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[SOLVED] NPCs with darkened body textures


Gawdzila

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I am having a very odd problem with certain NPCs in my game having body textures that are darker than normal, causing very obvious neck seams.  There are no other visual anomalies with the textures, such as the triangle pattern that you often get with memory issues.

 

The oddest thing is that the issue seems to persist no matter what textures or meshes I use, nor which mods are or aren't affecting the given NPCs.  If I change the body textures being used the problem simply migrates to the new textures, even if I unload every mesh and texture being used and revert to vanilla assets.  Other NPCs, even ones standing right next to them that are using the same assets, can remain unaffected.

 

All the NPCs I've noticed being affected (so far only a handful) are in the Pandorable's NPCs mod -- however, not everyone in the mod is affected.  Also, Pandorables affects a LOT of NPCs, and it uses vanilla assets in any case, so it seems likely that it is unrelated.  I also noticed that none of the NPC mods I have that contain their own assets (i.e. Bijin, The Ordinary Women) have been affected.

 

Here are some pictures of what is going on:

 

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Here you can see that I have unloaded all body textures, and that there is another NPC using the same assets that remains unaffected:

 

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Here is the same problem happening on the same NPCs with different textures (also, the Pandorable's NPCs mod is acting on Hillevi and Niranye in the background).

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I am using MO2 and I have made sure that my Overwrite folder is empty.

Does anyone have any clue what might be going on??  I'd really appreciate any insight, I can't figure this one out ?

Thanks!

 

BTW, here's my load order:

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  7  7     BSAssets.esm
  8  8     BSHeartland.esm
  9  9     FISS.esp
 10  a     RaceCompatibility.esm
 11  b     EFFCore.esm
 12  c     ApachiiHair.esm
 13  d     MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
 14  e     Campfire.esm
 15  f     FlowerGirls SE.esm
 16 10     BBLuxurySuite.esm
 17 11     RSkyrimChildren.esm
 18 12     JSwords.esm
 19 13     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 20 14     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 21 15     XPMSE.esp
 22 16     dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
 23 17     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 24 18     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 25 19     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 26 1a     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
 27 1b     SkyUI_SE.esp
 28 1c     UIExtensions.esp
 29 1d     RaceMenu.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 31 1f     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 32 20     EFFDialogue.esp
 33 21     RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
 34 22     icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
 35 23     Minerva.esp
 36 24     Player Size Adjuster.esp
 37 25     The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
 38 26     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 39 27     Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
 40 28     Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
 41 29     KS Hairdo's.esp
 42 2a     Beards.esp
 43 2b     FacelightPlus.esp
 44 2c     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 45 2d     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 46 2e     ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 47 2f     ELFXEnhancer.esp
 48 30     Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
 49 31     TerrainLodRedone.esp
 50 32     BlendedRoads.esp
 51 33     CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp
 52 34     SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
 53 35     MajesticMountains.esp
 54 36     MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
 55 37     Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
 56 38     Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
 57 39     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
 58 3a     RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
 59 3b     SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp
 60 3c     J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp
 61 3d     Perks need no requirements.esp
 62 3e     Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp
 63 3f     DoubleBedsAreForTwoPeople.esp
 64 40     LessDragons10.esp
 65 41     UnreadBooksGlow.esp
 66 42     Run For Your Lives.esp
 67 43     Toggle Vampire Attacks_SSE.esp
 68 44     PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp
 69 45     Simple AUA.esp
 70 46     BetterMagicLights.esp
 71 47     LongerLightDuration.esp
 72 48     Housecarls Have Lives.esp
 73 49     Brighter toggleable Candlelight and Torches.esp
 74 4a     Brujoloco-candlepatch.esp
 75 4b     Vivid WeathersSE.esp
 76 4c     Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp
 77 4d     Balanced Magic SE.esp
 78 4e     AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
 79 4f     My Home Is Your Home.esp
 80 50     Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
 81 51     matedrestedwolf.esp
 82 52     Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
 83 53     Visible Favorited Gear.esp
 84 54     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 85 55     dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
 86 56     dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
 87 57     VioLens SE.esp
 88 58     Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
 89 59     stop-being-a-creepy-stalker-aerin-1-0-pingy.esp
 90 5a     Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp
 91 5b     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 92 5c     Vidani's Bag of Holding.esp
 93 5d     lighter pickaxes & woodcutter axes.esp
 94 5e     InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
 95 5f     GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
 96 60     imp_helm_legend.esp
 97 61     imp_helm_USSEP.esp
 98 62     Cloaks.esp
 99 63     Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
100 64     Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
101 65     1nivWICCloaks.esp
102 66     BetterArchmagesRobes.esp
103 67     KTABladeOfWoe.esp
104 68     NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp
105 69     Divine Aegis.esp
106 6a     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
107 6b     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
108 6c     BloodWitchArmor.esp
109 6d     Contractor Armor.esp
110 6e     DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp
111 6f     Evil MasterMind Armor.esp
112 70     Mavari Armor.esp
113 71     Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp
114 72     StormLord.esp
115 73     TheHermit.esp
116 74     Pockholz.esp
117 75     LignumVitaeHeavyArmor1.0.esp
118 76     JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
119 77     JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
120 78     TheLily.esp
121 79     Tribunal Robes for SSE.esp
122 7a     ESO Altmer Armor by NewrMind43.esp
123 7b     Warmth Armors Standalone.esp
124 7c     BetterStaffofMagnus.esp
125 7d     Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
126 7e     Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
127 7f     Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
128 80     Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
129 81     Billyro's Weapons.esp
130 82     Runed_Nordic_Weapons.esp
131 83     BetterGauldurAmulet.esp
132 84     Unique Uniques.esp
133 85     DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp
134 86     aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
135 87     Skysan_AMB_CAPatch.esp
136 88     Skysan_Stalhrim.esp
137 89     ISD_Dragonspear.esp
138 8a     Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp
139 8b     ElvarheimsWeapons.esp
140 8c     isilNarsil.esp
141 8d     Herugrim.esp
142 8e     ISD_Longclaw.esp
143 8f     MithrodinSword.esp
144 90     Orcrist.esp
145 91     AncientTonguesSwords.esp
146 92     tamu75GreatSword.esp
147 93     TW3Weaponry.esp
148 94     icebladeofthemonarch.esp
149 95     FS_UltimateAssortment.esp
150 96     Armory of Favored Soul.esp
151 97     ArmoryFSShields.esp
152 98     SwordsmanAssortment_SE_Eng.esp
153 99     skyforgedWeapons.esp
154 9a     skyforgedShields.esp
155 9b     CL Ebonyblade.esp
156 9c     CL BladeofSacrifice.esp
157 9d     CL Nettlebane.esp
158 9e     AlbionSwords.esp
159 9f     kimono's witcher silver swords.esp
160 a0     AlexScorpion's SnakeBow.esp
161 a1     Zikoru Swords.esp
162 a2     Ecotone Dual Sheath.esp
163 a3     Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp
164 a4     FNIS.esp
165 a5     BBLS_SKSE64_Patch.esp
166 a6     BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp
167 a7     FlowerGirls SE - Bathing Beauties Patch.esp
168 a8     TheChieftain.esp
169 a9     HireableHousecarlHearth.esp
170 aa     FreckleMania2.esp
171 ab     Immersive Weapons.esp
172 ac     AddItemMenuSE.esp
173 ad     Unique Character.esp
254 FE   0 1nivWICCloaks_SMP_Patch.esp
254 FE   1 Cloaks_SMP_Patch.esp
174 ae     FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp
175 af     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
176 b0     RSChildren.esp
177 b1     RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp
178 b2     ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
179 b3     TCoW Improvement.esp
180 b4     IB - All-in-One.esp
181 b5     PAN_NPCs.esp
182 b6     The Ordinary Women.esp
183 b7     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
184 b8     Bijin Wives.esp
185 b9     Bijin NPCs.esp
186 ba     AelaSylvanMK.esp
187 bb     Toccata as Elisif.esp
188 bc     MBWSFollowersReplacer.esp
189 bd     NPCReplacerOriella_mirz619.esp
190 be     NPCReplacerNarriAndTekla_mirz619.esp
191 bf     NPCReplacerGhorza_mirz619.esp
192 c0     Serana.esp
193 c1     Valerica.esp
194 c2     LonelyKarliah.esp
195 c3     Aeri.esp
196 c4     SofiaFollower.esp
197 c5     Sofia Uses Custom Body Meshes.esp
198 c6     EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
199 c7     EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
200 c8     Vilja's Armor.esp
201 c9     Gylla the Nightingale.esp
202 ca     zMirai.esp
203 cb     Mirai Clothing Fixes.esp
204 cc     CaesiaFollower.esp
205 cd     FlowerGirls SE - Caesia.esp
206 ce     LiviaFollower.esp
207 cf     Ambriel.esp
208 d0     AnnaNPCs.esp
209 d1     AnnaNPCs-WhiteWaterInn-3.0.4.esp
210 d2     Recorder Follower Base.esp
211 d3     Recorder Follower Patch.esp
212 d4     tumbamounts.esp
213 d5     NPCVisualTransfer.esp
214 d6     NPC Skins.esp
215 d7     ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
 

 

 

... and my mod list:

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#Mod_Priority #Mod_Name
0 DLC: HearthFires
1 DLC: Dawnguard
2 DLC: Dragonborn
4 CK Scripts
5 SKSE Scripts 2.0.10
6 SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin)
7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch
8 Mfg Fix
9 Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes
10 Modern Brawl Bug Fix
11 FISSES - Skyrim SE
12 PapyrusUtil SE
13 RaceCompatibility with fixes for SSE
14 JContainers64
15 Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice
16 SkyUI
17 Better MessageBox Controls
18 UIExtensions
19 A Quality World Map
20 RaceMenu
21 BodySlide and Outfit Studio
22 BodySlide Bodies & Presets SSE Conversion
23 DM Athletic (Fitness model body) - CBBE Bodyslide Preset
24 FABulous - Fair and Balanced BodySlide Preset
25 LF CBBE Custom BodySlide Preset
27 Natural And Realistic Bodies (BodySlide Presets - Medium Bounce)
29 Mirai Bodyslides - CBBE
32 HDT-SMP hdtSSEFramework 1.5.53
33 HDT-SMP hdtSSEPhysics 1.5.53
34 HDT-SMP Physics Config
37 Tempered Skins for Males - Dressed Version (With Meshes)
39 Schlongs of Skyrim SE HDT-SMP
40 Complete Male Overhaul - Balanced (Hairy)
42 Milkdrinker Male Normal Maps (Better Males)
55 Unique Character
56 Unique Character Patch
58 XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended
59 The Eyes Of Beauty SSE
60 The Eyes Of Beauty SSE (NPC Replacer)
62 Improved Eyes Skyrim
63 Maevan2's Eye Brows (SE)
65 Freckle Mania 2
66 ApachiiSkyHair SSE
67 KS Hairdos SSE
68 Beards (1K)
69 LH's HD Face Scars Remaster 1K
70 Tintmasks - Real Women of Skyrim Lips & Makeup
71 Tintmasks - Mature Skin 2 Lips
72 Tempered Skins for Males - Tintmasks
73 Complexions (Female) - Mature Skin 2
75 Better Complexion
76 Improved Eye Reflections and Cube Map
77 Eye Normal Map Fix SSE
78 Facelight Plus SE v1.1 (+Better Lighting)
79 Ultimate HD Fire Effects SSE
80 Enhanced Blood Textures
81 Enhanced Lights and FX (Enhancer, Exteriors, Ice Shaders)
82 Unofficial ELFX SMIM Performance Patch
83 Static Mesh Improvement Mod
84 Enhanced Textures Detail (UV-tweaks)
85 Dust Effects by HHaleyy
86 Noble Skyrim - Markarth & Dwemer Ruins
87 Noble Skyrim - Stone & Ice Caves
88 HQ Towns and Villages
89 Terrain LOD Redone
92 Vivid Weathers - Definitive Edition
93 Skyrim SE Improved Puddles
94 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin
95 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin 1K Textures
96 Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods
97 Simply Bigger Trees (With Realistic Aspen Trees)
98 Noble Skyrim - Landscape
99 Osmodius SSE Texture Pack
101 Skyrim 2017 Textures by Pfuscher - Landscape
102 Nordic Snow
103 HQ Tree Bark
104 Blended Roads
105 Majestic Mountains
106 Realistic Water Two
107 White Water HD
108 Water HD
109 Just Ice
111 Noble Skyrim - Whiterun
112 Noble Skyrim - Solitude
113 Noble Skyrim - Riften
114 Noble Skyrim - Winterhold College
115 Noble Skyrim - High Hrothgar
116 Noble Skyrim - Forts
117 Noble Skyrim - Mines
118 Noble Skyrim - The Ratways
119 Noble Skyrim - Ships
120 Noble Skyrim - Clutter
121 Noble Skyrim - Furniture
122 Noble Skyrim - Alchemy Workbench
123 Noble Skyrim - SMIM Patch
125 The Dawnguard - Textures Re-mastered
126 CC's HQ Fort Dawnguard
127 Ruins Clutter Improved SE
128 Forgotten Retex Project
129 RUSTIC CLUTTER COLLECTION - Special Edition
130 High Poly Project (Cabbage Deleted)
131 PELTAPALOOZA - Special Edition
132 Realistic HD Food (Cheese Deleted)
133 RUSTIC COOKING - Special Edition (1K)
135 CC's Enhanced Ore Veins SSE (2K)
136 HD Road Signs (2K)
137 Ancient Dwemer Metal
138 Perks Need No Requirements
139 Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers
140 AddItemMenu SE
141 Ecotone Dual Sheath
142 EFF - Extensible Follower Framework
143 Follower Trap Safety
144 Armor Rating Redux SE
145 Infinite Gold For Merchants
146 Campfire - Complete Camping System
147 Double Beds Are For Two People
148 Player Size Adjuster and First Person Camera Height Fix SSE
149 Realistic Ragdolls and Force (ESP Only)
150 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul (With EFF Patch)
151 Simple Auto Unequip Ammo
152 Unread Books Glow SSE
153 Less Dragons 2018-SSE
154 Run For Your Lives
155 Toggle Vampire Attacks SSE
156 Moonlight Tales Special Edition - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul
157 Faster Transform - To Werewolf and VampireLord
158 Werewolf Lovers Comfort
159 Better Stealth AI for Followers
160 Move it Dammit - SSE
161 VioLens - A Killmove Mod SE
162 Balanced Magic SE
163 Passive Weapon Enchantment Recharging
164 Acquisitive Soul Gems
165 Smaller Ice Spike and Ice Spear
166 Better Magic Lights
167 Brighter Torches and Toggle-able Brighter Candlelight With Color & Brightness Patch
168 Battle Ready Candlelight
169 Magelight Glow Fix
170 Beyond Skyrim - Bruma SE
171 Bathing Beauties or Beefcake - Luxury Suite SE
172 Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer
173 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures
174 Kajuan Textures - Falmer
175 Kajuan Textures - Draugr (2k)
176 Kajuan Textures - Hagraven (2k)
177 Kajuan Textures - Wispmother (2k)
178 Kajuan Textures - Dragon Priest (2k)
179 Kajuan Textures - Skeleton and Human Bones (2k)
180 Kajuan Textures - Mammoth (4k)
181 Kajuan Textures - Giant (4k)
182 Kajuan Textures - Sabrecat (4k)
183 Kajuan Textures - Troll (4k)
184 Ancient Dwemer Automatons
185 Tumbajamba's Mounts
186 Hire Your Own Housecarl
187 Housecarls Have Lives
188 My Home is Your Home (MHiYH 2plus)
189 Ethereal Elven Overhaul (With SE Patch)
190 RS Children Overhaul
191 The College of Winterhold - NPC Improvement v1
192 Improved Bards - Special Edition
193 Pandorable's NPCs (USSEP Patched)
195 The Ordinary Women SSE CBBE
197 Bijin Warmaidens SE
198 Bijin Wives SE
199 Bijin NPCs SE
203 Mirz's NPC Replacer Oriella
204 Mirz's NPC Replacer Narri and Tekla
205 Mirz's NPC Replacer Ghorza gra-Bagol SSE
206 Toccata Follower SE (Elisif Replacer)
207 Seranaholic SSE
208 Seranaholic SSE (Valerica)
209 Lonely Karliah (BSA Version)
210 Aeri of Angas Mill
211 Aela Sylvan Makeover Standalone
212 MBWS Male Housecarl Replacer
213 Gylla the Nightingale - Llewellyn Bard Replacement
216 Stop being a creepy stalker Aerin
217 Sofia - The Funny Fully Voiced Follower
218 Sofia Uses Custom Body Meshes
219 Sofia Customization
220 Vilja in Skyrim
221 Vilja Customizer
224 Recorder - Standalone Fully Voiced Follower
225 Recorder - Bugfix Patch SSE
226 Recorder Customizer
227 Minerva - Custom High Elf Voiced Follower (Converted)
228 Mirai - the Girl with the Dragon Heart
229 Mirai Customizer
230 Mirai Fitted Outfits (CBBE Physics)
231 Caesia Follower - Borne of Magic (FlowerGirls Patch)
232 Caesia Customizer
233 Livia Salvian - Daughter of the High Chancellor (Vanilla Overwrites Removed)
234 Livia Salvian Customizer
235 Ambriel - The Lost Princess
242 Anna NPCs SSE
243 NPC Customization
244 Vidanis Bag of Holding - Cleaned-Up
245 Lighter Pickaxes and Woodcutter Axes
246 Perk Point Book
248 RUSTIC CLOTHING - Special Edition
249 Cloaks of Skyrim SSE
250 Winter Is Coming SSE
251 Artesian Cloaks of Skyrim
252 Better Archmage's Robes - SSE
253 Improved Closedfaced Helmets (With USSEP Patch)
254 Hunting Grounds Outfit - SSE CBBE BodySlide (with Physics)
256 Divine Aegis HD Re-Mastered
257 Immersive Armors
258 Immersive Weapons
260 Dragonbone Ebonsteel Customization
261 Legendary Armor Conversions and Recolors (Mavari, Medusa, et. al.)
262 Lignum Vitae Armor (Light)
263 Lignum Vitae Armor (Heavy)
264 The Lily - Armour Mashup
265 Tribunal Robes and Masks for SSE
266 ESO Altmer Armor
267 ESO Altmer Armour - SSE CBBE BodySlide
268 Warmth - Standalone Light Armors
269 Barenziah's Glory SE
270 A Better Gauldur Amulet
271 Gemling Queen Jewelry SE
272 Circlet Replacers for Women
273 Mage Equipment Overhaul
274 DCR - King Crusader Mega Pack
275 Noldorian Auriel's Equipment
276 Auriel's Bow with Quiver and Arrows - Gold and Argent Retexture
277 Better Staff of Magnus - SSE
278 JaySuS Swords
279 Lore Weapon Expansion SE
280 BillyRo Ultimate Swords Anthology
281 Runed Nordic Weapons
282 Unique Uniques SE
283 Alternate Blade of Woe
284 Skyforge Weapons SSE
285 Skyforge Shields SSE
286 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors
287 aMidianBorn Blades Armor SSE Patch
288 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons
289 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items
290 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC
291 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Content Add-On
292 aMidianBorn Glass With Refraction
293 Refracting Stalhrim Armors and Weapons
294 LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons
295 Zim's Immersive Artifacts V1.4
297 CL's Lord Harkons Blade Replacer
298 CL's Ebony Blade
299 CL's Ebony Weapon Replacer (With Nettlebane & Blade of Sacrifice)
300 Dragonspear
301 Dread Knight Weapons Armory SSE
302 Elvarheim's Weapons
303 Isilmeriel LOTR Weapons Collection SSE
304 LOTR - Herugrim
305 Longclaw
306 Mithrodin Sword
307 Orcrist the Goblin Cleaver
308 Sword of Ancient Tongues
309 Witcher's Steel Sword
310 The Witcher 3 Weaponry SE
311 The Witchers Silver Sword - Standalone
312 Artifacts - The Ice Blade of the Monarch [SSE]
313 Ultimate Assortment by FavoredSoul - SSE
314 Armory of The Favored Soul
315 Swordsman's Assortment SE
316 Albion Swords
317 Albion Swords - The Chieftain
318 SnakeBows SSE
319 Zikoru Swords Collection
320 Flower Girls SE
321 Flower Girls SE - Adventures
322 KSHair for Flower Girls
323 Amorous Adventures (Flower Girls) SSE
324 Bathing Beauties - Flower Girls Patch
334 Visible Favorited Gear
335 Female Facial Animation
336 Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE
338 FNIS Build
339 EveryBodys Different SSE
340 EveryBodys Different Block Lists
344 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - AnTiWoMaAgNoT
345 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Barbarous Beauty
346 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Khmera
347 EBD -  TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Pride of Valhalla
348 EBD -  TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Real Women of Skyrim
349 EBD -  TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - SG Texture
350 EBD -  TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - SKY Texture
351 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Bijin Skin
352 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Demoniac
353 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - FairSkin
355 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Mature Skin
356 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - True Daughters of Skyrim
359 VNPC_Data
360 NPC Visual Transfers

 

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Thanks for the replies, this was very helpful!

 

The ENB fix idea was some nice thinking outside the box, but unfortunately that was a no-go; enabling the fix seemed to have very little effect on anything for me.

 

Also, none of the NPCs I've seen affected are also in the Bijin mods, however, you were on the right track!  Disabling just the Bijin mods didn't work, but I took your idea a little further and simply disabled all of my NPC/follower mods, and the problem went away!  With some testing I tracked it down to The Ordinary Women.  This surprised me because, although both Pandorables and TOW do affect those NPCs, 1) there are other NPCs in TOW that have overlap with Pandorables, and that had no problem at all, 2) I had completely deleted the NPC records for those NPCs from the TOW plugin, and 3) TOW doesn't overwrite or even use any vanilla skin texture assets.

 

So, now I have it isolated!  Now I just need to figure out how this mod is altering these particular NPCs when the plugin doesn't even have any NPC records for them.

Any ideas? lol

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26 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

What is this?

Oh, that's a little plugin of my own that I created via SSEEdit.  It contains an assortment of non-replacing armor add-ons that reference textures and meshes in non-vanilla locations, and has just a handful of NPC records to distribute them.  None of the NPC records overlap with any of the NPCs that are having problems.

 

Disabling that was one of the very first things I did in my initial troubleshooting; my assumption is always that I screwed something up ?

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34 minutes ago, Gawdzila said:

Thanks for the replies, this was very helpful!

 

The ENB fix idea was some nice thinking outside the box, but unfortunately that was a no-go; enabling the fix seemed to have very little effect on anything for me.

 

Also, none of the NPCs I've seen affected are also in the Bijin mods, however, you were on the right track!  Disabling just the Bijin mods didn't work, but I took your idea a little further and simply disabled all of my NPC/follower mods, and the problem went away!  With some testing I tracked it down to The Ordinary Women.  This surprised me because, although both Pandorables and TOW do affect those NPCs, 1) there are other NPCs in TOW that have overlap with Pandorables, and that had no problem at all, 2) I had completely deleted the NPC records for those NPCs from the TOW plugin, and 3) TOW doesn't overwrite or even use any vanilla skin texture assets.

 

So, now I have it isolated!  Now I just need to figure out how this mod is altering these particular NPCs when the plugin doesn't even have any NPC records for them.

Any ideas? lol

 

 

I believe you have been looking at the problem wrong from the beginning (that is why I suggested looking at Bijin). Your problem is not that the bodies are dark but rather that the faces are light. If you look at the screenshots that you posted all the NPCs (to my eye at least) had the same dark (dirty) body. Some just had clean faces. That is why the plugin DOES affect them because it DOES have files for the faces. There is also a section on the modpage describing how to deal with neck seams. here is the beginning (I thought it too much to quote here at length):

 

[Solution to problems]

1. If you has uesd another mod about chaging the appearance of same NPCs,
it may cause the neck seam trouble.
If so, open the command console by pressing the tilde (~) key.
And you have to set their NPC weight by typing the following: setnpcweight [NPC'S WEIGHT]

 

Anyway, good luck and I hope you have fun with your Skyrim game - I surely have.

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1 hour ago, Gawdzila said:

my assumption is always that I screwed something up ?

Then we went to the same trouble-shooting school. ?

 

Like Psalam I saw light faces rather dark bodies. ? It's the facegendata which is getting messed up.

I use several NPC overhauls myself, including TOW, and mostly LOOT does a decent job. What I have is that sometimes it is just a matter of deleting the entry for the NPC from the esp with TESVEdit but sometimes I have to either delete the mesh and texture files for the NPC or manually copy the facegendata (meshes and textures) files over to get everyone looking like I want.

Let me know if that doesn't make sense and I'll try a better explanation.

 

I thought that solution Psalam has posted was for neck gap, not neck seam.

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I believe you have been looking at the problem wrong from the beginning (that is why I suggested looking at Bijin). Your problem is not that the bodies are dark but rather that the faces are light. If you look at the screenshots that you posted all the NPCs (to my eye at least) had the same dark (dirty) body. Some just had clean faces. That is why the plugin DOES affect them because it DOES have files for the faces.

 

Nevermind, scratch everything I just wrote, as I stupidly forgot to disable the EBD patch, which was changing the textures.

You're exactly right, the head texture is being washed out by TOW.

 

With/Without TOW:

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I'm still at a loss as to how this happens with neither an NPC record nor any facegen meshes.

It is clear that the diffuse texture itself is not changing -- all the details in the face and body are the same -- and it is using my vanilla replacer texture, as expected.  It is just totally changing the tint on the face.  ?

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