(v1.5.1) Mod Organizer 2 & Other tools - From zero to "Hey Sexlab is working!"

[paultergise]

On 5/28/2023 at 10:42 AM, Just Don't said:

Anything you install on top of a collection/WJ modlist is on you. You'll have to confirm the install and set up process is correct, amend loadorder and patches if needed and so on. Also, collections are a Vortex thing, right? This guide isn't for Vortex really. You could take the mods and try to install and configure them in a similar way to what's shown here but everything else won't apply to Vortex.

 

You can have as many instances of a modded game with MO2, no idea about Vortex. And I wouldn't recommend mixing Vortex and MO2 even if you're trying to mod separate versions of the game with them.

thx for the reply!!

[kiddie24]

yep its working perfectly fine for me.
i even have potato pc and its just work fine.
(mobo b450 with Ryzen 5 first series , i use RX550 for gpu, and 8RAM memory)

i use MO2 , Nemesis, and FNIS XXL just fine.

if you guys have SE/AE 1.6
i recommend to downgrade to SE 1.5.97, most of mods work around this version, and have tons of stability mods that will help reduce the ctd and boost your FPS.

 

how to downgrade ? i follow the tutorial from GamerPoets on Youtube. cuz his tutorial include revert back from SE 1.5 to AE

i also follow this Animation guide if you using NEMESIS and FNIS XXL for the animation.

just be sure to read and follow step by step.

Edited July 4, 2023 by kiddie24
adding some link for easy access

[Guest]

Working perfectly, thank you so much.

 

I tried to mod Skyrim SE before this guide, but never as stable as with this ?

[wwwpersonwww]

Hi, I just followed the whole guide and I no longer get that sexlab does not work, now it simply does not work and does not warn me. When I go to mods configuration I get that it has not been installed and that I have to click here to update it when I have already downloaded the newest version. Does anyone know what to do to fix it?

The screenshot is in Spanish as it is my native language and I do not know how to change it, sorry.

 

And this Is what I have in my MO2
(Some of them appear in red because it says that there is a new version, but when I enter Nexxus or Loverslab it appears that the one I have downloaded is the new one.

Edited July 15, 2023 by wwwpersonwww

[Just Don't]

55 minutes ago, wwwpersonwww said:

Does anyone know what to do to fix it?

Which version of the game do you have? I see you're trying to use SL 1.63 which is for 1.5.97, but you also have Address Library for Anniversary Edition. That won't work. I think I went the extra mile already explaining how to check which version of the game you have and which mods you need for each one. Double check that.

[wwwpersonwww]

3 minutes ago, Just Don't said:

Which version of the game do you have? I see you're trying to use SL 1.63 which is for 1.5.97, but you also have Address Library for Anniversary Edition. That won't work. I think I went the extra mile already explaining how to check which version of the game you have and which mods you need for each one. Double check that.

I have steam version SE (1.6.640). Should I change the ALL IN ONE for the SE?

[Just Don't]

On 7/2/2023 at 10:42 PM, kiddie24 said:

yep its working perfectly fine for me.
i even have potato pc and its just work fine.

Good to know. The mods covered shouldn't impact performance that much, or at all even (I can only think of the initial in game setup or animation start for even where the game could slow down a bit). So if your computer can run the game itself you can totally use all the mods in there (maybe avoid SMP on all actors at all times around, specially if you're using preconfigured settings).

The downgrade procedure you mention is mentioned in the guide too, although I leave instructions for that tool's mod page. I personally wouldn't downgrade at this point. Specially if you're new to Skyrim mods and don't rely on old mods pre-1.6 versions. Keeping an old version is only going to be more difficult as new mods are released.

 

On 7/13/2023 at 12:05 PM, DarkVermilion said:

Working perfectly, thank you so much.

 

I tried to mod Skyrim SE before this guide, but never as stable as with this ?

You're welcome. The things covered should work as intended from the get-to. As you add more mods you should keep your modlist and loadorder in line as well as confirm you're following the new mods' instructions and requirements.

[Just Don't]

4 minutes ago, wwwpersonwww said:

I have steam version SE (1.6.640).

You shouldn't be using SL 1.63 then. It's in both the guide and the download page for the Sexlab Framework.

 

4 minutes ago, wwwpersonwww said:

Should I change the ALL IN ONE for the SE?

If check the description for Address Library you'll see the SE one is not made for 1.6.640.

 

Your issue is using the incorrect version of Sexlab framework, and possibly other mods. The guide has color coded comments for mods that require a specific game version. Double check you got the correct version for all these mods and files.

Edited July 15, 2023 by Just Don't

[wwwpersonwww]

28 minutes ago, Just Don't said:

You shouldn't be using SL 1.63 then. It's in both the guide and the download page for the Sexlab Framework.

Now I just have a little problem, do you know if these two files are important? and if they are, should they be inside the required files marked in the guide you made or are they opcional?
 

Edited July 15, 2023 by wwwpersonwww

[Just Don't]

39 minutes ago, wwwpersonwww said:

Now I just have a little problem, do you know if these two files are important? and if they are, should they be inside the required files marked in the guide you made or are they opcional?

[gerkesiz]

On 7/3/2023 at 5:42 AM, kiddie24 said:

yep its working perfectly fine for me.
i even have potato pc and its just work fine.
(mobo b450 with Ryzen 5 first series , i use RX550 for gpu, and 8RAM memory)

i use MO2 , Nemesis, and FNIS XXL just fine.

if you guys have SE/AE 1.6
i recommend to downgrade to SE 1.5.97, most of mods work around this version, and have tons of stability mods that will help reduce the ctd and boost your FPS.

 

how to downgrade ? i follow the tutorial from GamerPoets on Youtube. cuz his tutorial include revert back from SE 1.5 to AE

i also follow this Animation guide if you using NEMESIS and FNIS XXL for the animation.

just be sure to read and follow step by step.

This will be my first time trying adult modes. Which mods should I definitely install? I'm thinking of installing as many animation mods and physics mods as possible.

[Just Don't]

[kiddie24]

On 9/27/2023 at 1:27 AM, gerkesiz said:

This will be my first time trying adult modes. Which mods should I definitely install? I'm thinking of installing as many animation mods and physics mods as possible.

whatever your fantasy desire man ?

useful link : SE compability tracking

[gerkesiz]

16 hours ago, kiddie24 said:

whatever your fantasy desire man ?

useful link : SE compability tracking

Are there any incompatibility problems? Are most of the mods compatible with each other? Because there could be compatibility problems in "normal" modes. And does it make sense to install all the animation mods I can find? Like Fnis, for example.

[Just Don't]

That's really vague. It depends on the mods in particular. Of course there will be overlaps and conflicts between hundreds of mods. Even if all of them are designed around the same framework.

Best way you can do this is checking each mod you find interesting, read the description and a few comments to see what's the general state of the mod, check its requirements and see if you want to use it. If you do test it in game and see if you like it in play. Do that for each mod you want to try, and consider the mods you already have installed to see if there are some conflicts, overlaps or potential integration in there.

I didn't made a list of recommended mods for each type of mod you can find here in LL because there's a lot to cover and there's not way to tell what each person wants in their games. That's one of the things only you can figure out.

[gerkesiz]

On 9/30/2023 at 4:31 AM, Just Don't said:

That's really vague. It depends on the mods in particular. Of course there will be overlaps and conflicts between hundreds of mods. Even if all of them are designed around the same framework.

Best way you can do this is checking each mod you find interesting, read the description and a few comments to see what's the general state of the mod, check its requirements and see if you want to use it. If you do test it in game and see if you like it in play. Do that for each mod you want to try, and consider the mods you already have installed to see if there are some conflicts, overlaps or potential integration in there.

I didn't made a list of recommended mods for each type of mod you can find here in LL because there's a lot to cover and there's not way to tell what each person wants in their games. That's one of the things only you can figure out.

it will be a long journey  

20x30=600 mods maybe 100 mods bug fixes and I haven't even looked at the LL mods yet, I just added a few adult mods on the nexus and the side mods needed for this mods. It will probably take me weeks, maybe a month to download, install and check compatibility.

[kocu87]

hey man, first of all thanks for your guide! love it! you are doing something for noob like me to be able to play, the thing is in this game, all this needs patience and lots of trial and errors, and since im noob in this, if i face problems with CTD or Freeze after installing or removing mods midplaythrough, i come with conclusions that i need to completely re-install it again which i did several times already, because i never made any backups for the original files of both original & DLC (and that is IMPORTANT!) , is there any way to workaround this? like i could just completely removes all the saves and data to make it fresh again without backups? oh and here is some facts that i know, yesterday i was completely puzzled with CTD after pressing esc , the mod that cause this is skyui-flashfix save, turns out i just need to update my MO2 to make it works again, and im not sure why but the CTD gone..is there some reason that we need to update our mod managers as well? thanks a lot man! 

[Just Don't]

1 hour ago, kocu87 said:

if i face problems with CTD or Freeze after installing or removing mods midplaythrough, i come with conclusions that i need to completely re-install it again which i did several times already, because i never made any backups for the original files of both original & DLC (and that is IMPORTANT!) , is there any way to workaround this? like i could just completely removes all the saves and data to make it fresh again without backups?

There is a reason for recommending to avoid changing too much about your mods once you're set on a save. It surely can be done, but it requires extra effort and knowledge to ensure nothing is lost or left behind in a way that affects your saves.

And no, you shouldn't need to worry about backups. Especially if you're using MO2. For starters you can get a clean copy of the game files at any time (as long as you have access to Internet), simply reinstall the game or verify game files on Steam. And the highlight of MO2 is that it leaves you original game files alone, installing most of your files in a separate folder. Uninstalling the game and removing your saves is something you should do at the start of the guide to ensure you're starting from a clean game, and maybe once every few years if you really want to do a fresh reinstall of everything once in a while.

 

1 hour ago, kocu87 said:

oh and here is some facts that i know, yesterday i was completely puzzled with CTD after pressing esc , the mod that cause this is skyui-flashfix save, turns out i just need to update my MO2 to make it works again, and im not sure why but the CTD gone..is there some reason that we need to update our mod managers as well?

I doubt the MO2 update had anything to do with your crash happening or stopping. Unless you track the crash consistently to one mod or file it's really hard to determine what's really going on. And to do this you need to a) get the crash logger mentioned near the end of the guide, b) collect a few crash logs by reproducing the crashing as consistently as possible, and c) interpret the log hopefully finding a common thread to follow.

Edited November 28, 2023 by Just Don't

[kocu87]

3 hours ago, Just Don't said:

I doubt the MO2 update had anything to do with your crash happening or stopping. Unless you track the crash consistently to one mod or file it's really hard to determine what's really going on. And to do this you need to a) get the crash logger mentioned near the end of the guide, b) collect a few crash logs by reproducing the crashing as consistently as possible, and c) interpret the log hopefully finding a common thread to follow.

 

i know right?? it wasn't supposed to be like that, couple years ago i played FO4 with heavily modded, if CTD happened, the main culprit is either its bad install or load order or removing mods never because of not updating the manager, so i went back to skyui_fixflashgame forum and there was a couple people who had the same issue recently too, because i was just using it fine before i clean reinstall because i messed up my game (before i saw this guide) , so i follow your guide step by step, and test-run it 1 by 1 after i installed starting from skse, when it reach skyui its fine, but when i enable fixflashgame that one caused it (no other mods installed), even the author cant explained it, then i randomly tried to update MO, and when its done even with the fix i can press the esc again, that relieves me but also leave me puzzled LOL. all in all now its working just fine but mostly because of your guide, so thanks man! 

 

 

[vedixsz]

Hi, has this guide been updated to work with the current build? Everything in the guide is still relevant?

[Just Don't]

1 hour ago, vedixsz said:

Hi, has this guide been updated to work with the current build? Everything in the guide is still relevant?

The guide is version agnostic because you should learn to check your game version, spot the mods requiring specific versions and then get the proper files for your game. If anything I'll update the guide to remove mentions of older versions and maybe change a link or two to use more recent alternatives.

 

Only thing to note is that I absolutely don't recommend to stick with the current 1.6.1130 version. It doesn't has full mod support, it has broken Steam integration (which causes issues on its own without even needing mods in the way) and it will likely be updated again. If you had to install the game after December 5 downgrade to 1.6.640 and avoid automatic updates.

[vedixsz]

On 12/27/2023 at 2:22 PM, Just Don't said:

The guide is version agnostic because you should learn to check your game version, spot the mods requiring specific versions and then get the proper files for your game. If anything I'll update the guide to remove mentions of older versions and maybe change a link or two to use more recent alternatives.

 

Only thing to note is that I absolutely don't recommend to stick with the current 1.6.1130 version. It doesn't has full mod support, it has broken Steam integration (which causes issues on its own without even needing mods in the way) and it will likely be updated again. If you had to install the game after December 5 downgrade to 1.6.640 and avoid automatic updates.

I'm currently using the guide as really a beginner (having only modded once before like two or so years ago and failing at it) and it seems that it kind of works but you are right in that you have to be very careful when picking versions. I'm also trying to be smart about and skip mods that haven't been updated in years even if your guide mentions it and instead opting for other ones.

 

It's the guide I found the easiest to follow actually but It would be great if it was updated for sure.

[Just Don't]

11 minutes ago, vedixsz said:

and it seems that it kind of works but you are right in that you have to be very careful when picking versions

For mods that need a specific SKSE/exe version. Yes. That's the whole point of learning to identify these type of mods and how to get the correct versions.

 

11 minutes ago, vedixsz said:

I'm also trying to be smart about and skip mods that haven't been updated in years even if your guide mentions it and instead opting for other ones.

This isn't the way really. If a mod doesn't need to be constantly updated you don't need to worry about it being a few years old. How do you know which mods don't need to be constantly updated? By learning to identify these type of mods. Which you should do if you follow the guide along.

If you know and are 100% sure you can replace a mod with another alternative, by all means go ahead and do it. But don't consider mods being obsolete because they haven't been updated in X number of years.

 

11 minutes ago, vedixsz said:

It's the guide I found the easiest to follow actually but It would be great if it was updated for sure.

If I provided direct links to exact versions and keep mentioning specific versions (which I partially did in the previous versions to keep things clear about the 1.5.97 and 1.6+ versions) the guide would get old really fast. A new Steam update comes out, the guide is obsolete. A new SKSE is released, obsolete. A new version of any of the mod is updated, obsolete. It would also go against the main goal which is teaching how to install mods correctly, it'd just become a spoon-feeding fest where people click the download links without any consideration for learning anything.
 

Edited December 30, 2023 by Just Don't

[wayandean]

I accidentally opened the game direct from steam which caused the game to update to the latest AE edition, now all my mods will be messed up and the game wont even load. So how do i roll back the update without having to reinstall every mod again???

I was on version 1.5.97.0

 

Can I just use the Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Downgrade Patcher https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57618/?tab=posts

 

Edited January 25, 2024 by wayandean
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[Just Don't]

Yes, the downgrade patcher should work (although I haven't used it in a couple of years now and maybe there's some additional quirks since the last time, check instructions/comments from that modpage for more info).

Another option is to use the steam console to download the 1.5.97 depots. Instructions are all over the internet really so any google search should give you the instructions needed for that.