Female werewolves disappear during sex animations

[shar181]

Just as the title says, I'm having this issue with my female PC in her beast form. When she engages in lewd stuff, usually after knocking someone down with Defeat, she will begin the animation normally but after a few seconds she'll vanish. The animation continues to play (that is, the other person is still visible and humping the air or whatever), and when the lewding ends my character reappears as if nothing has happened. Well, almost like nothing is happened; for a few seconds after she reappears, she'll be using the default werewolf model rather than the one from MNC.

 

My theory is that the Creature Framework is attempting to replace the female werewolf model with an "erect" version. You know, just like a male werewolf will normally use a mesh with a "soft" dick, and then when sex happens its replaced with an "erect" mesh, to simulate a dynamic dick. Only in the case of the female werewolf, there is no "erect" mesh, so the normal mesh just disappears until sex ends. The thing is that even if I'm right, I don't know how to fix it. As far as I can tell, the Creature Framework does not give you the option of excluding female creatures from this mesh swap.

 

I'm also not 100% sure about the cause; so far, I haven't seen other female creatures disappear during sex scenes. I'm using the La Femme Lycana model as the default mesh for my female werewolf, but in-game the Creature Framework replaces it with the mesh from More Nasty Critters. I have Herm Werewolves disabled.

 

If anyone has run into this before, I'd love to know how to fix it! :3

 

Here's my LO, copied from LOOT:

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  0  0 Skyrim.esm
  1  1 Update.esm
  2  2 Dawnguard.esm
  3  3 HearthFires.esm
  4  4 Dragonborn.esm
  5  5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6 RSkyrimChildren.esm
  7  7 EFFCore.esm
  8  8 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
  9  9 SexLab.esm
 10  a Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 11  b CreatureFramework.esm
 12  c SexLabAroused.esm
 13  d ApachiiHair.esm
 14  e Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 15  f GenderBender.esm
 16 10 BSAssets.esm
 17 11 BSHeartland.esm
 18 12 BS_DLC_patch.esp
 19 13 Campfire.esm
 20 14 Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 21 15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 22 16 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 23 17 daymoyl.esm
 24 18 MoreNastyCritters.esp
 25 19 RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp
 26 1a RSChildren.esp
 27 1b MilkModNEW.esp
 28 1c MilkModNEW CF.esp
 29 1d MilkModNEW HF.esp
 30 1e DBM_RSChildren.esp
 31 1f MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp
 32 20 FNIS.esp
 33 21 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
 34 22 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 35 23 Race Scale Remover.esp
 36 24 OrcFemaleAnimations.esp
 37 25 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
 38 26 SOS_Ho.esp
 39 27 RaceMenu.esp
 40 28 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 41 29 zzEstrus.esp
 42 2a CBBE.esp
 43 2b RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 44 2c Spank That Ass.esp
 45 2d DD_Helpers.esp
 46 2e LewdMarks.esp
 47 2f SINful CBP.esp
 48 30 MoonlightTalesMCM.esp
 49 31 XPMSE.esp
 50 32 SOSRaceMenu.esp
 51 33 SLSO_F_VP_The Girl Next Door.esp
 52 34 SLSO_F_VP_Maria.esp
 53 35 SLSO_F_VP_Eliz.esp
 54 36 SLSO.esp
 55 37 No NPC Greetings.esp
 56 38 CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp
 57 39 SkyUI_SE.esp
 58 3a SexlabLightMeUp.esp
 59 3b Cassandra Apocrypha CBBE SE.esp
 60 3c SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 61 3d SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 62 3e SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
 63 3f NibblesAnimObjects.esp
 64 40 sr_FillHerUp.esp
 65 41 SOS - Leito Addon.esp
 66 42 SexLabTools.esp
 67 43 SuperbSerana.esp
 68 44 YourMarketStall.esp
 69 45 Shars Signs - The Lover 10%.esp
 70 46 SexLab Enchantress.esp
 71 47 ArgonianFins.esp
 72 48 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
 73 49 LWPlayerHeadTracking.esp
 74 4a Bolt Vendors.esp
 75 4b BVFE.esp
 76 4c SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Addon.esp
 77 4d ImprovedNPCs.esp
 78 4e SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 79 4f SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 80 50 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 81 51 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 82 52 SOS - ERF - HighPoly Addon.esp
 83 53 SOS - ERF - HighPoly Equipable.esp
 84 54 SLAnimLoader.esp
 85 55 AnubAnimObj.esp
 86 56 SexLabDefeat.esp
 87 57 TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp
 88 58 SlaveTats.esp
 89 59 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
 90 5a DeviouslyHelpless.esp
 91 5b mslDeviousCaptures.esp
 92 5c Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp
 93 5d UIExtensions.esp
 94 5e NewmillerPiercings2.esp
 95 5f NewmillerPiercings3.esp
 96 60 ORM-Arvak.esp
 97 61 JRArcaneArcherPack.esp
 98 62 JRDwarvenMudcrabPatch.esp
 99 63 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
100 64 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
101 65 EstrusChaurus.esp
102 66 EstrusSpider.esp
103 67 ImprovedHearthfireLighting.esp
104 68 HentaiCreatures.esp
105 69 3DNPC.esp
106 6a MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp
107 6b Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
108 6c EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
109 6d Run For Your Lives.esp
110 6e Cloaks - No Imperial.esp
111 6f DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp
112 70 Frostfall.esp
113 71 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
114 72 SexLab-Parasites.esp
115 73 AnimatedParasites.esp
116 74 MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
117 75 BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp
118 76 Devious Cidhna.esp
119 77 Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
120 78 iNeed.esp
121 79 Bruma - iNeed Patch.esp
122 7a SexLab_Solutions.esp
123 7b TrueStormsSE.esp
124 7c EstrusTrappedEggs.esp
125 7d Cloaks - USSEEP Patch - No Imperial.esp
126 7e Cloaks - No Imperial - Dawnguard.esp
127 7f Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
128 80 EFFDialogue.esp
129 81 RSC 3DNPC Patch.esp
130 82 Predator Vision.esp
131 83 TimingIsEverything.esp
132 84 JRSpellPackPatch.esp
133 85 TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
134 86 SpousesEnhancedSE.esp
135 87 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
136 88 BecomeABard.esp
137 89 DeadlyDragons.esp
138 8a HornyCreatures.esp
139 8b Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
140 8c LaFemmeLycana.esp
141 8d 12FemaleBrows.esp
142 8e ERF - Ceraph.esp
143 8f SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon (All Styles).esp
144 90 -RestoredObjects.esp
145 91 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
146 92 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
147 93 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
148 94 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
149 95 ELFXEnhancer.esp
150 96 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
151 97 SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp

 

 

[MadMansGun]

6 minutes ago, shar181 said:

Moonlight Tales

causes problems with CF.

9 minutes ago, shar181 said:

LaFemmeLycana

conflicts with MNC and possibly Moonlight Tales.

[shar181]

5 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

causes problems with CF.

conflicts with MNC and possibly Moonlight Tales.

I have the Appearance options in MT disabled, so that is most likely not related. I'm also not sure how LaFemmeLycana could be the problem, since the Creature Framework replaces the default mesh anyway... but I'll try disabling that and see if it helps!

 

Edit: So I disabled La Femme Lycana and tried again. And the results are... weird. The first test I did was just on one of the dead bandits lying around (initiated with the Necrophilia option for Defeat). The animation played, the female werewolf remained visible, so I thought the issue was solved. To make sure, I summoned a Hentai Werewolf and transformed again, then initiated "training". This time, the female werewolf disappeared.

 

So I guess the issue is not fixed after all. x.x

[PanzerUndPanzer]

I know this is old, but I don't know how many people are still searching for this. This has troubled me for a bit. But my issue was fixed after disabling "Male Fallback" under CF. 

[shar181]

On 5/10/2022 at 9:36 AM, PanzerUndPanzer said:

I know this is old, but I don't know how many people are still searching for this. This has troubled me for a bit. But my issue was fixed after disabling "Male Fallback" under CF. 

 

I'd long since given up trying to find a solution for this, but I'll definitely give it a try!

 

Edit: Tested, and this fix definitely works. ^-^

Edited May 14, 2022 by shar181

[MagmaX959]

I've tried searching high and low for a solution, but I can't seem to find an answer to my problem. My female werewolves keep vanishing. I'll summon a Hentai Werewolf (female) to test, and shortly after being summoned, or shortly after a SexLab scene, she goes invisible. I've tried multiple combinations of HDT Werewolves, MNC, and Female Werewolves Extended, but no matter what I have overwriting the other, they always disappear. I have CF 3.0 and I don't seem to have the Male Fallback option. Does anyone else happen to know what might be causing my issue, or a fix? Is it just a conflict where overwriting isn't enough, and I need to delete the female werewolf textures from those mods, until only one is left?

I'm using Vortex and don't know how to copy my load order from there. Let me know if more information would help.

[MagmaX959]

Creature Framework was part of the problem, and the solution. Took two days to realize that re-installing the mods through the Creature Framework would solve the issue. Also found, through experiments, a mix of CF v3 and CF v1.1.0 that works, and gives the Male Fall back and Default Gender options (Which are part of version 1.1.0, which is why I did not have them initially), but you lose the ability to set arousal levels.