The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[killer905]

2 hours ago, ruddycray said:

Some involvement from Mjoll is a possibility. I don't know how much direct involvement I'd give her in a scenario where you rat her out, because that kind of thing skirts a little close to the feeling of sex stuff grafted onto the game that I'm trying to avoid.

 

Something like your second idea is also a possibility, but I'd have to give it some thought. The premise isn't bad. I do try to avoid pulling in too many vanilla characters, because it can very quickly get to where it feels weird that someone doesn't recognize you, but if the situation is engineered so that neither of you would recognize each other, it might work.

The first idea after the appropriate cuts can be interesting (you can give a clone here). The second idea I just suggested is a mask requirement to avoid later stupidity where the NPC pretends not to know us. A dragon priest mask should suffice. Let's be honest, if someone doesn't have a wife/lover, they use such services (maybe a hand won't be enough, huh?).

[-alpha-]

Hello~
Anyone know how to resolve, disable or prevent this from happening?
When walking into a DG with a working girl as a follower.
When a customer auto approaches her she teleports to her home bed not the bed in DG.

 

I had Calia following me and when entering the Whiterun DG a customer immediately approached her (must wanted some fresh meat I guess).
She and the customer insta teleported to her bed in Riverwood rather than a random spot in DG.

[ruddycray]

41 minutes ago, -alpha- said:

Hello~
Anyone know how to resolve, disable or prevent this from happening?
When walking into a DG with a working girl as a follower.
When a customer auto approaches her she teleports to her home bed not the bed in DG.

 

I had Calia following me and when entering the Whiterun DG a customer immediately approached her (must wanted some fresh meat I guess).
She and the customer insta teleported to her bed in Riverwood rather than a random spot in DG.

 

The beds they use are linked references, I believe. I don't really have any support for them traveling from their home towns. You'd have to mess with the scripts to get her not to do that. Naturally that's unsupported (meaning if you break something doing that or it doesn't work anymore after an update you're on your own).

[-alpha-]

4 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

The beds they use are linked references, I believe. I don't really have any support for them traveling from their home towns. You'd have to mess with the scripts to get her not to do that. Naturally that's unsupported (meaning if you break something doing that or it doesn't work anymore after an update you're on your own).

Yep all good, I know this will be a do at your own risk kinda thing.
Shes clearly not meant to be a follower but after starting a new playthougth I wanted to keep my riverwood buddy with me for a little while longer.
 

[zb123thecat]

Hi, I got the licence in Riften via Benjen and whenever I start working in the Inn and solicit a client, it is Benjen that ends up having sex with the client instead of my PC. what might be going on here?

[nukacola1989]

I absolutely love this mod! Been using it for a long while now, and am still finding new features and things. I got a book as a reward for doing a quest for the lady at the Sleeping Giant Inn in Riverwood. Looking in the console, it appears that this book is related to a quest focusing on the books, but I don't have any dialogue options to start said quest. Is this an unfinished quest for now, or am I experiencing a bug of some sort? 

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

13 minutes ago, nukacola1989 said:

I absolutely love this mod! Been using it for a long while now, and am still finding new features and things. I got a book as a reward for doing a quest for the lady at the Sleeping Giant Inn in Riverwood. Looking in the console, it appears that this book is related to a quest focusing on the books, but I don't have any dialogue options to start said quest. Is this an unfinished quest for now, or am I experiencing a bug of some sort? 

I have also been wondering about the significance of the books.

[ruddycray]

8 hours ago, nukacola1989 said:

I absolutely love this mod! Been using it for a long while now, and am still finding new features and things. I got a book as a reward for doing a quest for the lady at the Sleeping Giant Inn in Riverwood. Looking in the console, it appears that this book is related to a quest focusing on the books, but I don't have any dialogue options to start said quest. Is this an unfinished quest for now, or am I experiencing a bug of some sort? 

 

Glad to hear you're enjoying it! There are no further quest in that quest line yet. There may be a partially implemented quest, but you can't start it through normal gameplay.

[nukacola1989]

2 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

Glad to hear you're enjoying it! There are no further quest in that quest line yet. There may be a partially implemented quest, but you can't start it through normal gameplay.

Gotcha! Thanks for confirming that! Hope to see an update on this mod soon, it's great work! 

[ruddycray]

On 2/10/2023 at 3:09 AM, zb123thecat said:

Hi, I got the licence in Riften via Benjen and whenever I start working in the Inn and solicit a client, it is Benjen that ends up having sex with the client instead of my PC. what might be going on here?

 

I can honestly say I've never seen that happen before. Your logs could be informative on that one.

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

So I finally got to Solsthiem and was surprised to see that there apparently isn't any support there. I was able to have my character solicit sex from the boat captain that takes you there, he agreed, and my character and the captain did their thing in the abandoned house, but it never said I owed anything afterwords and I noticed that there did not appear to be any dialog to get a license in Solstheim, so I guess for the time being it's a free for all there? I did notice you could ask the innkeeper to sell your services there, but that's about it.

 

Is anything planned for Solstheim in the future? Maybe turn the abandoned building into a brothel or that run down farm house on the outskirts of town?

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

So I finally got to Solsthiem and was surprised to see that there apparently isn't any support there. I was able to have my character solicit sex from the boat captain that takes you there, he agreed, and my character and the captain did their thing in the abandoned house, but it never said I owed anything afterwords and I noticed that there did not appear to be any dialog to get a license in Solstheim, so I guess for the time being it's a free for all there? I did notice you could ask the innkeeper to sell your services there, but that's about it.

 

Is anything planned for Solstheim in the future? Maybe turn the abandoned building into a brothel or that run down farm house on the outskirts of town?

 

A license is not required in Solstheim. As they say in the game, it's Morrowind, not Skyrim . I do have a few plans for things to happen there, and there is a prostitute there already. I don't really have major plans, but I didn't forget about it.

[Rattlesnark]

On 2/6/2023 at 2:52 PM, ruddycray said:

 

1. I think it's that you have to be in Riften, working for Benjen, and have earned 3000 gold working as a prostitute since you started working for him. The cut you have to pay him still counts as "earnings", so if someone pays you 50 gold and your cut to Benjen is 20 gold, you will have 50 gold of earnings even though you only keep 30. Also, Tythis Ulen must be alive, and Elyssa or Phylawen must still be one of Benjen's companions (so if you kill them both then the quest won't ever start).

Price of Love:
Thanks, appreciate the info! I'd just gotten to 3010 "total lifetime earned" for Benjen (as per TAP MCM), and now am curious to how to actually trigger the quest start.
Tried speaking to Tythis, Elyssa & Phylawen, and Benjen - they don't seem to have anything for me just yet?
I did just do the Nightime Cave special job though - and if it means anything, I'm playing the LE port by @killer905 

So if you might bear with me - what do I look for now exactly to start the quest?


 

Edited February 19, 2023 by Rattlesnark

[ruddycray]

50 minutes ago, Rattlesnark said:

Price of Love:
Thanks, appreciate the info! I'd just gotten to 3010 "total lifetime earned" for Benjen (as per TAP MCM), and now am curious to how to actually trigger the quest start.
Tried speaking to Tythis, Elyssa & Phylawen, and Benjen - they don't seem to have anything for me just yet?
I did just do the Nightime Cave special job though - and if it means anything, I'm playing the LE port by @killer905 

So if you might bear with me - what do I look for now exactly to start the quest?


 

The quest is triggered on entering Riften when the conditions have been met. Tythis should come up to you somewhere in town and force greet you. I don't remember right now if it has to be outside or a certain time of day or anything. He should ask you if you work for Benjen. I might have to look at it a little more to tell you exactly what to expect.

[killer905]

8 hours ago, Rattlesnark said:

Price of Love:
Thanks, appreciate the info! I'd just gotten to 3010 "total lifetime earned" for Benjen (as per TAP MCM), and now am curious to how to actually trigger the quest start.
Tried speaking to Tythis, Elyssa & Phylawen, and Benjen - they don't seem to have anything for me just yet?
I did just do the Nightime Cave special job though - and if it means anything, I'm playing the LE port by @killer905 

So if you might bear with me - what do I look for now exactly to start the quest?


 

The mentioned quest on the LE Port works without problems.

[Rattlesnark]

On 2/19/2023 at 3:42 PM, ruddycray said:

The quest is triggered on entering Riften when the conditions have been met. Tythis should come up to you somewhere in town and force greet you. I don't remember right now if it has to be outside or a certain time of day or anything. He should ask you if you work for Benjen. I might have to look at it a little more to tell you exactly what to expect.

 

I've put in a moment to look at the mod plugin in CK and eventually xEdit, the latter of which is where I've found the set of "Conditions" related to the TAPQTythisInLove quest (attached screenshot for visual reference)

 

As far as I can tell, I've got all the listed Conditions fulfilled - which line up with the requirements you'd mentioned before. Still nothing from ole' Tythis as I go in and around Riften.
 

Thought to give startquest and setstage commands a try to force-trigger it, but the commands seem to have run successful albeit with no effect on actually starting the quest.

 

Anywho - I'm going to chalk this up to possibly being a mod conflict or something else having gone awry, understanding that it could very well be anything at all having caused problems with the start trigger. Hope I can check this quest out at some point in the future, perhaps on another playthrough.

 

Thanks for the time nonetheless, ruddycray!

Edited February 22, 2023 by Rattlesnark

[Verencius]

are ghosts in the swamp supposed to do anything? The quest does not progress past this point and the ghost are just fornicating there. 

[ruddycray]

8 hours ago, Rattlesnark said:

 

I've put in a moment to look at the mod plugin in CK and eventually xEdit, the latter of which is where I've found the set of "Conditions" related to the TAPQTythisInLove quest (attached screenshot for visual reference)

 

As far as I can tell, I've got all the listed Conditions fulfilled - which line up with the requirements you'd mentioned before. Still nothing from ole' Tythis as I go in and around Riften.
 

Thought to give startquest and setstage commands a try to force-trigger it, but the commands seem to have run successful albeit with no effect on actually starting the quest.

 

Anywho - I'm going to chalk this up to possibly being a mod conflict or something else having gone awry, understanding that it could very well be anything at all having caused problems with the start trigger. Hope I can check this quest out at some point in the future, perhaps on another playthrough.

 

Thanks for the time nonetheless, ruddycray!

 

If you manually startquest or setstage and the quest still doesn't show as running with sqv, then something is blocking one of the quest aliases from filling properly and keeping the quest from starting.

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, Verencius said:

are ghosts in the swamp supposed to do anything? The quest does not progress past this point and the ghost are just fornicating there. 

 

You should have gotten an objective to ask around town about them or something like that.

[soumyapal]

is 'The Fabric of Family' Quest complete? exhausted all the dialog option with all 3 NPCs, the optional objective of finding more about Tlatha's situation from the siblings or the main objective of talking with Tlatha about her father does not update. am i missing something here?

 

great mod BTW. wish there were more special quests in the brothel.

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, soumyapal said:

is 'The Fabric of Family' Quest complete? exhausted all the dialog option with all 3 NPCs, the optional objective of finding more about Tlatha's situation from the siblings or the main objective of talking with Tlatha about her father does not update. am i missing something here?

 

great mod BTW. wish there were more special quests in the brothel.

 

It is. There are several ways to advance the quest:

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1. You can convince Kovan to discuss the demands of Tlatha's father more. This is easier if you have entertained him at Dibella's Garden.

2. You can convince Tlatha to lie about changing her ways.

3. You can convince Tlatha not to go home.

4. You can convince Tlatha to change her ways.

5. I think you can convince Tlatha to go home as she is.

6. You can pickpocket a letter from Tlatha's father from Fathasa.

 

[killer905]

"Haafingar Dibellan garden" may be a problem on my side, but I prefer to report it:

 

In this corner wall and flying candle.

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[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, killer905 said:

"Haafingar Dibellan garden" may be a problem on my side, but I prefer to report it:

 

In this corner wall and flying candle.

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I see the floating candle, and that will be fixed for the upcoming release.

 

I don't see that gap in the wall in my Creation Kit.

Spoiler

 

[killer905]

5 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I see the floating candle, and that will be fixed for the upcoming release.

 

I don't see that gap in the wall in my Creation Kit.

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Maybe check in game how looks there for you.

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, killer905 said:

Maybe check in game how looks there for you.

 

Got it. You have to look it at from almost directly in front to see it, but it is there.