Skyrim's renderer fails at start-up

[Fifoo]

4 hours ago, skyrimowy said:

I would like to have windows 7 on my laptop but it's not possible with my CPU

Because Microsoft is saying your CPU will not be supported anymore? There is a big difference in being "not supported" and "not compatible". The well known firm is just trying to force all users to migrate on their Windows 10 Operating System.

The update function will not work "as intended"? They just add KB update data that will block Win 7 future updates. And for what? Just to add more and more issues ...

 

4 hours ago, skyrimowy said:

Windows 10 sometimes in itself is a problem.

Windows 10 is a telemetry nightmare:

 

Spoiler

Data syncing is by default enabled: browsing history and open websites, Apps settings, WiFi hotspot names and passwords, and your device is tagged with a unique advertising ID used to serve you with personalized advertisements by third-party advertisers and ad networks.

Cortana can collect any of your data: keystrokes, searches and mic input, calendar data, music you listen to, Credit Card information, data purchases.

Microsoft can collect any personal data: your identity, passwords, demographics, interests and habits, usage data, contacts and relationships, location data, content like emails, instant messages, caller list, audio and video recordings.

 

ALL your data can be shared: when downloading Windows 10, you are authorizing Microsoft to share any of above mentioned data with any third-party, with or without your consent.

 

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Sources:

http://thehackernews.com/2016/02/microsoft-windows10-privacy.html
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150820/06171332012/windows-10-reserves-right-to-block-pirated-games-unauthorized-hardware.shtml

 

Evidently ALL OSs have their pros and cons, but believe me: I for the love of what's the most sacred thing to my eyes, a thing we call freedom of decision - in terms of personal choices, would never intend to migrate towards this. After spending months to optimize Win 7 Pro according to personal needs and get rid of all KB Telemetry, unwanted background apps, useless functions, IE, Media Player, etc, ... the time would come to migrate for me will be for a Linux Distro.

 

Sorry for being off topic there but I wanted to clarify this subject, because what makes me jump the most is when a firm impose on someone a one-way choice.

 

4 hours ago, skyrimowy said:

6 months ago i have problems with broken hibernation mode, skyrim not read ENB and witcher 3 crash to desktop in many situations, when i reinstall update...everything returned to normal

A choice based on personal experience. It is true that nothing replaces this but what is valid for you may not be for others. The OP wants to avoid going through a reinstallation of update? It is his personal choice, perhaps not the best one, but I grant it in principle. And who knows, I already saw in other threads on Steam, Nexus, Reddit, Tom'sHardware, that reinstalling an update did not necessarily solve the problem because each configuration is different, yours, his, others and mine.

 

We propose all together, we see if it is feasible, and we move to another solution to try to solve the problem. When we have exhausted the valid subjects in the field of rendering, it will be necessary to rely on this last possibility.

 

Do not take it badly skyrimowy. I do not want under any circumstances that you feel directly targeted by these writings, I appreciate your interventions because they have the merit of wanting to help others, which comes from a noble feeling. The intend is trying to show that we still have other possibility and choices than those imposed by a system, system that has no purpose than to make a financial profit in such ways.

[Dilios300]

@skyrimowy

 

To reinstall the update, I would have to revert to a previous version of Windows 10, then install the update again. And thats how all of this started. So call me daft, but that just sounds like a bad idea.

 

@Fifoo

 

I'm not sure how you could take a screenshot outside of a Steam game. Everytime I tried, it didn't work....

 

The message appears after a few seconds of looking at a black screen (in windowed mode, I might add which is against what I have set in the launcher) and the error appears in a secondary window.

[Fifoo]

18 minutes ago, Dilios300 said:

I'm not sure how you could take a screenshot outside of a Steam game. Everytime I tried, it didn't work....

Try this: launch Steam in Offline Mode then load your game via MO. When the error window appear hit the [PrintScreen] key and copy/paste in Paint for example.

[Dilios300]

---------------------------
Skyrim
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Failed to initialize renderer.
Unknown error creating the renderer.
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OK   
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Is that what you were looking for?

[Deep Red]

Just wanted to say that I'm also having this same issue ever since the last Windows 10 update. I can pretty much narrow it down to that since I don't play Skyrim as much anymore, so there hasn't been any mods installed/removed in a long time. However, once that update for windows came around I was no longer able to play it at all. I've been wrestling with it the whole day and haven't found a solution yet.

 

It was working perfectly fine until then.

[Dilios300]

That'll teach us to update windows 10, eh?

[skyrimowy]

13 hours ago, Fifoo said:

16 hours ago, skyrimowy said:

I would like to have windows 7 on my laptop but it's not possible with my CPU

Because Microsoft is saying your CPU will not be supported anymore? There is a big difference in being "not supported" and "not compatible". The well known firm is just trying to force all users to migrate on their Windows 10 Operating System.

The update function will not work "as intended"? They just add KB update data that will block Win 7 future updates. And for what? Just to add more and more issues ...

 

my CPU works worst on windows 7 I tried and I just know it xD for example in witcher 3 in novigrad with windows 7  12-25FPS with crashes when in windows 10 have  28-45 [high settings] and never crash[played 2times with mods and without and never crash], bad optimization or something, for me is just incompatible and losing potential

13 hours ago, Fifoo said:

A choice based on personal experience. It is true that nothing replaces this but what is valid for you may not be for others. The OP wants to avoid going through a reinstallation of update? It is his personal choice, perhaps not the best one, but I grant it in principle. And who knows, I already saw in other threads on Steam, Nexus, Reddit, Tom'sHardware, that reinstalling an update did not necessarily solve the problem because each configuration is different, yours, his, others and mine.

 

We propose all together, we see if it is feasible, and we move to another solution to try to solve the problem. When we have exhausted the valid subjects in the field of rendering, it will be necessary to rely on this last possibility.

 

Do not take it badly skyrimowy. I do not want under any circumstances that you feel directly targeted by these writings, I appreciate your interventions because they have the merit of wanting to help others, which comes from a noble feeling. The intend is trying to show that we still have other possibility and choices than those imposed by a system, system that has no purpose than to make a financial profit in such ways.

it's okay i'm not angry ^^

just I always solve problems starting from what the problem create and for me is the best way

But really I hope that you will find another solution for this problem, because I know that may be hard decision with reinstalling windows update

 

No risk, No fun ^^

[Deep Red]

A little update: So I practiced my google-fu a bit and ran into several possible solutions but one in particular stood out for me. A TES forum I stumbled across in a language I didn't recognize (but google translate did!) mentioned that this has happened before in the past with other Win 10 updates. Anyway, it also explained that it has something to do with video drivers and that it can be resolved by running the game in windowed mode. Surely enough, after switching to windowed mode it runs just fine aside from the fact that the window border is an incredible eyesore and you can't align the damned window directly in front of you.

 

I'm not sure what that means in terms of what is the actual cause of the problem, but I'm hoping it'd help you guys pin it down more than it did with me. Too bad Skyrim doesn't support borderless windowed mode, huh?

[skyrimowy]

try this

in enblocal.ini

[ENGINE]

AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=true

[WINDOW]
ForceBorderless=true
ForceBorderlessFullscreen=true

 

and you need to double your resolution in

skyrimprefs.ini

 

 

this should run in borderless window mode without losing quality but I cannot guarantee if this work for you

[Grey Cloud]

This isn't the only thread here in Tech Support dealing with a problem caused by a W10 update. Turn off automatic updates, MS has a long history of updates causing problems.

I'm on Windows 7 and have never used windowed mode. Running the game, or anything else, windowed is a stupid idea to me. The OS has to use resources to run the WoW before it starts on the game.

Isn't there an option in the Launcher (tick-box maybe?) to turn it off?

Also, if you need to align the window with your screen you do it via your monitor's controls.

[Dilios300]

@Grey Cloud

 

Windows 10 doesn't give you an option to turn off updates. Automatic or otherwise.

 

@skyrimowy

 

What if I dont have enb? Or more precisely, an enblocal.ini?

 

@Johnnyred

 

Your solution actually worked. I can now get in the main menu, but this is only a temporary solution and I would like to get the game back to normal (i.e. NOT in windowed mode, and can actually load a save). Much appreciated, though. I can now get in the main menu because of the solution that you found, and it's big step forward.

[skyrimowy]

you can have enblocal.ini without have ENB active - I do it for you in spoiler , but you propably must have d3d9.dll from ENB i don't know how much powerful is your rig  maybe v0.319 v.0305 or 0.266 or lower...

i'm without my skyrim now, so i can't remember if you need also enbseries.ini and just tick

[GLOBAL]
UseEffect=false

anyway, this can give you performance boost, delicate improve graphics - shadows, sharpens edges or something ;P

 

Spoiler

[PROXY]
EnableProxyLibrary=true
InitProxyFunctions=true
ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll
[GLOBAL]
UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true
UseDefferedRendering=false
IgnoreCreationKit=true
[PERFORMANCE]
SpeedHack=true
EnableOcclusionCulling=true
[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=true
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=128
VideoMemorySizeMb=0
EnableCompression=false
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true
[THREADS]
DataSyncMode=0
PriorityMode=0
EnableUnsafeFixes=false
[MULTIHEAD]
ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false
VideoAdapterIndex=0
[WINDOW]
ForceBorderless=false
ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false
[ENGINE]
ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true
MaxAnisotropy=2
ForceLodBias=true
LodBias=-0.35
EnableVSync=true
AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false
VSyncSkipNumFrames=0
[LIMITER]
WaitBusyRenderer=false
EnableFPSLimit=false
FPSLimit=59
[INPUT]
KeyCombination=16
KeyUseEffect=123
KeyFPSLimit=36
KeyShowFPS=106
KeyScreenshot=44
KeyEditor=13
KeyFreeVRAM=115
KeyBruteForce=66
KeyDepthOfField=118
[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]
Enable=false
Quality=2
DesiredFPS=20.0
[ANTIALIASING]
EnableEdgeAA=true
EnableSubPixelAA=false
EnableTemporalAA=false
[FIX]
FixGameBugs=false
FixParallaxBugs=false
FixParallaxTerrain=false
FixAliasedTextures=true
IgnoreInventory=true
FixTintGamma=true
RemoveBlur=true
FixSubSurfaceScattering=true
FixSkyReflection=true
FixCursorVisibility=true
FixLag=false
[LONGEXPOSURE]
EnableLongExposureMode=false
Time=1.0
BlendMax=0.0

 

 

you can change some lines to your liking

ReservedMemorySizeMb=128 /////64 or 256, 384, 512 if stuttering or something, but i think that 128 will be good

everything in [ENGINE]

 

also if you want try my trick with borderless window mode

[WINDOW]
ForceBorderless=true
ForceBorderlessFullscreen=true

[ENGINE]

AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=true

[Grey Cloud]

14 hours ago, Dilios300 said:

Windows 10 doesn't give you an option to turn off updates. Automatic or otherwise.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-stop-updates-installing-automatically-windows-10

14 hours ago, Dilios300 said:

What if I dont have enb? Or more precisely, an enblocal.ini?

Download ENBoost and install as per:

http://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost

 

Never dick about with ini files on the basis of postings in threads. The renderer problem could well be down to your graphics card rather than Skyrim itself.

[Dilios300]

@Grey Cloud

 

I'm well aware that it's not Skyrims fault. I said as much in my original post. ENBoost has always been a fucking pain to install and it's never worked. No performance increase, no increase in stability, nothing. In fact I'm certain the damned thing made performance worse. Thanks for that link tho.

 

@skyrimowy

 

I'll try it, but I'm not hopeful. As I said above, enb has never been easy and the effect in-game is often less than desirable.

[Grey Cloud]

8 hours ago, Dilios300 said:

@Grey Cloud

 

I'm well aware that it's not Skyrims fault. I said as much in my original post. ENBoost has always been a fucking pain to install and it's never worked. No performance increase, no increase in stability, nothing. In fact I'm certain the damned thing made performance worse. Thanks for that link tho.

 

@skyrimowy

 

I'll try it, but I'm not hopeful. As I said above, enb has never been easy and the effect in-game is often less than desirable.

ENBoost is dog simple to install and thousands have benefited from it. Perhaps the problem is you?

[skyrimowy]

ENBoost is must have mod...for low end rigs and powerful ones.

As someone said in nexusmods:

If you do not have it, you propably missed an era xD

I never had problems with any ENB, you do something wrong

 

By the way - ENBoost install on MAIN skyrim folder, not data

[Dilios300]

@Grey Cloud

 

I'll excuse your rudeness, because I'm nice, but try not to be an ass. My most recent attempt to install enb was successful, but I still suffered massive 40 FPS frame drops.

 

@skyrimowy

 

As I said above, its not me, its simply the incredible amount of fps drop that I get from installing it. I'm more than most likely just as experienced as both of you, so dont treat me like I'm new. I get real ornery with patronization. But as for my issue, I would like to not have to have the game in windowed mode.

[LazyBoot]

45 minutes ago, Dilios300 said:

I'll excuse your rudeness, because I'm nice, but try not to be an ass. My most recent attempt to install enb was successful, but I still suffered massive 40 FPS frame drops.

Keep in mind that there's a difference between ENB and ENBoost.

ENBoost uses only the memory part of ENB. So should be able to be installed without reducing framerate.

 

http://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost 

[Grey Cloud]

53 minutes ago, Dilios300 said:

My most recent attempt to install enb was successful, but I still suffered massive 40 FPS frame drops.

Do you not see any contradiction there?

[Dilios300]

@Grey Cloud

 

I dont have to explain how or why it happens to you. Yes, I know how it sounds and no, I dont care. If your not going to help us fix my issue, then go away.

 

@LazyBoot

 

Of course there is a difference. I didn't install ENBoost on that occasion, because I got tired of the massive headache and I just installed ENB (version 3.19, I think). All of this is irrelevent though. I need a permanent fix to the problem I described in my original post.

[Grey Cloud]

Have you tried setting Skyrim's screen resolution to match that of your monitor.

Try reinstalling your graphics drivers from the manufacturer's website. Apparently W10 is known to install its own.

[Dilios300]

I've tried messing around with the aspect ratio and resolution a multitude of times with no effect. I recently updated my graphics drivers from AMD, so thats probably not it either....

 

But I can promise that this is the last update from Microsoft that I ever do.

[Dilios300]

Anyone have any other suggestions?

[bandygirl1]

2 hours ago, Dilios300 said:

Anyone have any other suggestions?

I'm not sure it will help you, or even why it would, but 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/40706?tab=posts

 

I noticed that in one of the comments for this mod, a poster claimed to have the same error "failed to initialize renderer, unknown error while creating renderer" and claims that this mod solved it.

 

Simple as a quick install to check, and uninstall if it doesn't work. Might as well give it a shot.

[Dilios300]

By all I hold holy, IT WORKED!!! ^_^

 

I can get ingame, load saves and everything! Oh my god, I could kiss you! Over the past two weeks over 16 people have tried to help, in several communities, but no-one was even close to fixing it. So I cant even begin to thank you enough for all the time and frustration you've saved me.