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Sure. and that'll be fine for future starts, but I have a current game which has both and is too far progressed to want to go back to the beginning ... DQW

Thanks for the reply on the tech stuff And that! I needed a laugh this morning... DQW

Being as thick as a thick thick thickthing on a thick making mouldy cheese sandwich (with apologies to Edmund Blackadder) does this mean that the following routes are those which should work and which we should use ------------------ A) If we ONLY have DOM inour load order, we can sell DOM slaves directly - by using PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.72h_DOM_SSE.7z ---------------- BUT ---------------- B) if we have PAHE in our load order as well as DOM, to sell DOM slaves we MUST 1st : t/f DOM Slaves to PAHE and only then 2nd : sell the PAHE slaves, either a) those who have only ever been PAHE slaves or b) those which are now PAHE slaves having been t/f from DOM - by using PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.72h_SSE.7z --------------- There are times that I think it would have been simpler to be born a peasant than a pedant or, even worse a pedant peasant 😉 DQW

FWIW, LL mods' Skyrim Cart system was VERY VERY shaky at first - flying carts and falling over if you blew at it etc I've got SMP and most common physics mods, but I don't have any really terrible problems with the recent versions AS LONG AS - you take time to set the player into the drivers seat, - move it by VERY VERY light touches to the directional keys, and - try to avoid anything that has a sudden 'lipped' change in the terrain. So (assuming that the basic cart mod has not been modified in this generational outing), unless you have something really weird in your setup, you should be able to do Ivarstead to Riverwood in one continuous trip (other interruptions, eg bandit attacks etc) with no problem once you get the hang of it Hope that helps DQW

Shift The Slavecart mod BELOW the main DOM mod in your MO2 Lefthand Pane. Check the Cart mod 'Conflicts' column has a (lightning bolt with a green+ symbol). Also Rt Click the mod entry and check the 'Conflicts' tab to check that the relevant DOM files are being overwritten (Apologies if trying to teach egg sucking but your profile is pretty slim) DQW

And FWIW, depending on the follower parameters on combat defeat, followers can be sent into slavery by FSM, EVEN WHEN the player is NOT sent to Simple Slavery but merely to another of Defeat's possible player outcomes. (I'm assuming that you are using this version of Defeat)

Thanks vm for the update, Mr CyberBrie! ================ Anyone able to help on this? As it states that a new game MAY be needed, has anyone out there got the update working on an existing game? Sadly I'm really too far down the rabbit hole on my current game to risk screwing it up, or even start again just to update this Any help/thoughts on ppl's experience would be welcome, so TIA DQW

Same DD Version here, without the other mods listed, ie Devious Devices NG v0.4.2 (And I'm trying to t/f from DOM to PAHE in the Restless Hunter. FWIW if I try to transfer them from DOM into HSH at the Restless Hunter, I get the 'HSH is not set up in this location' message, probably as I haven't yet got the HSH quest to start - it doesn't seem to want to do that unless I first disable the starting quest - and as it wouldn't begin with slaves from DOM, I was trying to move them into PAHE to see if I could then get HSH to start properly by then selling them to Pardo as PAHE slaves) DQW

@TrollAutokill Been thinking about this further so, look, even if this isn't just my cackhandedness, or some element of senility exceeding the limits of my comprehension, if there isn't a simple explanation or easy fix for this 'costume' oddity, don't waste too much time on it. I'm sure that there is plenty of more important stuff to do on major parts of the mod suite, impacting on lots more people, that you should be dealing with first. Please stay with the main things, and the bigger audience, rather than faffing about unduly on this issue. Embry has a load of patience and can continue to wait with his semi addled stoicism, It also gives Brenuin a chance to eye up the talent in Whiterun. Choosing between Carlotta and Ysolda needs some further reflection 😜 DQW

This is what you need

IIRC, the model used by DOM IS the ZaZ model. But someone will correct me if I'm wrong DQW

Yes DQW

Do you mean that Zaz Armbinder? Personally, I would like to incinerate the modelled item. Look like a cheaply hashed together remake of the game's Arrow Quiver .... with neither style nor any resemblance to the real thing. Not that I could do better, TBH, but it still sucks compared to the DD models 😂 DQW

Hi Game PAHE 8.23 DOM 8.2.3 HSH 1.42d DOM_SSE AYGAS 0.72c SSE (still to upgrade to 0.72g DOM_SSE) ITF SSE 0.5 SLAVECART 1.1 DOM_SSE To see if I could get the HSH quest to start from scratch without cheating (that's a whole different problem and one which I have heard others have encountered too), I found out when trying to t/f a slave from PAHE to DOM I was encountering a major problem with outfit and worn equipment handling on the transfer. There must be some trick included in DOM's..... Outfit and Equipment Settings & Transfer from PAHE to DOM ....that I don't understand I really just do not get how any of this works, and I've spent hours trying all of what seem to be the obvious settings on Equipment handling and outfit management on slave mod>mod transfer So I have fairly thoroughly tested the way in which Equipment is handled in PAHE (albeit in my setup) and what then happens when the slave is t/f to DOM The test slave has a minimalist Equipment list in PAHE. (assume the 'Glowing Pearl' thing appears in all lists and is included in the numerical totals given) The main items appear under Equipment in both the Extended Console and the 'You will wear this inventory' Box as.... 1x DD Armbinder 1x Iron Slave Collar of Leashing 1x zbf Ankle Iron HDT ... and pics of the Console & Inventory box given below The fun actually starts even before this. At no point in the use of either mod do the visual models for DD and zbf items all appear. As shown above, in PAHE, if the DD item is equipped, only it appears on the slave, but the inventory box shows the reverse, implying that the zbf items are worn, but not the DD one. Same goes for DOM OK, that's weird, but would be just about liveable with if I decked out a slave in only zbf or only DD items, and I almost don't care any more and would settle on DD items, except that they seem to have a major hiccup on mod transfer, as I hope what follows shows. So, as I found out when trying to t/f a slave from PAHE to DOM : - NO MATTER WHAT settings I have in DOM for 'Outfit on Actor Release', (the 'Always restore Outfit' is said to affect t/f from DOM to HSH), - even when that is disabled AND I have removed all the inventory items from the slave (using the you're going to wear this option), after the slave has been transferred to DOM the whole shebang that I had removed has all been added back to the slave's inventory, and WORSE still, - the slave is left still EQUIPPED with the zbf items which didn't previously show, but which now can be seen, whilst the DD armbinder has been unequipped and transferred into the slave's Inventory 🤷‍♂️ qv Those images should cover the whole sequence.... Now, I may well be doing something wrong, but if anyone can help me by explaining .... 1 - how to get both DDs and zbf items both not only equipped but visible, and 2 - how to stop t/fs from PAHE to DOM stripping worn DD items from being 'equipped' to merely become Inventory items .........I shall buy you a barrel of Honningbrew and a Crate of Sweetrolls 😜 TIA DQW

That's fine. I thought it might have been a bit of an ask, but if you don't ask ..... 🙂 But thanks very much for taking the trouble to write such a full response. That's very much appreciated DQW