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So I was playing skyrim se for a while but now it crashes every time I start the game.

 

my load order is as follows:

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     RSkyrimChildren.esm
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  7  7     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  8  8     ApachiiHairMales.esm
  9  9     ApachiiHair.esm
 10  a     ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 11  b     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 12  c     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 13  d     ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 14  e     FNIS.esp
 15  f     SkyUI_SE.esp
 16 10     RSChildren.esp
 17 11     icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
 18 12     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
 19 13     Run For Your Lives.esp
 20 14     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 21 15     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
 22 16     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 23 17     dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
 24 18     dD-Short Script Range.esp
 25 19     Footprints.esp
 26 1a     Joy of Perspective.esp
 27 1b     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 28 1c     RaceMenu.esp
 29 1d     XPMSE.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 31 1f     Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
 32 20     Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
 33 21     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 34 22     12FemaleBrows.esp
 35 23     VioLens SE.esp
 36 24     Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
 37 25     Bijin Wives.esp
 38 26     Bijin NPCs.esp
 39 27     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
 40 28     LABikiniSSE.esp
 41 29     KS Hairdo's.esp
 42 2a     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
 43 2b     ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L3.esp
 44 2c     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 45 2d     Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
 46 2e     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 47 2f     Open Cities Skyrim.esp
 48 30     ELFX - Hardcore.esp
 49 31     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
 50 32     RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
 51 33     RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp
 52 34     RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp
 53 35     RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

 

Can somebody help me resolve this ctd?

 

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8 minutes ago, mauritskk said:

So I was playing skyrim se for a while but now it crashes every time I start the game.

 

my load order is as follows:

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     RSkyrimChildren.esm
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  7  7     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  8  8     ApachiiHairMales.esm
  9  9     ApachiiHair.esm
 10  a     ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 11  b     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 12  c     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 13  d     ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 14  e     FNIS.esp
 15  f     SkyUI_SE.esp
 16 10     RSChildren.esp
 17 11     icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
 18 12     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
 19 13     Run For Your Lives.esp
 20 14     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 21 15     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
 22 16     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 23 17     dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
 24 18     dD-Short Script Range.esp
 25 19     Footprints.esp
 26 1a     Joy of Perspective.esp
 27 1b     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 28 1c     RaceMenu.esp
 29 1d     XPMSE.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 31 1f     Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
 32 20     Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
 33 21     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 34 22     12FemaleBrows.esp
 35 23     VioLens SE.esp
 36 24     Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
 37 25     Bijin Wives.esp
 38 26     Bijin NPCs.esp
 39 27     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
 40 28     LABikiniSSE.esp
 41 29     KS Hairdo's.esp
 42 2a     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
 43 2b     ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L3.esp
 44 2c     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 45 2d     Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
 46 2e     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 47 2f     Open Cities Skyrim.esp
 48 30     ELFX - Hardcore.esp
 49 31     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
 50 32     RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
 51 33     RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp
 52 34     RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp
 53 35     RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

 

Can somebody help me resolve this ctd?

 

 

As GenioMaestro says, "if you get a CTD before the main screen loads it is 99% certain that you are missing a master. If you see the main screen before you get the CTD it is 99% certain it is too many animations."

 

For the first, make sure that you run LOOT and correct anything that it lists as an error. If you don't have LOOT (Load Order Optimisation Tool) then Google it, download it and run it.

 

For the second (which I sincerely doubt is your problem given your load order) run FNIS (which I see you already have) and see how many animations that you are running. If it is over 10k you probably want to cut down on your animations.

 

If, as your title indicates, you have run LOOT already what mod manager do you use?

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17 minutes ago, Psalam said:
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As GenioMaestro says, "if you get a CTD before the main screen loads it is 99% certain that you are missing a master. If you see the main screen before you get the CTD it is 99% certain it is too many animations."

 

For the first, make sure that you run LOOT and correct anything that it lists as an error. If you don't have LOOT (Load Order Optimisation Tool) then Google it, download it and run it.

 

For the second (which I sincerely doubt is your problem given your load order) run FNIS (which I see you already have) and see how many animations that you are running. If it is over 10k you probably want to cut down on your animations.

The CTD is after I load the main menu, then when going into the game is loads for 3 seconds and crashes. I have checked LOOT and the loadorder is fine. I have run FNIS also and that says that it is fine as well. But still I get the CTD. I use Mod Oraganizer 2

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6 minutes ago, mauritskk said:

The CTD is after I load the main menu, then when going into the game is loads for 3 seconds and crashes. I have checked LOOT and the loadorder is fine. I have run FNIS also and that says that it is fine as well. But still I get the CTD. I use Mod Oraganizer 2

 

For the sake of education, not that I think it has anything to do with your problem, when FNIS says everything is okay it means that everything is okay with FNIS. It is still possible to have too many animations. In fact, it is the norm on this thread that people with too many animations have had FNIS tell them that everything is all right. However, looking at your load order animations don't look like they're your problem.

 

Everything you have is pretty straightforward and I see no OBVIOUS problem.  If I had your problem I would try try these two things next. I would manually move ASLAL to the end of the load order and, after checking that I had the most up-to-date version of XPMSE, I would tick off the esp. This will not eliminate the skeleton but it will eliminate the MCM menu and some of the glitches that have been associated with it.

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So I started a game to see if new games actually work. They do, but whenever I save it again and try to reload the game the same ctd happens again... what would be the problem in this case?

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2 minutes ago, mauritskk said:

So I started a game to see if new games actually work. They do, but whenever I save it again and try to reload the game the same ctd happens again... what would be the problem in this case?

 

I went back and looked at your load order and have another question. Are you using LE (legendary edition) or SE (special edition). It looks like you may have both types of mods in your load order. You can not "mix and match." All your mods have to be for SE or for LE. Double check that this is not your issue.

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1 hour ago, mauritskk said:

The CTD is after I load the main menu, then when going into the game is loads for 3 seconds and crashes. I have checked LOOT and the loadorder is fine. I have run FNIS also and that says that it is fine as well. But still I get the CTD. I use Mod Oraganizer 2

With 50 mod's your game must run perfect... You get the main menu and you no have sexlab and not have animations object. Your problem is not caused by fauting masters or excesive animations.

 

As you have  SE you must verify that ALL yours mod's are compatible with SE.

The main core mod's have a DIFERENT version for SE and LE and are incompatibles. 

Verify the version of SKSE, SkyUi, XPMSE, RaceMenu, Fnis, BodySlide...

 

Take a look to the SE forum. The game has been updated some weeks ago and not ALL mod's have compatible version with the new update.

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55 minutes ago, Psalam said:
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For the sake of education, not that I think it has anything to do with your problem, when FNIS says everything is okay it means that everything is okay with FNIS. It is still possible to have too many animations. In fact, it is the norm on this thread that people with too many animations have had FNIS tell them that everything is all right. However, looking at your load order animations don't look like they're your problem.

 

Everything you have is pretty straightforward and I see no OBVIOUS problem.  If I had your problem I would try try these two things next. I would manually move ASLAL to the end of the load order and, after checking that I had the most up-to-date version of XPMSE, I would tick off the esp. This will not eliminate the skeleton but it will eliminate the MCM menu and some of the glitches that have been associated with it.

Have you ever thought that a CTD with "too many" animations is not the cause, but the symptom?
Was purely Rethoric.

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Just now, Andy14 said:

Have you ever thought that a CTD with "too many" animations is not the cause, but the symptom?
Was purely Rethoric.

 

As a physician I am acutely aware that patients want treatment for their symptoms and physicians want treatment for the underlying disease - rhetorical response to a rhetorical question.

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Just now, Psalam said:
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As a physician I am acutely aware that patients want treatment for their symptoms and physicians want treatment for the underlying disease - rhetorical response to a rhetorical question.

This explains why you adopt the "treatment" of others so "thoughtlessly". ;)
I'm not a doctor, just software developer ...

Posted
1 hour ago, mauritskk said:

So I was playing skyrim se for a while but now it crashes every time I start the game. 

my load order is as follows:

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Can somebody help me resolve this ctd?

 

The most common cause of crashes (that I've found) is insufficient RAM. How much RAM do you have on your PC? The minimum recommended is definitely insufficient if you start modding Skyrim or Fallout 4. If the other suggestions don't work, disable a few mods, especially the animation-heavy ones, and upgrade your RAM.

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2 hours ago, mauritskk said:

So I was playing skyrim se for a while but now it crashes every time I start the game.

 

my load order is as follows:

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     RSkyrimChildren.esm
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  7  7     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  8  8     ApachiiHairMales.esm
  9  9     ApachiiHair.esm
 10  a     ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 11  b     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 12  c     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 13  d     ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 14  e     FNIS.esp
 15  f     SkyUI_SE.esp
 16 10     RSChildren.esp
 17 11     icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
 18 12     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
 19 13     Run For Your Lives.esp
 20 14     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 21 15     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
 22 16     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 23 17     dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
 24 18     dD-Short Script Range.esp
 25 19     Footprints.esp
 26 1a     Joy of Perspective.esp
 27 1b     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 28 1c     RaceMenu.esp
 29 1d     XPMSE.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 31 1f     Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
 32 20     Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
 33 21     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 34 22     12FemaleBrows.esp
 35 23     VioLens SE.esp
 36 24     Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
 37 25     Bijin Wives.esp
 38 26     Bijin NPCs.esp
 39 27     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
 40 28     LABikiniSSE.esp
 41 29     KS Hairdo's.esp
 42 2a     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
 43 2b     ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L3.esp
 44 2c     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 45 2d     Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
 46 2e     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 47 2f     Open Cities Skyrim.esp
 48 30     ELFX - Hardcore.esp
 49 31     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
 50 32     RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
 51 33     RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp
 52 34     RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp
 53 35     RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

 

Can somebody help me resolve this ctd?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically, a little more information is not bad:
- You have not changed anything (no new mods)
- There was no update (as so often, and mods are incompatible)

Please, a little more information.

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