ctd [CTD help] Need a second pair of eyes

[slices9]

Hi, my game keeps CTDing in specific locations, I tried disabling mods and trying, but all results are the same, LOOT says there are no conflicts and I have used SSEEDit for the mods that required it (not XPMSE), but still...

I am lost in terms of tracking the offender in papyrus and am hoping for a bit of help in that regard.

below is my load order:

  0  0     Skyrim.esm

  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     RSkyrimChildren.esm
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  7  7     BSAssets.esm
  8  8     BSHeartland.esm
  9  9     BS_DLC_patch.esp
 10  a     BBLuxurySuite.esm
 11  b     Campfire.esm
 12  c     RaceCompatibility.esm
 13  d     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 14  e     FM - UCM Interior.esm
 15  f     FlowerGirls SE.esm
 16 10     FlowerGirls SE - BDSM.esm
 17 11     SexLab.esm
 18 12     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 19 13     SexLabAroused.esm
 20 14     SexLab Attraction.esm
 21 15     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 22 16     FNISSexyMove.esp
 23 17     Sit Anywhere.esp
 24 18     DSHg - Circlets.esp
 25 19     DSHg - DragonPriest Masks.esp
 26 1a     DSHg - Hats.esp
 27 1b     DSHg - Helmets.esp
 28 1c     DSHg - Hoods.esp
 29 1d     DSHg - UpdateDB.esp
 30 1e     DSHg - UpdateDG.esp
 31 1f     KS Hairdo's.esp
 32 20     SkyHeels.esp
 33 21     NocturnalArchMageRobes.esp
 34 22     AsharaElisifOutfit.esp
 35 23     AsharaPartyOutfit.esp
 36 24     AsharaImperialOutfit.esp
 37 25     HearthfireMultiKid.esp
 38 26     Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
 39 27     WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp
 40 28     WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp
 41 29     SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
 42 2a     Sjel Blad Castle_SE.esp
 43 2b     MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
 44 2c     marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
 45 2d     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 46 2e     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 47 2f     AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
 48 30     AFT_NoDances.esp
 49 31     AFT_ManagedFollowerBoost.esp
           AFT - 3DNPC Patch.esp
 50 32     zMirai.esp
 51 33     Tentapalooza.esp
 52 34     animal_mansion.esp
 53 35     BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp
 54 36     WindstadMine.esp
 55 37     UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
 56 38     WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack + UniqueBorderGates-All - Compatibility.esp
 57 39     ValkyrjaCastleWhiterun.esp
 58 3a     SofiaFollower.esp
 59 3b     SkystoneCastle.esp
 60 3c     BesEss.esp
 61 3d     FM - UCM Merchants.esp
 62 3e     FM - UCM Xterior.esp
 63 3f     DoubleBedsAreForTwoPeople.esp
 64 40     PrinceandPauper.esp
 65 41     AFT - USSEP Patch.esp
 66 42     AFT - Dragonborn Patch.esp
 67 43     FollowerWander2.esp
 68 44     AwpSylvanas.esp
 69 45     HearthfireMultikid_PNP Patch.esp
 70 46     HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
 71 47     Recorder Follower Base.esp
 72 48     RavenCastle.esp
 73 49     FNISspells.esp
 74 4a     12FemaleBrows.esp
 75 4b     Aesthetic Elisif.esp
 76 4c     RSChildren.esp
 77 4d     Ty's Babette.esp
 78 4e     BBLS_SKSE64_Patch.esp
 79 4f     Maxine - Zombie Follower.esp
 80 50     The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
 81 51     My Home Is Your Home.esp
 82 52     BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp
 83 53     MUPF.esp
 84 54     MUPF_Craft.esp
 85 55     gays.esp
 86 56     LV_Cirilla.esp
 87 57     SkyUI_SE.esp
 88 58     CiriOutfit.esp
 89 59     SLAnimLoader.esp
 90 5a     Abduction.esp
 91 5b     dcc-buttplug.esp
 92 5c     DW.esp
 93 5d     SexyKunoichi2ndByNausicaa.esp
 94 5e     SexLab Enchantress.esp
 95 5f     FNIS - Shocky Creature Sex Poses.esp.esp
 96 60     FNIS - Shocky Poses Humans.esp
 97 61     FNIS - Shocky Poses Misc.esp
 98 62     SLPleasure.esp
 99 63     KomAnimObjects.esp
100 64     True Scholar.esp
101 65     SignatureEquipment.esp
102 66     Alduin78_StarWars.esp
103 67     Magicka Sabers Unique.esp
104 68     Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
105 69     Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
106 6a     MannequinDesigns.esp
107 6b     TDNEquipableHorns.esp
108 6c     NewVampChainsCuirass.esp
109 6d     Elvenia.esp
110 6e     Cassandra Frost Witch.esp
111 6f     TDNEquipableHorns_weightlessPatch.esp
112 70     FNIS.esp
113 71     FlowerGirls SE - Bathing Beauties Patch.esp
114 72     SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
115 73     FGCumEffect.esp
116 74     UIExtensions.esp
117 75     DoubleBedsVoicePatchSofia.esp
118 76     DoubleBedsVoicePatchRecorder.esp
119 77     RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp
120 78     DoubleBedsSkyStoneCastlePatch.esp
121 79     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
           TDOC.esp
122 7a     RaceMenu.esp
123 7b     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
124 7c     AddItemMenuSE.esp
125 7d     XPMSE.esp
126 7e     SOSRaceMenu.esp
127 7f     TKDodge.esp
128 80     MassMatchMakerSE.esp
129 81     AP Skyrim SE.esp
130 82     LazyHeels.esp
131 83     SPFixed Stone of Barenziah places.esp
132 84     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
133 85     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
134 86     Merta Assassin Armor.esp
135 87     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
136 88     Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
137 89     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
138 8a     RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
139 8b     Convenient Horses.esp
140 8c     CH Bruma Patch.esp
141 8d     RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
           RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
142 8e     Serana Dialogue Edit.esp

 

and attached is my latest Papyrus Log.

Papyrus.0.log

[tasairis]

Did you port any of those mods from Oldrim for yourself? Are you sure you converted everything properly?

 

Use NifScan to see if there are any meshes or textures with problems. Odds are at least one file is messed up and that file happens to be needed in the problematic location.

[JRCosta]

A consistent CTD on a particular location(s) is a sign that something there is corrupt or invalid, most likely added by a mod; could be a model (a .nif file), a skeleton file of a NPC, or any other unsupported file (mesh or textures); check your mod list for things added to those locations. Follow @tasairis advice and check for LE ports first (armor, NPCs, creatures...)

 

In certain situations could be a mod you removed that left traces (loose scripts), so check if you uninstalled something middle-game. Use Fallrim Tools (read the instructions) to scan your save.

[slices9]

11 hours ago, tasairis said:

Did you port any of those mods from Oldrim for yourself? Are you sure you converted everything properly?

 

Use NifScan to see if there are any meshes or textures with problems. Odds are at least one file is messed up and that file happens to be needed in the problematic location.

 

3 hours ago, JRCosta said:

A consistent CTD on a particular location(s) is a sign that something there is corrupt or invalid, most likely added by a mod; could be a model (a .nif file), a skeleton file of a NPC, or any other unsupported file (mesh or textures); check your mod list for things added to those locations. Follow @tasairis advice and check for LE ports first (armor, NPCs, creatures...)

 

In certain situations could be a mod you removed that left traces (loose scripts), so check if you uninstalled something middle-game. Use Fallrim Tools (read the instructions) to scan your save.

Thank you, will do and I will be looking out for those things!

 

Edit: a couple of things:

1- I am using a clean save to test out changes

2- I keep getting 2 issues when using NifScan ([Use a compressed format or R8 (currently L8)] and [Dimensions must be divisible by 4 (currently 284x350)])

I am unsure how to correct those

 

again, thanks for the advice

[tasairis]

5 hours ago, slices9 said:

Edit: a couple of things:

1- I am using a clean save to test out changes

2- I keep getting 2 issues when using NifScan ([Use a compressed format or R8 (currently L8)] and [Dimensions must be divisible by 4 (currently 284x350)])

I am unsure how to correct those

 

again, thanks for the advice

First one is probably bad, second one is definitely bad.

 

Textures, right? Use NifScan just like before but with the -fixdds option.

[slices9]

1 hour ago, tasairis said:

First one is probably bad, second one is definitely bad.

 

Textures, right? Use NifScan just like before but with the -fixdds option.

Thanks, so I tried that... result is that  nothing changed when I ran the .bat file with the -fixdds included.  Unless there is another NifScan that I am unaware of, can you tell me where to find it? (I downloaded the one on Nexus)

[tasairis]

Did you rerun NifScan (without the -fixdds) to see if the errors went away?

 

The process for textures is to run NifScan normally, then if there are problems then deal with them (like by running with -fixdds), then run NifScan again, and if there are still errors then they'll need to be dealt with manually (like with NifSkope).

[slices9]

22 hours ago, tasairis said:

Did you rerun NifScan (without the -fixdds) to see if the errors went away?

 

The process for textures is to run NifScan normally, then if there are problems then deal with them (like by running with -fixdds), then run NifScan again, and if there are still errors then they'll need to be dealt with manually (like with NifSkope).

I did, and thanks for pointing NifSkope out, I'll look out for it.

[tasairis]

On 9/14/2018 at 5:08 PM, tasairis said:

Did you rerun NifScan (without the -fixdds) to see if the errors went away?

 

The process for textures is to run NifScan normally, then if there are problems then deal with them (like by running with -fixdds), then run NifScan again, and if there are still errors then they'll need to be dealt with manually (like with NifSkope).

Er, I misspoke. NifSkope is for meshes. For textures, any graphics program that can deal with textures will work (such as GIMP with a DDS plugin), though I'm not sure what errors can't be fixed with -fixdds.

[Varithina]

14 hours ago, tasairis said:

Er, I misspoke. NifSkope is for meshes. For textures, any graphics program that can deal with textures will work (such as GIMP with a DDS plugin), though I'm not sure what errors can't be fixed with -fixdds.

Could be that whatever program they used to extract the ba files has extracted them but they are 0 size files, I have had that happen a couple of times and it can be a pain to sort out.

[slices9]

20 hours ago, tasairis said:

Er, I misspoke. NifSkope is for meshes. For textures, any graphics program that can deal with textures will work (such as GIMP with a DDS plugin), though I'm not sure what errors can't be fixed with -fixdds.

So I managed to disable all mods that appear to be crashing the game, except for one, the file name of the mod is aaxisland01, but I can't seem to narrow down the mod it belongs to.

[tasairis]

4 hours ago, slices9 said:

So I managed to disable all mods that appear to be crashing the game, except for one, the file name of the mod is aaxisland01, but I can't seem to narrow down the mod it belongs to.

If you're using NMM, search the VirtualInstall folder for that file. If you're using MO2, go to the Data tab on the right and browse down to where that file is and it will tell you the mod.

[slices9]

7 hours ago, tasairis said:

If you're using NMM, search the VirtualInstall folder for that file. If you're using MO2, go to the Data tab on the right and browse down to where that file is and it will tell you the mod.

Thanks!  I found it, hopefully this works now.

[slices9]

Looks like it was all for naught...

 

I'll do a clean install and start adding mods from scratch.

 

Thanks all for the advice!

 

Edit: the clean install worked

[Karen1965]

Download papyrus . Turn on logging when CTD happens look at papyrus log in documents should tell why you are getting CTD's.

[slices9]

4 hours ago, Karen1965 said:

Download papyrus . Turn on logging when CTD happens look at papyrus log in documents should tell why you are getting CTD's.

Papyrus log is attached in the first post, that was why I was asking for a second pair of eyes, I couldn't tell heads or tails with it.

[tasairis]

22 hours ago, Karen1965 said:

Download papyrus . Turn on logging when CTD happens look at papyrus log in documents should tell why you are getting CTD's.

Papyrus logs very, very rarely help with diagnosing CTDs. I can count on one finger the number of times I've seen one useful.