Mods fix request

[Guest]

Two mods that my wife likes a lot have bugs and I kindly ask someone for the fix.

 

- The first mod is SexLab romance. The bug appears when the Player started romancing NPC. If the romance is interrupted by NPC's distraction like he/she saw animal, NPC starts to chase the animal and further romance is unavailable. If the Player try to re-romance that NPC, it ended with three dots and nothing happens. Loading previous save helps sometimes, but also doesn't help. re-installation of the mod with clean save is the only option in that case.

 

- The second mod is SLEN. The bug appears if I press "Enter" during sex scene. It happens accidentally. After sex the player can move, but he/she is not synchronized with camera. You can't turn camera in any direction. The only solution is to leave the game and reload earlier save.

 

Both mods are great mods but they are abandoned and bugs are very annoying. I would be very grateful if someone will make fixes for these two mods.

[worik]

I can't help for the first mod - never played it for real.

 

But for the second issue I am sure it is somehow interrupting the expected flow of things. "Enter" is probably used differently in my game, but I remember to have had that with other mods and other presed keys.

You could have a look at my little collection

Especially part IV

Spoiler

Part IV. ME - the player

Q: I can't move, although I am on open ground, I have no control. Evereything else around me is going on, NPC are still moving ... etc..

A: You are probably stuck in a scene or a quest wants you to be stuck. If you still want to move on:

• the console command is called "enable player control" or in short "epc"
  • open console
  • epc
• or you use the detailed version with 9 optional 0/1 parameters (movement|fighting|pov|looking|sneaking|menu|activate|journal|POV) and it looks like
  • epc 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
• reference http://mod.gib.me/skyrim/functions.html

Q: I am stuck in an animation at (enchanting table, tanning rack, etc ...). But nothing happens

A: Some of these can get buggy if scripts are triggered in this very moment. Under certain conditions, this may help

• open console
• player.tai
• leave consoe
• repeat if it didn't help with the first try

 

Not sure if it helps, but if you have saved the game before you try it out, it can't hurt. ?

 

Edit:

And whatever it takes to fix it, I'd be happy to read and add the solution for this case

[donttouchmethere]

10 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

The second mod is SLEN. The bug appears if I press "Enter" during sex scene.

That is not a bug caused by SLEN.

It's a very old SLF bug.

If you press "activate" during a SLanimation, the player camera will be stuck afterwards (or right away).

 

What quickly helps: Use furniture, or everything that forces the camera into a new position.

(maybe even starting a new sexlab scene with ragdoll end will help, alternative SD+ defeat function => chose "ragdoll")

 

Worik posted the more elaborate accidentally-hit-"activate"-during-sex-camera-stuck-fix alternatives =D

[donttouchmethere]

10 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

The first mod is SexLab romance. The bug appears when the Player started romancing NPC. If the romance is interrupted by NPC's distraction like he/she saw animal, NPC starts to chase the animal and further romance is unavailable. If the Player try to re-romance that NPC, it ended with three dots and nothing happens.

SL romance seems to be not very stable if the quest/dialog can't continue after getting interrupted.

(Something that happens all the time on my setup)

 

If you know the quest stage you might be able to jump forward in quest via console.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, worik said:

I can't help for the first mod - never played it for real.

 

But for the second issue I am sure it is somehow interrupting the expected flow of things. "Enter" is probably used differently in my game, but I remember to have had that with other mods and other presed keys.

You could have a look at my little collection

Especially part IV

  Hide contents

Part IV. ME - the player

Q: I can't move, although I am on open ground, I have no control. Evereything else around me is going on, NPC are still moving ... etc..

A: You are probably stuck in a scene or a quest wants you to be stuck. If you still want to move on:

• the console command is called "enable player control" or in short "epc"
  • open console
  • epc
• or you use the detailed version with 9 optional 0/1 parameters (movement|fighting|pov|looking|sneaking|menu|activate|journal|POV) and it looks like
  • epc 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
• reference http://mod.gib.me/skyrim/functions.html

Q: I am stuck in an animation at (enchanting table, tanning rack, etc ...). But nothing happens

A: Some of these can get buggy if scripts are triggered in this very moment. Under certain conditions, this may help

• open console
• player.tai
• leave consoe
• repeat if it didn't help with the first try

 

Not sure if it helps, but if you have saved the game before you try it out, it can't hurt. ?

 

Edit:

And whatever it takes to fix it, I'd be happy to read and add the solution for this case

Thanks for the answer and help. First of all, epc command doesn't work at all. Before I posted this thread, I read all possible solutions on the net. Tried offered commands but none worked. Well what @donttouchmethere said about the rack is true. The only problem with this one is that all moving keys are fucked up and I can't see where my character is going because camera doesn't rotate. For instance. When this problem happened in Whiterun near the A.A.'s workbench it took me almost half and hour to get to the rack and even then I couldn't use it because moving keys and camera didn't want to turn my character to face the rack. Jaxon's positioner helped because I could turn my character to face the rack. He was faced toward the screen all the time unable to turn in any direction.

[Guest]

50 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

That is not an bug caused by SLEN.

It's a very old SLF bug.

If you press "activate" during a SLanimation, the player camera will be stuck afterwards (or right away).

 

What quickly helps: Use furniture, or everything that forces the camera into a new position.

(maybe even starting a new sexlab scene with ragdoll end will help, alternative SD+ defeat function => chose "ragdoll")

 

Worik posted the more elaborate accidentally-hit-"activate"-during-sex-camera-stuck-fix alternatives =D

It is SLEN bug. No other mod which we use for sex initiation like Romance or SexLab working prostitution doesn't react that way when pressing "Enter" animations, goes to the end and all is fine. Have no problem at all. Only in SLEN.

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

SL romance seems to be not very stable if the quest/dialog can't continue after getting interrupted.

(Something that happens all the time on my setup)

 

If you now the quest stage you might be able to jump forward in quest via console.

SL romance hasn't been updated for years. But we love this mod. Unfortunately, we don't know what stage we are since my wife presses "Enter" button accidentally.

[worik]

12 minutes ago, Elf Prince said:

He was faced toward the screen all the time unable to turn in any direction.

That sounds familiar ? It's been a while since I suffered from that.

I'll think about it and try to remember what I did to fix it. But it may take a few days, since I'm travelling and don't have my Skyrim with me

 

Edit: and it's not only in SexLab mods. I remember had that with a few others as well. *sinks-back-into-deep-brooding-over-this-issue*

[Guest]

1 minute ago, worik said:

That sounds familiar ? It's been a while since I suffered from that.

I'll think about it and try to remember what I did to fix it. But it may take a few days, since I'm travelling and don't have my Skyrim with me

Thanks worried

[donttouchmethere]

3 minutes ago, Elf Prince said:

The only problem with this one is that all moving keys are fucked up and I can't see where my character is going because camera doesn't rotate. For instance. When this problem happened in Whiterun near the A.A.'s workbench it took me almost half and hour to get to the rack and even then I couldn't use it because moving keys and camera didn't want to turn my character to face the rack. Jaxon's positioner helped because I could turn my character to face the rack. He was faced toward the screen all the time unable to turn in any direction.

I know that feeling >.<

That's why I have a trauma from pressing activate key during sex (luckily not the other way around).

 

Need to play around some more, especially if that ragdoll solution really works, it's more hypothetical.

 

Alternative would be to spawn a furniture at your place via console or cell builder.

Or even start a SL scene with an animation that works with furniture? That would be genius ?

[donttouchmethere]

20 minutes ago, Elf Prince said:

It is SLEN bug. No other mod which we use for sex initiation like Romance or SexLab working prostitution doesn't react that way when pressing "Enter" animations, goes to the end and all is fine. Have no problem at all. Only in SLEN.

try to start a SL animation and press "activate" while SLEN is not installed ;D

 

to explain it a bit more:

SLEN triggers SLanimation ->

SLF takes over the control over the SL animation -> pressing "activate" during SLFscene causes SLF to fix the rotation of the camera in place -> SLF finishes animation control, without releasing the camera rotation

-> SLEN does the aftermath

 

[worik]

12 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Or even start a SL scene with an animation that works with furniture?

That rings a distant bell.... starting an animation. Any animation. Doesn't matter what. ... I think I could fix that with a fishing animation from a mod.. ? .. or was it praying ... both

*back-to-brooding*

 

Edit: It MUST be a camera problem. And my guess is that the right animation will cycle at one point to the whole resetting and fix everything back to normal. Would be nice to know how that could be achieved with console commands ?

[Psalam]

@Elf Prince I've not played the mod (Romance) either. I just want to clarify what you are asking. As I understand it at some point in the mod you are talking (romancing) an NPC and they simply decide something else is more interesting (SQUIRREL!). This does NOT happen while actually having sex. You are also certain that this is not a normal (planned) part of the mod where the NPC is simply telling you that they are not interested in you (GET LOST!).

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Psalam said:

@Elf Prince I've not played the mod (Romance) either. I just want to clarify what you are asking. As I understand it at some point in the mod you are talking (romancing) an NPC and they simply decide something else is more interesting (SQUIRREL!). This does NOT happen while actually having sex. You are also certain that this is not a normal (planned) part of the mod where the NPC is simply telling you that they are not interested in you (GET LOST!).

If NPC isn't interrupted or distracted by other NPC/foe or animal during romancing, everything goes well. Also, if he/she is interrupted/distracted by a third part, he chase it. When he kills animal or foe, re-romancing works, but chances are 50/50. You have the dialoque branch but when it comes to accepted sex: the mod doesn't respond.  You see Vanilla game has this issue solved nicely. If the courier sees you talking to other NPC, he waits until you finish the dialogue. But, if he finds you in sex act, he also communicate with you (sometimes) but it doesn't break the mod. If the courier doesn't communicate with you during your sex, he waits until you finish. One click on him, makes him start talking. The exception is Durak. He waits for some time and if your sex last too long, he walks away understanding that you rejected his offer to join  Dawnguard. You see, my father tested Defeat mod four Guobo when he was alive. The mod had same problem with distracted/interrupted NPC. He reported it to the author who fixed it. Stupid Bethseda made interruption/distraction your conversation with NPC even if he see small rabbit. So If you made some deal with him and he gets killed in the process, your mod/quest/advance interaction is broken.

 

As for SLEN. You know how camera follows you when you are running or walking. You see your character's back if running in third person. Now, when you press "Enter" ("E" by default for interaction with the object), everything is fucked up. camera looks at your face now and if you walk or run, it runs and walk backwards with no possibility to turn around or left or right. If you are in cave, your movement is fucked up and there is no way you can go to your goal.

[Psalam]

8 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

If NPC isn't interrupted or distracted by other NPC/foe or animal during romancing, everything goes well. Also, if he/she is interrupted/distracted by a third part, he chase it. When he kills animal or foe, re-romancing works, but chances are 50/50. You have the dialoque branch but when it comes to accepted sex: the mod doesn't respond.  You see Vanilla game has this issue solved nicely. If the courier sees you talking to other NPC, he waits until you finish the dialogue. But, if he finds you in sex act, he also communicate with you (sometimes) but it doesn't break the mod. If the courier doesn't communicate with you during your sex, he waits until you finish. One click on him, makes him start talking. The exception is Durak. He waits for some time and if your sex last too long, he walks away understanding that you rejected his offer to join  Dawnguard. You see, my father tested Defeat mod four Guobo when he was alive. The mod had same problem with distracted/interrupted NPC. He reported it to the author who fixed it. Stupid Bethseda made interruption/distraction your conversation with NPC even if he see small rabbit. So If you made some deal with him and he gets killed in the process, your mod/quest/advance interaction is broken.

 

As for SLEN. You know how camera follows you when you are running or walking. You see your character's back if running in third person. Now, when you press "Enter" ("E" by default for interaction with the object), everything is fucked up. camera looks at your face now and if you walk or run, it runs and walk backwards with no possibility to turn around or left or right. If you are in cave, your movement is fucked up and there is no way you can go to your goal.

When I get time I'll pull Romance up in the CK and see if there is an easy fix. If so I'll do it and post it here.

 

As far as the camera is concerned I understand your problem. Like Worik and Donttouchmethere I've had it happen. Sadly, there is nothing more that I can suggest beyond what they have already said.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Psalam said:

When I get time I'll pull Romance up in the CK and see if there is an easy fix. If so I'll do it and post it here.

 

As far as the camera is concerned I understand your problem. Like Worik and Donttouchmethere I've had it happen. Sadly, there is nothing more that I can suggest beyond what they have already said.

Thank you mister Psalam.

[Psalam]

On 9/17/2019 at 4:57 AM, Elf Prince said:

Thank you mister Psalam.

I think I can fix it (Romance) - I've at least got the research done. I should be able to post a patch in the next couple of days (my schedule is actually fairly heavy in RL right now). However, in the meantime I thought that you might want to see this:

 

As you've been told, this is not an uncommon issue and, who knows, maybe someone will respond here and give a better answer about the camera.

[Psalam]

@Elf Prince This should fix the issue with SexLab romance. Make sure that it comes after Romance in the load order (anywhere). As always, if you are adding it to a saved game put it at the end of your load order. Let me know how it works.

 

.Romance fix.esp

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Psalam said:

@Elf Prince This should fix the issue with SexLab romance. Make sure that it comes after Romance in the load order (anywhere). As always, if you are adding it to a saved game put it at the end of your load order. Let me know how it works.

 

.Romance fix.esp

Thanks for your effort Psalam. Unfortunately it didn't work. I put it after original mod and I got additional problem: MCM mebu registred new mod and I have tow Romance mods listed. Plus, I romanced female bandit in the fort near Riften. I just started the dialogue when she saw a wolf. The dialogue box closed and she ran off chasing wolf. I couldn't re-romance her because wolf killed her but I could start a new romance with another female bandit. Is there a way to block interruption once the romance start?

Spoiler

 

[Psalam]

7 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

Thanks for your effort Psalam. Unfortunately it didn't work. I put it after original mod and I got additional problem: MCM mebu registred new mod and I have tow Romance mods listed. Plus, I romanced female bandit in the fort near Riften. I just started the dialogue when she saw a wolf. The dialogue box closed and she ran off chasing wolf. I couldn't re-romance her because wolf killed her but I could start a new romance with another female bandit. Is there a way to block interruption once the romance start?

  Reveal hidden contents

 

I'll see if I can figure out what I did wrong. I may have to make a "replacement" rather than a "fix."

[Guest]

On 9/19/2019 at 11:25 AM, Psalam said:

I'll see if I can figure out what I did wrong. I may have to make a "replacement" rather than a "fix."

That would be nice. Thank you.

[Psalam]

On 9/20/2019 at 11:26 AM, Elf Prince said:

That would be nice. Thank you.

For the record, this is 99% the original mod. I make no claim to authorship of this mod lest anyone claim this is piracy. All credit belongs to the original mod author (even if that doesn't work as planned).

 

Also for the record, what I thought might be the problem and what I did to fix it:

Spoiler

What I thought was the cause:

Spoiler

Priorities in SexLab Romance were set quite low. I simply increased them to a more reasonable level which should keep other things from interrupting the mod. Since I messed with the quest I also generated a new SEQ file thinking that it too might have played a role.

How I did it (in case anyone want to go behind me and see):

Spoiler

First I downloaded the mod and both placed it in Skyrim and unpacked it in Documents. I then made the changes to priorities in the esp using the Creation Kit. Using Tes5Edit I made a new Seq file for the altered mod. I then made a new Data folder in which I placed the altered esp, the copied scripts and the new Seq file. I then used 7zip on the Data file and uploaded.

 

 

Finally, this is a REPLACEMENT file for SexLab Romance. Remove the old one as you would any other mod and replace it with this. As usual with this sort of thing I can not promise that it will work at all but it is more likely to have the desired effect in a new game.

 

SexLab Romance - fixed.zip

[Guest]

On 9/21/2019 at 8:15 PM, Psalam said:

For the record, this is 99% the original mod. I make no claim to authorship of this mod lest anyone claim this is piracy. All credit belongs to the original mod author (even if that doesn't work as planned).

 

Also for the record, what I thought might be the problem and what I did to fix it:

  Reveal hidden contents

What I thought was the cause:

  Reveal hidden contents

Priorities in SexLab Romance were set quite low. I simply increased them to a more reasonable level which should keep other things from interrupting the mod. Since I messed with the quest I also generated a new SEQ file thinking that it too might have played a role.

How I did it (in case anyone want to go behind me and see):

  Reveal hidden contents

First I downloaded the mod and both placed it in Skyrim and unpacked it in Documents. I then made the changes to priorities in the esp using the Creation Kit. Using Tes5Edit I made a new Seq file for the altered mod. I then made a new Data folder in which I placed the altered esp, the copied scripts and the new Seq file. I then used 7zip on the Data file and uploaded.

 

 

Finally, this is a REPLACEMENT file for SexLab Romance. Remove the old one as you would any other mod and replace it with this. As usual with this sort of thing I can not promise that it will work at all but it is more likely to have the desired effect in a new game.

 

SexLab Romance - fixed.zip 80.85 kB · 2 downloads

Thank you. I will zest it as soon as I find time and will let you know how it works.

[Guest]

On 9/21/2019 at 8:15 PM, Psalam said:

For the record, this is 99% the original mod. I make no claim to authorship of this mod lest anyone claim this is piracy. All credit belongs to the original mod author (even if that doesn't work as planned).

 

Also for the record, what I thought might be the problem and what I did to fix it:

  Reveal hidden contents

What I thought was the cause:

  Reveal hidden contents

Priorities in SexLab Romance were set quite low. I simply increased them to a more reasonable level which should keep other things from interrupting the mod. Since I messed with the quest I also generated a new SEQ file thinking that it too might have played a role.

How I did it (in case anyone want to go behind me and see):

  Reveal hidden contents

First I downloaded the mod and both placed it in Skyrim and unpacked it in Documents. I then made the changes to priorities in the esp using the Creation Kit. Using Tes5Edit I made a new Seq file for the altered mod. I then made a new Data folder in which I placed the altered esp, the copied scripts and the new Seq file. I then used 7zip on the Data file and uploaded.

 

 

Finally, this is a REPLACEMENT file for SexLab Romance. Remove the old one as you would any other mod and replace it with this. As usual with this sort of thing I can not promise that it will work at all but it is more likely to have the desired effect in a new game.

 

SexLab Romance - fixed.zip 80.85 kB · 3 downloads

The mod works good. Thank you. I pressed "enter" during romancing and my character wasn't stuck. NPC also didn't react on animals that were passing by during conversation. If the animal (fox, rabbit, dear or wolf) was still nearby during the sex, the mod played the dialogue and sex to the end and NPC chased the animal after the sex. Good work, Psalam and thanks again.

[Psalam]

7 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

The mod works good. Thank you. I pressed "enter" during romancing and my character wasn't stuck. NPC also didn't react on animals that were passing by during conversation. If the animal (fox, rabbit, dear or wolf) was still nearby during the sex, the mod played the dialogue and sex to the end and NPC chased the animal after the sex. Good work, Psalam and thanks again.

You're welcome.