Gawdzila Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 I am having a very odd problem with certain NPCs in my game having body textures that are darker than normal, causing very obvious neck seams. There are no other visual anomalies with the textures, such as the triangle pattern that you often get with memory issues. The oddest thing is that the issue seems to persist no matter what textures or meshes I use, nor which mods are or aren't affecting the given NPCs. If I change the body textures being used the problem simply migrates to the new textures, even if I unload every mesh and texture being used and revert to vanilla assets. Other NPCs, even ones standing right next to them that are using the same assets, can remain unaffected. All the NPCs I've noticed being affected (so far only a handful) are in the Pandorable's NPCs mod -- however, not everyone in the mod is affected. Also, Pandorables affects a LOT of NPCs, and it uses vanilla assets in any case, so it seems likely that it is unrelated. I also noticed that none of the NPC mods I have that contain their own assets (i.e. Bijin, The Ordinary Women) have been affected. Here are some pictures of what is going on: Spoiler Spoiler Here you can see that I have unloaded all body textures, and that there is another NPC using the same assets that remains unaffected: Spoiler Here is the same problem happening on the same NPCs with different textures (also, the Pandorable's NPCs mod is acting on Hillevi and Niranye in the background). Spoiler I am using MO2 and I have made sure that my Overwrite folder is empty. Does anyone have any clue what might be going on?? I'd really appreciate any insight, I can't figure this one out ? Thanks! BTW, here's my load order: Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 7 7 BSAssets.esm 8 8 BSHeartland.esm 9 9 FISS.esp 10 a RaceCompatibility.esm 11 b EFFCore.esm 12 c ApachiiHair.esm 13 d MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm 14 e Campfire.esm 15 f FlowerGirls SE.esm 16 10 BBLuxurySuite.esm 17 11 RSkyrimChildren.esm 18 12 JSwords.esm 19 13 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 20 14 SOSRaceMenu.esp 21 15 XPMSE.esp 22 16 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 23 17 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 24 18 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 25 19 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 26 1a RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 27 1b SkyUI_SE.esp 28 1c UIExtensions.esp 29 1d RaceMenu.esp 30 1e RaceMenuPlugin.esp 31 1f Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 32 20 EFFDialogue.esp 33 21 RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp 34 22 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp 35 23 Minerva.esp 36 24 Player Size Adjuster.esp 37 25 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 38 26 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 39 27 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp 40 28 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp 41 29 KS Hairdo's.esp 42 2a Beards.esp 43 2b FacelightPlus.esp 44 2c SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 45 2d EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 46 2e ELFX - Exteriors.esp 47 2f ELFXEnhancer.esp 48 30 Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp 49 31 TerrainLodRedone.esp 50 32 BlendedRoads.esp 51 33 CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp 52 34 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp 53 35 MajesticMountains.esp 54 36 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp 55 37 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp 56 38 Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp 57 39 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 58 3a RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 59 3b SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp 60 3c J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp 61 3d Perks need no requirements.esp 62 3e Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp 63 3f DoubleBedsAreForTwoPeople.esp 64 40 LessDragons10.esp 65 41 UnreadBooksGlow.esp 66 42 Run For Your Lives.esp 67 43 Toggle Vampire Attacks_SSE.esp 68 44 PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp 69 45 Simple AUA.esp 70 46 BetterMagicLights.esp 71 47 LongerLightDuration.esp 72 48 Housecarls Have Lives.esp 73 49 Brighter toggleable Candlelight and Torches.esp 74 4a Brujoloco-candlepatch.esp 75 4b Vivid WeathersSE.esp 76 4c Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp 77 4d Balanced Magic SE.esp 78 4e AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp 79 4f My Home Is Your Home.esp 80 50 Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp 81 51 matedrestedwolf.esp 82 52 Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp 83 53 Visible Favorited Gear.esp 84 54 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 85 55 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp 86 56 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp 87 57 VioLens SE.esp 88 58 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 89 59 stop-being-a-creepy-stalker-aerin-1-0-pingy.esp 90 5a Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp 91 5b BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 92 5c Vidani's Bag of Holding.esp 93 5d lighter pickaxes & woodcutter axes.esp 94 5e InigoPerkPointGiver.esp 95 5f GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp 96 60 imp_helm_legend.esp 97 61 imp_helm_USSEP.esp 98 62 Cloaks.esp 99 63 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 100 64 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 101 65 1nivWICCloaks.esp 102 66 BetterArchmagesRobes.esp 103 67 KTABladeOfWoe.esp 104 68 NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp 105 69 Divine Aegis.esp 106 6a Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 107 6b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 108 6c BloodWitchArmor.esp 109 6d Contractor Armor.esp 110 6e DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp 111 6f Evil MasterMind Armor.esp 112 70 Mavari Armor.esp 113 71 Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp 114 72 StormLord.esp 115 73 TheHermit.esp 116 74 Pockholz.esp 117 75 LignumVitaeHeavyArmor1.0.esp 118 76 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp 119 77 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp 120 78 TheLily.esp 121 79 Tribunal Robes for SSE.esp 122 7a ESO Altmer Armor by NewrMind43.esp 123 7b Warmth Armors Standalone.esp 124 7c BetterStaffofMagnus.esp 125 7d Lore Weapon Expansion.esp 126 7e Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp 127 7f Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp 128 80 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp 129 81 Billyro's Weapons.esp 130 82 Runed_Nordic_Weapons.esp 131 83 BetterGauldurAmulet.esp 132 84 Unique Uniques.esp 133 85 DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp 134 86 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 135 87 Skysan_AMB_CAPatch.esp 136 88 Skysan_Stalhrim.esp 137 89 ISD_Dragonspear.esp 138 8a Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp 139 8b ElvarheimsWeapons.esp 140 8c isilNarsil.esp 141 8d Herugrim.esp 142 8e ISD_Longclaw.esp 143 8f MithrodinSword.esp 144 90 Orcrist.esp 145 91 AncientTonguesSwords.esp 146 92 tamu75GreatSword.esp 147 93 TW3Weaponry.esp 148 94 icebladeofthemonarch.esp 149 95 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp 150 96 Armory of Favored Soul.esp 151 97 ArmoryFSShields.esp 152 98 SwordsmanAssortment_SE_Eng.esp 153 99 skyforgedWeapons.esp 154 9a skyforgedShields.esp 155 9b CL Ebonyblade.esp 156 9c CL BladeofSacrifice.esp 157 9d CL Nettlebane.esp 158 9e AlbionSwords.esp 159 9f kimono's witcher silver swords.esp 160 a0 AlexScorpion's SnakeBow.esp 161 a1 Zikoru Swords.esp 162 a2 Ecotone Dual Sheath.esp 163 a3 Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp 164 a4 FNIS.esp 165 a5 BBLS_SKSE64_Patch.esp 166 a6 BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp 167 a7 FlowerGirls SE - Bathing Beauties Patch.esp 168 a8 TheChieftain.esp 169 a9 HireableHousecarlHearth.esp 170 aa FreckleMania2.esp 171 ab Immersive Weapons.esp 172 ac AddItemMenuSE.esp 173 ad Unique Character.esp 254 FE 0 1nivWICCloaks_SMP_Patch.esp 254 FE 1 Cloaks_SMP_Patch.esp 174 ae FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp 175 af SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 176 b0 RSChildren.esp 177 b1 RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp 178 b2 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 179 b3 TCoW Improvement.esp 180 b4 IB - All-in-One.esp 181 b5 PAN_NPCs.esp 182 b6 The Ordinary Women.esp 183 b7 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 184 b8 Bijin Wives.esp 185 b9 Bijin NPCs.esp 186 ba AelaSylvanMK.esp 187 bb Toccata as Elisif.esp 188 bc MBWSFollowersReplacer.esp 189 bd NPCReplacerOriella_mirz619.esp 190 be NPCReplacerNarriAndTekla_mirz619.esp 191 bf NPCReplacerGhorza_mirz619.esp 192 c0 Serana.esp 193 c1 Valerica.esp 194 c2 LonelyKarliah.esp 195 c3 Aeri.esp 196 c4 SofiaFollower.esp 197 c5 Sofia Uses Custom Body Meshes.esp 198 c6 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 199 c7 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp 200 c8 Vilja's Armor.esp 201 c9 Gylla the Nightingale.esp 202 ca zMirai.esp 203 cb Mirai Clothing Fixes.esp 204 cc CaesiaFollower.esp 205 cd FlowerGirls SE - Caesia.esp 206 ce LiviaFollower.esp 207 cf Ambriel.esp 208 d0 AnnaNPCs.esp 209 d1 AnnaNPCs-WhiteWaterInn-3.0.4.esp 210 d2 Recorder Follower Base.esp 211 d3 Recorder Follower Patch.esp 212 d4 tumbamounts.esp 213 d5 NPCVisualTransfer.esp 214 d6 NPC Skins.esp 215 d7 ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp ... and my mod list: Spoiler #Mod_Priority #Mod_Name 0 DLC: HearthFires 1 DLC: Dawnguard 2 DLC: Dragonborn 4 CK Scripts 5 SKSE Scripts 2.0.10 6 SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin) 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch 8 Mfg Fix 9 Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes 10 Modern Brawl Bug Fix 11 FISSES - Skyrim SE 12 PapyrusUtil SE 13 RaceCompatibility with fixes for SSE 14 JContainers64 15 Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice 16 SkyUI 17 Better MessageBox Controls 18 UIExtensions 19 A Quality World Map 20 RaceMenu 21 BodySlide and Outfit Studio 22 BodySlide Bodies & Presets SSE Conversion 23 DM Athletic (Fitness model body) - CBBE Bodyslide Preset 24 FABulous - Fair and Balanced BodySlide Preset 25 LF CBBE Custom BodySlide Preset 27 Natural And Realistic Bodies (BodySlide Presets - Medium Bounce) 29 Mirai Bodyslides - CBBE 32 HDT-SMP hdtSSEFramework 1.5.53 33 HDT-SMP hdtSSEPhysics 1.5.53 34 HDT-SMP Physics Config 37 Tempered Skins for Males - Dressed Version (With Meshes) 39 Schlongs of Skyrim SE HDT-SMP 40 Complete Male Overhaul - Balanced (Hairy) 42 Milkdrinker Male Normal Maps (Better Males) 55 Unique Character 56 Unique Character Patch 58 XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended 59 The Eyes Of Beauty SSE 60 The Eyes Of Beauty SSE (NPC Replacer) 62 Improved Eyes Skyrim 63 Maevan2's Eye Brows (SE) 65 Freckle Mania 2 66 ApachiiSkyHair SSE 67 KS Hairdos SSE 68 Beards (1K) 69 LH's HD Face Scars Remaster 1K 70 Tintmasks - Real Women of Skyrim Lips & Makeup 71 Tintmasks - Mature Skin 2 Lips 72 Tempered Skins for Males - Tintmasks 73 Complexions (Female) - Mature Skin 2 75 Better Complexion 76 Improved Eye Reflections and Cube Map 77 Eye Normal Map Fix SSE 78 Facelight Plus SE v1.1 (+Better Lighting) 79 Ultimate HD Fire Effects SSE 80 Enhanced Blood Textures 81 Enhanced Lights and FX (Enhancer, Exteriors, Ice Shaders) 82 Unofficial ELFX SMIM Performance Patch 83 Static Mesh Improvement Mod 84 Enhanced Textures Detail (UV-tweaks) 85 Dust Effects by HHaleyy 86 Noble Skyrim - Markarth & Dwemer Ruins 87 Noble Skyrim - Stone & Ice Caves 88 HQ Towns and Villages 89 Terrain LOD Redone 92 Vivid Weathers - Definitive Edition 93 Skyrim SE Improved Puddles 94 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin 95 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin 1K Textures 96 Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods 97 Simply Bigger Trees (With Realistic Aspen Trees) 98 Noble Skyrim - Landscape 99 Osmodius SSE Texture Pack 101 Skyrim 2017 Textures by Pfuscher - Landscape 102 Nordic Snow 103 HQ Tree Bark 104 Blended Roads 105 Majestic Mountains 106 Realistic Water Two 107 White Water HD 108 Water HD 109 Just Ice 111 Noble Skyrim - Whiterun 112 Noble Skyrim - Solitude 113 Noble Skyrim - Riften 114 Noble Skyrim - Winterhold College 115 Noble Skyrim - High Hrothgar 116 Noble Skyrim - Forts 117 Noble Skyrim - Mines 118 Noble Skyrim - The Ratways 119 Noble Skyrim - Ships 120 Noble Skyrim - Clutter 121 Noble Skyrim - Furniture 122 Noble Skyrim - Alchemy Workbench 123 Noble Skyrim - SMIM Patch 125 The Dawnguard - Textures Re-mastered 126 CC's HQ Fort Dawnguard 127 Ruins Clutter Improved SE 128 Forgotten Retex Project 129 RUSTIC CLUTTER COLLECTION - Special Edition 130 High Poly Project (Cabbage Deleted) 131 PELTAPALOOZA - Special Edition 132 Realistic HD Food (Cheese Deleted) 133 RUSTIC COOKING - Special Edition (1K) 135 CC's Enhanced Ore Veins SSE (2K) 136 HD Road Signs (2K) 137 Ancient Dwemer Metal 138 Perks Need No Requirements 139 Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers 140 AddItemMenu SE 141 Ecotone Dual Sheath 142 EFF - Extensible Follower Framework 143 Follower Trap Safety 144 Armor Rating Redux SE 145 Infinite Gold For Merchants 146 Campfire - Complete Camping System 147 Double Beds Are For Two People 148 Player Size Adjuster and First Person Camera Height Fix SSE 149 Realistic Ragdolls and Force (ESP Only) 150 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul (With EFF Patch) 151 Simple Auto Unequip Ammo 152 Unread Books Glow SSE 153 Less Dragons 2018-SSE 154 Run For Your Lives 155 Toggle Vampire Attacks SSE 156 Moonlight Tales Special Edition - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul 157 Faster Transform - To Werewolf and VampireLord 158 Werewolf Lovers Comfort 159 Better Stealth AI for Followers 160 Move it Dammit - SSE 161 VioLens - A Killmove Mod SE 162 Balanced Magic SE 163 Passive Weapon Enchantment Recharging 164 Acquisitive Soul Gems 165 Smaller Ice Spike and Ice Spear 166 Better Magic Lights 167 Brighter Torches and Toggle-able Brighter Candlelight With Color & Brightness Patch 168 Battle Ready Candlelight 169 Magelight Glow Fix 170 Beyond Skyrim - Bruma SE 171 Bathing Beauties or Beefcake - Luxury Suite SE 172 Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer 173 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures 174 Kajuan Textures - Falmer 175 Kajuan Textures - Draugr (2k) 176 Kajuan Textures - Hagraven (2k) 177 Kajuan Textures - Wispmother (2k) 178 Kajuan Textures - Dragon Priest (2k) 179 Kajuan Textures - Skeleton and Human Bones (2k) 180 Kajuan Textures - Mammoth (4k) 181 Kajuan Textures - Giant (4k) 182 Kajuan Textures - Sabrecat (4k) 183 Kajuan Textures - Troll (4k) 184 Ancient Dwemer Automatons 185 Tumbajamba's Mounts 186 Hire Your Own Housecarl 187 Housecarls Have Lives 188 My Home is Your Home (MHiYH 2plus) 189 Ethereal Elven Overhaul (With SE Patch) 190 RS Children Overhaul 191 The College of Winterhold - NPC Improvement v1 192 Improved Bards - Special Edition 193 Pandorable's NPCs (USSEP Patched) 195 The Ordinary Women SSE CBBE 197 Bijin Warmaidens SE 198 Bijin Wives SE 199 Bijin NPCs SE 203 Mirz's NPC Replacer Oriella 204 Mirz's NPC Replacer Narri and Tekla 205 Mirz's NPC Replacer Ghorza gra-Bagol SSE 206 Toccata Follower SE (Elisif Replacer) 207 Seranaholic SSE 208 Seranaholic SSE (Valerica) 209 Lonely Karliah (BSA Version) 210 Aeri of Angas Mill 211 Aela Sylvan Makeover Standalone 212 MBWS Male Housecarl Replacer 213 Gylla the Nightingale - Llewellyn Bard Replacement 216 Stop being a creepy stalker Aerin 217 Sofia - The Funny Fully Voiced Follower 218 Sofia Uses Custom Body Meshes 219 Sofia Customization 220 Vilja in Skyrim 221 Vilja Customizer 224 Recorder - Standalone Fully Voiced Follower 225 Recorder - Bugfix Patch SSE 226 Recorder Customizer 227 Minerva - Custom High Elf Voiced Follower (Converted) 228 Mirai - the Girl with the Dragon Heart 229 Mirai Customizer 230 Mirai Fitted Outfits (CBBE Physics) 231 Caesia Follower - Borne of Magic (FlowerGirls Patch) 232 Caesia Customizer 233 Livia Salvian - Daughter of the High Chancellor (Vanilla Overwrites Removed) 234 Livia Salvian Customizer 235 Ambriel - The Lost Princess 242 Anna NPCs SSE 243 NPC Customization 244 Vidanis Bag of Holding - Cleaned-Up 245 Lighter Pickaxes and Woodcutter Axes 246 Perk Point Book 248 RUSTIC CLOTHING - Special Edition 249 Cloaks of Skyrim SSE 250 Winter Is Coming SSE 251 Artesian Cloaks of Skyrim 252 Better Archmage's Robes - SSE 253 Improved Closedfaced Helmets (With USSEP Patch) 254 Hunting Grounds Outfit - SSE CBBE BodySlide (with Physics) 256 Divine Aegis HD Re-Mastered 257 Immersive Armors 258 Immersive Weapons 260 Dragonbone Ebonsteel Customization 261 Legendary Armor Conversions and Recolors (Mavari, Medusa, et. al.) 262 Lignum Vitae Armor (Light) 263 Lignum Vitae Armor (Heavy) 264 The Lily - Armour Mashup 265 Tribunal Robes and Masks for SSE 266 ESO Altmer Armor 267 ESO Altmer Armour - SSE CBBE BodySlide 268 Warmth - Standalone Light Armors 269 Barenziah's Glory SE 270 A Better Gauldur Amulet 271 Gemling Queen Jewelry SE 272 Circlet Replacers for Women 273 Mage Equipment Overhaul 274 DCR - King Crusader Mega Pack 275 Noldorian Auriel's Equipment 276 Auriel's Bow with Quiver and Arrows - Gold and Argent Retexture 277 Better Staff of Magnus - SSE 278 JaySuS Swords 279 Lore Weapon Expansion SE 280 BillyRo Ultimate Swords Anthology 281 Runed Nordic Weapons 282 Unique Uniques SE 283 Alternate Blade of Woe 284 Skyforge Weapons SSE 285 Skyforge Shields SSE 286 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors 287 aMidianBorn Blades Armor SSE Patch 288 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons 289 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items 290 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC 291 aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Content Add-On 292 aMidianBorn Glass With Refraction 293 Refracting Stalhrim Armors and Weapons 294 LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons 295 Zim's Immersive Artifacts V1.4 297 CL's Lord Harkons Blade Replacer 298 CL's Ebony Blade 299 CL's Ebony Weapon Replacer (With Nettlebane & Blade of Sacrifice) 300 Dragonspear 301 Dread Knight Weapons Armory SSE 302 Elvarheim's Weapons 303 Isilmeriel LOTR Weapons Collection SSE 304 LOTR - Herugrim 305 Longclaw 306 Mithrodin Sword 307 Orcrist the Goblin Cleaver 308 Sword of Ancient Tongues 309 Witcher's Steel Sword 310 The Witcher 3 Weaponry SE 311 The Witchers Silver Sword - Standalone 312 Artifacts - The Ice Blade of the Monarch [SSE] 313 Ultimate Assortment by FavoredSoul - SSE 314 Armory of The Favored Soul 315 Swordsman's Assortment SE 316 Albion Swords 317 Albion Swords - The Chieftain 318 SnakeBows SSE 319 Zikoru Swords Collection 320 Flower Girls SE 321 Flower Girls SE - Adventures 322 KSHair for Flower Girls 323 Amorous Adventures (Flower Girls) SSE 324 Bathing Beauties - Flower Girls Patch 334 Visible Favorited Gear 335 Female Facial Animation 336 Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE 338 FNIS Build 339 EveryBodys Different SSE 340 EveryBodys Different Block Lists 344 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - AnTiWoMaAgNoT 345 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Barbarous Beauty 346 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Khmera 347 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Pride of Valhalla 348 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Real Women of Skyrim 349 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - SG Texture 350 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - SKY Texture 351 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Bijin Skin 352 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Demoniac 353 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - FairSkin 355 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - Mature Skin 356 EBD - TexturePack & Meshes - CBBE - True Daughters of Skyrim 359 VNPC_Data 360 NPC Visual Transfers
Psalam Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 By any chance, are the affected NPCs also all replaced by Bijin? Or, put another way, have you tried disabling the Bijin mods and seen if that resolves your problem?
Andy14 Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 If you use ENB (I am not sure), check the settings in "Fix" (Ingame or in enblocal.ini) There are some settings such as FixTintGamma etc.
Grey Cloud Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Gawdzila said: 214 d6 NPC Skins.esp What is this?
Gawdzila Posted November 15, 2018 Author Posted November 15, 2018 Thanks for the replies, this was very helpful! The ENB fix idea was some nice thinking outside the box, but unfortunately that was a no-go; enabling the fix seemed to have very little effect on anything for me. Also, none of the NPCs I've seen affected are also in the Bijin mods, however, you were on the right track! Disabling just the Bijin mods didn't work, but I took your idea a little further and simply disabled all of my NPC/follower mods, and the problem went away! With some testing I tracked it down to The Ordinary Women. This surprised me because, although both Pandorables and TOW do affect those NPCs, 1) there are other NPCs in TOW that have overlap with Pandorables, and that had no problem at all, 2) I had completely deleted the NPC records for those NPCs from the TOW plugin, and 3) TOW doesn't overwrite or even use any vanilla skin texture assets. So, now I have it isolated! Now I just need to figure out how this mod is altering these particular NPCs when the plugin doesn't even have any NPC records for them. Any ideas? lol
Gawdzila Posted November 15, 2018 Author Posted November 15, 2018 26 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: What is this? Oh, that's a little plugin of my own that I created via SSEEdit. It contains an assortment of non-replacing armor add-ons that reference textures and meshes in non-vanilla locations, and has just a handful of NPC records to distribute them. None of the NPC records overlap with any of the NPCs that are having problems. Disabling that was one of the very first things I did in my initial troubleshooting; my assumption is always that I screwed something up ?
Psalam Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 Spoiler 34 minutes ago, Gawdzila said: Thanks for the replies, this was very helpful! The ENB fix idea was some nice thinking outside the box, but unfortunately that was a no-go; enabling the fix seemed to have very little effect on anything for me. Also, none of the NPCs I've seen affected are also in the Bijin mods, however, you were on the right track! Disabling just the Bijin mods didn't work, but I took your idea a little further and simply disabled all of my NPC/follower mods, and the problem went away! With some testing I tracked it down to The Ordinary Women. This surprised me because, although both Pandorables and TOW do affect those NPCs, 1) there are other NPCs in TOW that have overlap with Pandorables, and that had no problem at all, 2) I had completely deleted the NPC records for those NPCs from the TOW plugin, and 3) TOW doesn't overwrite or even use any vanilla skin texture assets. So, now I have it isolated! Now I just need to figure out how this mod is altering these particular NPCs when the plugin doesn't even have any NPC records for them. Any ideas? lol I believe you have been looking at the problem wrong from the beginning (that is why I suggested looking at Bijin). Your problem is not that the bodies are dark but rather that the faces are light. If you look at the screenshots that you posted all the NPCs (to my eye at least) had the same dark (dirty) body. Some just had clean faces. That is why the plugin DOES affect them because it DOES have files for the faces. There is also a section on the modpage describing how to deal with neck seams. here is the beginning (I thought it too much to quote here at length): [Solution to problems]1. If you has uesd another mod about chaging the appearance of same NPCs, it may cause the neck seam trouble. If so, open the command console by pressing the tilde (~) key. And you have to set their NPC weight by typing the following: setnpcweight [NPC'S WEIGHT] Anyway, good luck and I hope you have fun with your Skyrim game - I surely have.
Grey Cloud Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Gawdzila said: my assumption is always that I screwed something up ? Then we went to the same trouble-shooting school. ? Like Psalam I saw light faces rather dark bodies. ? It's the facegendata which is getting messed up. I use several NPC overhauls myself, including TOW, and mostly LOOT does a decent job. What I have is that sometimes it is just a matter of deleting the entry for the NPC from the esp with TESVEdit but sometimes I have to either delete the mesh and texture files for the NPC or manually copy the facegendata (meshes and textures) files over to get everyone looking like I want. Let me know if that doesn't make sense and I'll try a better explanation. I thought that solution Psalam has posted was for neck gap, not neck seam.
Gawdzila Posted November 16, 2018 Author Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents I believe you have been looking at the problem wrong from the beginning (that is why I suggested looking at Bijin). Your problem is not that the bodies are dark but rather that the faces are light. If you look at the screenshots that you posted all the NPCs (to my eye at least) had the same dark (dirty) body. Some just had clean faces. That is why the plugin DOES affect them because it DOES have files for the faces. Nevermind, scratch everything I just wrote, as I stupidly forgot to disable the EBD patch, which was changing the textures. You're exactly right, the head texture is being washed out by TOW. With/Without TOW: Spoiler I'm still at a loss as to how this happens with neither an NPC record nor any facegen meshes. It is clear that the diffuse texture itself is not changing -- all the details in the face and body are the same -- and it is using my vanilla replacer texture, as expected. It is just totally changing the tint on the face. ?
Gawdzila Posted November 16, 2018 Author Posted November 16, 2018 Typing the word "tint" made me go double-check the facegen tints folder. Sure enough, there were a few I forgot to delete. D'oh! All fixed! Thanks everyone!
Grey Cloud Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 Could you stick [SOLVED] in the title, please? It may help others in the future.
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