Can anyone help with my load order? POP MCM not showing up, animations not working right.

KuriousK · February 17, 2019

Hi! I'm not sure exactly what I've done wrong as I THINK I've installed everything needed by Sexlab, POP, et cetera, but the animations during sex scenes don't mesh at all. (I.E, victim is standing while aggressor goes to town, or they're closer but still too far apart to actually make contact.] Also, POP has pillories in town, but no MCM menu and selecting 'I submit, take me to jail' just makes the guard non-aggressive and walk away. I'd love advice if anyone could offer some. Thanks for any help! Load order below:

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0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
7 7 WM Flora Fixes.esp
8 8 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm
10 a ApachiiHair.esm
11 b GeneralDisplays.esm
12 c GeneralDisplays - DB.esm
13 d GeneralDisplays - DG.esm
14 e BSAssets.esm
15 f BSHeartland.esm
16 10 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
17 11 BS_DLC_patch.esp
18 12 Campfire.esm
19 13 SexLab.esm
20 14 Devious Devices - Assets.esm
21 15 SexLabAroused.esm
22 16 Devious Devices - Integration.esm
23 17 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
24 18 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
25 19 Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
26 1a Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
27 1b daymoyl.esm
28 1c GeneralStores.esm
29 1d HighResTexturePack01.esp
30 1e HighResTexturePack02.esp
31 1f HighResTexturePack03.esp
32 20 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
33 21 Cutting Room Floor.esp
34 22 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
35 23 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
36 24 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
37 25 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
38 26 RLO - Interiors.esp
39 27 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
40 28 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
41 29 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
42 2a CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
43 2b Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
44 2c Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
45 2d Immersive Weapons.esp
46 2e aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
47 2f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
48 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
49 31 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
50 32 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
51 33 TrueStorms.esp
52 34 TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
53 35 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
54 36 CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
55 37 Differently Ebony.esp
56 38 FNIS.esp
57 39 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
58 3a RaceMenu.esp
59 3b RaceMenuPlugin.esp
60 3c RLO - Effects.esp
61 3d Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
62 3e SkyUI.esp
63 3f SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
64 40 SOSRaceMenu.esp
65 41 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
66 42 TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp
67 43 XPMSE.esp
68 44 RydinMaleUnderwear.esp
69 45 UnderPants.esp
70 46 MatureSkinComplexions.esp
71 47 Bikini-MTM.esp
72 48 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
73 49 DeadlyCombat.esp
74 4a Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
75 4b SimplyKnock.esp
76 4c 3DNPC.esp
77 4d Book Covers Skyrim.esp
78 4e RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
79 4f ETaC - Complete.esp
80 50 JKs Skyrim Major Cities.esp
81 51 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
82 52 RLO - Exteriors.esp
83 53 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
84 54 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
85 55 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
86 56 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
87 57 SoS - The Wilds.esp
88 58 SoS - Civilization.esp
89 59 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
90 5a hearthfireextended.esp
91 5b LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
92 5c TheChoiceIsYours.esp
93 5d Inconsequential NPCs.esp
94 5e CinematicFireFX.esp
95 5f SMIM-Merged-All.esp
96 60 Run For Your Lives.esp
97 61 RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
98 62 Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
99 63 RLO - CRF Patch.esp
100 64 TradeBarter.esp
101 65 Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp
102 66 imp_helm_legend.esp
103 67 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
104 68 Cloaks.esp
105 69 Frostfall.esp
106 6a Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
107 6b Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
108 6c SFO - Dragonborn.esp
109 6d SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
110 6e RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
111 6f The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
112 70 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
113 71 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
114 72 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
115 73 ESFCompanions.esp
116 74 ETaC - Complete RSC Patch.esp
117 75 RSChildren.esp
118 76 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp
119 77 Beards.esp
120 78 Brows.esp
121 79 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
122 7a mortenhairs.esp
123 7b Newhairpack.esp
124 7c BSHeartland - Meshes.esp
125 7d BSHeartland - Textures.esp
126 7e IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
127 7f dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
128 80 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
129 81 ClimatesOfTamriel-BS-Patch.esp
130 82 SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp
131 83 RND_BSHeartland.esp
132 84 BSHeartlandFRF.esp
133 85 Hedge Mage Armor - Craftable Module.esp
134 86 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
135 87 RND_ETaC-Patch.esp
136 88 iHUD.esp
137 89 SexLabDefeat.esp
138 8a SLAnimLoader.esp
139 8b Devious Devices - Equip.esp
140 8c Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
141 8d RealisticWaterTwo.esp
142 8e RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
143 8f RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
144 90 RLO - IC Patch.esp
145 91 Skyrim Unbound.esp

Tara26 · February 18, 2019

I'm not an expert, but until one of those shows up, can I ask if you use LOOT? It checks your load order for you and will even spot hidden requirements that may be missing.

Available from NEXUS here:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1918

It is in the SSE files library, but supports Oldrim as well.

-T

KuriousK · February 18, 2019

Yup, I used LOOT and this is the order it gave me. Sorry, I should have said that in the first place!

***Psalam*** · February 18, 2019

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6 hours ago, KuriousK said:

Yup, I used LOOT and this is the order it gave me. Sorry, I should have said that in the first place!

If you've run LOOT you should know if you are missing a requirement since LOOT shows those in red.

Since your issue is with animations the FNIS output would likely be helpful. Simply run FNIS. Copy everything it produces in the upper half of its box (this usually starts with a description of your skeleton and ends with the number of animations which you have successfully loaded. Once copied, paste it here.

By the way, walls of text, pictures and videos are all best placed in spoilers. This speeds up the loading of the thread (in other words when you don't do this the thread will be loaded more slowly and eventually only at a crawl). So, this is how it's done (ignore the rest of this post if you already knew this). On the bar across the top of the area in which you post (which starts with "Size" and "Font") about halfway across you will find an icon that looks like an eye (it is just to the right of the smiley face emoji icon). Click on this to open a spoiler (like the one I started this post with). Then type or paste any information in the box (the cursor is normally in there when you open the spoiler but, if not, you can use your mouse to move it there). When you're done, simply click outside the box and hit "Enter" once or twice, and you can resume typing.

KuriousK · February 18, 2019

Thanks Psalam, went ahead and spoilered the load order, totally forgot to! And below is the info from FNIS:

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FNIS Behavior V7.4.5 2/18/2019 6:18:53 AM
Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"

Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00 ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 164 alternate animations) ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ...
Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ...
Reading SexLab V1.62 ...
Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ...
Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ...
Reading Defeat V5 ( 0 furniture, 2 offset, 3 paired, 1 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ...
Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 102 alternate animations) ...
Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 330 alternate animations) ...
Reading DD V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 493 alternate animations) ...

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
Alternate Animation mods: 4 sets: 41 total groups: 180 added file slots: 1388 alternate files: 1089

Creature Pack not installed

5675 animations for 18 mods successfully included (character)

Grey Cloud · February 18, 2019

Do you have any animation packs loaded? I can see SLAL but no actual packs for it.

Your plug-in list is a mess. You have patches for nearly everything including things you don't have; mods doing the same thing; 7 million weather and and lighting mods; and more.

***Psalam*** · February 18, 2019

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1 hour ago, KuriousK said:

Thanks Psalam, went ahead and spoilered the load order, totally forgot to! And below is the info from FNIS:

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FNIS Behavior V7.4.5 2/18/2019 6:18:53 AM
Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"

Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00 ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 164 alternate animations) ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ...
Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ...
Reading SexLab V1.62 ...
Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ...
Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ...
Reading Defeat V5 ( 0 furniture, 2 offset, 3 paired, 1 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ...
Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 102 alternate animations) ...
Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 330 alternate animations) ...
Reading DD V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 493 alternate animations) ...

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
Alternate Animation mods: 4 sets: 41 total groups: 180 added file slots: 1388 alternate files: 1089

Creature Pack not installed

5675 animations for 18 mods successfully included (character)

While I have some sympathy for Grey Cloud's assessment I'd like to focus on some cognitive dissonance of my own while I stay focused on what you see as the issue. You show FunnyBiz' animations in the FNIS output but not your load order. Does one or the other require updating (as in has something changed)?

When you say the victim isn't involved in the animation is the victim always the player? An NPC? A creature? Or some combination of the above?

Lots of other mods interfere with POP. If getting that mod to work properly is a priority you will likely need to move it further down in your load order.

KuriousK · February 18, 2019

Grey Cloud: I have the funnybizzness Slalpack installed, though I don't see it in the load order as an esp either, which is odd. I installed it via mod organizer. Can I ask specifically what you see that overlaps and does the same thing? I know in one case I have a patch for something I don't need (RND Skyrim patch esp, which I just disable since it installs with the plugin and requires the old version of USLEEP.) I also disabled one of the storm mods, didn't realize I had so many! I'll be honest, I mostly downloaded what an ENB setup told me to, in terms of graphics mods.

Psalam: I don't think they need updating, as I've only downloaded them in the last few days, but I've run FNIS multiple times to no avail. And sorry, I should have clarified - the victim in this case is always the PC. There are only NPCs and the PCs involved in the animations, no creatures. I tried moving POP to the bottom of the load order but unfortunately, still no MCM menu.

Sorry for the mess, guys - I try to keep an eye on how things interact and I do read the compatibility and requirements stuff, I don't mean to go in all higgledy-piggledy. It's just been a long time since I've played/modded Skyrim or used Loverslab stuff.

Grey Cloud · February 18, 2019

22 minutes ago, KuriousK said:

Can I ask specifically what you see that overlaps and does the same thing?

79 4f ETaC - Complete.esp
80 50 JKs Skyrim Major Cities.esp

You also have a couple of flower mods.

I don't use Funnybiz animations but it is strange that it is installed but not showing. Maybe it doesn't use an esp?

Can you start a sex act without involving POP? You could also try starting a sex act and opening the console to see if there are any messages about unsupported actor or whatever.

KuriousK · February 18, 2019

I thought Expanded Towns and Cities only covered little, unwalled towns like Riverwood, Morthal, Rorikstead and such, while the JK version I downloaded covers the major walled cities like Markarth and Whiterun? The two shouldn't overlap, at least not from what I've read. I'll look into ditching a flower mod or two, though, as I do have a lot of them.

Yes, I think that must be the case because I tested again using Defeat to start a sex act and it does seem to use the animations (and this time did it properly for the most part! Yay!) so I assume Funnybiz stuff IS installed and working. The animations go a little funky still (NPC halfway in the ground in one scene) but they're definitely closer now to what I expected out of them, so I'd call that a good thing, and the other ones worked. I'll try the console next and see what it says!

(Also, starting a sex scene weirdly had a deer come up close (despite me having no creature animations enabled, at all) and just... staring at the act. Head nodding up and down. Very weird. Please let my PC get raped in peace, deer.)

I'm still having no luck at all with POP, though, which is a shame because I used it a year or two ago and really enjoyed it then.

Grey Cloud · February 18, 2019

12 minutes ago, KuriousK said:

Expanded Towns and Cities

Might be a clue in the title? Personally I use JK's Skyrim Lite as it has bug fixes and uses less resources than the JK's Cities original. I don't like ETaC as it add trees and plants everywhere.

You should get a message in the top left corner telling you which animation is being played. SexLab has its own animations so it could be one of those which played. Funnybiz's are too violent for me but you could try either reinstalling Funnybiz or trying a different pack, e.g. Billyy's.

I can't really help much more as I don't use MO, POP, DD or Defeat.

I wouldn't bother about the deer, stuff like that happens.

donttouchmethere · February 18, 2019

10 hours ago, Psalam said:

You show FunnyBiz' animations in the FNIS output but not your load order.

FunnyBiz SLAL esp will only show up in load order if the optional animated objects from the Fuzpack are installed:

SLALAnimObj.esp

(furniture animations, dildos n stuff)

Grey Cloud · February 18, 2019

2 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

SLALAnimObj.esp

Ah, I thought that esp was involved somewhere. It's been a while since I had FB's pack installed.

donttouchmethere · February 18, 2019

16 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Ah, I thought that esp was involved somewhere. It's been a while since I had FB's pack installed.

it's the only AnimObj.esp I know of that is not properly named (all others have the modders name in it)

and who wouldn't won't to install those furniture animations ?

Grey Cloud · February 18, 2019

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

or trying a different pack, e.g. Billyy's

Not a good choice, it's big*. Better to try one of the smaller packs for testing.

* Great anims though, probably my favourite pack.

donttouchmethere · February 18, 2019

On 2/18/2019 at 12:09 AM, KuriousK said:

POP

for POP/SUM/DDe

make sure you have the newest versions of them all

POP 404/SUM 104/DDe 404

and be sure to have:

> Papyrus Util 3.3 => make sure it overwrites all (some mods like SL come with older versions)

> ConsoleUtil 3 => needed for the blindfold effect of DDi, but it also get's recognized by SUM, missing it won't hurt either mod, but also is one less softdependency those mods look for

> Dwarven Devious Curitas => needed for DDe 404 now

if you have all requirements already and the MCM still doesn't show up, make sure:

> if maybe other mods in your load order have issues too. If another mod get's stuck during the mods loading phase it will also prevent POP to load

> you can manually restart POP via MCM... oh wait... you don't have no MCM? ?

> ETaC if not beta => will conflict with POP in Dawnstar because the Prison got moved, if you get arrested there the guard might not know where to bring you (I think you can change the MCM settings of POP to make it compatible, as soon as you have an POP MCM)

> there might be other conficts I don't know of in your load order that make it hard for POP to play a scene

and this doesn't look right:

best too keep DDi,a,x together in load order and ZAZ above and SUM below, every other esm above:

Sexlab

SexLabAroused.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm

donttouchmethere · February 18, 2019

just ideas that might help:

keep the mods+patches together in load order, for example:

mod 1

patches of mod 1 below

SLanimationloader.esm above the SLAL packs

XPMSE below everything that adds animations, make sure it doesn't get overwritten by something

KuriousK · February 19, 2019

Okay, it seems like the sex animations are working better now (I went ahead and redownloaded/reinstalled the funnybiz pack since I do like it, and this time ticked the animobjects for good measure) and I went ahead and tried to regroup my ESMs and ESPs a bit more neatly. However, now I can't seem to load up the game. I start it up, load a save and it either crashes mid-load, crashes ON load or just loads to a black screen with ambient sound. Starting a fresh save however (using COC riverwood) works at first, but after closing the game and trying to reload it I run into the same issue.

I tried reinstalling all the DD things as well as SUM and Papyrus Utility but, unfortunately, no dice on POP still. I also tried, for keeping tabs, reinstalling POP and trying an older version of POP, all with no luck.

Here's the new load order below:

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0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
7 7 WM Flora Fixes.esp
8 8 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm
10 a ApachiiHair.esm
11 b GeneralDisplays.esm
12 c GeneralDisplays - DB.esm
13 d GeneralDisplays - DG.esm
14 e GeneralStores.esm
15 f BSAssets.esm
16 10 BSHeartland.esm
17 11 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
18 12 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
19 13 BS_DLC_patch.esp
20 14 Campfire.esm
21 15 daymoyl.esm
22 16 SexLab.esm
23 17 SexLabAroused.esm
24 18 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
25 19 Devious Devices - Assets.esm
26 1a Devious Devices - Integration.esm
27 1b Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
28 1c Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
29 1d HighResTexturePack01.esp
30 1e HighResTexturePack02.esp
31 1f HighResTexturePack03.esp
32 20 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
33 21 Cutting Room Floor.esp
34 22 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
35 23 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
36 24 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
37 25 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
38 26 RLO - Interiors.esp
39 27 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
40 28 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
41 29 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
42 2a CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
43 2b Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
44 2c Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
45 2d Immersive Weapons.esp
46 2e aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
47 2f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
48 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
49 31 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
50 32 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
51 33 TrueStorms.esp
52 34 TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
53 35 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
54 36 CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
55 37 Differently Ebony.esp
56 38 FNIS.esp
57 39 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
58 3a RaceMenu.esp
59 3b RaceMenuPlugin.esp
60 3c RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
61 3d RLO - Effects.esp
62 3e SkyUI.esp
63 3f The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
64 40 TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp
65 41 MatureSkinComplexions.esp
66 42 Bikini-MTM.esp
67 43 DeadlyCombat.esp
68 44 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
69 45 SimplyKnock.esp
70 46 3DNPC.esp
71 47 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
72 48 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
73 49 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
74 4a RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
75 4b RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
76 4c ETaC - Complete.esp
77 4d ETaC - Complete RSC Patch.esp
78 4e RND_ETaC-Patch.esp
79 4f JKs Skyrim Major Cities.esp
80 50 RLO - Exteriors.esp
81 51 SoS - The Wilds.esp
82 52 SoS - Civilization.esp
83 53 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
84 54 hearthfireextended.esp
85 55 LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
86 56 TheChoiceIsYours.esp
87 57 Inconsequential NPCs.esp
88 58 SMIM-Merged-All.esp
89 59 SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp
90 5a Run For Your Lives.esp
91 5b CinematicFireFX.esp
92 5c RLO - CRF Patch.esp
93 5d RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
94 5e Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
95 5f TradeBarter.esp
96 60 Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp
97 61 Frostfall.esp
98 62 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
99 63 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
100 64 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
101 65 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
102 66 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
103 67 imp_helm_legend.esp
104 68 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
105 69 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
106 6a SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
107 6b SFO - Dragonborn.esp
108 6c The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
109 6d Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
110 6e ESFCompanions.esp
111 6f RSChildren.esp
112 70 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp
113 71 Beards.esp
114 72 Brows.esp
115 73 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
116 74 mortenhairs.esp
117 75 Newhairpack.esp
118 76 BSHeartland - Meshes.esp
119 77 BSHeartland - Textures.esp
120 78 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
121 79 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
122 7a dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
123 7b ClimatesOfTamriel-BS-Patch.esp
124 7c RND_BSHeartland.esp
125 7d BSHeartlandFRF.esp
126 7e Hedge Mage Armor - Craftable Module.esp
127 7f RealisticWaterTwo.esp
128 80 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
129 81 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
130 82 RLO - IC Patch.esp
131 83 Skyrim Unbound.esp
132 84 iHUD.esp
133 85 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
134 86 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
135 87 SOSRaceMenu.esp
136 88 RydinMaleUnderwear.esp
137 89 UnderPants.esp
138 8a Devious Devices - Equip.esp
139 8b SLAnimLoader.esp
140 8c SLALAnimObj.esp
141 8d SexLabDefeat.esp
142 8e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
143 8f xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
144 90 XPMSE.esp

donttouchmethere · February 19, 2019

11 hours ago, KuriousK said:

Here's the new load order below:

Wrong patches can mess your game up a lot, as Grey Cloud already pointed out:

you sure your weather mods are all compatible with burma?

if you have so many mods that need patches you have to be realy careful to get them in the right order

weather and light mods might conflict unless you get them right

RND needs an USLEEP patch or it will revert the USLEEP changes back, there is one on nexus that can disguise himself as USKP patch^^

with that massive mods like burma and sexlab n stuff you use crash fixes (rise script count limit) and ENBoost?

are your mods compatible with cuttion room floor or do you need more patche sfor that?

ETaC changes a lot of lights in interiors, careful with with load order

ETaC says it doesn't change anything on citys, but IIRC I had a lot of issues with solitude and ETaC and Prison (POP)

uff, it would take me weeks alone to get the weather and light mods into the right order (LOOT is very bad at that)

and don't forget:

if you start a new game,

after all mods are loaded => start sexlab first => save/reload => register SLAL => save and reload

use an alternative mod to start skyrim like LAL, like that you have enough time to load all mods

in addition, don't use the vanilla start

***Psalam*** · February 19, 2019

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11 hours ago, KuriousK said:

Okay, it seems like the sex animations are working better now (I went ahead and redownloaded/reinstalled the funnybiz pack since I do like it, and this time ticked the animobjects for good measure) and I went ahead and tried to regroup my ESMs and ESPs a bit more neatly. However, now I can't seem to load up the game. I start it up, load a save and it either crashes mid-load, crashes ON load or just loads to a black screen with ambient sound. Starting a fresh save however (using COC riverwood) works at first, but after closing the game and trying to reload it I run into the same issue.

I tried reinstalling all the DD things as well as SUM and Papyrus Utility but, unfortunately, no dice on POP still. I also tried, for keeping tabs, reinstalling POP and trying an older version of POP, all with no luck.

Here's the new load order below:

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0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
7 7 WM Flora Fixes.esp
8 8 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm
10 a ApachiiHair.esm
11 b GeneralDisplays.esm
12 c GeneralDisplays - DB.esm
13 d GeneralDisplays - DG.esm
14 e GeneralStores.esm
15 f BSAssets.esm
16 10 BSHeartland.esm
17 11 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
18 12 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
19 13 BS_DLC_patch.esp
20 14 Campfire.esm
21 15 daymoyl.esm
22 16 SexLab.esm
23 17 SexLabAroused.esm
24 18 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
25 19 Devious Devices - Assets.esm
26 1a Devious Devices - Integration.esm
27 1b Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
28 1c Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
29 1d HighResTexturePack01.esp
30 1e HighResTexturePack02.esp
31 1f HighResTexturePack03.esp
32 20 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
33 21 Cutting Room Floor.esp
34 22 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
35 23 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
36 24 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
37 25 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
38 26 RLO - Interiors.esp
39 27 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
40 28 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
41 29 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
42 2a CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
43 2b Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
44 2c Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
45 2d Immersive Weapons.esp
46 2e aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
47 2f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
48 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
49 31 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
50 32 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
51 33 TrueStorms.esp
52 34 TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
53 35 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
54 36 CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
55 37 Differently Ebony.esp
56 38 FNIS.esp
57 39 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
58 3a RaceMenu.esp
59 3b RaceMenuPlugin.esp
60 3c RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
61 3d RLO - Effects.esp
62 3e SkyUI.esp
63 3f The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
64 40 TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp
65 41 MatureSkinComplexions.esp
66 42 Bikini-MTM.esp
67 43 DeadlyCombat.esp
68 44 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
69 45 SimplyKnock.esp
70 46 3DNPC.esp
71 47 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
72 48 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
73 49 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
74 4a RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
75 4b RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
76 4c ETaC - Complete.esp
77 4d ETaC - Complete RSC Patch.esp
78 4e RND_ETaC-Patch.esp
79 4f JKs Skyrim Major Cities.esp
80 50 RLO - Exteriors.esp
81 51 SoS - The Wilds.esp
82 52 SoS - Civilization.esp
83 53 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
84 54 hearthfireextended.esp
85 55 LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
86 56 TheChoiceIsYours.esp
87 57 Inconsequential NPCs.esp
88 58 SMIM-Merged-All.esp
89 59 SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp
90 5a Run For Your Lives.esp
91 5b CinematicFireFX.esp
92 5c RLO - CRF Patch.esp
93 5d RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
94 5e Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
95 5f TradeBarter.esp
96 60 Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp
97 61 Frostfall.esp
98 62 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
99 63 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
100 64 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
101 65 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
102 66 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
103 67 imp_helm_legend.esp
104 68 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
105 69 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
106 6a SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
107 6b SFO - Dragonborn.esp
108 6c The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
109 6d Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
110 6e ESFCompanions.esp
111 6f RSChildren.esp
112 70 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp
113 71 Beards.esp
114 72 Brows.esp
115 73 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
116 74 mortenhairs.esp
117 75 Newhairpack.esp
118 76 BSHeartland - Meshes.esp
119 77 BSHeartland - Textures.esp
120 78 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
121 79 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
122 7a dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
123 7b ClimatesOfTamriel-BS-Patch.esp
124 7c RND_BSHeartland.esp
125 7d BSHeartlandFRF.esp
126 7e Hedge Mage Armor - Craftable Module.esp
127 7f RealisticWaterTwo.esp
128 80 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
129 81 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
130 82 RLO - IC Patch.esp
131 83 Skyrim Unbound.esp
132 84 iHUD.esp
133 85 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
134 86 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
135 87 SOSRaceMenu.esp
136 88 RydinMaleUnderwear.esp
137 89 UnderPants.esp
138 8a Devious Devices - Equip.esp
139 8b SLAnimLoader.esp
140 8c SLALAnimObj.esp
141 8d SexLabDefeat.esp
142 8e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
143 8f xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
144 90 XPMSE.esp

I've been saying this a lot lately (maybe I need to get a stamp - wait! that's old school print!). Anyway, any time you change your load order you need to run LOOT and FNIS (and correct any errors that they find) and START A NEW GAME. Your old load will continue to have "stuff" in it that will cause you problems. Try a new game and see if your animations aren't "up to snuff."

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Can anyone help with my load order? POP MCM not showing up, animations not working right.

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