Save Kasumi Nakano!

[VonHelton]

I want to save Kasumi. But I also want to expose the Captain as a synth, and destroy Arcadia.

 

Unfortunately, you can't do both. So, I dove into CK, to see if I could fix it.

 

Sadly, my "Script-Fu" is NOT up to the task. Kasumi has more junctions attached to her quest than John Deere has tractors!

 

I want to send her home BEFORE Allen Lee or the Brotherhood of Steel arrive.

 

I tried removing her "Arcadia" faction, but it was no help. She stupidly stays there, in the line of fire, and dies.

 

(Yes, the game LITERALLY takes her from the 3rd floor where she's safe (!!!) to the first floor so she can be killed......(!!!!))

 

(I suspect there might even be 2 Kasumi's........The reason I say this is because in CK, she's listed essential......Yet, she's easily killed in the attack on Arcadia)

 

 

 

[Seijin8]

21 minutes ago, VonHelton said:

I want to save Kasumi. But I also want to expose the Captain as a synth, and destroy Arcadia.

 

Unfortunately, you can't do both. So, I dove into CK, to see if I could fix it.

 

Sadly, my "Script-Fu" is NOT up to the task. Kasumi has more junctions attached to her quest than John Deere has tractors!

 

I want to send her home BEFORE Allen Lee or the Brotherhood of Steel arrive.

 

I tried removing her "Arcadia" faction, but it was no help. She stupidly stays there, in the line of fire, and dies.

 

(Yes, the game LITERALLY takes her from the 3rd floor where she's safe (!!!) to the first floor so she can be killed......(!!!!))

 

(I suspect there might even be 2 Kasumi's........The reason I say this is because in CK, she's listed essential......Yet, she's easily killed in the attack on Arcadia)

 

 

 

Take this with a grain of salt, I don't really play FO4, have no idea who you are talking about, etc.

 

BUT: I know my way around Bethesda modding.

 

Best course of action is to make a copy of her for your personal use.  If the game has her intentionally die, then there isn't going to be a safe workaround that doesn't (potentially) cause a cascade of issues later.

 

You can use the console and use player.placeatme with her reference ID and voila, she'll be back (sort of).  This version will probably retain her basic behaviors (which may or may not look out of place now, depending on factors related to location, scene and anything she links up to in terms of references who may also be dead).

 

As long as you can put up with the occasional oddity caused by the real Kasumi being dead, this should otherwise suffice.

[VonHelton]

4 hours ago, Seijin8 said:

Take this with a grain of salt, I don't really play FO4, have no idea who you are talking about, etc.

 

BUT: I know my way around Bethesda modding.

 

Best course of action is to make a copy of her for your personal use.  If the game has her intentionally die, then there isn't going to be a safe workaround that doesn't (potentially) cause a cascade of issues later.

 

You can use the console and use player.placeatme with her reference ID and voila, she'll be back (sort of).  This version will probably retain her basic behaviors (which may or may not look out of place now, depending on factors related to location, scene and anything she links up to in terms of references who may also be dead).

 

As long as you can put up with the occasional oddity caused by the real Kasumi being dead, this should otherwise suffice.

Already tried that. Kenji totally ignores the copy & the mission won't complete.

 

[VonHelton]

3 hours ago, Konata Inoue said:

I recall completing the quest peacefully, including with the COA so all the factions are still alive, and by the end of it Kasumi went home. 
You can't send them in at the end?

No. Once you pick the peaceful route, BOS goes back home & there's no dialogue to get Allen Lee to attack Arcadia.

 

It's very frustrating........

 

 

 

[Seijin8]

1 hour ago, VonHelton said:

Already tried that. Kenji totally ignores the copy & the mission won't complete.

I meant to do so well after the scene in question.

[mashup47]

@VonHelton

Try this : https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16197/ .

[VonHelton]

6 hours ago, mashup47 said:

@VonHelton

Try this : https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16197/ .

Ok, many are saying in the comments that this is the peaceful option, and that the mod isn't even necessary.

 

But what they DO say, is that I'm contacting the BOS too early, I need to wait until after I do all the Far Harbor side quests & get Allen Lee to calm down, THEN I can launch an offensive with the BOS.

 

(Pretty sure I tried that, but I'll try again)

 

 

 

[Vuulgar]

No idea if this is a dumb idea but can you recruit her as a follower with something like Unlimited Follower Framework? Timing would be key if its possible.

[mashup47]

3 hours ago, Vuulgar said:

No idea if this is a dumb idea but can you recruit her as a follower with something like Unlimited Follower Framework? Timing would be key if its possible.

I think that would break her quest..

[murf]

Another dumb idea here have you tried marking her with Just Business? In theory she should hit bleed-out state and be replaced with a doppelganger that you "might" be able to save.

[VonHelton]

14 hours ago, Vuulgar said:

No idea if this is a dumb idea but can you recruit her as a follower with something like Unlimited Follower Framework? Timing would be key if its possible.

One of the first things I tried.......It broke her quest, & Kenji didn't recognize her.

 

 

 

[VonHelton]

6 hours ago, murf said:

Another dumb idea here have you tried marking her with Just Business? In theory she should hit bleed-out state and be replaced with a doppelganger that you "might" be able to save.

This is risky. She's marked as essential in CK, but she dies if Arcadia is attacked. So I'm not sure that'd help, TBH........

 

[VonHelton]

Ok, I played the peaceful........I had Dima to confess to the murder. 

 

I played all the "Help Far Harbor" missions. (Make sure you play the Captain's Dance & at least Mitch's mission!)

 

 Unfortunately, Dima doesn't identify Captain Avery as a synth. Also, as I feared, when you send Kasumi home, the option to talk to the BOS disappears.

 

Captain Avery must die if you intend on blowing up the Nucleus. She will ask you to leave the island if you do.

 

YOU CANNOT TALK TO THE BOS ABOUT ARCADIA IF YOU SEND KASUMI HOME.

 

I don't know why some are saying you can.

 

.......So the peaceful option is total bullshit if you play scorched earth, as I do.

 

So.......I still need a mod that kills Avery & the dude with glasses, while also allowing me to blow up the Nucleus, assault Arcadia, and also saving Kasumi.

 

 

 

[cailic]

On 1/10/2020 at 4:02 AM, VonHelton said:

 

So.......I still need a mod that kills Avery & the dude with glasses, while also allowing me to blow up the Nucleus, assault Arcadia, and also saving Kasumi.

 

 

 

Bethesda must very proud of their story line, the way made nearly impossible to play it in any way other than their way.  There was some character that I wanted as a follower but goes away after a quest or something like that.  It was impossible for me to get her back.  Since then, I've seen mods that may fix that. 

 

Anyway, the killing should be, in theory, simple.  Use the console to make them non-essential and then kill them.  Although, I have a gut feeling Bethesda won't allow this either.  I've only gone through those quests shortly after the DLC was released, so I don't remember a whole lot about it. 

 

This may not help at all.  So sad.   That's the way Bethesda crumbles. 

[VonHelton]

3 hours ago, cailic said:

Bethesda must very proud of their story line, the way made nearly impossible to play it in any way other than their way.  There was some character that I wanted as a follower but goes away after a quest or something like that.  It was impossible for me to get her back.  Since then, I've seen mods that may fix that. 

 

Anyway, the killing should be, in theory, simple.  Use the console to make them non-essential and then kill them.  Although, I have a gut feeling Bethesda won't allow this either.  I've only gone through those quests shortly after the DLC was released, so I don't remember a whole lot about it. 

 

This may not help at all.  So sad.   That's the way Bethesda crumbles. 

There's a console command "kill", but if I use it, it'll probably aggro the people of Far Harbor.

 

[cailic]

49 minutes ago, VonHelton said:

There's a console command "kill", but if I use it, it'll probably aggro the people of Far Harbor.

 

I don't know.  Sounds kinda fun though. 

 

uh... ya,  I just finished watching Joker, so ya, mass mayhem sounds kinda cool right now. 

[VonHelton]

7 hours ago, cailic said:

I don't know.  Sounds kinda fun though. 

 

uh... ya,  I just finished watching Joker, so ya, mass mayhem sounds kinda cool right now. 

The new Joker movie that just came out? I've heard mixed reviews.

 

 

 

[izzyknows]

I've done this a couple times, by using setstage on Close to home... buuut... I can't remember the stages, since there's 3 options.

 

Kasumi is scripted to remove the essential flag during the attack on Acadia, like wise the named NPC's of Far Harbor are flagged as essential.

[cailic]

7 hours ago, VonHelton said:

The new Joker movie that just came out? I've heard mixed reviews.

 

 

 

Ya.  Mixed would be expected.  I was led to believe it was an intellectual movie that was too deep for most people to get.  Well, it's not deep at all.  It a simplistic background story of why the Joker is the Joker.  That said, it wasn't bad.  I doubt I would watch it again.  It's a story, not an action film.  The one thing I have to say negatively about it, the Joker should have been made to look younger.  They introduce Bruce Wayne as a kid.  By the time Batman would come around, the Joker would be using a walker.  Towards the end, he started acting a bit like the Joker we all know and love.  Kinda made me warm and giddy inside for a little mass chaos.  

[VonHelton]

17 hours ago, izzyknows said:

I've done this a couple times, by using setstage on Close to home... buuut... I can't remember the stages, since there's 3 options.

 

Kasumi is scripted to remove the essential flag during the attack on Acadia, like wise the named NPC's of Far Harbor are flagged as essential.

If I could remove that script & also remove her Arcadia faction, she shouldn't aggro, nor die during the attack on Arcadia. I can then (in theory) talk to her & get her to go home.

 

[izzyknows]

Problem is, even if she survives and you get her to go home, her dialogue is hostile to the PC.

You could complete Close to Home normally, which releases her from all quests, then launch Forbidden Knowledge or Search & Destroy... or.. make a bat file to remove the essential flag from the named Synths and start exploding heads. LOL

 

Then shut down the wind turbines and blow up the Nucleus.

 

If you're running Better Console, you can get the faction numbers and a bunch of other stuff by hitting the Ctrl key..
 

[VonHelton]

2 hours ago, izzyknows said:

Problem is, even if she survives and you get her to go home, her dialogue is hostile to the PC.

You could complete Close to Home normally, which releases her from all quests, then launch Forbidden Knowledge or Search & Destroy... or.. make a bat file to remove the essential flag from the named Synths and start exploding heads. LOL

 

Then shut down the wind turbines and blow up the Nucleus.

 

If you're running Better Console, you can get the faction numbers and a bunch of other stuff by hitting the Ctrl key..
 

HOLY SHIT YER A GENIUS!

 

........I'll be right back, I think I know a way to get Allen Lee to kill Captain Avery after the fact!

 

(By the gods, I hope this works!)

 

 

 

[SAC]

On 1/14/2020 at 12:17 PM, VonHelton said:

There's a console command "kill", but if I use it, it'll probably aggro the people of Far Harbor.

 

 

killsilent does not identify you as killer

 

[VonHelton]

3 hours ago, SAC said:

 

killsilent does not identify you as killer

 

I'll try that if the other don't work........