CTDs,Lags and Freezes

[HawkEye95]

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Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.8GHz

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit

16GB Ram

4GB Vram

Directx 12

 

I get lots of freezes and lags no matter where i am,indoors or outdoor.

Indoors i may get 50fps or something like that but outdoors i can't get more than 30fps

Recently i completed the Whiterun Battle and i couldn't get more than 15fps and that was with the ENB turned OFF

Another thing is that when i turn camera around i get lags

İ am not a pro when it comes to modding but i do not think that the problem is my comuter

Anyways,if someone could help shed some light on my problem,i would really appreciate it.

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[Dallas-Arbiter]

It is the game itself. Old Skyrim is pretty unstable even without mods, and once you start adding mods into the game, it gets highly unstable to completely unplayable. Also, it's a 32bit game running DX9. It doesn't matter how powerful your PC is. It just doesn't work all that well.

 

 

[ANGRYWOLVERINE]

Dallas exaggerates somewhat.. I would go hrs without lag s, freezes or ctds. I would go.......I have a tendency to keep adding stuff to my games and it's bogging them down now. So the freezing and lags have become an issue. The only fix for that for me in to get my pc rebuilt or buy another that is more powerful.

 

You do have a lot of mods.Do you use matorsmash ? You didn't say. I presume you are merging mods but if you learn how to use matorsmash it could help you alot..

 

You didn't say anything about an ENB or your ini values whether you set your nvidia to the recommended values  for skyrim .You left a lot out.

 

I would recommend you go to the skyrim modding reddit.Yes there arte a few people there who are arrogant but there are others that could help you.

 

Good luck.

 

 

[Neko-Barbare]

I suggest you to use skse in order to have access to the memory usage for your skyrim. It could smooth yout problem by adding some *precious* FPS.

[Grey Cloud]

13 hours ago, Dallas-Arbiter said:

It is the game itself. Old Skyrim is pretty unstable even without mods, and once you start adding mods into the game, it gets highly unstable to completely unplayable. Also, it's a 32bit game running DX9. It doesn't matter how powerful your PC is. It just doesn't work all that well.

 

This is total nonsense.

 

12 hours ago, ANGRYWOLVERINE said:

allas exaggerates somewhat.. I would go hrs without lag s, freezes or ctds. I would go.......I have a tendency to keep adding stuff to my games and it's bogging them down now. So the freezing and lags have become an issue. The only fix for that for me in to get my pc rebuilt or buy another that is more powerful.

 

You do have a lot of mods.Do you use matorsmash ? You didn't say. I presume you are merging mods but if you learn how to use matorsmash it could help you alot..

 

You didn't say anything about an ENB or your ini values whether you set your nvidia to the recommended values  for skyrim .You left a lot out.

 

I would recommend you go to the skyrim modding reddit.Yes there arte a few people there who are arrogant but there are others that could help you.

That's not much better.

 

It is entriely possible to play Skyrim with, e.g. 300 mods on a not very powerful machine and not have CTDs, lag and freezes all the time.

 

Read this (never look to  reddit for anything remotely intelligent).

https://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.10.0

 

Crash fixes [If you are using MNC v12 then you will need to rollback to v11]
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/

 

SKSE Plugin Preloader
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/?

 

ENBoost (not needed if already using an ENB) [You are using an ENB but it is still worth reading]
https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost

 

 

[yatol]

11 hours ago, Dallas-Arbiter said:

It is the game itself. Old Skyrim is pretty unstable even without mods, and once you start adding mods into the game, it gets highly unstable to completely unplayable.

 

really?

if your game is unstable, the problem is between the chair and the screen

 

number near breezehome, it's the hours, that save is 949 hours old

took some time to do everything in tamriel, dlc, 3dnpc, falskaar, wyrmstooth, moonpath, gray fox, helgen reborn, agent of righteous might, mzark, moonandstar....

see the number of active scripts? waitscripts? updatescripts? there's nothing strange there

 

the problem when you keep adding and adding and adding, mod x cave entrance is hide by northern encounter stuff, when you leave righteous might house there's a winterhold ruin wall that cover the stair, the stuff you would have if you were using 2 town overhaul instead of one

and it make loading time longer (more stuff to load, that take... more time, logic)

 

as for how that look, with a gtx 570 1280 mb

with a readon 8 gb

and running outside

i am not cap at 60 fps and i don't give a shit (went too far, tree animation disabled under 30 fps, so have reduce the grass a little to go back to 40 fps, i don't keep while running of course)

 

 

13 hours ago, HawkEye95 said:

Indoors i may get 50fps or something like that but outdoors i can't get more than 30fps

Recently i completed the Whiterun Battle and i couldn't get more than 15fps and that was with the ENB turned OFF

Another thing is that when i turn camera around i get lags

İ am not a pro when it comes to modding but i do not think that the problem is my comuter

Anyways,if someone could help shed some light on my problem,i would really appreciate it.

there's more stuff to load in tamriel than in cave x, it's normal to have less fps in tamriel

 

freeze moving aroud the camera, it's texture swapping

you enter a house, there's 1gb to load, there's 500 mb left, game unload unused texture to load new ones, you leave the house, there's 1.4 gb to load, game unload house unused textures to load back the textures that just go unload

it's much slower with a fragmented hdd, than with a sdd

and that's reduced by optimising textures (custom race follower come with fair skin, custom race follower2 come with fair skin, and you use... fair skin, you have 3 fair skin in your ram, you are wasting ram loading doubles)

 

 

whiterun siege it's a dozen npc vs another dozen npc, if vanilla they eat 3 fps, they can eat 10 fps with mods (4k textures, hair replacers, hdt skimpy armors, custom weapons....)

 

with mods like auto unequip ammo, enhanced blood, defeat, wet&cold.... you add stuff to load on those npc

the more stuff to load, the longer it take

it's the same even if you play with a nasa pc

if it's 0.005 sec for the cpu to do a frame, max fps is 120 (if your gpu can keep up)

if it become 0.1 sec to do a frame, max fps is now 10

and if it become 1 because cpu is busy running an infinite loop, fps drop to 1, and you are stuck with the last frame that was rendered

 

[Grey Cloud]

5 hours ago, Neko-Barbare said:

I suggest you to use skse in order to have access to the memory usage for your skyrim. It could smooth yout problem by adding some *precious* FPS.

How will SKSE (Skyrim Script Extender) help with memory usage? If the OP is using mods then presumably they are already using SKSE.

 

 

[HawkEye95]

I already use Crash Fixes and i have downloaded and installed SKSE Plugin Preloader,Beth INI and ENBoost,now it CTDs even more frequently...

[yatol]

1 hour ago, HawkEye95 said:

now it CTDs even more frequently...

and how can you tell that?

you want those ctd to be gone? you have to fix them, yourself, there's no tool to fix whatever mess you did (there's a few topics that tell what to do.... but most just mess around randomly, fail, and tell other their crap is the best, and most follow their crap instead of the few topics that make sense)

 

there's a crash dump topic here, perfect exemple

you just have to search the error in google to find out what is the problem (but no, they post their log, and ask if someone can tell them what they have to fix....)

most dump are c0005, that's ram ctd, because those "experts" failed to configure enb ini right

search enb ini ram in google, you will find a lot of bullshit

you have 10 gb, if you give 10 gb to enbhost.exe (or 15 gb or whatever bullshit you are following), what do you expect will happen, if skyrim.exe is 1 gb and windows 1gb, when enbhost.exe reach 8gb?

it won't unload texture to free ram, you gave it 10 gb, it will keep loading textures in.... ram that doesn't exist, and it's their c0005, ram ctd, 95% of the crash from that section (the other 5%, it's missing master, tbbp armor without tbbp skeleton, empty leveled list, headpart type conflict, if the game can't load something, it's a ctd)

[Grey Cloud]

4 hours ago, HawkEye95 said:

I already use Crash Fixes and i have downloaded and installed SKSE Plugin Preloader,Beth INI and ENBoost,now it CTDs even more frequently...

You were using an ENB so you didn't need ENBoost. If you have Crash Fixes, SKSE Plugin Preloader and ENBoost yet you are still gettting lots of CTDs then either you have one or more of them incorrectly configured or there is something fundamentally wrong with your game installation.

Make sure you removed all the traces of your ENB and then double-check your set up and configration of CF, SPP and ENBoost.