them with no problems. All 4 of the BD's 3BBB... where downloaded today. Would the replacer being a esl cause this? Edit: removed the esl flag from the .esp and still CTD. Tried using the other UUNP .esp replacer, still CTD. I found in BD 3BF Iron Armor the neck part of that armor is way off the body. Fixed it in OS..still CTD. Load Order Reveal hidden contents Loading plugin list: (0 -> 0) Skyrim.esm (1 -> 1) Update.esm (2 -> 2) Dawnguard.esm (3 -> 3) HearthFires.esm (4 -> 4) Dragonborn.esm (5 -> 5) Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp (6 -> 6) Heels Sound.esm (7 -> 7) ZaZAnimationPack.esm (8 -> ? 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SSE 1.5.97 - 2.3.2 0495 Zaz HDT patch 0496 ZaZ Animation Pack+ CBBE HDT V.8.0+SEREV3 0497 SLAL Anub Creature 8.2019 0498 SLAL Anub Human 8.2019 0499 SLAL Babo Creature 2019.09.08 SE 0500 SLAL Babo Human 2019.09.08 SE 0501 FNIS Sexy Move SE 7.2 0502 FNIS PCEA2 7.2 0503 FNIS Spells SE 7.0 0515 HN66 Nails for SSE CBBE Hands 0516 HN66's Mage Nails - Special Edition 0524 DD - CBBE 3BA SE Bodyslide Conversion 1.0 0525 DD BRRF - CBBE 3BA SE Bodyslide Conversion 1.0 0526 DCL - CBBE 3BA SE Bodyslide Conversion 1.0 0527 ZAZ - CBBE 3BA SE Bodyslide Conversion 1.0 0531 BD's 3BBB Armor and clothes replacer - AIO 0532 BD 3BBB Advanced Armor and clothes replacer 0533 BD's 3BBB Armor replacer Update file 0534 BD's 3BBB Amazing Bodyslide Group file 0536 Built animations 0537 Built bodyslide outfits This mod is cell has never modified, so specific cell CTD cannot be occur. Therefore, it is necessary to know which NPCs there occurred CTD. So check if there is an NPC that is added or modified in that cell by mod.
onen Posted February 22, 2020 Posted February 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Acro748 said: This mod is cell has never modified, so specific cell CTD cannot be occur. Therefore, it is necessary to know which NPCs there occurred CTD. So check if there is an NPC that is added or modified in that cell by mod. I ran some more tests. with DCL removed, I can enter helgen keep, no CTD. With DCL added i get CTD. So DCL is adding npc's to helgen keep. After looking at DCL in SSEEdit I see the following: Deviously Cursed Loot.esp -> Cell -> Block 8 -> Sub-Block 4 Helgen Keep dcur_deadBanditLoot dcur_deadBanditLoot2 dcur_chloequest_deadimperial "Imperial Guard" dcur_chloequest_deadimperialNoNote "Imperial Guard" Deviously Cursed Loot.esp -> Outfit ->dcur_deadBanditLoot dcur_armor_minidreess_mage_light "Mage's Dress" dcur_armor_catsuitdressboots_light "Mage's Shoes" dcur_armor_CatsuitGloves_light "Mage's Rubber Gloves" Deviously Cursed Loot.esp -> Outfit ->dcur_deadBanditLoot2 dcur_armor_glassrobe_light "Fighter's Dress" dcur_outfit_chloe ClothesBeggarBoots "Ragged Boots" ClothesPrisonerRags "Ragged Trousers" Deviously Cursed Loot.esp -> Non-Player Character (Actor) dcur_deadBanditLoot LootBanditRandom LootForswornRandomWizard dcur_deadBanditLoot2 LootBanditRandom dcur_chloequest_deadimperial CWSoldierImperialSoldierOutfitNoHelmet dcur_chloequest_imperialsoldier CWSoldierImperialOfficerOutfitNoHelmet dcur_chloequest_deadimperialNoNote LItemArmorAllSpeciall LItemEnchRobes So best I can make is the CTD has to do with either: Begger Boots "Ragged Boots" Prisoner Rags "Ragged Trousers" Bandit Armor Forsworn Clothes Imperial Armor Imperial Officer Armor If I player.help Imperial 0 I see 2 sets of Imperial armor 401A5734 Imperial Armor 136D5 Imperial Armor using additem for both, only 136D5 shows up in my inventory and is the BD imperial armor. 401a5734 says it is added but does not show up in inventory. Also bodyslide gives the options for Prisoner rag or Prisoner rag short which does not replace any Vanilla Prisoner Bikini or Prisoner Clothes will replace CBBE Vanilla Body Prisoner There are several other BD 3BF armors that don't replace any Vanilla armor. You can see this by Batch building the Vanilla armor along with BD's to see what is replaced in the choices.
onen Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Uncle64 said: @onen What dlc are you talking about? BD's Armor and Clothes Replacer 3BBB bodyslide conversion and this mods 3BBB Advanced patch As I said in the first post i get a CTD when trying to enter Helgen keep. If i remove these 2 mods then I don't get any CTD so I know it's the replacer causing it. And i know vanilla armor DCL adds to that cell is the problem.
Uncle64 Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 2 hours ago, onen said: BD's Armor and Clothes Replacer 3BBB bodyslide conversion and this mods 3BBB Advanced patch As I said in the first post i get a CTD when trying to enter Helgen keep. If i remove these 2 mods then I don't get any CTD so I know it's the replacer causing it. And i know vanilla armor DCL adds to that cell is the problem. I have it installed in my system and I have passed Helgen several of times now. You have some other issue. Perhaps read up on modders pages and do you modding correct, there is nothing in this or the armor mod you link to that should crash your game in Helgen.
onen Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 58 minutes ago, Uncle64 said: I have it installed in my system and I have passed Helgen several of times now. You have some other issue. Perhaps read up on modders pages and do you modding correct, there is nothing in this or the armor mod you link to that should crash your game in Helgen. I'm not a rookie, i've been using mods in skyrim and fo4 for years, I know what I'm doing. I also googled every Helgen keep CTD in existance. I encountered this CTD with a 380 mod profile. I reduced that now down to 60 mods to find what caused the CTD. If i only remove this armor replacer I don't CTD. Yet your saying it's not the replacer fault... If i only remove DCL, i don't CTD because the vanilla armor is no longer being put into the Helgen keep cell by DCL. Looking at "BD Armor and clothes replacer.esp" in SSEEdit I don't see any entries for several armors, just their helm and boots. How does say the chest piece "Imperial Armor" get replaced? Is it a simple Armor or Armor Addon overrite or does each armor need a Form ID List entry? I see neither in this esp for "Imperial Armor". I suspect it's rare to be using DD and DCL with 3BBB Advanced given no public conversion done, so no one else has come across this yet. It's hard to believe you didn't get a CTD using a similar mod list I posted. I would love to use this replacer in my next playthrough but it looks like if I wan't that to happen I'll have to research how a replacer works and fix it myself.
Homonculus Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, onen said: I'm not a rookie, i've been using mods in skyrim and fo4 for years, I know what I'm doing. I also googled every Helgen keep CTD in existance. I encountered this CTD with a 380 mod profile. I reduced that now down to 60 mods to find what caused the CTD. If i only remove this armor replacer I don't CTD. Yet your saying it's not the replacer fault... If i only remove DCL, i don't CTD because the vanilla armor is no longer being put into the Helgen keep cell by DCL. Looking at "BD Armor and clothes replacer.esp" in SSEEdit I don't see any entries for several armors, just their helm and boots. How does say the chest piece "Imperial Armor" get replaced? Is it a simple Armor or Armor Addon overrite or does each armor need a Form ID List entry? I see neither in this esp for "Imperial Armor". I suspect it's rare to be using DD and DCL with 3BBB Advanced given no public conversion done, so no one else has come across this yet. It's hard to believe you didn't get a CTD using a similar mod list I posted. I would love to use this replacer in my next playthrough but it looks like if I wan't that to happen I'll have to research how a replacer works and fix it myself. I have DD, 3BBB A and this replacer installed, never had any issues so it could be something incompatible between DCL and this replacer. Gonna try with DCL and check. Edit: If you're playing using a controller you need to grab the script fix for DD in the support thread otherwise CTD.
Equo Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 Would it be possible to add a "dummy armor" with every BodySlide checkbox (for example, Bra, Panty, Cloak, Skirt, Belt etc.) available, so that batch building is more effective?
Uncle64 Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 6 hours ago, onen said: I'm not a rookie, i've been using mods in skyrim and fo4 for years, I know what I'm doing. I also googled every Helgen keep CTD in existance. I encountered this CTD with a 380 mod profile. I reduced that now down to 60 mods to find what caused the CTD. If i only remove this armor replacer I don't CTD. Yet your saying it's not the replacer fault... If i only remove DCL, i don't CTD because the vanilla armor is no longer being put into the Helgen keep cell by DCL. Looking at "BD Armor and clothes replacer.esp" in SSEEdit I don't see any entries for several armors, just their helm and boots. How does say the chest piece "Imperial Armor" get replaced? Is it a simple Armor or Armor Addon overrite or does each armor need a Form ID List entry? I see neither in this esp for "Imperial Armor". I suspect it's rare to be using DD and DCL with 3BBB Advanced given no public conversion done, so no one else has come across this yet. It's hard to believe you didn't get a CTD using a similar mod list I posted. I would love to use this replacer in my next playthrough but it looks like if I wan't that to happen I'll have to research how a replacer works and fix it myself. You dont think it can be one of the mods you have removed that creates your issue? You perhaps mixes skeletons? How do you install your mods?
Homonculus Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, PraedythXVI said: I have DD, 3BBB A and this replacer installed, never had any issues so it could be something incompatible between DCL and this replacer. Gonna try with DCL and check. Edit: If you're playing using a controller you need to grab the script fix for DD in the support thread otherwise CTD. After installing DCL i got CTD in helgen keep down in the prison past Chloe...gonna look at DCL's files because i don't think it's caused by this mod here otherwise it would happen in other locations too. Edit: removing DCL does indeed remove the CTD issue so it's got to do with DCL's files.
Uncle64 Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 I am so confused about the talk about DLC:s. There is NO DLC:s for SkyrimSE those are already included and cant be removed. Did also check onen:s Modorder his left side in MO2. He should consider to fix it up.
Homonculus Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Uncle64 said: I am so confused about the talk about DLC:s. There is NO DLC:s for SkyrimSE those are already included and cant be removed. Did also check onen:s Modorder his left side in MO2. He should consider to fix it up. DCL not DLC. DCL = Deviously Cursed Loot.
Homonculus Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 Best take this issue to the DCL support thread, not only do i CTD when i go past Chloe and in the torture area but also if after opening Chloe's prison cell if i step in i also CTD. Edit: Someone else reported the same issue in the DCL support thread. Proof enough that BD's armor replacer has nothing to do with that.
onen Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/23/2020 at 8:20 AM, PraedythXVI said: Best take this issue to the DCL support thread, not only do i CTD when i go past Chloe and in the torture area but also if after opening Chloe's prison cell if i step in i also CTD. Edit: Someone else reported the same issue in the DCL support thread. Proof enough that BD's armor replacer has nothing to do with that. What they reported was either black face or a SMP issue. When I installed DCL 8.4Rev1 I encountered black face Chloe but it didn't crash me. In my experience some black face crash, some don't. Exported the face gen with CK and fixed it. Just installed DCL 8.4Rev4, letting Rev4 overwrite the facegen files I exported(to use theirs) and still CTD at all 3 entrances to Helgen keep. The DLC thread issue is inside Helgen keep, mine is I can't get in.
Homonculus Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, onen said: What they reported was either black face or a SMP issue. When I installed DCL 8.4Rev1 I encountered black face Chloe but it didn't crash me. In my experience some black face crash, some don't. Exported the face gen with CK and fixed it. Just installed DCL 8.4Rev4, letting Rev4 overwrite the facegen files I exported(to use theirs) and still CTD at all 3 entrances to Helgen keep. The DLC thread issue is inside Helgen keep, mine is I can't get in. Post your issue there not here so Pfiffy can see it. Try the facegen files posted by Zarantha on the DCL thread, post #1578.
onen Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 9:13 PM, Uncle64 said: I have it installed in my system and I have passed Helgen several of times now. You have some other issue. Perhaps read up on modders pages and do you modding correct, there is nothing in this or the armor mod you link to that should crash your game in Helgen. The CTD was caused by not having Imperial Texture Fix from BD's Armor and Clothing Replacer Complete Collection UUNP which BD's 3BBB armor and clothes replacer says under the requirements is no longer needed.
Acro748 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Posted February 26, 2020 BD GND Temporary fix.7z Someone else found out that some of the GND mesh had problems. And created a fix file that replaced the GND mesh in question with vanilla GND mesh. It's a bug had in LE version also I found it in SE UUNP version. List of GND equipment in problem: Dragonscale - Boots, Gauntlets Elven - Boots Falmer - Boots, Gauntlets Nordplate - Boots Wolf - Boots, Gloves So, this may be the reason why DCL CTD issue is being If I have time later, I can make a GND mesh of the equipment.
ryuusaru Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 Hi. I was wondering if there is a way for me to fix this clipping issue?
AttilaMagyar Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 Hi, I just D/L your patch and suddenly saw my frame rate dropped from 60 FPS to about 14 FPS, Any ideas on why this would happen? Thanks
Homonculus Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 9 hours ago, AttilaMagyar said: Hi, I just D/L your patch and suddenly saw my frame rate dropped from 60 FPS to about 14 FPS, Any ideas on why this would happen? Thanks Try removing the patch and doing the same thing Onen did to fix his ctd (post 42), i'm the one who helped him deal with that, the gnd mesh fix wasn't necessary in his case.
AttilaMagyar Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 Thanks for the tip, I tried using that little GND mesh fix but, it didn't help. Gonna try reinstalling the Bd 3bbb armor and clothes without the patch and see if that resolves my issue. Still experiencing the frame drop, any other suggestions?
jclyde6108 Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 Any plans to provide a version of this mod to go with BD's standalone version?
Homonculus Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, jclyde6108 said: Any plans to provide a version of this mod to go with BD's standalone version? There's a standalone version ? where ? link pls
Homonculus Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, AttilaMagyar said: Thanks for the tip, I tried using that little GND mesh fix but, it didn't help. Gonna try reinstalling the Bd 3bbb armor and clothes without the patch and see if that resolves my issue. Still experiencing the frame drop, any other suggestions? did you try the texture fix ? i wasn't saying to try the gnd mesh fix so i don't think you understood my message ?
jclyde6108 Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, PraedythXVI said: There's a standalone version ? where ? link pls first file from same nexus link as the replacer... https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32518
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