Sexout + Workgirl = True.

[Bromm83]

Hello all!

I have been talking with UDLR for some time now about trying to get workgirl to work with sexout in stead of wsex, and I finally decided to give it a shot tonight.

 

I must admit I have cheated. This is merely UDLR's plugin SexoutProstitutes with dialogue. Allthough I did make a few changes.

 

So what have I done?

- Added dialogue to prostitution.

- Added a some rape if you say no to a customer. Or if you ask him to lick you.

- Added a new payment system. It relies on your charisma, agility, barter, speech, how long the sex goes on and how much discount you give. (This was done purely because I broke UDLRs payment system and couldn't find a way to just fix it)

- Added a discount system. If you want to control wich holes or positions you are willing to use, you will have to give a discount.

- Added a random timer for whoring. It varies from 6 to 45 seconds depending on your endurance and random chance.

- Added a random timer for rape. Its just 1-100 / 2

 

 

I want you all just to consider this a test plugin for now.

 

Why do I post it here?

It's merely to see if this is something people want and to get ideas on what to do with this further.

 

Remember: What I did with this plugin is easy since 99% of it was allready done. I just made a few small alterations to get some dialogue into it.

 

Loogie has fixed the dialogue!

Also it should now be possible to have Cass and Veronica prostitute themselves in Gomorrah.

And you should be payed from both UDLRs payment system and mine as of right now, this will be changed soon.

 

UPDATE:

Okies, now I put in a temp random anal anim fix.

It should give most anims a 10 % chance to happen and the doggystyle one a 30 % chance to happen (doggystyle was last in the queue and there were 8 diferent styles)

Also UDLR cleaned it up a bit.

Also I made some changes that should let Loogies Easy flow dialogue work.

11. Sept 2011

 

UPDATE2 23. Sept 2011:

Added Loogies small fixx from 10 days ago or so... I seem to have missed it earlier..

Adds more variation to opening dialogue.

 

REQUIREMENTS:

Sexout.esm

Sexout Data Pack

 

NOTE FROM LOOGIE: Link removed because SexoutProstitutes.esp was ancient and causing bad crashiness. The evolution of this project is SexoutWorkingGirl.esp found in the Tryout plugin pack.

[Guest Loogie]

Want me to make dialog for this instead of workgirl's current whoring, or should I hold off?

[Bromm83]

Want me to make dialog for this instead of workgirl's current whoring' date=' or should I hold off?

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Was going to ask you once I got some feedback, but I won't be changing it during the next couple of days so it would be goood if you could fix the dialogue.

[Guest Loogie]

Cool. I'll finish up workgirl's aftersex menu then get started on this. I guess the ultimate goal is to split the whoring plugin from the sexual demands plugin? If that's the case, I'd recommend calling the whore plugin Workgirl and the other Tryout, unless we come up with totally different names.

[Zhongda]

Yes x1000! I would be very much in favor of this. I hate having to choose between the two, having them work together would be perfect.

[d2vis]

Oooh this is really nice. I am in favor of this project .

[Guest Loogie]

I have an idea to streamline the dialog and whoring system majorly. I've set it up, but I won't be able to test it until a couple of hours from now. I'll post general feedback then too.

[Guest Loogie]

First, what I've done.

 

Real life whores have what they call menus, which is exactly what it sounds like - the high-class whores even print theirs up and present them to customers. It's a list of what they're willing to do and at what price. I've combined the mechanics of the WhoreYes topic with the functionality of the 50% discount topic, dressing up the dialog to look like the player is listing options to the client. The player can offer the client a hole using the "Hey handsome, looking for a good time?" option; the client either agrees or says they want another hole. The list of possible interactions comes up, listed as if the NPC is listening to choices. The player picks the choice they want, sex starts. I think this simplifies the mod for scripting and for the player, and leaves the main dialog relatively uncluttered. As a result of this change, the original topic I've based this off is no longer available in dialog, though I didn't delete it from the mod in case Bromm needs it for something or if I screwed up without knowing it.

 

I removed the option for giving freebies from dialog, but I left it in the code. That's what the tryout part of the original mod is for, as well as Sexout rapers.

 

I really punched up the dialog of the Gomorrah counter girl. UDLR programmed her to be highly reactive to who the player has with them, but the dialog didn't reflect it well. Now it does.

 

There are some bugs. Occasionally while freelance whoring outside of the Gomorrah there were crashes; I don't know what causes this as the outside whoring and Gomorrah use identical topics. Also, none of the topics where there is supposed to be rape (asking someone to lick you, refusing a customer) seem to actually result in rape.

 

Now for suggestions and things that need fixed that I cannot do: There needs to be a block on companions, Legion, (some) creatures and robots for this to work better. Legion takes what they want, ED-E keeps propositioning for sex, wild animals should be trying to get prostitutes while super mutants most definitely should be, and robots sadly lack penises. Also needs to be a gender check for clients; I think part of the crashes I experienced were because women kept propositioning the player. Also, occasionally someone talks to you when you're about to fuck, making your body disappear for the scene.

 

As for the future, we need to add Gomorrah functionality to the Wrangler. Also wouldn't be a bad idea to add coding for the mod to treat Sunny Smiles and the Khan Melissa as companions for both the whore houses and outside whoring; they're vanilla characters with companion mods.

 

Anyway, enough rambling. My changes are below. As a note to Bromm: don't overwrite your current version with this version, because it has some mechanical differences.

[Tregarin]

I like it... only one thing about it. When you offer the discount for a specified hole, why do the NPC's almost always walk off? Surely more of them would agree to this?? (about 1 in 15 agreed to it so far... but it might be that Kings are just picky bastards who need to drug girls to get any... )

 

:edit: Possibly just bad luck... just had a run of npc's that agreed to what I offered. Not getting a single cap out of them while freelancing mind you.

 

:bonus edit: I'm using Loogie's version atm.

 

:extra bonus edit: I'd check to see what it's like inside Gammorah... but any attempt at entering the place crashes the game.

 

:bonus jackpot edit: Wow... it's not this that's the problem with Gammorah... NVRestoration is. Let's see what we get in here now.

[Guest Loogie]

Some things aren't quite feature complete yet, like companion whoring. That might be why they walk off.

 

Also, another small update to the post above - I was a moron and didn't set up the hole offering topics to be random. They are now.

[Tregarin]

*snerk* I'm sorry, but having females using the male "giver" animations is just funny as all fuck! (uses the same dialogue, which just adds to the sillyness... "Would you like my pussy?" "My cock is still messy from the last whore" )

 

Can I just say that I really like the fact that you can currently get approched by both sexes... I know it's not intended, but it kinda isn't right that all those women can't get relief like the men can.

 

:ninja edit: Like the dialogue... it's got a certain "I'm paying you to get me off... shut up and get to work!" vibe to it.

[Guest Loogie]

We're definitely going to need gender checks, though I think it's unlikely women would go after female whores with the frequency they do now.

[Bromm83]

And... Back from work!

 

Thanks Loogie for great dialogue!

 

You will always be approached by both sexes here, I just haven't added the check for different sexes and haven't created the dialogue for female customers yet. (EDIT: As Loogie said earlier, there will probably be a smaller chance for females to approach a female character.)

 

To get the conversation started I had to comment out some crucial lines in the main script for this, which will cause problems with companion whoring. I will be looking into how to fix this in future releases.

 

In the future I will do all I can to make all companions work with this mod.

 

In this mod as in the last I hope to get a functioning strapon. I hope to get UDLR to include it in the main file if possible so that any plugin can access it.

 

Also this will be a male friendly plugin, not a female only as workgirl is.

 

 

Just as a side comment:

I have been talking to Loogie, Riggs and UDLR on some future plans for this. And it seems right now that we will be splitting workgirl into several different plugins.

 

So once I get this plugin working as intended (meaning you can all use it without lots of bugs and it has a reasonable amount of content to call it a "finished" plugin) I will start taking factions out of workgirl one by one as separate sexout plugins. This will unfortunately take some time and patience, but I hope you all continue to help out with bug testing so that we can use the time for actual work on the plugins. We do test some before we put them out, but we really can't test every scenario and have time to do changes at the same time.

[batmantis56]

Great work guys i will follow this thread day to day in hope of updates.

[rainbowdash]

Gave this a try, is it just me or does the Gomorrah receptionist delete all your own clothes when you get your work outfit?

[Tregarin]

Gave this a try' date=' is it just me or does the Gomorrah receptionist delete all your own clothes when you get your work outfit?

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She gives them all back when you're done, and lets you keep the outfit too.

[afa]

Anyone tried pimping out companion? When I talk to the receptionist and tell her only Cass will be working everything seems to be fine at first, her inventory gets clear out and is put on the correct gear while the PC inventory stays the same. In action however NPC seems to approach the PC only and the dialog tree only lead to the PC getting fuck. Nothing seems to happen to Cass.

 

Is that aspect of the mod still unfinished or am I missing something?

[Guest Loogie]

Still unfinished - Bromm had to break companion pimping to make dialog work. He'll get it fixed, though.

[Tregarin]

Anyone tried pimping out companion? When I talk to the receptionist and tell her only Cass will be working everything seems to be fine at first' date=' her inventory gets clear out and is put on the correct gear while the PC inventory stays the same. In action however NPC seems to approach the PC only and the dialog tree only lead to the PC getting fuck. Nothing seems to happen to Cass.

 

Is that aspect of the mod still unfinished or am I missing something?

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Most of it is still unfinished... companion whoring is totally broken atm, as is payment by the looks of things.

 

Bear in mind that this is the very first version of this mod and has only just been started on, so there is a huge amount missing right now. (but we already have some excellent dialogue thanks to Loogie, and something that is usable thanks to Bromm, so it's good so far)

 

 

 

:edit: Dammit... I need to type faster!

[Guest Loogie]

The really excellent bright spot about Bromm breaking companion whoring is that, once its rebuilt, hopefully it will be useable for all non-vanilla companions as well. With the already strong lore of the base game, the functionality of Sexout, Workgirl being taken to levels its creator never thought it would go, and our content fitting so perfectly with the base game, we're going to be to NV what Lovers is to Oblivion.

 

Of course, there's still holes like pregnancy but UDLR and the Workgirl team can't be expexted to do anything. Hopefully what we're doing will encourage more people to use Sexout as the base for their own mods.

[Bromm83]

Yes, companions are completely broken atm, since I just commented out a part of UDLRs script and told em to talk to the player instead. This will be fixed, but companion whoring will probably not start dialogue. If people want it we can probably add it, but why should they talk to the player when they want to fuck the companion?

 

Working on some stuff now, will try to get an update out during the ext couple of hours.

[Bromm83]

Okies, drop the couple of hours comment, I decided to try my ingenious plan first and let you guys an gals be my test subjects. Can people please start the mod and try companion whoring for me now? I don't have any saves with companions at the moment and need this tested.

 

Also another change you can test to see if you like it better or not:

If you choose anal sex and suggest a style, you can now get a no from your customer and have to suggest a new style. Try it out, see if you like it or not. I want some response on this before I put it on the other sextypes, but I think it makes it a bit more realistic. Allthough I am a bit worried that it will become alot of dialogue and little action... So feedback people!

 

EDIT: You will probably get payed twice for sex now (not companions) this is a known bug and will be corrected later if this all works as intended.

[Guest Loogie]

I tried it for about five minutes before the game crashed, here are my impressions:

 

When you ask if an NPC wants your butt, there's only a 33% chance they will. Once you do that, there's only a 50% chance they say yes to your suggestion, then another 66% chance they'll want a different hole. I went through 5 dialog options before I had sex one time, it was kind of frustrating - I think the suggestion I sent you in the PM would go much smoother even though it would be harder to set up. I think I know how to set it up, but I'm not sure and have to leave for a friend's house in about 30 minutes, so if that's not an experiment you want to run now I'll look into it tomorrow.

 

As for companion whoring it works, and it's what crashed the game. First thing that happened was Cass got a customer and Veronica began masturbating before anyone reached her; while I admire her eagerness, the masturbation shouldn't be an option for a companion while she's whoring. While I had sex 2 times because of all the dialog options, Cass and Veronica had about 4 customers each and with poses I never saw before, which is awesome. Problem is a woman went up to Cass and Cass began a pussy licking animation (the one where the girl is on her knees and licking up into the crotch) and the client disappeared. After the sex act the client reappeared, naked, and the game crashed. The timing of when it occurred in the sex act cycle is similar to crashes I experience while freelance whoring. It may be the problem is inherent in the female oral animations themselves, in which case a workaround would be to make the customers male only until Sexout itself is fixed.

 

Back to testing. This is shaping up to be mind blowing.

[Bromm83]

Yes I was afraid of that. Can you look into that idea of yours tomorrow. I really need to go to sleep now... work in about 5 hours.

 

But great that companion whoring is working again! Everything concerning different sexes approaching and things like that is in the scripting and is stuff I haven't touched. But I will talk to UDLR tomorrow and see if he can help me sort out some temp fix there, or permanent. I think I made a mistake when I made this and used the next newest prostitutes plugin, so will try to get UDLR to tell me what to fix there so that it equals the latest release.

[Guest Loogie]

Well, it seems like when there's a female-on-female oral sex interaction, there's about a 60% chance of a crash. Also, companions will whore each other - just had Veronica immediately start eating out Cass and while the pose was really hot, the game crashed. The crash happens in the same place every time - after the orgasm, the person performing the oral sex gets up, then the game crashes right when the person who was eaten out is about to get up.

 

Once the fix for that happens I'll start implementing my idea if it's feasible.