HDT Werewolves SE & AE

[kotamaku]

Okay well I'm having issues with the werewolf form. Before it wasn't actually applying and physics wasn't working. I got most of it fix but now I have this issue.

[cminnow]

5 hours ago, kotamaku said:

Okay well I'm having issues with the werewolf form. Before it wasn't actually applying and physics wasn't working. I got most of it fix but now I have this issue.

 

Wow. That's weird. Are you using CPB and SMP together?

[kotamaku]

17 hours ago, cminnow said:

Wow. That's weird. Are you using CPB and SMP together?

Nope, plus I think I have found out what's wrong. I think the textures aren't loading right. What are the hdt textures supposed to be renamed to as I have no renamed them at all.

[cminnow]

3 hours ago, kotamaku said:

Nope, plus I think I have found out what's wrong. I think the textures aren't loading right. What are the hdt textures supposed to be renamed to as I have no renamed them at all.

.... Don't rename them. Overwrite if you have to.

[duzellx]

On 1/13/2019 at 10:50 AM, kotamaku said:

Okay well I'm having issues with the werewolf form. Before it wasn't actually applying and physics wasn't working. I got most of it fix but now I have this issue.

i actually know this one, if you used two breast from the old mod it results in this 

as the original hdt werewolves legacy required you to overwrite the old mod with that patch 

[kotamaku]

Well I am using MO2 I had just renamed the 2t body to the female body. How would I go about overwriting the 2t with the original as I don't know if I had the original or not correctly.

[duzellx]

18 hours ago, kotamaku said:

Well I am using MO2 I had just renamed the 2t body to the female body. How would I go about overwriting the 2t with the original as I don't know if I had the original or not correctly.

personally i use nmm (65.11) because i find vortex and mo types seem buggy in ways i cannot control 

[kotamaku]

6 hours ago, duzellx said:

personally i use nmm (65.11) because i find vortex and mo types seem buggy in ways i cannot control 

I fixed it, reinstalled stuff and turned off fem lcyana cause at first it was the only way to get the body to work as in not be male. But I have another question, how do I get the male gentials to appear on the female to be a futa for the werewolf cause I tried to go and download sos light se, and it's not available.

[Anguished]

On 1/14/2019 at 4:06 PM, duzellx said:

i actually know this one, if you used two breast from the old mod it results in this 

as the original hdt werewolves legacy required you to overwrite the old mod with that patch 

Yeah, they're encountering the same invisible problems I encountered way back when I worked on porting and updating the mod. I found a lot of help from working with @ppp  in this thread.

 

As of right now, I have werewolves working-that is, not crashing or recreating Sleepy Hollow-however they are now unresponsive to initiating animations. I think it's something with the skeleton I did wrong because they are not exhibiting physics either (except buttocks).

 

Things will fall into place at some point. 

 

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[VVuffy]

After a little break I got back to Skyrim and finally fixed my werewolf female.

First, it may not be a new info for you as it is for me, but the body scale sliders in Racemenu affects werewolf form/mesh directly. For some reason, the 2t version breasts are not affected, but the 6t version lowest row of breasts is. Must have to do with the mesh implementation.

P.S. Moonlight Tales does not work for female. If a skin selected, the female turns to a male werewolf! Am I meant to replace the texture files or am I doing something wrong?

 

Second, I have tried to replace the male werewolf mesh human genitals with canine version, but during animation there was no erection whatsoever. Dont know how the HDT werewolves handles this.

Can I actually edit a mesh to be HDT compatible? (still just learning nifskope)

 

And last, I got my HDT working again. For some reason now I get a massive FPS drop from around 130 fps all the way to single digit numbers! O.o

[sandai05]

Downloaded the mod and it works fine but I want to change the female werewolf to multiple breasts. It seems to want to try to become the werewolf with multiple boobs but then suddenly converts back to normal after a few seconds.

 

Also which files do I need in order to change texture and can I use Oldrim's textures?

[cminnow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22728 

 

Would be nice if this worked with expressive werewolves. Looks like a neat mod

[duzellx]

2 hours ago, cminnow said:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22728 

 

Would be nice if this worked with expressive werewolves. Looks like a neat mod

heh we were thinking the same thing ive actually spoke with the mod creator about a patch for this issue. having a good discussion of possible hookup 

10 hours ago, sandai05 said:

Downloaded the mod and it works fine but I want to change the female werewolf to multiple breasts. It seems to want to try to become the werewolf with multiple boobs but then suddenly converts back to normal after a few seconds.

 

Also which files do I need in order to change texture and can I use Oldrim's textures?

if you open the files simply use the multi to overwrite the single pair it should work

 

to do textures go to the textures folder of the one you want and you can copy paste most skin textures into it and it will function

you can use the old setup but the current one is setup to hook via cbbe's hdtsmp setup to make it easier to use  that function , its also optimized and setup in se so it has the proper form factor if that helps 

 

[duzellx]

On 1/17/2019 at 6:44 AM, VVuffy said:

After a little break I got back to Skyrim and finally fixed my werewolf female.

First, it may not be a new info for you as it is for me, but the body scale sliders in Racemenu affects werewolf form/mesh directly. For some reason, the 2t version breasts are not affected, but the 6t version lowest row of breasts is. Must have to do with the mesh implementation.

P.S. Moonlight Tales does not work for female. If a skin selected, the female turns to a male werewolf! Am I meant to replace the texture files or am I doing something wrong?

 

Second, I have tried to replace the male werewolf mesh human genitals with canine version, but during animation there was no erection whatsoever. Dont know how the HDT werewolves handles this.

Can I actually edit a mesh to be HDT compatible? (still just learning nifskope)

 

And last, I got my HDT working again. For some reason now I get a massive FPS drop from around 130 fps all the way to single digit numbers! O.o

some have brought up the canine genitalia and its so far not a thing for this mod 

the breasts issue is due to the forms 0-1 being weight slider dependent , and the multibreasts was a later addon  

and seems your encountering the memory leak issue which is something possibly linked with the SOS your using, this is only compatible with LITE SOS , there is a redundancy in SOS full that calls old werewolf setup from oldrim 

ive already asked if theyed fix this , still no result since then 

[duzellx]

ok so for expressive werewolves the meshes must be separated to body and head , but animations work for any texture as is

here is a loose  version if anyone would like to have a go. we've also received permission to share a patch for expressive if we make one for hdt

Expressive Werewolves-loose.7z

 

 

[Anonymous43]

On 1/18/2019 at 11:21 PM, duzellx said:

some have brought up the canine genitalia and its so far not a thing for this mod 

the breasts issue is due to the forms 0-1 being weight slider dependent , and the multibreasts was a later addon  

and seems your encountering the memory leak issue which is something possibly linked with the SOS your using, this is only compatible with LITE SOS , there is a redundancy in SOS full that calls old werewolf setup from oldrim 

ive already asked if theyed fix this , still no result since then 

So is there some way to go about correcting this issue? Or would this be quite the challenge?

[duzellx]

On 1/20/2019 at 1:48 PM, Anonymous43 said:

So is there some way to go about correcting this issue? Or would this be quite the challenge?

basically SOS would need to have the redundant calls removed and retied to the new calls as it was a old mod port things like this have happened from time to time.

 

a patch could be theoretically created that replaces the section governing werewolves  only . i dont think its daunting but no ones put time to effort yet to try beyond discovering the causes at this time 

[nekonoll]

I am so rediculously confused, I can apparently not for the life of me get this mod to recognize my female khajiit as a female werewolf? I only have three mods PERIOD that are affecting werewolves to my knowledge. Creature framework, more nasty creatures, and this. Yet every time I transform it's the male werewolf model from this mod,  Anyone know any common or popular mods that might screw with gender? 

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[duzellx]

14 hours ago, nekonoll said:

I am so rediculously confused, I can apparently not for the life of me get this mod to recognize my female khajiit as a female werewolf? I only have three mods PERIOD that are affecting werewolves to my knowledge. Creature framework, more nasty creatures, and this. Yet every time I transform it's the male werewolf model from this mod,  Anyone know any common or popular mods that might screw with gender? 

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id ask if you have in setup sexlab or other such mods with gender as female as by default it goes male or automatic on some and creature framework directly is altered by sexlab

[nekonoll]

I have been making sure to set up female creatures allowed + ensuring I'm set as female in sexlab, I'll check to see if somehow creature framework is screwing with it, but that sounds weird as it's a requirement.

[nekonoll]

Ensured, that creature framework was set up correctly, still no dice, in fact no matter what option I choose in creature framework, it just seems to always revert to the male body. In fact even completely disabling the creature framework werewolf selection, as in not selecting mnc werewolves or any options at all still just reverts to the male body. Almost as if the mod isn't  reading off of creature framework at all?

[nekonoll]

Okay so upon further testing, if I change to a werewolf in a new save before creature framework even has time to register its mcm, I actually DO change into the female form, but if I wait for creature framework to fully activate it actually prevents me from going female form.... this is a complete non issue in vanilla skyrim, Is there some specific option in CF that's probably going over my head? And when it DID select the female mesh, it was a static one that wasn't even the 6 tit variant that I selected, was 2 breasted.

[FinalCartoon814]

im trying to figure out how to do replace the texture to get the mikoyorks reskin, i like that one more than the normal skyrim werewolf skin

[duzellx]

11 hours ago, nekonoll said:

Okay so upon further testing, if I change to a werewolf in a new save before creature framework even has time to register its mcm, I actually DO change into the female form, but if I wait for creature framework to fully activate it actually prevents me from going female form.... this is a complete non issue in vanilla skyrim, Is there some specific option in CF that's probably going over my head? And when it DID select the female mesh, it was a static one that wasn't even the 6 tit variant that I selected, was 2 breasted.

unsure if this helps , but in testing creature framework is not actually needed if you just want animations for "naughty stuff" , you can use the files for animations and pull them ingame via slal without requiring the framework and use it on demand via the matchmaker 

loot throws a error however saying its required but the animations still work regardless 

 

[duzellx]

2 hours ago, FinalCartoon814 said:

im trying to figure out how to do replace the texture to get the mikoyorks reskin, i like that one more than the normal skyrim werewolf skin

grab v 2+ for any of your physics style hdt or smp are present