Weird NPC combat bug

[Draknowin]

Putting it simply, I'm running into an odd glitch where most enemies - not all of them, and it's not consistent within a certain faction or type - will be hostile for only a few seconds before becoming friendly/calm. At that point, nothing I do can aggro them - they will just let me slash/burn/freeze them to death without issue. It's... annoying, frankly, because it applies to Dragons too, making them fly around without a care.

 

I've seen the posts that point to Death Alternative and the like being the issue, but the fixes mentioned in those posts have failed to work, so I don't believe that's the problem.

 

Anyone else have this issue, and anyone manage to fix it/find out what's causing it?

 

Load Order in the Spoiler (copied from LOOT)

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Falskaar.esm
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  7  7     WM Flora Fixes.esp
  8  8     hdtHighHeel.esm
  9  9     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
 11  b     SexLab.esm
 12  c     SexLabAroused.esm
 13  d     PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm
 14  e     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 15  f     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 16 10     ApachiiHair.esm
 17 11     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 18 12     SharedSeranaDialogue.esm
 19 13     RaceCompatibility.esm
 20 14     Gray Fox Cowl.esm
 21 15     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 22 16     Succubus Heart.esp
 23 17     daymoyl.esm
           HighResTexturePack01.esp
           HighResTexturePack02.esp
           HighResTexturePack03.esp
           Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
 24 18     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 25 19     Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
 26 1a     LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
 27 1b     Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
 28 1c     Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
 29 1d     CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
 30 1e     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
 31 1f     Book Covers Skyrim.esp
 32 20     FISS.esp
 33 21     dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
 34 22     RaceMenu.esp
 35 23     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
           WM Trap Fixes.esp
 36 24     SkyUI.esp
 37 25     SkyTweak.esp
 38 26     Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
 39 27     Unique Unique.esp
 40 28     Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
 41 29     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 42 2a     HornyDragons.esp
 43 2b     Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
 44 2c     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 45 2d     Helgen Reborn.esp
 46 2e     Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp
 47 2f     Undeath.esp
 48 30     SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
 49 31     DA_Skyship.esp
 50 32     DBM_DASkyship_Addon.esp
 51 33     SoS - The Wilds.esp
 52 34     BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
 53 35     EstrusChaurus.esp
 54 36     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 55 37     DarkManeuvers.esp
 56 38     SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
 57 39     SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
 58 3a     SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
 59 3b     FNIS.esp
 60 3c     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 61 3d     XPMSE.esp
 62 3e     Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp
 63 3f     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
 64 40     Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
 65 41     DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
 66 42     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
           Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
 67 43     HentaiCreatures.esp
           CACO_RND_DestBottles_Patch.esp
           CACO_RND_Patch.esp
 68 44     CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
 69 45     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
 70 46     Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
 71 47     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
 72 48     SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
 73 49     Undeath Immersive Lichdom V3.esp
 74 4a     SoS - The Dungeons.esp
 75 4b     Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
 76 4c     SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
 77 4d     UndeathClassicalLichdom.esp
 78 4e     SMIM-Merged-All.esp
 79 4f     Cloaks.esp
 80 50     Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
 81 51     Immersive Patrols II.esp
 82 52     SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
           DBM_CACO_Patch.esp
 83 53     Skooming Skyrim by BigBizkit.esp
 84 54     CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures+DLC2_Patch.esp
 85 55     BDSICHC.esp
 86 56     SexLab-Parasites.esp
 87 57     HearthfireMultiKid.esp
 88 58     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 89 59     SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
 90 5a     Marriable Serana.esp
 91 5b     BetterDeadThralls.esp
 92 5c     DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
 93 5d     CaranthirTowerReborn.esp
 94 5e     zzEstrus.esp
 95 5f     Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp
           Thunderchild - Dragon Language Words Patch.esp
 96 60     Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
 97 61     dc-untamed-000.esp
           dc-untamed-100-stfu-spriggan.esp
           dc-untamed-100-stfu-wolf.esp
 98 62     SLAnimLoader.esp
 99 63     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
100 64     SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp
101 65     SexLabUtil1.esp
102 66     dD Enchanted Chests.esp
103 67     AMatterOfTime.esp
           Babette.esp
104 68     The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
105 69     SexLabTools.esp
106 6a     Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
107 6b     DD - BRRF_Patch - Cursed Loot.esp
108 6c     DeadlyDragons.esp
           HornyDragonesses.esp
109 6d     Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
110 6e     LandLord_.esp
111 6f     ForgottenCity.esp
112 70     AngrimApprentice.esp
113 71     Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp
114 72     SpousesEnhanced.esp
115 73     DBM_WAF_CCF_CCOR_Patch.esp
116 74     DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
117 75     DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp
118 76     The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
           TropicalIsland.esp
119 77     Real Feeding V3.esp
120 78     Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
121 79     Serana.esp
122 7a     Valerica.esp
123 7b     Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
           dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
124 7c     UnreadBooksGlow.esp
125 7d     UndeadFX.esp
126 7e     Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
127 7f     HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
128 80     Marriable Serana HF.esp
129 81     UIExtensions.esp
130 82     BDIC.esp
131 83     VLCollisionFix.esp
132 84     DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
133 85     VioLens.esp
134 86     SLALAnimObj.esp
135 87     Vivid Landscapes.esp
136 88     SexLabDefeat.esp
137 89     MorePP.esp
138 8a     FNIS_PCEA2.esp
139 8b     FNISSexyMove.esp
140 8c     IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
141 8d     LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - Falskaar.esp
142 8e     imp_helm_legend.esp
143 8f     SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
144 90     LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - HR.esp
145 91     iNeed.esp
146 92     FNISspells.esp
147 93     BlackSacramentArmor.esp
148 94     Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
149 95     Starting Spell Choice.esp
150 96     SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp
151 97     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
152 98     LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - ICW.esp
153 99     LustmordVampireArmor.esp
154 9a     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
155 9b     Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
156 9c     SexLabWerewolves.esp
           Undeath Immersive Lichdom Ordinator.esp
           UndeathClassicalLichdom Ordinator Patch.esp
157 9d     SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp
158 9e     SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
159 9f     LPBards.esp
160 a0     LPBardsAnduniel.esp
161 a1     SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp
162 a2     AchieveThat.esp
163 a3     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
164 a4     KomAnimObjects.esp
165 a5     nazonootokoAnimSLAL.esp
166 a6     Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp
167 a7     Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp
168 a8     Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
169 a9     Remodeled Armor.esp
170 aa     HDTTailsEquipable.esp
171 ab     HAnimations.esp
172 ac     UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp
173 ad     Extended UI.esp
174 ae     Tainted_Blood.esp
175 af     Draconic Bloodline.esp
176 b0     Tainted_Blood_Imperious_Compatibility_Patch.esp
           Sacrosanct - Dark Maneuvers Patch.esp
           RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
177 b1     LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - TGCON.esp
178 b2     LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch - TFC.esp
179 b3     Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp
180 b4     Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
           DBM_DBR_Patch.esp
           DBM_UUU_Patch.esp
           CACO_AOS_Patch.esp
           CACO_CoinReplacer_Patch.esp
           CACO_ETaC_Patch.esp
           CACO_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp
           CACO_GrayCowl_Patch.esp
           CACO_InvisibilityEyesFix_Patch.esp
           CACO_MightyMagick_Patch.esp
           CACO_UniqueBooze_Patch.esp
           CACO_USKP_Patch.esp
           CACO_USLEEP_Patch.esp
181 b5     CuttingRoomFloorRemoveAltArmorEffect.esp
182 b6     MixedUnitTactics.esp
183 b7     12FemaleBrows.esp
184 b8     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
           Starting Spell Choice - Life Another Life Patch.esp
185 b9     Bashed Patch, 0.esp
186 ba     EzEMapSolstheim.esp
187 bb     EzEWorldMap.esp
188 bc     WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp
189 bd     comvex-hmpriestess.esp
 

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[donttouchmethere]

my guess: its from sexlab defeat

after some defeats use the "clean defeat" debug option in the defeat MCM (first page IIRC) -> this should remove the defeat calm from enemys

 

my guess II:

if you get impregnated by estrus spider -> daugr and spiders (they seem to be in the same faction) will be friendly till egg birth

same goes for some parasites effects

[Draknowin]

I checked Defeat and Death Alternative. Like I said, cleaning those and performing the fixes mentioned in other posts failed to fix this.

It's also not just draugr or spiders, it's literally any enemy - Dragonborn Cultists, Bandits, random Vigilants of Stendaar (because my character's a werewolf), even random animals like wolves and, yes, dragons. They become hostile until they get fairly close to my character, then they drop aggro and refuse to become hostile to me again.

[Reesewow]

1 hour ago, Draknowin said:

I checked Defeat and Death Alternative. Like I said, cleaning those and performing the fixes mentioned in other posts failed to fix this.

It's also not just draugr or spiders, it's literally any enemy - Dragonborn Cultists, Bandits, random Vigilants of Stendaar (because my character's a werewolf), even random animals like wolves and, yes, dragons. They become hostile until they get fairly close to my character, then they drop aggro and refuse to become hostile to me again.

You can try checking the affected NPCs in console: open console, click on the NPC (make sure extra info window is open), and hit "shift" while mousing over the various categories on the left hand side.  You should be able to see if they have any magic effects/calm spells affecting them in the spells/magic effects lists.  If you don't recognize the names you should still be able to track down the mod that adds them based on the spell ID (first two digits are the position in your load order).

 

For instance, if Defeat was the problem they would have a bunch of Defeat related magic effects attached to them.

[Draknowin]

2 hours ago, Reesewow said:

You can try checking the affected NPCs in console: open console, click on the NPC (make sure extra info window is open), and hit "shift" while mousing over the various categories on the left hand side.  You should be able to see if they have any magic effects/calm spells affecting them in the spells/magic effects lists.  If you don't recognize the names you should still be able to track down the mod that adds them based on the spell ID (first two digits are the position in your load order).

 

For instance, if Defeat was the problem they would have a bunch of Defeat related magic effects attached to them.

I checked that, and oddly enough, no spells/effects were applied to the NPCs affected by this. There's nothing - that I can see - that should be causing this problem, but here it is, being an issue regardless.

So, anyone have any other ideas?

[donttouchmethere]

just brainstorming:

you could check what factions your PC is in

i use DDe for that, Devious Framework offers that function too, some other mods too, but  i cant remember right now, (or via console)

if there is something odd, just remove yourself from that faction (helped a lot in such cases

 

other issue i had looooong ago was too high charisma, somehow my stats bugged out (bad mods combo) and charisma was so high that i never got attacked, could never slove that

 

check your save game for orphan scripts or broken scripts

 

maybe a sexlab scene wasnt finished -> in sexlab debug MCM choose "end all sex scenes"

 

you got enslaved but never got freed?

 

the mod dark maneuvers has some spells that make NPC to crowards or friends, maybe something is still running?

 

sexlab kidnap got you, but you got away but clam spell is still running (or the quest)

 

 

[Draknowin]

Sexlab Scene - not the issue, 'end all scenes' did nothing.
Enslaved - No, never happened.
Dark Maneuvers - haven't actually gotten to use it yet, so I'd be very surprised.
Kidnap - again, never happened.
Checked for orphan/broken scripts, cleaned them - still happening.

As a test, I threw the Fury spell at someone. They became hostile, tried to attack me, instantly stopped. Then became hostile again, tried attacking, stopped... etc. This is getting really damn annoying.

 

Edit: Also, as a side note, it is REALLY hard to search for this kind of problem online to see if others have had it. -_-

[donttouchmethere]

so best bet is the faction issue

seems you are in a faction that is friendly to all hostiles

> you are stuck in a friendly to all/some hostile factions

> you attack them but SkyTweak.esp will treat the hostiles as friends because of your faction -> you can attack friends and allies, but they wont attack back

 

means you need something to check your factions

 

and yes i find it hard to search the net for this issue too

[Draknowin]

Welp, I managed to revert to a save from several hours earlier, and the bug is gone. I have no idea what caused it, but hopefully it won't happen again.

[donttouchmethere]

lucky you =D

gl

if it happens again, it would be interesting when it happens

[Butch93h]

I had this issue myself until about 30 mins ago and was googling for a solution. This is what I found: 

"so, 2 things you can try.

 

1. Open the console, target your character and type the comand "resurrect 1". However you will lose all active effects including "stone blessings" racial effect will return. or

2. just die. You can also opent the console, target you char and type "kill""

What fixed the problem for me was the first one. Only problem was losing my active effects after that. Still trying to figure out how to fix that but at least enimies attack me now.