rcy68 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Greetings, oh knowledgeable and enlightened Sages of Smut. I`ve read...somewhere...that follower mods have alot of scripts, and thus adds to the strain put on my computer. My question is: is it a constant strain due to their very existence in my game world; a strain only when I`m in the same cell as them; or a strain only when they are following me? You see, i like having ALOT of follower mods installed, because, well, there is no such thing as having too many beautiful women living in my "world". BUT, they`re not worth CTDs, or not being able to run mods such as quests, or 'framework?' type mods like slavery(I never enslave followers, that`s what the 'Wenches' mod series is for) and prostitution(but I most definitely pimp them. DAMN good money in hoes). Thank you for your time.
27X Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 >MOST< Followers don't have a shit ton of scripts; what followers tend to do is cause scripts to be fired by other scripty ass mods. If you have shit ton of conditional mods and followers constantly meet and interact with those conditions, they tend to strain papyrus hard, the more followers you have active, the more blah blah blah. The hidden caveat to that is a shit ton of modders incorrectly make followers even up to a guy who made a "kit" that makes cludgey ass followers 'for you' with cludgey techniques for a generally cludgey engine. A big offender here is custom races. Skyrim doesn't like custom races. Skyrim often crashes with custom races, even if that race is made "perfectly" as far as papyrus and XSE is concerned. The more custom races you have, the more likely Skyrim is to hang or stutter when entering a new cell, even with fixes. If a shit ton of followers you have are custom races, the likelihood weird shit will happen increases dramatically, especially in later saves, and it has nothing to do with 'optimized assets' and everything to do with the engine and after-engine code not playing well together. Crashfixes and a couple other mods have addressed this, but nothing is guaranteed to just make the problem go completely away, even in SSE. A shit ton of custom followers simply exist as portable onaholes and have really no business or point being a custom race.
Blaze69 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 50 minutes ago, 27X said: The hidden caveat to that is a shit ton of modders incorrectly make followers even up to a guy who made a "kit" that makes cludgey ass followers 'for you' with cludgey techniques for a generally cludgey engine. A big offender here is custom races. Skyrim doesn't like custom races. Skyrim often crashes with custom races, even if that race is made "perfectly" as far as papyrus and XSE is concerned. The more custom races you have, the more likely Skyrim is to hang or stutter when entering a new cell, even with fixes. If a shit ton of followers you have are custom races, the likelihood weird shit will happen increases dramatically, especially in later saves, and it has nothing to do with 'optimized assets' and everything to do with the engine and after-engine code not playing well together. Crashfixes and a couple other mods have addressed this, but nothing is guaranteed to just make the problem go completely away, even in SSE. A shit ton of custom followers simply exist as portable onaholes and have really no business or point being a custom race. Slighlty off topic, but this. This soo much. I can make a follower that looks like a Lykaios but still is a 100% vanilla Khajiit as far as the game code knows (and obviously it uses the vanilla Khajiit race). Hell, I could make Orcs, Nords, or even freaking Yautja that looked the part but actually used the vanilla Khajiit race, or Khajiit that were actually Nords, or any combination thereof provided I didn't mind helmets not fitting the head. Pretty damn easy to do, I should add; just need some tinkering in xEdit and that's it. And yet, most follower "authors" absolutely need to have their Generic Animu Waifu #34242352523 (which is just a regular Nord or Breton after playing around with the anime-esque ECE sliders for like 5 minutes) use a custom race full of errors or dirty edits or even do something as annoyingly stupid as pack an outdated skeleton in a separate path altogether. But hey, they have boobs, so they are great, right? Low-quality and cheap boobs (because if they at least had put some work into it, I would give them credit for that), but boobs nevertheless, so they have to be all the rage. /rant
Lodakai Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 You don't even really need to add followers to the game. You can only bring about 3 with you before they start being a nuisance. If you just want to have more options with better looking females... you are better off using an NPC replacer mod such as bijin collection or the ordinary women (Tons more) If you want to pick and chose specific npcs to be in your game... this tool can make anyone in the game look like your selected follower. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64875 NPC Visual Transfer Tool (MO Users will have an easier time using this) So for example, you could turn Ralof into Avril Lavigne if you wanted. Or Alvor into chak chak the riekling. You can then use Xedit to alter their voice to something like femalesultry.... or serana voice if you really wanted. (Note be aware that quest specific npcs will sometimes need their original voice types. Generic filler npc's are safe to alter as you see fit) Using follower mods such as EFF or Follower Live package, you can essentially recruit anyone if you REALLY wanted them to be your follower.
rcy68 Posted October 15, 2018 Author Posted October 15, 2018 Okay, so custom race=bad. hmmm...I always play as a Succubus(Succubus Race Lite, not that mod that turns you into a succubus..PSQ I believe). So that`s not ideal, it sounds like. So drop that mod(dammit). And Lady Lucretia - A Succubus Follower mod. I`ll have to pour through the rest to check their race. Not a big deal. New info is always good, even if the facts suck sometimes. Sooooo...just having vanilla race potential followers wandering around Skyrim is no different than any other NPC, as long as they are not actively following me, is the vibe I`m getting. I only occasionally take a follower or two with me. They get in the way or steal my kills. Mostly they just stay at one of my player homes to liven it up and look pretty. Some of them I`ll train as prostitutes with TDF Aggressive Prostitution and it`s Independent Hooker Add-On. Hopefully that`s not TOO scripty. As well as MHIYH. Those are the only two mods i plug them into. But I spread them out among the various homes; except Breezehome, because it sucks(too small and buggy). I just set their home right outside, usually, and have them idle around between the gate and the market. Actually, I like to keep a couple by the gate of every city, to help deal with the vampire raids and dragon attacks, so as to try to keep the vanilla NPCs from dying and potentially breaking a quest. Most of them just don`t know when to run for the hills. Damn Nords and their obsession with Sovngarde. But, anyway...thanks for the info. You`re a scholar and a gentleman/lady.
Psalam Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Spoiler 3 minutes ago, rcy68 said: Okay, so custom race=bad. hmmm...I always play as a Succubus(Succubus Race Lite, not that mod that turns you into a succubus..PSQ I believe). So that`s not ideal, it sounds like. So drop that mod(dammit). And Lady Lucretia - A Succubus Follower mod. I`ll have to pour through the rest to check their race. Not a big deal. New info is always good, even if the facts suck sometimes. Sooooo...just having vanilla race potential followers wandering around Skyrim is no different than any other NPC, as long as they are not actively following me, is the vibe I`m getting. I only occasionally take a follower or two with me. They get in the way or steal my kills. Mostly they just stay at one of my player homes to liven it up and look pretty. Some of them I`ll train as prostitutes with TDF Aggressive Prostitution and it`s Independent Hooker Add-On. Hopefully that`s not TOO scripty. As well as MHIYH. Those are the only two mods i plug them into. But I spread them out among the various homes; except Breezehome, because it sucks(too small and buggy). I just set their home right outside, usually, and have them idle around between the gate and the market. Actually, I like to keep a couple by the gate of every city, to help deal with the vampire raids and dragon attacks, so as to try to keep the vanilla NPCs from dying and potentially breaking a quest. Most of them just don`t know when to run for the hills. Damn Nords and their obsession with Sovngarde. But, anyway...thanks for the info. You`re a scholar and a gentleman/lady. I think that you have gotten tremendous answers to the question that you posed but now I have one for you. What are your priorities? I play without followers most of the time and in most games because I don't want the script hit. I've played with PSQ without any problems. While everything that you have been told is correct don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Sure, you may want to trim back some of your initial plans so that you can have a fun game but plan on adding things back over time and see how YOUR game reacts.
rcy68 Posted October 15, 2018 Author Posted October 15, 2018 Oops! A couple others chimed in while I was responding to the first reply. I`m border-line computer illiterate, so the simpler, the better. Thus pre-made hot women programmed to "carry my burdens" works for me. I`ve got room for the .esps. It`s a miracle i figured out how to mod at all. Thanks Gopher, that smooth velvety voice really got me through all this. Love his How-to guides, though his play-throughs put me to sleep. A tip of the hat to all(even the ranter).
rcy68 Posted October 15, 2018 Author Posted October 15, 2018 @Psalam My Priorities? To have all the women of Skyrim worship and adore me. Wasn`t that obvious? Oh, and save the world...since I`m here...I guess.
Psalam Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 @rcy68 I believe your priorities are properly aligned with the stars and planets.
27X Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 bad is a loaded term. It's not a binary situation. It's a question of how much shit you want to deal with when playing your game, no more no less. Custom in small amounts *could be fine. *could is a loaded term
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