REDFACTION Posted March 8, 2019 Author Posted March 8, 2019 In today's previews I would like to talk about hair, skin fat and muscles contraction. Hair Physics Hair Physics provides a lot of realism compared to vanilla static hair, especially for long hair. This preview focuses on its behavior during fast movements and short stops. Spoiler 10_hair.mp4 TITAN Fullbody Collisions makes hair collide with the female head and shoulders. It also makes hair stroking possible and realistic. Skin fat Physics While skin fat concern both genders, it is mostly noticeable with the female pelvis area which includes the belly, the love handles, the butt and the thighs. I wanted this area done in a way that we actually feel that there is fat. We saw it jiggling in the TITAN Fullbody Physics preview. In this preview, I would like to show you how skin fat behaves when we sit down or when we push our thighs against a flat surface. Spoiler 12_thighs.mp4 Muscles Contraction Muscles contraction affects the man pectorals and both gender’s butt. On the following preview, you can see how the man’s pectorals swell under effort. At the end, the man also contracts his butt. Spoiler 14_contraction.mp4 It could be used for workout animations at the gym, or when the man is grabbing the woman's hips in doggy, we could see him thighten his muscles before giving her a good pounding. There are plenty of possibilities. What are your ideas ? ? 13
Guest Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 A work of art! Very well demonstrated. I'm impressed.?
Redd99 Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 Incredible work! I assume in the final version the penis will not be permanently erect.
sexicindi Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 Great work, on everything! Loving the effects on the fat jiggle, and the penis being springy just looks amazing! Will it ever be planned to make physics on fatter man chest, or it's never gonna have a chance? Just wondering. xoxo
DarkAudit Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 How would the hair physics work with medium length hair, like some of the pageboy bob cuts? Would they get a bounce animation? Hair like hers, for example... Looking forward to seeing TITAN in game. Looks awesome so far.
jack11l Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 I love the idea and the project, I'm currently learning to make animations (currently I only know how to make poses) because I'm new to blender and I'm learning to use the tools because I've always used cinema4d, hopefully good news of the project in the future it's one of the two mods that I look forward to in the future (the second is multiplayer mod) and I have a question, will you make physical clothing as well?
GECK.O Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 The fat and muscle physics are incredible, I never saw anything like this in video games. This is the world first I guess. Im just wondering whatever is it possible to be implemented into TS4??? Or is it just a tech demo, something that you still need to find out how to implement it into the game?
0xAF Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/7/2019 at 9:19 PM, REDFACTION said: My bad ! I forgot to say because it was obvious to me that everything I'm showing to you in blender works the exact same in game. well... prove it right now it's look like you are trying to gain attention and then launch patreon to take money and run hope I'm wrong 3
Neighborhood Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 Show in Game.. this blender shit doesn't mean anything... Sounds good but IS it good..
BuddaBoy Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 Well, color me impressed with this proof of concept, but I like many others would like to see this all applied in the game engine and not just blender. I suppose that will be a reveal before the Patron opening ( best show in-game before asking funds, my 2 cents anyways ). I do worry however of the application of such "physics" to in-game oblects such as clothing, I see clipping in the future along with skin layers make-up, modded hair styles an furniture. The sex is all fine and good but it's not just that within the sims 4. Again I applaude the innovation going on, but I just see more issues in the future once this does go live.
ladykatherine Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 Wow this is so exciting!!! I've been waiting for something like this :-)
Uncle D Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 @REDFACTION Fucking hell! I DEFINITELY WILL SUPPORT THIS! Very good, too incredible!
BreadPuddle Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 On 3/9/2019 at 8:54 PM, ChiraqGaming773 said: Show in Game.. this blender shit doesn't mean anything... Sounds good but IS it good.. Cm'on man Chill... They've already stated that this will be free for all, patron or not and that they're saving the in-game photos for later. This isn't costing you or forcing you to do anything. No need to get disrespectful. @REDFACTION Your work is amazing, I can already see all the effort and hard work you've put into this and I cannot wait to see more! You have my full support. I'm also sorry if some are being a bit... much. There have been people in the past that have taken advantage of the community here or have just up and disappeared without any updates to their work so some are still on edge from that I guess. I don't see that in you at all and definitely believe in what you're doing. I understand this is a HUGE task and it's going to require some patience from us but just the fact that you're trying to tackle this alone... That's amazing and I really appreciate it all! 10
Trollirious Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Can't wait to see this on chubby sims! I wish you all the good luck on this ? 1
Yoxgg04 Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 LOVE ♥ i also wonder if physics will work for all hair or just the pony tail.
alexlll Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 Bonjour! Loverslab again earned, time to upload new previews!
heartbeatsandbrainwaves Posted March 11, 2019 Posted March 11, 2019 1. I assume that this mod will be friendly towards Sims with gender diverse and queer bodies? I don't see why it would not be, but you have only shown cis/dyadic Sims in previews, so I wanted to double check! 1.5 Will animated vulvas be supported? I have some old and super unfinished things related to that, if you want? I don't know if it would be any good to you, but I am pretty open to having my WIPs reused, so just let me know. 2. One big problem with WW is animation clipping with chubby Sims. Some EA animations can avoid it to a degree, but most WW animations are trapped in clipping hell. Is this something your system will avoid? Do we get chubby Sims with cute bouncing bellies? 2
REDFACTION Posted March 12, 2019 Author Posted March 12, 2019 I apologize for the late update. As all of us I'm having a lot of trouble accessing the site. I will answer to everyone and will post the late previews when LoversLab will be back up. 10
alexlll Posted March 12, 2019 Posted March 12, 2019 It may take a long time. Update information in the morning. 1
REDFACTION Posted March 12, 2019 Author Posted March 12, 2019 Last Sunday's topic was about kinematics and today's topics are enhanced breasts and penis skin. I'm going to talk about all three topics today to get back in the race ? Kinematics Kinematics stands for how helpful the rig is when you need to animate specific movements. For standing up animations, standard rigs are already very helpful in their actual state. But, if you wish for example to make a doggy style animation, there is no way (as far as I know) to pin the woman’s knees to the ground so they don’t move. Animators actually spend a lot of time to adjust their position manually so you feel like her knees don’t move, but they do. TITAN Kinematics provides tools to pin one or both knees in the position you like. At the beginning of the preview, I’m showing a man doing back and forth movements in doggy with one knee on the ground. Next, the preview shows a woman in doggy with both her knees pinned. Spoiler 15_kinematics.mp4 While the main purpose of kinematics is to release animators from tedious work, look how it also makes the doggy style feel just right. The rig is “aware” that her knees are pinned on the ground and it makes all the difference. TITAN Hair Grip and TITAN Elbow Lock work the same way : they provide tools so you can animate situations where the woman’s head is fetched, or where the sims are resting on a table on their elbows. (Next previews in a new post because of 100mb attachment limit) 3
REDFACTION Posted March 12, 2019 Author Posted March 12, 2019 Enhanced Breasts Thanks to Denton47 we can already animate the breasts. Some rigs (like Dagger or Nanashi) even have breasts physics. While this was a great achievement, I never was satisfied with the result. Firstly, with only 2 bones to animate the breasts, you can’t compress them : they will move towards each other but they will keep their original shape and volume. Secondly, old breasts physics was very weird, bounced excessively, penetrated the female body and the breasts didn’t gave the feeling of beeing “full”. TITAN Expanded Bones increases breasts bones from 2 to 8. TITAN Fullbody Physics provides realistic breasts bouncing : now we do feel like they are somewhat heavy. TITAN Collisions makes sure that the breasts don’t penetrate the female body, and allow animators to make the sims touch, compress or push them up. Spoiler 03_breasts.mp4 Last but not least, this improvement is totally retro-compatible : your old animations will still play the exact same they did before, even if they don’t contain the new bones’ animation. Penis Skin I give a lot of attention to the details. I think they can make an animation go from good to excellent. For instance taking the penis, and especially the masturbation, I always thought that we lacked some visual effect showing the penis skin coming back and forth with hands movements. TITAN Fullbody Physics makes penis skin sensitive to touches. Check out the difference with this feature turned on and off in the last part of the preview. On .Noir. Pornstar Cock the effect is mostly noticeable at the penis base. Spoiler 05_penis_skin.mp4 While penis physics already does 90% of the work, enabling penis skin physics brings that little extra purists are looking for. Again, there is nothing to animate and all of this is fully automatic. I hope you enjoyed the previews ? see you on the 15th for the next one. 5
REDFACTION Posted March 12, 2019 Author Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/7/2019 at 5:43 PM, Rann2 said: You're awesome and your mod looks great. On 3/8/2019 at 1:29 AM, SeymourM said: That's perhaps the most impressive project presentation I've seen. On 3/8/2019 at 5:56 AM, doxian said: OMG!!!!! THANK YOU! CANT W8 FOR TITAN RIG On 3/8/2019 at 6:09 PM, Zheur said: A work of art! Very well demonstrated. I'm impressed. On 3/8/2019 at 10:28 PM, Redd99 said: Incredible work! On 3/9/2019 at 6:25 AM, sexicindi said: Great work, on everything! On 3/10/2019 at 3:22 AM, GECK.O said: The fat and muscle physics are incredible, I never saw anything like this in video games. This is the world first I guess. On 3/10/2019 at 11:36 AM, ladykatherine said: Wow this is so exciting!!! I've been waiting for something like this ? On 3/10/2019 at 2:37 PM, Uncle D said: Fucking hell! I DEFINITELY WILL SUPPORT THIS! Very good, too incredible! On 3/11/2019 at 6:55 AM, BreadPuddle said: Your work is amazing, I can already see all the effort and hard work you've put into this and I cannot wait to see more! You have my full support. On 3/11/2019 at 3:37 PM, nicko99 said: Great work. I look forward to release. Highly!!! Thank you all. I'm glad you like it so far ? On 3/10/2019 at 3:22 AM, GECK.O said: Im just wondering whatever is it possible to be implemented into TS4??? Or is it just a tech demo, something that you still need to find out how to implement it into the game? Everything I'm showing to you in blender works in game ? On 3/8/2019 at 5:20 AM, Too_Funky1987 said: this will be AMAZING but it will take up a heck of a lot of RAM, I think I admit I have a gaming computer. I have no idea what will be the impact on performances on lower rigs. It plays smoothly for me. I didn't see any difference. On 3/7/2019 at 6:21 PM, alexlll said: Animations in ww are designed for a standard body, fat characters look wrong. What will be in your mod? On 3/9/2019 at 6:25 AM, sexicindi said: Will it ever be planned to make physics on fatter man chest, or it's never gonna have a chance? Just wondering. xoxo On 3/11/2019 at 8:10 AM, Trollirious said: Can't wait to see this on chubby sims! I wish you all the good luck on this ? On 3/11/2019 at 11:41 AM, heartbeatsandbrainwaves said: 2. One big problem with WW is animation clipping with chubby Sims. Some EA animations can avoid it to a degree, but most WW animations are trapped in clipping hell. Is this something your system will avoid? Do we get chubby Sims with cute bouncing bellies? The TITAN rig is indeed designed for characters with a standard body, for both the animation and the physics simulation. It means that like for any custom animation, you will get unfortunate clipping in game on fat sims. BUT, Zheur brought to my attention that Dagger successfully solved this issue and provided a procedure to avoid clipping. I didn't see this awesome discovery from Dagger and it is not implemented in TITAN. I don't think it will be implemented before release because there are plenty of stuff to do already, but this is for sure something I will study ? On 3/8/2019 at 10:28 PM, Redd99 said: Incredible work! I assume in the final version the penis will not be permanently erect. This is something I would like to do as well but I didn't start my investigations yet. I will keep you posted about that ? On 3/9/2019 at 11:23 AM, DarkAudit said: How would the hair physics work with medium length hair, like some of the pageboy bob cuts? Would they get a bounce animation? Hair like hers, for example... On 3/11/2019 at 8:46 AM, Yoxgg04 said: LOVE ♥ i also wonder if physics will work for all hair or just the pony tail. Let me explain you a few things in order to answer to your question : Fristly, there is no physics in The Sims 4. The physics must be simulated in blender and then recorded within the animation. This means that the physics is simulated once and for all whatever the hair the sims have. For now : my pony tail physics is as a consequence the only hair physics available. All my animations will include pony tail hair physics. If you are using this hairstyle you will see the physics. If you are using another hairstyle, it will behave normally without physics. In order to make hair physics available for all hairstyle, we must : Find a way to equip the hair as an object instead of a CAS part Find a way to unequip the CAS part and replace it by its object counterpart each time you start an animation Develop a batch to simulate all hairstyles physics for every animation Every time an animator will create an animation with TITAN, there will be one file for the animation and one file for each hairstyle. So let's say we support 10 hairstyles, that requires 10x physics simulation and 10 hairstyle animations files, for each animation. You have got it : that's a hell of a work ? but it's absolutely doable if we automate it with scripts and batchs. On 3/10/2019 at 1:00 AM, jack11l said: will you make physical clothing as well? It's a ready-to-implement feature in TITAN ? but it won't be implemeted for now because I'm unfortunatly restricted by the 180 bones cap. The TITAN rig is already +45 bones above the cap and I cannot go further without seriously impacting the game. I will talk about clothes physics in a dedicated post later. On 3/10/2019 at 4:38 AM, 0xAF said: it's look like you are trying to gain attention and then launch patreon to take money and run hope I'm wrong You are wrong, but you are free to think whatever you want. Please just keep your doubts for yourself until you get convinced, and you will ? On 3/10/2019 at 5:54 AM, ChiraqGaming773 said: this blender shit doesn't mean anything... I worked one year to make the shit you are talking about. Please be respectful. On 3/10/2019 at 10:28 AM, BuddaBoy said: I do worry however of the application of such "physics" to in-game oblects such as clothing, I see clipping in the future along with skin layers make-up, modded hair styles an furniture. The sex is all fine and good but it's not just that within the sims 4. Let me get into the technical details again if you don't mind : For the physics to be displayed in game, the mesh must have the new TITAN bones weight paint. Presently, if your sims is wearing clothes, you won't see any physics because the bones are not weight painted. For now I'm working with Hiroki's Better Body and .Noir.'s Pornstar Cock. If Hiroki and .Noir. allow me to publish a modified version of their mesh, you will get the physics I'm showing to you in blender for your naked sims. For the physics to be displayed on other meshes such as the clothes, we must convert them by weight painting the new TITAN bones. This will be an ongoing work everyone will be able to do once the mod is released. I will write a tutorial on how to do it and we will share our convertions on a dedicated thread ? On 3/11/2019 at 6:55 AM, BreadPuddle said: @REDFACTIONI'm also sorry if some are being a bit... much. There have been people in the past that have taken advantage of the community here or have just up and disappeared without any updates to their work so some are still on edge from that I guess. I don't see that in you at all and definitely believe in what you're doing. I understand this is a HUGE task and it's going to require some patience from us but just the fact that you're trying to tackle this alone... That's amazing and I really appreciate it all! Thank you very much for your support BreadPuddle ? On 3/11/2019 at 11:41 AM, heartbeatsandbrainwaves said: 1. I assume that this mod will be friendly towards Sims with gender diverse and queer bodies? I don't see why it would not be, but you have only shown cis/dyadic Sims in previews, so I wanted to double check! 1.5 Will animated vulvas be supported? I have some old and super unfinished things related to that, if you want? I don't know if it would be any good to you, but I am pretty open to having my WIPs reused, so just let me know. 1. My mod requires to define a "giver" and a "receiver" which are for now the man and the woman because I'm a selfish heterosexual ? but I do considerate the other communities and this is something I need to work on. May I ask you to send me through PM the mechanisms you would like to see ? 1.5. There is indeed an animated vagina. Yes you can send me your work I will take a look ? 5
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