KoolHndLuke Posted May 17, 2019 Author Posted May 17, 2019 3 hours ago, dagobaking said: I'm fairly certain that it's illegal to "help" people commit suicide (finding them guns, etc.). Even in the states with assisted suicide it is highly regulated. I would avoid even hinting to the guy that you will help him do this or you could land in deep shit. I told him I would "look around", not what I would be looking for. Nor did I specifically state any intention of assisting him with his suicide. I just said I wanted to help him in general. He seems to be feeling better since I have asked him for some help with things we can both benefit from. Perhaps is was a lack of purpose that contributed to his acute depression.
Pork Type Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 "Assisted suicide" as a matter of law does not consider the existential travails of otherwise, able-bodied and able-minded people. And I see a whole shit-ton of the latter, kvetching about their various travails... I had a mother who resented my entire existence, and a father who had nary a clue about anything happening around him, or to his kids. But yet, I insist upon existing. Because, Fuck You. Find your existential core, and quit being a whiny ass bitch.
KoolHndLuke Posted June 1, 2019 Author Posted June 1, 2019 Well, I found out what he's really about- manipulation. His real personality started to show through the more I got to know him and the minute he thought he had something on me (leverage) he became a complete asshole. I told him that was fuckin it and to have a happy life while I cut my losses and concentrate on my own shit. Lesson I learned (again)? Most people that say they're going to commit suicide do it for attention/manipulation- which makes them very dangerous because they will drag YOU down to the bottom. People that seriously intend to commit suicide probably won't say anything and just do it.
AKM Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 1. I find myself thinking about my friend who killed herself more than I should in two respects. A. Just 'in general' B. Doing/seeing something and saying to myself "What would she have thought of/she would have really enjoyed... etc." 2. Realization that it was her life to live, and take, as she saw fit. But also 3. As far as we know, we only live once. It's going to be over sooner or later. Being alive means that no matter how bad things are at this moment, there IS a chance for things to get better. Once you're dead, you're dead, and there won't be any possibility of things getting better.
KoolHndLuke Posted June 26, 2019 Author Posted June 26, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 5:03 PM, AKM said: we only live once. It's going to be over sooner or later. Being alive means that no matter how bad things are at this moment, there IS a chance for things to get better. Once you're dead, you're dead, and there won't be any possibility of things getting better. I totally agree. Thank you and well said. There is just so much good stuff to experience in this life and I hope to do just that with whatever time I have left.
AKM Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 Another point that I have noticed: People who feel that their problems can not be overcome do not think in the slightest of those around them who they impact daily, etc., nor about how their contemplated actions would impact those people. Suicide is about the most selfish act there is. I can all but guarantee that, since you're asking about this topic at all, you have the kind of mentality that means that your conscience would eat you alive after the fact if you decided to "help" your friend go through with this. I find it bad enough now, six months later STILL wondering if there was anything further I could have done to prevent that with my friend. I can't even comprehend how I'd feel if the situation had instead been as you describe; if I'd helped her with it. No way in the world.
Plumber Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 17 hours ago, AKM said: People who feel that their problems can not be overcome do not think in the slightest of those around them who they impact daily, etc., nor about how their contemplated actions would impact those people. Why should they? Every person is responsible for their own happiness. If it's true for suicidal people, then it must be true for those who stay behind. 17 hours ago, AKM said: I find it bad enough now, six months later STILL wondering if there was anything further I could have done to prevent that with my friend. No. There was nothing you could have done. Every existing solution to this particular problem is suboptimal at best. You can't blame yourself for not being a wizard.
JimKhan Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 Assisted suicide is a difficult topic to talk about. As much as I would like to help ease someone's suffering (be it mental or physical or both), I cannot bring myself to even recommend they kill themselves. It's human to want to help someone but a line has to be drawn somewhere. I suppose that's why I don't tell anyone that I want some help to end my life, it's not in my place to burden them with something like that. I'm a coward so an accident is my only way out of here.
Plumber Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 On 5/18/2019 at 12:28 PM, Pork Type said: Find your existential core, and quit being a whiny ass bitch. There is no such thing as an "existential core", unless you are talking about kidney stones or something. Meaningless terminology makes your advice useless. Not to mention that being a whiny ass bitch - or, in your case, an overly aggressive hardass - is not inherently bad or good. People are different. People are flawed. And they all end up in the same compost pile.
KoolHndLuke Posted July 1, 2019 Author Posted July 1, 2019 I remembered a movie or story I read about a guy that wanted his friend to help him commit suicide- this was a comedy. So they aren't the brightest two individuals to start with and they come up with all these stupid ideas for doing it. But, something goes wrong every time and they have to come up with something else. Eventually the guy who wants to "check out" changes his mind and wants to live. But the loyal friend- who seems to be getting a kick out of "helping"- ignores this and continues to try and kill him! The story goes on with the once suicidal guy trying like hell to run and hide from the friend who keeps showing up everywhere with some silly way to kill him. It was pretty funny.
Andukar Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, KoolHndLuke said: I remembered a movie or story I read about a guy that wanted his friend to help him commit suicide- this was a comedy. So they aren't the brightest two individuals to start with and they come up with all these stupid ideas for doing it. But, something goes wrong every time and they have to come up with something else. Eventually the guy who wants to "check out" changes his mind and wants to live. But the loyal friend- who seems to be getting a kick out of "helping"- ignores this and continues to try and kill him! The story goes on with the once suicidal guy trying like hell to run and hide from the friend who keeps showing up everywhere with some silly way to kill him. It was pretty funny. So! How its end? Im tired to read all!
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