AAF HARDSHIP - beggar- whore -

[katrina.balanchuk]

12 minutes ago, izzyknows said:

Bunker hill

Thanks I'll check it out.

I skipped Raymond because he is too good-looking.

With Isabel thats ok since she is female and so her "job" is not really to be a sexual threat to me (despite her lesbian stuff)

Edited May 26, 2024 by katrina.balanchuk

[Tentacus]

7 hours ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

I just found out via another thread there is a 4th pimp named Marge?

Anyone have a tip where she is?

I have tried BD and Isabel, skipped Raymond.

 

Does nobody watch the videos in the OP? 😭 

 

lol.

[katrina.balanchuk]

8 hours ago, Tentacus said:

 

Does nobody watch the videos in the OP? 😭 

 

lol.

Sorry,

sometimes I just go and discover if the MCM or the controls seem fine to me.

[Umbopo65]

I really never seriously considered Marge as the population of Bunker doesn't really look like it's large enough to support a tart, she'd certainly have a lot of, very, regulars.

[Umbopo65]

This mod is one of the best and I haven't played a game without it.  Being able to beg then whore for money after a catastrophic abduction leaves the PC completely worse of than than when she emerged from the vault, is a great and immersive thing.  I spent ages just working for Queen Isabel, although, with all the effort to finally buy Home Plate for her, I thought there would be a bit more fanfare but she barely noticed, I suppose it is in her character.

 

One issue I am having lately that is new, when propositioning an NPC their dialogue box has stopped appearing and I have to wait to see if they follow or not or if anything drops in my inventory to find out what the answer was.  I die do a search for this or similar topic but I could only find and issue related to using FROST.  Not something I'm using (yet)  any ideas on how I can get the other side of the conversations back?

[vaultbait]

23 minutes ago, Umbopo65 said:

I really never seriously considered Marge as the population of Bunker doesn't really look like it's large enough to support a tart, she'd certainly have a lot of, very, regulars.

 

The way I look at it, BH is the Commonwealth's primary trading hub, with a transient population from all the caravans coming and going. Traditionally, those are the sorts of towns which are the most lucrative (but also most dangerous) for sex work. Think sailors on shore leave...

[Tentacus]

4 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

The way I look at it, BH is the Commonwealth's primary trading hub, with a transient population from all the caravans coming and going. Traditionally, those are the sorts of towns which are the most lucrative (but also most dangerous) for sex work. Think sailors on shore leave...

Yeah, it'd be nice if there was a mod to have traders coming and going that you could sell your wares to. It's one of those areas in the game that represents something that it doesn't really portray very well.

 

4 hours ago, Umbopo65 said:

One issue I am having lately that is new, when propositioning an NPC their dialogue box has stopped appearing and I have to wait to see if they follow or not or if anything drops in my inventory to find out what the answer was.  I die do a search for this or similar topic but I could only find and issue related to using FROST.  Not something I'm using (yet)  any ideas on how I can get the other side of the conversations back?

 

No idea. The only mod conflict I've ever seen that fucked up convos was the FO4 version of Fuz Roh D'oh (Sorry cannot be arsed to remember the actual name since I've never used it) I think that was fixed though, IIRC.

 

Oh, and thanks for the nice comments.

Edited June 13, 2024 by Tentacus

[katrina.balanchuk]

4 hours ago, Umbopo65 said:

  I spent ages just working for Queen Isabel, although, with all the effort to finally buy Home Plate for her, I thought there would be a bit more fanfare but she barely noticed, I suppose it is in her character.

 

 You can actually buy home plate for her?

I never got there, she mentioned a couple times I should save up to buy her a home off my own money ( not sure how that would be possible if she takes half of it.)

but if it is possible its somhting I want to try

 

Does BD have a similar large service to do?

 

[vaultbait]

3 hours ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

You can actually buy home plate for her?

I never got there, she mentioned a couple times I should save up to buy her a home off my own money ( not sure how that would be possible if she takes half of it.)

but if it is possible its somhting I want to try

 

It really takes no time at all unless you use one of those mods which increases the purchase cost from 2k to more like 10k caps. Heck, if I make a beeline from Vault 111 to DC at the start of the game, then sell off most of what I've pilfered along the way, I'm usually very close to having enough to buy Home Plate as soon as I get there. Prostitute myself a few times for an average of 100 per john, worst case.

 

Once you own Home Plate, she'll ask you to arrange "house parties" there.

 

3 hours ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

Does BD have a similar large service to do?

 

Not so far as I'm aware.

[Umbopo65]

7 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

It really takes no time at all unless you use one of those mods which increases the purchase cost from 2k to more like 10k caps. Heck, if I make a beeline from Vault 111 to DC at the start of the game, then sell off most of what I've pilfered along the way, I'm usually very close to having enough to buy Home Plate as soon as I get there. Prostitute myself a few times for an average of 100 per john, worst case.

 

Once you own Home Plate, she'll ask you to arrange "house parties" there.

 

 

Not so far as I'm aware.

The house parties are good, a stack of clients all in one spot, just don't invite the guy who removes collars in the Dugout, he doesn't leave, I finally got him to leave when he agreed to a BW proposition and asked to go somewhere private, he followed me back to the Dugout.

[Umbopo65]

10 hours ago, Tentacus said:

Yeah, it'd be nice if there was a mod to have traders coming and going that you could sell your wares to. It's one of those areas in the game that represents something that it doesn't really portray very well.

 

 

No idea. The only mod conflict I've ever seen that fucked up convos was the FO4 version of Fuz Roh D'oh (Sorry cannot be arsed to remember the actual name since I've never used it) I think that was fixed though, IIRC.

 

Oh, and thanks for the nice comments.

I think it's F4z roh do or something.  I've been using that for some time as a few mods use it.  I'll fiddle with the load order and see that's the charm.  Thanks for taking the time to reply, very much appreciated.

[katrina.balanchuk]

39 minutes ago, Umbopo65 said:

The house parties are good, a stack of clients all in one spot, just don't invite the guy who removes collars in the Dugout, he doesn't leave, I finally got him to leave when he agreed to a BW proposition and asked to go somewhere private, he followed me back to the Dugout.

What house parties?

Is that something BD will do?

 

Months ago I played both with isabel and BD fiarly far but never had a trigger for house party or buying her a house. I hear hermention but I didnt know there was a mechanism to actually do it.

So if I buy home plate while I am working for her there will be a dialog option to gift it to her?

And what about the house party thing?

[Tentacus]

4 hours ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

What house parties?

Is that something BD will do?

 

Months ago I played both with isabel and BD fiarly far but never had a trigger for house party or buying her a house. I hear hermention but I didnt know there was a mechanism to actually do it.

So if I buy home plate while I am working for her there will be a dialog option to gift it to her?

And what about the house party thing?

 

When you own home plate you can invite Johns back to your place. You can also do this when working for Mr Raymond at the Rexford. You do not have to have a pimp for Homeplate though. Isabel merely tells you to buy the house "for her" as a bit of a roleplaying excuse to buy it.

 

House Parties and Pimps For real guys... watch the damn videos, I worked hard on them, and this is the best one... lol.

 

 

Edited June 14, 2024 by Tentacus

[vaultbait]

10 hours ago, Umbopo65 said:

just don't invite the guy who removes collars in the Dugout, he doesn't leave, I finally got him to leave when he agreed to a BW proposition and asked to go somewhere private, he followed me back to the Dugout.

 

And this is why mod creators should never, ever, ever place persistent NPCs anywhere without giving them default "travel" packages that make them return to a particular spot or sandbox in a defined area (there's even a generic one you can add that just says if they're not busy they should walk back to the exact same spot where they were initially loaded). Sadly, lots of authors didn't get the memo.

 

Hardship's NPCs are an excellent example of doing it right.

[nefer385]

Hello Tentacus,

 

First of all, I have to thank you for this mod and the other mods you have shared.  Brings so much life to the wasteland.  Thank you for Notice me Senpai as well, keep bringing it!!!  

 

Purpose of my message, I was hoping that you could advise me on what I may be doing wrong with using AAF Hardship with the combination of AAF, NAF and the NAF Bridge.  Prior to learning of NAF and the Bridge this mod worked well with only the AAF setup.  Now the animations (regardless of the length of time that I set) only last for maybe 2 seconds (if that).  I believe that I read that you are no longer updating or maintaining this mod so my query may just be a dead-end.  I just figured it may be something that I need to do on my end, as all of the other AAF mods seem to be working well (once the XML's are placed in the respective folder).  Any suggestions are welcomed.  My apologies if someone already asked you this and it is answered somewhere earlier in the thread.

 

Thanks again for sharing your work!!

[Tentacus]

9 hours ago, nefer385 said:

Hello Tentacus,

 

I believe that I read that you are no longer updating or maintaining this mod 

 

 

Thanks for the kind words.

 

Yeah, I've quit Bethesda modding in general and moved on to working on my own games. (At least until the fascists  ban porn) There's actually quite a lot of good adult games on Steam these days (And quite a lot of bad ones.)

 

Unfortunately... I have no experience with the mods you mentioned and haven't interacted with the AAF ecosystem since I started work on NMS, years ago so my knowledge is incredibly out of date. Hopefully someone else will be able to help you.

 

 

Here's what I've been working on today if you're curious:

 

 

Edited July 9, 2024 by Tentacus

[nefer385]

Dude, proud of you, you're not just talkin' it you're doin' it.  It is good that you're doing you man.  Yeah, after I had typed out my message to you, I kept scrolling back through the threads, and it dawned on me that these mods that came up were well after your last update with this mod.  I appreciate the work you have done on Hardship.  Can't lie I am still going to try to find a way to keep it in my load order.  The npc characters that you added to the mod, the wit of the dialogue too damn good to just drop it.  I'll just have to accept that the animation just won't complete during the scenes.  Also, it is a possibility that there may be some sort of 'patch' or workaround that the NAF and Bridge mods may need to do, as they are still working out tweaks on their respective mod(s).  Also, if I read correctly, I think that some of the XML files for Hardship were custom-made by you.  So, it may just be one of those things that can't be remedied.  Regardless, please tell me what the name of your game is, that is if it is already available of course.

Edited July 10, 2024 by nefer385
Two Grammatical fixes.

[Tentacus]

8 hours ago, nefer385 said:

Regardless, please tell me what the name of your game is, that is if it is already available of course.

 

It won't be out for at least another year. I've been working on it a year already, more or less. It has a title but I don't want to share it yet until I decide if I want to try to self publish or look for a publisher since I am so terrible at self promotion and it's probably easier to get "my kind" of content on Steam with one.

 

There is no crowdfunding and it will not be released as early access. I really hate how most adult games on Steam are permanently early access.

 

Gameplay wise it's a reverse trainer. IE: The heroine's goal is to resist being broken and turned into a sex slave. There are several endings planned, a lot of dialogue interactions and branching. If you like my mods, you should like this. Think of it as kind of a sexual survival game.

 

I'll start doing a little more promottion and teasing later in the year. Whenever I figure out where I'll leave a note on my mod pages.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 10, 2024 by Tentacus

[nefer385]

Yeah.  Makes sense.  The game industry as many industries can be pretty f**ked up.  Hard working people getting laid off or dropped after a project ends with various companies, at no fault of their own.  It seems to be a tricky business at best.   Hoping you can touch bases with someone who has some proper advice for you and who can help you avoid any weird pitfalls.  I know that I'm not the only one pulling for you, be great for some of 'our own' mod authors to be able to successfully get into the industry.  

[KoolAidMan467]

okay ive seen how frustrated you are from people not reading how to get this mod to run so im trying my absolute best!! im new to the pc modding scene so im learning as i go. ive made sure handcuffs is above in the load order, ive downloaded everything correctly, i even get all the pop ups saying the stuff is working etc. but im having problems with 2 things...

 

1. i cant for the life of me get mcm to fricken work lmao, ive tried manual, ive looked up how to do it ive watched about 13 videos, everything. cant get it to pop up in my pause menu

 

2. i also cant get the item to be in my inventory. ive made sure handcuffs is above, ive used LOOT to ensure my load order is how it needs to be, ive tried saving and reloading. nothing.

 

im bashing my head off my desk cause this looks like such a cool mod and i have a build that works perfectly for it, and yet? i have come up empty handed.. i know youre probably tired of having to fix everyone elses problems but i beg of you, please save me from dispair..

[Tentacus]

6 hours ago, KoolAidMan467 said:

okay ive seen how frustrated you are from people not reading how to get this mod to run so im trying my absolute best!! im new to the pc modding scene so im learning as i go. ive made sure handcuffs is above in the load order, ive downloaded everything correctly, i even get all the pop ups saying the stuff is working etc. but im having problems with 2 things...

 

1. i cant for the life of me get mcm to fricken work lmao, ive tried manual, ive looked up how to do it ive watched about 13 videos, everything. cant get it to pop up in my pause menu

 

2. i also cant get the item to be in my inventory. ive made sure handcuffs is above, ive used LOOT to ensure my load order is how it needs to be, ive tried saving and reloading. nothing.

 

im bashing my head off my desk cause this looks like such a cool mod and i have a build that works perfectly for it, and yet? i have come up empty handed.. i know youre probably tired of having to fix everyone elses problems but i beg of you, please save me from dispair..

 

Sounds frustrating. If MCM itself isn't working, you've got some fundamental issues with your setup. Maybe make sure you have all of MCM's requirements installed and correctly. Run Loot in whatever mod manager you are using to ensure that your load order doesn't have any issues beyond those related to my mod. (You'd be surprised how big a deal this can be).  Make sure F4SE is installed right and in the right directory cause I am guessing this is a F4SE issue if MCM won't even show up.  Maybe look up guides on youtube (such as these) to help with your general mod setup before trying to even engage with this whole FUCKED UP AAF ecosystem.  

 

That's about the best I can do for you. I hope someone else can help if that didn't. I know this can be frustrating early on. Good luck.

Edited July 13, 2024 by Tentacus

[izzyknows]

8 hours ago, KoolAidMan467 said:

okay ive seen how frustrated you are from people not reading how to get this mod to run so im trying my absolute best!! im new to the pc modding scene so im learning as i go. ive made sure handcuffs is above in the load order, ive downloaded everything correctly, i even get all the pop ups saying the stuff is working etc. but im having problems with 2 things...

 

1. i cant for the life of me get mcm to fricken work lmao, ive tried manual, ive looked up how to do it ive watched about 13 videos, everything. cant get it to pop up in my pause menu

 

2. i also cant get the item to be in my inventory. ive made sure handcuffs is above, ive used LOOT to ensure my load order is how it needs to be, ive tried saving and reloading. nothing.

 

im bashing my head off my desk cause this looks like such a cool mod and i have a build that works perfectly for it, and yet? i have come up empty handed.. i know youre probably tired of having to fix everyone elses problems but i beg of you, please save me from dispair..

First off, what version of the game are you running?

If you're running the next gen patch, roll your game back as that will save you a LOT of headaches. Nexus has some great tools to easily do it. Then, make sure the mods you have are NOT next gen. (The NG patch is a total shit show btw)

 

[KoolAidMan467]

16 hours ago, izzyknows said:

First off, what version of the game are you running?

If you're running the next gen patch, roll your game back as that will save you a LOT of headaches. Nexus has some great tools to easily do it. Then, make sure the mods you have are NOT next gen. (The NG patch is a total shit show btw)

 

so!! update!! ive gotten almost everything  working, however i still cant seem to get the mod to appear in mcm, nor can i get the item? im going to try reinstalling said mon om mo2 and see if it fixes

[KoolAidMan467]

4 minutes ago, KoolAidMan467 said:

so!! update!! ive gotten almost everything  working, however i still cant seem to get the mod to appear in mcm, nor can i get the item? im going to try reinstalling said mon om mo2 and see if it fixes

replying to myself here, ive gotten it to pop into mcm!!!! i can use the mod completely!! only problem is still no item in my inventory so ill try over the next few days to get that sorted, if youre wondering my mcm was the wrong version. but at first glance everything seems to be in order!!, thank you all for your help!

[Tentacus]

5 hours ago, KoolAidMan467 said:

replying to myself here, ive gotten it to pop into mcm!!!! i can use the mod completely!! only problem is still no item in my inventory so ill try over the next few days to get that sorted, if youre wondering my mcm was the wrong version. but at first glance everything seems to be in order!!, thank you all for your help!

 

Try reinstalling AAF. No item can mean the main script for my mod isn't initializing right and one time I had a corrupted AAF script that caused this. Whatever is causing it still shows that you have something pretty fundamental in your setup that is broken cause adding the menu item is as about as baseline of a operation as it gets for this mod.

Edited July 14, 2024 by Tentacus