Guest Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Hi there, I've completely done a reinstall of skyrim and my mods. I've also decided to actually use the profile option in MO, so I can use both CBBE and UUNP. Both profiles use identical ini settings. The problem is... for the CBBE profile, HDT works 100%, no weirdness. It just works, like it should. The UUNP profile, setup exactly identical but on that profile the body is... spazzing... for lack of a better word. The HDT parts are basically constantly triggering without there being a proper reason, I also noticed the UUNP setup having problems using HDT hairs in Racemenu and when jumping the boobs stretch massively. They are both using the same setup, what needed to be changed for CBBE specific and UUNP specific kept seperate, obviously HDT setup like: HDT expansion->AIO HDT vagina (with body selected, naturalistic HDT - slightly)->realistic force-> XPMSE -> SOS. The framerate also doesn't exceed 60 fps (limited through ENB and ipresentinterval =1). The Overwrite files being generated (FNIS, bodyslide etc.), I also put in a seperate "empty nod", at the end of the load order. Anyone any ideas? I think I might've overlooked something... Cheers.
GenioMaestro Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 21 hours ago, jujoco said: HDT setup like: HDT expansion->AIO HDT vagina (with body selected, naturalistic HDT - slightly)->realistic force-> XPMSE -> SOS. Have you solve this problem??? Because maybe your problem is: 21 hours ago, jujoco said: XPMSE -> SOS SOS has an ANCIENT skeleton that MUST be overwritten by XPMSE. XPMSE must overwrite ALL modifications, except when the modder says, in a concrete and concise manner, that its mod must overwrite XPMSE.
Guest Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: Have you solve this problem??? Because maybe your problem is: SOS has an ANCIENT skeleton that MUST be overwritten by XPMSE. XPMSE must overwrite ALL modifications, except when the modder says, in a concrete and concise manner, that its mod must overwrite XPMSE. It sadly still isnt working... I've tried everything I can think of... I did indeed swap around the load order to SOS > XPMSE to be sure, but it still happens... Also reran FNIS (using XXL not sure if that matters, still below 10k anims, 9856 to be exact, but the CBBE setup works). Also emptied out the overwrite folder, just in case, reran FNIS and everything... new save aaand still HDT not working as it should
GenioMaestro Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 21 hours ago, jujoco said: The HDT parts are basically constantly triggering without there being a proper reason, I also noticed the UUNP setup having problems using HDT hairs in Racemenu and when jumping the boobs stretch massively. Then, your problem can be the hair. Try disable your HDT Hair mod and try again. I see some patch for some HDT hair. If you have the patch's try dissale it. Maybe you have some collisions from HDT Body to HDT Hair. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70363 https://www.loverslab.com/topic/63835-ks-hairdos-hdt-conflict/
Guest Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: Then, your problem can be the hair. Try disable your HDT Hair mod and try again. I see some patch for some HDT hair. If you have the patch's try dissale it. Maybe you have some collisions from HDT Body to HDT Hair. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70363 https://www.loverslab.com/topic/63835-ks-hairdos-hdt-conflict/ Awesome, I literally had the same idea Just tried it without those and still doing weird stuff... To be sure Im now made a "debug" profile. Going to ONLY use the stuff needed for HDT to see if maybe some mod somewhere is conflicting, Ill keep you updated! EDIT: Debug profile works just fine... I'm going to recheck without the hair mods as you suggested (kinda strange, it used to work on my "old" install), and see what happens then!
Nazzzgul666 Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 On 4/1/2019 at 9:07 PM, jujoco said: Awesome, I literally had the same idea Just tried it without those and still doing weird stuff... To be sure Im now made a "debug" profile. Going to ONLY use the stuff needed for HDT to see if maybe some mod somewhere is conflicting, Ill keep you updated! EDIT: Debug profile works just fine... I'm going to recheck without the hair mods as you suggested (kinda strange, it used to work on my "old" install), and see what happens then! I've learned that it isn't necessarily the entire mod that is problematic but single hair. Switching from one to another both from KS hairdos went from "spasming all the time" to "none at all". So if you didn't use the same in both profiles, that might be a reason. Another idea would be that CBBE has the collision at slightly different places and it's enough to make the difference if it's happening with the same hair. And: the SoS->XPMSE problem is not related to the load order. It's entirely the install order that matters, i.e reinstall if you use NMM, move it on the left side if you use MO, no idea about Vortex. Probably reinstall too.
Grey Cloud Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 46 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said: And: the SoS->XPMSE problem is not related to the load order. That would have been my suggestion too - (re)install (the latest) XPMSE and let it overwrite all. Another option would be to change the xml file for the UUNP profile for another and see if that makes it any happier.
Guest Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 On 4/3/2019 at 1:55 PM, Nazzzgul666 said: I've learned that it isn't necessarily the entire mod that is problematic but single hair. Switching from one to another both from KS hairdos went from "spasming all the time" to "none at all". So if you didn't use the same in both profiles, that might be a reason. Another idea would be that CBBE has the collision at slightly different places and it's enough to make the difference if it's happening with the same hair. And: the SoS->XPMSE problem is not related to the load order. It's entirely the install order that matters, i.e reinstall if you use NMM, move it on the left side if you use MO, no idea about Vortex. Probably reinstall too. Ah yes, should've been more clear I'm using Mod Organizer 2, if I understand it correctly, changing the priority of the mod should fix it, right? So XPMSE was at 19, SOS at 36. I moved SOS to 19, XPMSE to 20. i think you might be on to something there, with the hair. They both use a different style. I'm about to go check and test again NOTE: CBBE profile also spazzing when using the UUNP character looks through racemenu (pretty sure it might be hair related as you said). On 4/3/2019 at 2:39 PM, Grey Cloud said: That would have been my suggestion too - (re)install (the latest) XPMSE and let it overwrite all. Another option would be to change the xml file for the UUNP profile for another and see if that makes it any happier. I'll try that out as well, good idea! Also worth noting perhaps, my "old" mod install I was still using my older graphics card (gtx 980), also upgraded that to a 1660ti (tho vsync should cover that, limited to 60). Things I'm going to try in a bit, not in order: - hairstyle check; > Also on the debug profile, to be sure - checking load order; > Possibly put all the HDT stuff at the end, see if that helps. - lower FPS limit a little more eg 59. Anyways, greatly appreciate you guys/galls helping out with this! ? EDIT: Well... I found the problem and I facepalmed real hard... In hindsight it makes total sense that it started to trip out... because... I downloaded an HDT mod from the SSE page instead of the LE page. Removed it and everything works fine. First time for everything I guess XD
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