xyzxyz Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Hi, i want to clean a save. The save is only lvl 2 and nothing big happend. When I want to open that save in savetool, savetool crashes at once. What does that mean? Is the save broken or something like that? And what does "ActiveScript count is quite high, (763)." mean for my game? The char (not the same as above) has lots of random freezes and ctds in city or wandering the land. Any Idea why?
fred200 Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Only report I have seen of Savetool crashing opening a save is if the string table overflowed. That save is gone for good. Try an earlier save and see what looks abnormal. On a 20 meg save lvl 64 character, my active script count is 75. So yes, yours is too high. Use less mods, and better behaved ones. Some of yours are running amok.
xyzxyz Posted June 6, 2018 Author Posted June 6, 2018 8 hours ago, fred200 said: Use less mods, and better behaved ones. Some of yours are running amok. This is my mod list. Which mods could cause trouble? Big story mods like slaverun didn't started so far. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 AOM.esm 7 7 SkyMoMod.esm 8 8 BBLuxurySuite.esm 9 9 SexLab.esm 10 a SexLabAroused.esm 11 b Devious Devices - Assets.esm 12 c ZaZAnimationPack.esm 13 d MiasLair.esp 14 e Devious Devices - Integration.esm 15 f Inn Girls Resources.esm 16 10 Gray Fox Cowl.esm 17 11 daymoyl.esm 18 12 hdtHighHeel.esm 19 13 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 20 14 UndergroundBathhouse.esm 21 15 ApachiiHair.esm 22 16 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 23 17 CreatureFramework.esm 24 18 paradise_halls.esm 25 19 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 26 1a lordship.esp 27 1b Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 28 1c Immersive Jewelry.esp 29 1d paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 30 1e MoreBanditCamps(Original-Edition).esp 31 1f Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 32 20 SSv2.esp 33 21 SLKidnapped.esp 34 22 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 35 23 xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp 36 24 Dragon Born Castle.esp 37 25 caliente's beautiful bodies edition.esp 38 26 ts_erocktheme.esp 39 27 viking warsword.esp 40 28 ragnarsword.esp 41 29 ensiferumbattlemusicbattlesong.esp 42 2a Immersive Weapons.esp Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp 43 2b Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 44 2c old-draugr-new-tricks.esp 45 2d SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 46 2e Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp 47 2f SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 48 30 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp Captured Dreams.esp 49 31 SexLab-Stories.esp 50 32 sutvaka2.esp 51 33 Forgotten Dungeons.esp 52 34 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 53 35 TBOS.esp analtmerintrigue-hf.esp 54 36 more dragons.esp 55 37 Gatti12Jewelry.esp 56 38 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 57 39 AsharaImperialOutfit.esp 58 3a When Vampires Attack.esp 59 3b HearthfireMultiKid.esp 60 3c HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 61 3d SkyUI.esp 62 3e MoreSlaves.esp GM-CookingRebalanceFinal.esp 63 3f SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp 64 40 SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp 65 41 AOM.esp 66 42 Cloaks.esp 67 43 Run For Your Lives.esp 68 44 zNightMistressMansion.esp 69 45 Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp 70 46 SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 71 47 mihailanimalbones.esp 72 48 FyrManor_BASE.esp 73 49 DeviousTraps.esp buildablehouse.esp 74 4a PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp 75 4b MoonstoneCastle.esp 76 4c vikinghouse.esp 77 4d GR123 Knights Templar.esp 78 4e SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp 79 4f Slaverun_Reloaded.esp 80 50 mihaillegion.esp 81 51 markartharena.esp 82 52 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 83 53 morehunting.esp 84 54 SexLabSexBounty.esp 85 55 S_L_U_T_S.esp 86 56 SimpleSlavery.esp 87 57 BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp 88 58 Roman armor and weapons replacer.esp 89 59 Immersive Wenches.esp 90 5a RewardYourFollowers.esp 91 5b PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp 92 5c SexLab_Dialogues.esp 93 5d mihaildracolizards.esp 94 5e quest_pitfighter.esp 95 5f AyleidSanctuary.esp 96 60 BBLSVisitors.esp 97 61 MoreNastyCritters.esp 98 62 diversified conjuration.esp 99 63 paradise_halls_family_feud.esp 100 64 Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp 101 65 northman race.esp SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 102 66 artillery_dfa.esp 103 67 FyrManor_DAWNGUARD.esp falkreath lookout.esp 104 68 OvIbrewing.esp beschuetzer von himmelsrand.esp 105 69 draugraxe.esp 106 6a SpousesEnhanced.esp 107 6b mihailrottenmaidens.esp 108 6c MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 109 6d FyrManor_HEARTHFIRE.esp 110 6e mihailmmasithis.esp 111 6f SlaversHideout.esp 112 70 BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp 113 71 moresmeltables.esp 114 72 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 115 73 dr_bandolier.esp 116 74 BBLSspouse.esp 117 75 paula_follower.esp 118 76 sandboxcylinderheight.esp 119 77 NorseMaille.esp 120 78 LoversComfort.esp 121 79 Roman armor and weapons.esp 122 7a JolgeirrBarrow.esp 123 7b NewmillerPiercings2.esp 124 7c NewmillerPiercings3.esp 125 7d SexLab Brawling Rape.esp 126 7e Lets Tie You Up.esp DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp display-model.esp 127 7f DeviouslyHelpless.esp 128 80 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 129 81 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 130 82 RaceMenu.esp 131 83 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 132 84 SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 133 85 zSLSDNeophytes.esp 134 86 TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp 135 87 romanweapons.esp 136 88 FNISspells.esp 137 89 DD - Interactions.esp 138 8a zzEstrus.esp 139 8b EstrusChaurus.esp 140 8c UIExtensions.esp 141 8d Greek_Armor.esp 142 8e SLPleasure.esp 143 8f CaesiaFollower.esp 144 90 MoreRevelers.esp 145 91 SLAnimLoader.esp 146 92 SLALAnimObj.esp 147 93 DrunkenSluts.esp 148 94 ub_cell_darkarea.esp 149 95 ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp 150 96 ub_tapestry.esp 151 97 ub_invite_any_npc.esp 152 98 EstrusSpider.esp 153 99 Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp 154 9a BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 155 9b dD Enchanted Chests.esp 156 9c Kylie.esp 157 9d SLDrunk.esp 158 9e GGFriendlyWhore.esp 159 9f SlaveTats.esp 160 a0 ContinueGameNoCrash.esp 161 a1 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 162 a2 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 163 a3 Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp 164 a4 theeyesofbeauty.esp 165 a5 Afro_TW2_armorpack.esp 166 a6 TW3Weaponry.esp 167 a7 KeiraMetz.esp 168 a8 aSexyMod.esp 169 a9 mihaildruidbackpack.esp 170 aa FNIS.esp 171 ab SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 172 ac HentaiCreatures.esp 173 ad SexLabDefeat.esp 174 ae BBLSmusic.esp 175 af paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 176 b0 SLAL_K4Anims.esp 177 b1 XPMSE.esp 178 b2 Crossbows_Basic_Collection_DE_LL.esp 179 b3 zzMaidOutfits.esp 180 b4 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 181 b5 ccas_starts.esp
Grey Cloud Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 The number of active scripts will vary through the game so it is not necessarily a problem. You will probably get more joy on the support forum for the save tool.
Corsayr Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 If savetool is crashing try ReSaver from Fallrim tools https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/76776/
xyzxyz Posted June 6, 2018 Author Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: The number of active scripts will vary through the game so it is not necessarily a problem. When I have 763 scripts with a char who is lvl 9 and didn't do any story quest or big mod like slaverun, I fear that later in the game when I did some quest the scripts will be many more. And there is the problem with the ctds, caused by too many scripts maybe?
xyzxyz Posted June 6, 2018 Author Posted June 6, 2018 Most of the 763 active scripts are "terminated" says the Resaver Tool. What does that mean?
fred200 Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 Your mod list is - problematic. Use a mod manager with profiles. Select maybe 30 must-have mods as a base, then in each profile add something you want to try. Don't ever run CD with Mia's Lair. Don't run Luxury Suite with anything else. Disable xpmse.esp. Don't run most Creature mods. List goes on and on - you get the idea. With as many mods as you have, and as script heavy as they are - you will always have crashes.
xyzxyz Posted June 6, 2018 Author Posted June 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, fred200 said: Your mod list is - problematic. Use a mod manager with profiles. Select maybe 30 must-have mods as a base, then in each profile add something you want to try. Don't ever run CD with Mia's Lair. Don't run Luxury Suite with anything else. Disable xpmse.esp. Don't run most Creature mods. List goes on and on - you get the idea. With as many mods as you have, and as script heavy as they are - you will always have crashes. how can I see how heavy a mod is? Do non-sexlab mods like new armor and weapons mods cause problems too?
fred200 Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, xyzxyz said: how can I see how heavy a mod is? Do non-sexlab mods like new armor and weapons mods cause problems too? Armor and weapon mods are usually fine. Go crazy on them. Any texture mod should be fine. Quest mods are typically heavy and possibly problematic. I would use CD alone for that reason. If you ever try Maria Eden - use it with nothing else other than your base. It barely plays well with itself. Paradise Halls - make sure you are using PAHE from here, and you are missing a bet if you don't pair it with Home Sweet Home. I disable the XPMSE esp because I don't want those animations - and log errors. Skeleton is fine - and required. In your base put things like Sexlab, DD, SLAL, and animations. Things you want in every profile. Make a clean save of your base - and don't let it get polluted. When you start a new profile, copy that base save over.
xyzxyz Posted June 6, 2018 Author Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, fred200 said: Armor and weapon mods are usually fine. Go crazy on them. Any texture mod should be fine. Quest mods are typically heavy and possibly problematic. I would use CD alone for that reason. If you ever try Maria Eden - use it with nothing else other than your base. It barely plays well with itself. Paradise Halls - make sure you are using PAHE from here, and you are missing a bet if you don't pair it with Home Sweet Home. I disable the XPMSE esp because I don't want those animations - and log errors. Skeleton is fine - and required. In your base put things like Sexlab, DD, SLAL, and animations. Things you want in every profile. Make a clean save of your base - and don't let it get polluted. When you start a new profile, copy that base save over. The most important mods from sexlab I want to use are: Dovakihns infamy, Slaverun (needs all the DDs), Dibellas Sisters, PAHE (and HSH and AYGAS), and Amorouse Adventures. Is that too much?
fred200 Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, xyzxyz said: The most important mods from sexlab I want to use are: Dovakihns infamy, Slaverun (needs all the DDs), Dibellas Sisters, PAHE (and HSH and AYGAS), and Amorouse Adventures. Is that too much? Slaverun deserves it's own profile. Game distorting and not part of the base. PAHE and HSH are probably stable enough to be in base. AYGAS seems to have some stability issues - so not base. The rest are not base - you could lump them all in an "Adventuring" profile and see how it goes. I also recommend running with logging turned on. That could show you what is happening with all those terminated scripts. And definitely use "Crash Fixes".
xyzxyz Posted June 6, 2018 Author Posted June 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, fred200 said: Slaverun deserves it's own profile. Game distorting and not part of the base. PAHE and HSH are probably stable enough to be in base. AYGAS seems to have some stability issues - so not base. The rest are not base - you could lump them all in an "Adventuring" profile and see how it goes. I also recommend running with logging turned on. That could show you what is happening with all those terminated scripts. And definitely use "Crash Fixes". What mod manager should I use to get different profiles? nexus can't do that.
fred200 Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 5 hours ago, xyzxyz said: What mod manager should I use to get different profiles? nexus can't do that. Another note: Don't put any mod by Delzaron in your base. Give them a profile of their own. Mod Organizer handles profiles very well. Vortex is the new mod manager that also handles profiles - but a bit of a learning curve.
xyzxyz Posted June 6, 2018 Author Posted June 6, 2018 56 minutes ago, fred200 said: Another note: Don't put any mod by Delzaron in your base. Give them a profile of their own. Mod Organizer handles profiles very well. Vortex is the new mod manager that also handles profiles - but a bit of a learning curve. What's the problem with Delzarons Mods? i'm testing nightmisstress mansion at the moment.
fred200 Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, xyzxyz said: What's the problem with Delzarons Mods? i'm testing nightmisstress mansion at the moment. Delzaron is a great designer, but his mods tend to be script heavy and a bit unstable. That makes them a good candidate for a profile, maybe with some other related mods. I would not put them in your stable base - no reason to. Base should only be mods required by a lot of other mods. If you run nightmistress mansion without problems - you are a better player than me. And that is one of his smaller ones.
xyzxyz Posted June 6, 2018 Author Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, fred200 said: Delzaron is a great designer, but his mods tend to be script heavy and a bit unstable. That makes them a good candidate for a profile, maybe with some other related mods. I would not put them in your stable base - no reason to. Base should only be mods required by a lot of other mods. If you run nightmistress mansion without problems - you are a better player than me. And that is one of his smaller ones. Well, I have lots of problems with nightmisstress mansion ^^ The last 20 comments in the mods discussion section are written by me ^^
Sladen2019 Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 You seem to have a tendency of asking for help and then not actually listening to helpful answers. You should be using the more modern version of More Nasty Critters. It has less esps and works better with newer mods. Run for Your Lives latest version has When Vampires Attack built into it., soo obviously you do not need When Vampires Attack. You shouldnt be using Paradise Family Feud with the new PAHE and other new PAHE related mods. If you intend to use many script heavy mods, you really should be using Crash Fixes. Make sure to set UseOSAllocators=1 in its CrashFixPlugin.ini. It will require SKSE Plugin Preloader.Install both mods manually. Get rid of Continue Game No Crash. If you have trouble loading saves, you can use Load Game CTD Fix. If you want to use Mod Organizer, you should watch the video tutorials on it by Gopher. https://www.gophersvids.com/?gopher_storyboard=mod-organizer Do not try to import the stuff from NMM into it. It is best off to wipe everything and start fresh.
xyzxyz Posted June 7, 2018 Author Posted June 7, 2018 22 hours ago, Sladen2019 said: You seem to have a tendency of asking for help and then not actually listening to helpful answers. You should be using the more modern version of More Nasty Critters. It has less esps and works better with newer mods. Run for Your Lives latest version has When Vampires Attack built into it., soo obviously you do not need When Vampires Attack. You shouldnt be using Paradise Family Feud with the new PAHE and other new PAHE related mods. I have the newest versions of mnc and Run for your life is updated too now. I had for a very long time no problems with crashes so it's all a bit sudden.
xyzxyz Posted June 7, 2018 Author Posted June 7, 2018 Crash fixes is magic. I can play a very old save again which has been changed dozens of times and mods. If I get the PAHE upgrade done right that char can be safed maybe.
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