Apollo04 Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 As the title say, in my current playthrough, my follower (Uthgerd in this case) starts acting all kind of retarded, namely not engaging enemies unless I (a squishy mage that'll die in one hit) or she (rarely happens) got hit first. If I engage the enemies first, she'll hang around the back and watch like it's a very interesting live show or something. In the previous playthroughs, she was always one of the first to charge when an enemies was near and on the radar, before I even spotted them. Occasionally, the AI acts correctly and she engages in battle properly, but it happens like 2-3 times during the entire Bleak Falls Barrow, and never in the wild. I'm using AFT, and have made sure that the option "Follower never initiate combat" was ticked off, and her AI was Agressive. This is my load order: Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm BSAssets.esm BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp Campfire.esm Alpine Forest of Whiterun Valley.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm RaceCompatibility.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm FlowerGirls SE.esm CreatureFramework.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp Inns and Taverns.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp SkyUI_SE.esp iHUD.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Ducks and Swans.esp TerrainLodRedone.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp Helgen Reborn.esp ForgottenCity.esp Clockwork.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RND_BSHeartland.esp WetandCold.esp Immersive Horses.esp Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Medium Script Range.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp OBIS SE.esp Better Vampires.esp PathOfSorcery.esp PoS Apocalypse Patch SE.esp Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp Rebalanced Encounter Zones.esp Skytoxin.esp Ars Metallica.esp simpleCarriageExpansion.esp Immersive Encounters.esp BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp Obsidian Weathers.esp TrueStormsSE.esp True Storms - Obsidian Weathers - Patch .esp WondersofWeather.esp MajesticMountains.esp MajesticMountains_Moss.esp SunDaytimeNorth_MM_default.esp SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp JKs Skyrim.esp Blues Skyrim.esp JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp The Great City of Winterhold.esp Raven Rock.esp Raven Rock - Clockwork Patch.esp SkyrimSewers.esp OutlawsRefuges.esp DragonbridgeVendorsAndBlacksmith.esp OldHroldanRuins.esp Skyrim Reborn - Whiterun Hold.esp Karthwasten - Let The Silver Flow.esp Overstead.esp danyanavysofskyrim.esp Badersee.esp CL BarrelsCratesChests.esp cliffs.esp Convenient Bridges.esp Northern Marsh Bridges SE.esp The Ruins.esp Man Those Borders!.esp HoldBorderBanners.esp Laundry.esp frozenintime.esp BetterTreasuryHouse.esp WindstadMine.esp BOSFelhammerForge.esp CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp BlendedRoads.esp ValkyrjaEstate.esp ValkyrjaEstate_AlternateStart_Patch.esp Potions.esp BottlesOfSkyrim.esp ApotheosisDemo.esp CoveredCarriagesSMIM.esp 3DNPC.esp TES5SE NPCs Travel.esp SolstheimMerchantsInWhiterun.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp skyforgedWeapons.esp Elemental_Staffs.esp RoyalDaedric.esp SPOAsilverknight.esp MasterArchmagesRobes.esp DtRS - Apocalypse Patch.esp EnneadShields.esp T'Skyrim - True Skyrim.esp Mors Feminine Females - All.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Botox.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Bijin Wives.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp BijinAIO_SSE-3.1.1-SV.esp DivinePeopleOfSkyrim.esp Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp CiceroFemaleSE.esp 3dnpcbabes.esp CharacterMakingExtender.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Player Blink Fix.esp Beards.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp AFT - USSEP Patch.esp AFT - Dragonborn Patch.esp MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp zMirai.esp CaesiaFollower.esp JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp JKs Skyrim_Mirai_Patch.esp Book of UUNP - Textures.esp Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp PeroPeroArmorPackSE.esp RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp RSChildren.esp RSC 3DNPC Patch.esp RSC CRF Patch.esp RSC Forgotten City Patch.esp RSC HR Patch.esp RSC LotD Patch.esp HagravenSkinShaders.esp Skysan_Icicle.esp FireBurns.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp DustEffectsSSE.esp Facelight.esp VioLens SE.esp SOT-Sleeping.esp QuickLight.esp Optional Starting Spells.esp HearthfireMultiKid.esp HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp SimplyKnock.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp Realistic Haircolors.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Enhanced Blood Patch.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Obsidian Weathers Patch.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - True Storms Patch.esp RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp ELE_SSE.esp OutlawRefugesELEPatch.esp STAC.esp Run For Your Lives.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp RWT - People of Skyrim Patch.esp JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp RWT Lod Fix.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp RDO - USSEP Patch.esp RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp Serana Dialogue Edit.esp SDE LoTD Patch.esp DBM_AOS_Patch.esp DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp DBM_CRF_Patch.esp DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp DBM_iNeed_Patch.esp DBM_RSChildren.esp DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp FNIS.esp FNISspells.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp FNISSexyMove.esp FNIS_PCEA2.esp TKDodge.esp Immersive Wenches.esp Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp FlowerGirls SE - Caesia.esp FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp HelmetToggle.esp HentaiCreatures.esp LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp LeftHandRings.esp MiasLair.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp Runandwalkpaces.esp RohZima_AnimObjects.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp Joy of Perspective.esp JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp TheBawbsShire.esp Toccata as Elisif.esp Visible Favorited Gear.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp Anyway to solve this issue? Thank you.
GenioMaestro Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Have similar problems with followers time ago and i not find a way for solve it. The AI work with packages and sometimes, when change it, go buged. The only real solution is load a savegame from one week ago, or two if need, without the AI bug stored.
crazycow Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 i think Uthgerd use = No Crime when you attack people she can't help you But ...she can help guard kill you so stupid Uthgerd ?? in CK set Agressive Foolhardy Help Friend And allies Any Crime for follower
Psalam Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Spoiler 51 minutes ago, Apollo04 said: As the title say, in my current playthrough, my follower (Uthgerd in this case) starts acting all kind of retarded, namely not engaging enemies unless I (a squishy mage that'll die in one hit) or she (rarely happens) got hit first. If I engage the enemies first, she'll hang around the back and watch like it's a very interesting live show or something. In the previous playthroughs, she was always one of the first to charge when an enemies was near and on the radar, before I even spotted them. Occasionally, the AI acts correctly and she engages in battle properly, but it happens like 2-3 times during the entire Bleak Falls Barrow, and never in the wild. I'm using AFT, and have made sure that the option "Follower never initiate combat" was ticked off, and her AI was Agressive. This is my load order: Reveal hidden contents Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm BSAssets.esm BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp Campfire.esm Alpine Forest of Whiterun Valley.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm RaceCompatibility.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm FlowerGirls SE.esm CreatureFramework.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp Inns and Taverns.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp SkyUI_SE.esp iHUD.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Ducks and Swans.esp TerrainLodRedone.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp Helgen Reborn.esp ForgottenCity.esp Clockwork.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RND_BSHeartland.esp WetandCold.esp Immersive Horses.esp Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Medium Script Range.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp OBIS SE.esp Better Vampires.esp PathOfSorcery.esp PoS Apocalypse Patch SE.esp Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp Rebalanced Encounter Zones.esp Skytoxin.esp Ars Metallica.esp simpleCarriageExpansion.esp Immersive Encounters.esp BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp Obsidian Weathers.esp TrueStormsSE.esp True Storms - Obsidian Weathers - Patch .esp WondersofWeather.esp MajesticMountains.esp MajesticMountains_Moss.esp SunDaytimeNorth_MM_default.esp SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp JKs Skyrim.esp Blues Skyrim.esp JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp The Great City of Winterhold.esp Raven Rock.esp Raven Rock - Clockwork Patch.esp SkyrimSewers.esp OutlawsRefuges.esp DragonbridgeVendorsAndBlacksmith.esp OldHroldanRuins.esp Skyrim Reborn - Whiterun Hold.esp Karthwasten - Let The Silver Flow.esp Overstead.esp danyanavysofskyrim.esp Badersee.esp CL BarrelsCratesChests.esp cliffs.esp Convenient Bridges.esp Northern Marsh Bridges SE.esp The Ruins.esp Man Those Borders!.esp HoldBorderBanners.esp Laundry.esp frozenintime.esp BetterTreasuryHouse.esp WindstadMine.esp BOSFelhammerForge.esp CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp BlendedRoads.esp ValkyrjaEstate.esp ValkyrjaEstate_AlternateStart_Patch.esp Potions.esp BottlesOfSkyrim.esp ApotheosisDemo.esp CoveredCarriagesSMIM.esp 3DNPC.esp TES5SE NPCs Travel.esp SolstheimMerchantsInWhiterun.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp skyforgedWeapons.esp Elemental_Staffs.esp RoyalDaedric.esp SPOAsilverknight.esp MasterArchmagesRobes.esp DtRS - Apocalypse Patch.esp EnneadShields.esp T'Skyrim - True Skyrim.esp Mors Feminine Females - All.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Botox.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Bijin Wives.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp BijinAIO_SSE-3.1.1-SV.esp DivinePeopleOfSkyrim.esp Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp CiceroFemaleSE.esp 3dnpcbabes.esp CharacterMakingExtender.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Player Blink Fix.esp Beards.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp AFT - USSEP Patch.esp AFT - Dragonborn Patch.esp MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp zMirai.esp CaesiaFollower.esp JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp JKs Skyrim_Mirai_Patch.esp Book of UUNP - Textures.esp Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp PeroPeroArmorPackSE.esp RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp RSChildren.esp RSC 3DNPC Patch.esp RSC CRF Patch.esp RSC Forgotten City Patch.esp RSC HR Patch.esp RSC LotD Patch.esp HagravenSkinShaders.esp Skysan_Icicle.esp FireBurns.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp DustEffectsSSE.esp Facelight.esp VioLens SE.esp SOT-Sleeping.esp QuickLight.esp Optional Starting Spells.esp HearthfireMultiKid.esp HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp SimplyKnock.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp Realistic Haircolors.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Enhanced Blood Patch.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Obsidian Weathers Patch.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - True Storms Patch.esp RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp ELE_SSE.esp OutlawRefugesELEPatch.esp STAC.esp Run For Your Lives.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp RWT - People of Skyrim Patch.esp JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp RWT Lod Fix.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp RDO - USSEP Patch.esp RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp Serana Dialogue Edit.esp SDE LoTD Patch.esp DBM_AOS_Patch.esp DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp DBM_CRF_Patch.esp DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp DBM_iNeed_Patch.esp DBM_RSChildren.esp DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp FNIS.esp FNISspells.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp FNISSexyMove.esp FNIS_PCEA2.esp TKDodge.esp Immersive Wenches.esp Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp FlowerGirls SE - Caesia.esp FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp HelmetToggle.esp HentaiCreatures.esp LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp LeftHandRings.esp MiasLair.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp Runandwalkpaces.esp RohZima_AnimObjects.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp Joy of Perspective.esp JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp TheBawbsShire.esp Toccata as Elisif.esp Visible Favorited Gear.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp Anyway to solve this issue? Thank you. I will begin with my usual proviso on this thread and concede at the beginning that GenioMaestro knows far more about this stuff than I do. That being said let me offer you the practical suggestion of moving your question to the SE thread. This may be an issue that the people who use SE a lot have already encountered and for which they have a solution. Of course, if you are not running SE you may have an entirely different problem since many of the mods that you are loading are SE mods (and LE and SE mods don't play well together).
Uncle64 Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 You can try to disable and enable the follower. The same happens in my game to. Can be annoying when they starts to bug out and dont act as they should. My self uses FLP for my follower. If you have Vilja installed you can also try the spell that comes whit that mod and reset the NPC:s
woodsman30 Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Uncle64 said: My self uses FLP for my follower. Only one I will use anymore best follower system I have ever used or found.
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