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A Tale of Two Kallistas


Jexsam

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Meaningless Poll of Curiosity  

48 members have voted

  1. 1. Which version of Kallista do you prefer?

    • Prime Kallista
      22
    • Barbarian Kallista
      26

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Prime Kallista / Barbarian Kallista



As far as my Skyrim install is concerned, there are two distinct continuities - a "prime" timeline, and an alternate timeline. The Prime timeline is usually more serious or grounded, while the alternate timeline is where I can relax a bit and have fun with the characters in more unusual (and often lewd) ways. In the case of Kallista specifically, which is what this blog post is mainly dealing with, the difference is pretty obvious. Starting from this blog post onwards, posts in the Alternate Timeline will be tagged and headed with an "(AT)" left-aligned at the top of the blog post. Unmarked blogs should be assumed to be Prime Timeline. Given most of my posts up to now are probably nuked thanks to Imgbox going down, I won't be retroactively adding the tag to older posts, however all Tutelage of Neloth posts should be considered Alternate Timeline.

Why do I bring this up now? Well, you might recall in a previous blog post, I talked about "breaking the rules" with a character and tossed around the idea of doing something out of the ordinary with Kallista. Well try as I might, I couldn't come up with a satisfactory way to handle it, despite the ideas presenting in your responses. Then it hit me - I could take advantage of the Barbarian Kallista persona. They are, ostensibly, the same person with the same core hangups, but the alternate timeline aspect gives me room to fudge things. To that end, when I get around to making that set, it will be starring Barbarian Kallista specifically.

What's the difference between the two, I pretend to hear you ask? Prime Kallista's background is laid out in her profile post (pardon the missing pics, I've got plans to deal with the profile posts, trim the fat and include new shots with my upgraded graphical capabilities), so I'll skip the largely similar history and skip straight to where Barbarian Kallista's path first diverges...

Working as a mercenary, Kallista found herself growing more and more restless. Battle seemed to set a fire in her chest. Each passing day made her long more and more to go back north to Skyrim. Leaving only a letter thanking her friends for all the help they'd been, she slipped out and went north alone. It was a mere twist of fate rather than a passion for her homeland and her people that found Kallista caught up in an Imperial ambush, starting her path as Dragonborn. She sympathizes with the plight of the Stormcloaks and admires their will to seize their own independence, but unlike her Prime counterpart, her heart yearns first and foremost for her own freedom, unfettered by vows or allegiance... and nothing made her feel more free or more powerful than devouring dragon souls. She began fashioning crude yet complex "armor" from the bones of her prey, culminating in the forging of her sword, Shulnahrein. Now she stalks the wilderness hunting dragons, collecting rumors from inns and taverns during her frequent but brief visits to the major cities, growing her power in anticipation of the ultimate hunt - Alduin himself.

Barbarian Kallista's inner fire burns more wildly than her Prime counterpart, pushing her to act more recklessly. Though her sensibilities in sexual partners is essentially the same, her stronger connection to her baser instincts makes her slightly more flexible than she currently believes - it just hasn't occurred to her... yet.

That's it for that! Hopefully this has been informative.

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Prime Kallista seems more realistic, and at the same time more complex as a character (she seems determined and resolved from her expressions and attitudes, and yet she has a part of sweetness as if was shown with Rikki). So I prefer that one for my part. :)

 

 

However all Tutelage of Neloth posts should be considered Alternate Timeline.
Noooo ! :(

 

That a bit sad considering the tutelages were the main and almost only source of information for us to know Selune, her stunned magicka condition, her personality and life course. If all of that were to be considered non-canon, then it would mostly mean that Selune is in fact unknown to us readers. :(

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I don't mind either, however I do think that it's weird that they share the same hair. Barbarian's hair isn't very barbaric.

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However all Tutelage of Neloth posts should be considered Alternate Timeline.

Noooo ! :(

 

That a bit sad considering the tutelages were the main and almost only source of information for us to know Selune, her stunned magicka condition, her personality and life course. If all of that were to be considered non-canon, then it would mostly mean that Selune is in fact unknown to us readers. :(

Y'know... you're right. Making all of that blanket non-canon is a big disservice to the character and my readers.

 

Thing is, I'm not fully comfortable saying *every* one of those stories is absolute fact. I'm probably overthinking it or worrying too much but I feel like there's a big difference between saying "what if this character did is" and "this character definitely did this". I should really also do more stories with her in general...

 

I'll give it some thought. Right now I'm leaning towards doing a master list and individually tagging each story. But we'll see, I may also just redact that statement entirely and make them all Prime timeline. We'll see.

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I don't mind either, however I do think that it's weird that they share the same hair. Barbarian's hair isn't very barbaric.

There's not really a lot of good barbarian hairstyles out there, honestly. Still, you've got a point. I'll play around with her and see what seems right.

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Just needs to be less styled is all, fucked up hair tangled with viscera isn't necessary. Function over form is the simple objective, a single unbraided ponytail or something would do.

 

Also I originally thought I couldn't be fucked commenting on the topic but I'm bored and here we are.

 

You seem pretty lost regarding what it is you plan to present through this blog. The asking if the audience wants bestiality and then kinda figuring out you're not completely okay with that, and then presenting a sub-categorization of a timeline to justify certain actions of certain characters is pretty damn lost. None of it is wrong and I'm not saying you hadn't split the timelines before this decision, but it all seems a less obvious conclusion than others available.

 

You obviously value maintaining your personal interpretation of your own characters, which is also fine. But it kinda directly collides with what most blog posts here aim to achieve, and thus what most people expect from it.

 

Maintain your own canon if it is important to you, and refuse to depict the characters outside of such restrictions if that too is important to you. But then you shouldn't be offering things you aren't quite willing to deliver without making private canonical overhauls and then presenting them to the audience.

 

Have your separate timelines if you want, but spin it to the audience that they're still connected or some shit. Have your character suddenly be her barbarian version, give a small amount of exposition explaining that her most recent messed up as her racial fury was brought up and she found herself clad in bones by the end of it. Then do whatever non-canonical thing you want(or what your audience wants, and having polls to decide such things implies you're fine with what they want), however you can write it. Think of it as a way to stretch your boundaries if that helps. Then at the end if you're still unhappy with what you presented, just toss an IT-WAS-ALL-A-DREAM dis-qualifier at the end.

 

There is some merit in good presentation to stand shoulders above the sea of broken-English smutty muck that most blogs here are, but while the sea remains in its state you aren't going to get any criticism over such a basic cop-out. The only possible negative outcome from such writing could be that the audience could be disappointed that your character didn't actually feel into whatever was being depicted, but you can bandage that concern by reinforcing that she was unintentionally aroused by the dream or something; as human minds are often titillated by something they would other times consider abhorrent. When you are writing from a perspective inside a character's head it's fine to be hypocritical, it's where we all always are.

 

That's just one example. And now to toss out a TL;DR:

 

Decide just how much decision-making your audience has with polls and commit to it. Don't believe that your personal canon has to be completely air-tight and lore-accurate. You can justify almost anything with only a very tiny personal interpretation of the lore, lust curses and drugs, dreams, incredibly contrived circumstances and shit. And at the end of the day if something is only partially outside of your comfort zone enough to poll an audience about it, just bite the bullet and dive into it. You might hate having done so at the end of the day but your audience still got what they wanted, and you know more about what you are willing to do for them or not.

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You seem pretty lost regarding what it is you plan to present through this blog.

Truth be told, I don't do much planning at all. Originally the intention was for this to just be a place I posted the odd story, sex-related or otherwise, as I made them. For a little while that's exactly how it worked. Posted a few stories, a few character profiles, worked through the better part of an ongoing thing I had been doing for me alone and figured other people might enjoy.

 

But then, they did. And that's when I started something I knew better than to start - I started talking about ideas. Not the concretely finished stuff I had already completed, but cool ideas in my head. I started teasing things that were partly done, but still required some work to finish. How many times did I say I had more Tutelage in the pipeline that I just had to sit down and do? Too many is what. And they're still there, too.

 

As if that wasn't bad enough, then I started making polls. The idea behind doing so was innocent enough. I figured if I knew there was interest, maybe I'd feel a little more compelled to actually do something. So much for that, eh?

 

I let what was supposed to just be me throwing things out there evolve into something I clearly wasn't prepared for or capable of handling. I still think I've got something to offer, but I need to know my limits - what I can and can't do, what I am or am not willing to commit to, what I'm willing to attempt. It's pretty obvious that right now, I simply don't.

 

I appreciate you taking the time to lay all that out. The problems you've illuminated with the topic at hand are symptomatic of issues I've had almost since the beginning, and I'm glad you made me really think about it.

 

I've got some thinking to do.

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Eh, I'm fine with whatever "version" of whatever character you want to showcase, to be honest. It's your blog, so you're obviously perfectly free to post whatever you want to.

 

If having alternate-timeline versions of your characters lets you do things with them that you might not otherwise (be it at the desire of the blog audience, or your own), then go for it. Personally I'd be interested in seeing stories for both versions of any of them, if nothing else to see what differences there might be. You could even utilize those alternate versions as possible storylines if you wanted to, where some sort of magical/dimensional shift lets one of them interact with the alternate version of themselves or of someone else for a short time (sort of like a couple of the other blogs have been doing with cameos and crossovers and stuff). So there could be more to having these alternate versions than just playing around with them, if you wanted.

 

That being said, if there's a theme you're interested in exploring (bestiality for example, I guess), but you simply can't justify doing it with any of your current characters due to the histories and personalities that you've developed for them, it might be easier to just invent a new character that simply doesn't have the same sort of...restrictions that your current ones might. Rather than trying to force it, come up with a new character that, while maybe not spreading them wide for everything under the sun, might be more open to the idea or willing to give something a try that your other character's wouldn't be.

 

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