trebor666 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Recently wiped my computer so I'm doing a clean install of Skyrim. i used to use NMM but I'm now using MO2. when i try and launch my game i hear the sound for the Bethesda logo and then the main menu music kicks in but my screen stays black. the game is not frozen, I can use the arrow keys to manipulate the menu, I just have no visual. When i remove ZAZ animation pack i get visuals back. I've tried installing a memory fix but it still doesn't work. Any guidance would be very appreciated. Here is my current mod list and ENBlocal.ini settings in case that helps. Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm hdtHighHeel.esm PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp EpisodeParallax.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Shadows - Dawnguard.esp Shadows - Skyrim.esp SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp Shadows - Weather Tweaks.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Vivid Landscapes.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Brows.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp SkyUI.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp Cross Racial Features.esp KS Hairdo's.esp FNIS.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuLE.esp Real Flying.esp Captured Dreams.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp Laura's Bondage Shop.esp SofiaFollower.esp DeviousFollowers.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp Morning Fogs.esp The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp RosaFollower.esp FastTravelBook.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp Spoiler [PROXY] EnableProxyLibrary=false InitProxyFunctions=true ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll [GLOBAL] UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true UseDefferedRendering=false IgnoreCreationKit=true [PERFORMANCE] SpeedHack=true EnableOcclusionCulling=true [MEMORY] ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true DisableDriverMemoryManager=false DisablePreloadToVRAM=false EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false ReservedMemorySizeMb=128 VideoMemorySizeMb=4662 EnableCompression=false AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false [THREADS] DataSyncMode=0 PriorityMode=0 EnableUnsafeFixes=false [MULTIHEAD] ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false VideoAdapterIndex=0 [WINDOW] ForceBorderless=false ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false [ENGINE] ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true MaxAnisotropy=10 ForceLodBias=false LodBias=0.0 AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false EnableVSync=true VSyncSkipNumFrames=0 [LIMITER] WaitBusyRenderer=false EnableFPSLimit=false FPSLimit=10.0 [INPUT] //shift KeyCombination=16 //f12 KeyUseEffect=123 //home KeyFPSLimit=36 //num / 106 KeyShowFPS=106 //print screen KeyScreenshot=44 //enter KeyEditor=13 //f4 KeyFreeVRAM=115 //B KeyBruteForce=66 KeyDepthOfField=118 [ADAPTIVEQUALITY] Enable=true Quality=1 DesiredFPS=20.0 [ANTIALIASING] EnableEdgeAA=false EnableTemporalAA=false EnableSubPixelAA=false [FIX] FixGameBugs=true FixParallaxBugs=true FixParallaxTerrain=false FixAliasedTextures=true IgnoreInventory=true FixTintGamma=true RemoveBlur=false FixSubSurfaceScattering=true FixSkyReflection=true FixCursorVisibility=true FixLag=false [LONGEXPOSURE] EnableLongExposureMode=false Time=1.0 BlendMax=0.0 EDIT: changed post to remove links to 3rd party sites and included info in spoiler tags
Psalam Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Spoiler 10 hours ago, trebor666 said: Recently wiped my computer so I'm doing a clean install of Skyrim. i used to use NMM but I'm now using MO2. when i try and launch my game i hear the sound for the Bethesda logo and then the main menu music kicks in but my screen stays black. the game is not frozen, I can use the arrow keys to manipulate the menu, I just have no visual. When i remove ZAZ animation pack i get visuals back. I've tried installing a memory fix but it still doesn't work. Any guidance would be very appreciated. Here is my current mod list and ENBlocal.ini settings in case that helps. https://modwat.ch/u/zombiebub/plugins https://pastebin.com/B3SDnj1D First thing that comes to mind would be too many animations (if removing an animation pack seems to solve the problem). If you want to post your output from FNIS I'd be happy to confirm or deny it. Run FNIS. Copy everything that FNIS generates (should start with a description of your skeleton and end with how many animations were successfully loaded) and paste it on this thread. Off topic: when you ask a question here the people who read it have the expectation that all needed information will be posted here on the site. No offense is intended but it is simple computer security. I don't want to open a file of unknown provenance and even less do I want to go to a third party site to open files (no matter how secure you may feel that they are). If you don't know how to do it or to use spoilers here on LoversLab (LL) simply ask.
trebor666 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Posted January 14, 2019 12 hours ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents First thing that comes to mind would be too many animations (if removing an animation pack seems to solve the problem). If you want to post your output from FNIS I'd be happy to confirm or deny it. Run FNIS. Copy everything that FNIS generates (should start with a description of your skeleton and end with how many animations were successfully loaded) and paste it on this thread. Off topic: when you ask a question here the people who read it have the expectation that all needed information will be posted here on the site. No offense is intended but it is simple computer security. I don't want to open a file of unknown provenance and even less do I want to go to a third party site to open files (no matter how secure you may feel that they are). If you don't know how to do it or to use spoilers here on LoversLab (LL) simply ask. Here is my FNIS log Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.4.5 14/01/2019 6:37:29 PM Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: Unknown (99 bones) male: Unknown (99 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ( 14 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ( 276 furniture, 45 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading XPMSE V7.2 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 164 alternate animations) ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ... Reading SexLab V1.62 ... Reading RealFlying V1.00 ... Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ... Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ... Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V6.3 ( 0 furniture, 1 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading DeviousFollowers V1.00 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 34 alternate animations) ... Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 102 alternate animations) ... Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 330 alternate animations) ... Reading DD V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 493 alternate animations) ... All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... No GENDER directory male No GENDER directory female Alternate Animation mods: 5 sets: 46 total groups: 185 added file slots: 1428 alternate files: 1123 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... 4586 animations for 15 mods successfully included (character) 322 animations for 1 mods and 18 creatures successfully included. 0 possible consistence issues thanks for taking a look. As for the outside links sorry about that. In researching trying to fix the problem myself I saw that's how people were posting that info on other sites so i assumed it was the norm. Now i know for next time.
Grey Cloud Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Nothing to do with your problem but you don't need the GENDER Specific Animations box ticked and you need to reinstall XPMSE skeleton and let it overwrite all. It will show as: Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" rather than: Skeleton(hkx) female: Unknown (99 bones) male: Unknown (99 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Might be an MO2 issue, some people say it's not good with LE Skyrim. Do you hear the sound of a driver failing (a blip-blip)? You could try updating your video drivers if it's not MO2.
Psalam Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Spoiler 10 hours ago, trebor666 said: Here is my FNIS log Hide contents FNIS Behavior V7.4.5 14/01/2019 6:37:29 PM Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: Unknown (99 bones) male: Unknown (99 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ( 14 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ( 276 furniture, 45 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading XPMSE V7.2 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 164 alternate animations) ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ... Reading SexLab V1.62 ... Reading RealFlying V1.00 ... Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ... Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ... Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V6.3 ( 0 furniture, 1 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading DeviousFollowers V1.00 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 34 alternate animations) ... Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 102 alternate animations) ... Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 330 alternate animations) ... Reading DD V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 493 alternate animations) ... All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... No GENDER directory male No GENDER directory female Alternate Animation mods: 5 sets: 46 total groups: 185 added file slots: 1428 alternate files: 1123 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... 4586 animations for 15 mods successfully included (character) 322 animations for 1 mods and 18 creatures successfully included. 0 possible consistence issues thanks for taking a look. As for the outside links sorry about that. In researching trying to fix the problem myself I saw that's how people were posting that info on other sites so i assumed it was the norm. Now i know for next time. What Grey CLoud said is entirely correct. You do NOT have too many animations (even with 1123 alternate animations). Your skeleton is likely your issue. Whatever mod manager you use try moving XPMSE to the end of your load order (just before alternate start). Make certain that your skeleton is up to date. It should be the current one by Groovtama. The version on LoversLab can be found here: If you go to download it (sometimes deleting the old and adding the new works) the version you want is on the top (the one on the bottom is for SE). When you're done run FNIS again. As Grey Cloud said, the description of your skeleton should have 115 bones. If it does, and there are no warnings or errors listed, and you've moved the skeleton down your load order try to start the game again and let us know what happens.
trebor666 Posted January 18, 2019 Author Posted January 18, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 4:54 AM, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents What Grey CLoud said is entirely correct. You do NOT have too many animations (even with 1123 alternate animations). Your skeleton is likely your issue. Whatever mod manager you use try moving XPMSE to the end of your load order (just before alternate start). Make certain that your skeleton is up to date. It should be the current one by Groovtama. The version on LoversLab can be found here: If you go to download it (sometimes deleting the old and adding the new works) the version you want is on the top (the one on the bottom is for SE). When you're done run FNIS again. As Grey Cloud said, the description of your skeleton should have 115 bones. If it does, and there are no warnings or errors listed, and you've moved the skeleton down your load order try to start the game again and let us know what happens. Finally had time to bash my head against this for a bit. Still have not solved the problem. when i run FNIS i initially get an error about missing temporary files so i thought i must have missed an install step. found a youtube video about how to set it up and apparently there is a built in FNIS tool for MO2. set that up but it doesn't output a log like the regular FNIS windowed exe so I'm not sure if its giving the same skeleton issue. i think at this point I'm going to have to try a different mod manager.
Psalam Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 Spoiler 5 hours ago, trebor666 said: Finally had time to bash my head against this for a bit. Still have not solved the problem. when i run FNIS i initially get an error about missing temporary files so i thought i must have missed an install step. found a youtube video about how to set it up and apparently there is a built in FNIS tool for MO2. set that up but it doesn't output a log like the regular FNIS windowed exe so I'm not sure if its giving the same skeleton issue. i think at this point I'm going to have to try a different mod manager. Fore has said, for as long as there has been an FNIS, that it doesn't work right with MO. However, whether you change and to what are entirely up to you. If at any point you want further help just let me know and be prepared to post another copy of your FNIS output.
trebor666 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Posted January 19, 2019 Ok so i found the proper way to make FNIS run in MO2 but I'm still getting a black screen on launch. Here is the new FNIS log Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.4.5 18/01/2019 7:24:51 PM Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ( 14 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ( 276 furniture, 45 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading XPMSE V7.2 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 164 alternate animations) ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ... Reading SexLab V1.62 ... Reading RealFlying V1.00 ... Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ... Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ... Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V6.3 ( 0 furniture, 1 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading DeviousFollowers V1.00 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 34 alternate animations) ... Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 102 alternate animations) ... Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 330 alternate animations) ... Reading DD V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 493 alternate animations) ... All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... No GENDER directory male No GENDER directory female Alternate Animation mods: 5 sets: 46 total groups: 185 added file slots: 1428 alternate files: 1123 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... 4586 animations for 15 mods successfully included (character) 322 animations for 1 mods and 18 creatures successfully included. 0 possible consistence issues looks like it has the proper skeleton now. Does anyone have some suggestions for mod managers for legacy skyrim? i used to use NMM i liked the simplicity of it and i don't use multiple profiles so that's kinda a wasted feature for me.
Psalam Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 Spoiler 11 hours ago, trebor666 said: Ok so i found the proper way to make FNIS run in MO2 but I'm still getting a black screen on launch. Here is the new FNIS log Hide contents FNIS Behavior V7.4.5 18/01/2019 7:24:51 PM Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ( 14 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ( 276 furniture, 45 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading XPMSE V7.2 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 164 alternate animations) ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ... Reading SexLab V1.62 ... Reading RealFlying V1.00 ... Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ... Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ... Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V6.3 ( 0 furniture, 1 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading DeviousFollowers V1.00 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 34 alternate animations) ... Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 102 alternate animations) ... Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 330 alternate animations) ... Reading DD V4.0.0 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 493 alternate animations) ... All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... No GENDER directory male No GENDER directory female Alternate Animation mods: 5 sets: 46 total groups: 185 added file slots: 1428 alternate files: 1123 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... 4586 animations for 15 mods successfully included (character) 322 animations for 1 mods and 18 creatures successfully included. 0 possible consistence issues looks like it has the proper skeleton now. Does anyone have some suggestions for mod managers for legacy skyrim? i used to use NMM i liked the simplicity of it and i don't use multiple profiles so that's kinda a wasted feature for me. FNIS output look okay. So, let's go back a step. Run LOOT and see if it gives you any errors. Or, if you are using NMM still, look for mods that show up in red on your mod list.
GenioMaestro Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 1:23 AM, trebor666 said: when i try and launch my game i hear the sound for the Bethesda logo and then the main menu music kicks in but my screen stays black. the game is not frozen, I can use the arrow keys to manipulate the menu, I just have no visual. When i remove ZAZ animation pack i get visuals back. I've tried installing a memory fix but it still doesn't work. Any guidance would be very appreciated. You say "but my screen stays black" and i need ask because you can have two diferent problems. Your screen is really black??? Totally black??? Or maybe you see the smoke moving... If you see the smoke and listen the music but not have main menu is a problem caused by a mod. Remove mod's until locate the problem. If you have a really black screen totally black can be a problem in the graphics resolution configuration of the game. You can try change the graphics resolution of the game with Skyrim Launcher. Or can download BethIni for manage the INI files. Also, you can manually RENAME skyrim.ini and skyrimpref.ini If you are ussing NMM go to Documents\My Games\Skyrim and RENAME skyrim.ini and skyrimpref.ini If you are ussing MO you must RENAME the INI files located in the [PROFILE] of MO. In my machine are located in: D:\Games\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default The game auto generate new files when start it. Launch the game and look if problem is solved. Finally can be a problem in the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor. If you have a monitor in 21/9 or a refresh rate over 60 hz that can give some problems with some old games because can not support it. One option is configure the game for windowed mode with Skyrim Launcher or BethIni Other option is change the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor to standard full hd of 1920x1080 at 60 hz.
trebor666 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Posted January 22, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 8:07 AM, GenioMaestro said: You say "but my screen stays black" and i need ask because you can have two diferent problems. Your screen is really black??? Totally black??? Or maybe you see the smoke moving... If you see the smoke and listen the music but not have main menu is a problem caused by a mod. Remove mod's until locate the problem. If you have a really black screen totally black can be a problem in the graphics resolution configuration of the game. You can try change the graphics resolution of the game with Skyrim Launcher. Or can download BethIni for manage the INI files. Also, you can manually RENAME skyrim.ini and skyrimpref.ini If you are ussing NMM go to Documents\My Games\Skyrim and RENAME skyrim.ini and skyrimpref.ini If you are ussing MO you must RENAME the INI files located in the [PROFILE] of MO. In my machine are located in: D:\Games\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default The game auto generate new files when start it. Launch the game and look if problem is solved. Finally can be a problem in the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor. If you have a monitor in 21/9 or a refresh rate over 60 hz that can give some problems with some old games because can not support it. One option is configure the game for windowed mode with Skyrim Launcher or BethIni Other option is change the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor to standard full hd of 1920x1080 at 60 hz. Hi, The screen is totally black no smoke loading graphic or anything. I can hear the music for the main menu and i can use the menu options with the arrow keys but i get zero visuals. I've narrowed it down to zaz animation pack i tried the legacy version 7 and the new version 8 but whenever i install one i lose all visuals. On 1/19/2019 at 6:56 AM, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents FNIS output look okay. So, let's go back a step. Run LOOT and see if it gives you any errors. Or, if you are using NMM still, look for mods that show up in red on your mod list. I get no error messages from LOOT just a few warnings for mods that should be cleaned.
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