Steven3D Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 hello I try to wrap my head about this problem, but I cant find a solution. Thing is every armbinder and similar things (yokes e.g.) from DD let my char standing and walking in the normal animation. The game knows that there is an armbinder because its getting tracked in various ways. So technically the armbinder somewhat works. If I save the game, return to main menu and load then these save game, the animation for the armbinder working as intended. Problem then is, that when the armbinder getting removed the char will still use the idle and walking animation as if it using armbinder, except fighting. Thats working as intended. Sometimes but not always its helping when I equip an other hand restraint for the back and remove that to get rid off the armbinder animations. Other mods which bringing armbinders and the like to the game, like Zaz expansion thingy, having a complete flawless use for the armbinder without animation problems. I tried various things I found on the web, like rebuild SL animations or reinstall the DD packages but none of these helped. FNIS gets everytime updated when I change animations. Thats my loadorder if thats important: Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 WM Flora Fixes.esp 7 7 hdtHighHeel.esm 8 8 RaceCompatibility.esm 9 9 ApachiiHair.esm 10 a ApachiiHairFemales.esm 11 b Heels Sound.esm 12 c HmmWhatToWear.esm 13 d HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm 14 e SexLab.esm 15 f SexLabAroused.esm 16 10 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 18 12 Nock2Tip.esm 19 13 Campfire.esm 20 14 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 21 15 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 22 16 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 23 17 CreatureFramework.esm 24 18 EFFCore.esm 25 19 daymoyl.esm 26 1a Heretical Resources.esm 27 1b ZazExtensionPack.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 28 1c Cutting Room Floor.esp 29 1d SkyUI.esp 30 1e FISS.esp 31 1f Dead Body Collision.esp 32 20 Paralysis.esp 33 21 RaceMenu.esp 34 22 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 35 23 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 36 24 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 37 25 XPMSE.esp 38 26 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 39 27 AHZmoreHUD.esp 40 28 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 41 29 NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp 42 2a Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 43 2b RaceMenuOverlays.esp 44 2c FNIS.esp 45 2d The Ningheim.esp 46 2e RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp 47 2f UIExtensions.esp 48 30 AddItemMenu2.esp 49 31 RealisticRoomRental.esp 50 32 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 51 33 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 52 34 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 53 35 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 54 36 DARKDUNGEONS.esp 55 37 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 56 38 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 57 39 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 58 3a NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp 59 3b DenserGrass.esp 60 3c ImmersiveFP.esp 61 3d sr_ifpssl.esp 62 3e Quieter Dungeons DG.esp 63 3f SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 64 40 zaz-craft.esp 65 41 ExtraPocket.esp 66 42 TaraOffsetBondagePack.esp 67 43 DeviousTraining.esp 68 44 SimpleMasochism.esp 69 45 SexLabDefeat.esp 70 46 SLA Monitor Widget.esp 71 47 SkyTweak.esp 72 48 moveit.esp 73 49 Proper Aiming.esp 74 4a vAutosaveManager.esp 75 4b Mercy.esp 76 4c AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp 77 4d abotFiresHurt.esp 78 4e LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp 79 4f iActivate.esp 80 50 AnonymousPeople.esp 81 51 SleepTight.esp 82 52 TakeNotes.esp 83 53 Immersive detection of NPC.esp 84 54 Immersive NPC in the dark.esp 85 55 PumpingIron.esp 86 56 WitchTent.esp 87 57 NoPsychicLockKnowledge.esp 88 58 AMatterOfTime.esp 89 59 sr_FillHerUp.esp 90 5a DibellanDefender.esp 91 5b Ixums_tattoos1.esp 92 5c JexTats.esp 93 5d HDTSextoys.esp 94 5e SerialStrip.esp 95 5f SerialStripper.esp 96 60 Cherrypie.esp 97 61 SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp 98 62 SLAnimLoader.esp 99 63 SlaveTats.esp 100 64 SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon.esp 101 65 iHUD.esp 102 66 iActivate Patch.esp 103 67 Immersive Arousal.esp 104 68 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 105 69 SIM-Remove Locations.esp 106 6a iLuvLoading.esp 107 6b LessIntrusiveHUD.esp 108 6c GoToBed.esp 109 6d SLALAnimObj.esp 110 6e SexLabTools.esp 111 6f Realistic crime report radius.esp 112 70 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 113 71 Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp 114 72 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 115 73 Devious Attributes - Devious Consequences.esp 116 74 Ig-lee.esp 117 75 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 118 76 KomAnimObjects.esp 119 77 SexLab Cumshot.esp 120 78 UnreadBooksGlow.esp 121 79 VioLens.esp 122 7a Immersive Jewelry.esp 123 7b Rebirth Monster.esp 124 7c SD Cages.esp 125 7d xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 126 7e OBIS.esp 127 7f Ambriel.esp 128 80 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 129 81 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 130 82 Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp 131 83 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 132 84 BIG_ARMOR.esp 133 85 OBISDB.esp 134 86 OBIS Loot.esp 135 87 Immersive Weapons.esp 136 88 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 137 89 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 138 8a Captured Dreams.esp 139 8b MoreNastyCritters.esp 140 8c BIG_CLOTHING.esp 141 8d DD-HC-ArmorBlock.esp 142 8e PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 143 8f Training Dummies XP.esp 144 90 SexyBanditCaptives.esp 145 91 NARC.esp 146 92 TheChoiceIsYours.esp 147 93 BIG_WEAPON.esp 148 94 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 149 95 PP AND BEASTESS LAIR.esp 150 96 SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp 151 97 Escape the Cell.esp 152 98 Run For Your Lives.esp 153 99 SexLab Beastess.esp 154 9a sanguinesDebauchery.esp 155 9b Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 156 9c Nock2Tip.esp 157 9d SimpleSlavery.esp 158 9e Immersive Wenches.esp 159 9f Hunterborn.esp 160 a0 GetStripped.esp 161 a1 sr_FillThemUp.esp 162 a2 Frostfall.esp 163 a3 Disparity.esp 164 a4 BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp 165 a5 SofiaFollower.esp 166 a6 SexLab-Parasites.esp 167 a7 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 168 a8 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp 169 a9 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 170 aa TimingIsEverything.esp 171 ab Bandit Patrols.esp 172 ac SL99Exchanger.esp 173 ad Deviously Enslaved.esp 174 ae maya.esp 175 af daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp 176 b0 Sneak Tools.esp 177 b1 LunariWarriors.esp 178 b2 SkyDreamMaidens.esp 179 b3 SD Addons.esp 180 b4 BagofTrashNG.esp 181 b5 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp 182 b6 Vivid Weathers.esp 183 b7 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp 184 b8 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 185 b9 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 186 ba Naked Dungeons.esp 187 bb PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp 188 bc PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 189 bd sandboxcylinderheight.esp 190 be Training Dummies XP Dawnguard.esp 191 bf Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp 192 c0 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 193 c1 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp 194 c2 HentaiCreatures.esp 195 c3 yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp 196 c4 SLSW Addicted.esp 197 c5 EFFDialogue.esp 198 c6 HAIR.esp 199 c7 iNeed.esp 200 c8 Beastess Vampire.esp 201 c9 Remove Your.esp 202 ca EstrusChaurus.esp 203 cb KeyHolderQuest.esp 204 cc Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp 205 cd PerMa-Hunterborn.esp 206 ce PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp 207 cf Unique Uniques.esp 208 d0 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 209 d1 Immersive Pet Girl.esp 210 d2 ta4_sver.esp 211 d3 ta4_ris.esp 212 d4 bm_SimpleAction.esp 213 d5 Expensive Investments.esp 214 d6 Expensive Transports 5x.esp 215 d7 OBIS DG Faction Patch.esp 216 d8 FMEA Skyrim.esp 217 d9 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 218 da ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp 219 db ExpensiveSkyrim.esp 220 dc Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp 221 dd Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp 222 de Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 223 df Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 224 e0 ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp 225 e1 SexLabStatsManipulator.esp 226 e2 DanarielStormbow.esp KaceAutoloot.esp 227 e3 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 228 e4 TheCoenaculiUNP.esp 229 e5 YMMP.esp 230 e6 CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp SOS Female Schlongifier (No Schlong Addon by Erundil).esp 231 e7 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 232 e8 Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 233 e9 Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp 234 ea wristbinder.esp 235 eb Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 236 ec ccas_starts.esp 237 ed Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp 238 ee Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 239 ef ImmerSlave.esp 240 f0 ELFXEnhancer.esp 241 f1 ASIS-Dependency.esp 242 f2 PatchusMaximus.esp 243 f3 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp 244 f4 ASIS.esp 245 f5 WTF.esp Anyone an idea? 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LazyBoot Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 18 hours ago, Steven3D said: hello I try to wrap my head about this problem, but I cant find a solution. Thing is every armbinder and similar things (yokes e.g.) from DD let my char standing and walking in the normal animation. The game knows that there is an armbinder because its getting tracked in various ways. So technically the armbinder somewhat works. If I save the game, return to main menu and load then these save game, the animation for the armbinder working as intended. Problem then is, that when the armbinder getting removed the char will still use the idle and walking animation as if it using armbinder, except fighting. Thats working as intended. Sometimes but not always its helping when I equip an other hand restraint for the back and remove that to get rid off the armbinder animations. Other mods which bringing armbinders and the like to the game, like Zaz expansion thingy, having a complete flawless use for the armbinder without animation problems. I tried various things I found on the web, like rebuild SL animations or reinstall the DD packages but none of these helped. FNIS gets everytime updated when I change animations. Thats my loadorder if thats important: Reveal hidden contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 WM Flora Fixes.esp 7 7 hdtHighHeel.esm 8 8 RaceCompatibility.esm 9 9 ApachiiHair.esm 10 a ApachiiHairFemales.esm 11 b Heels Sound.esm 12 c HmmWhatToWear.esm 13 d HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm 14 e SexLab.esm 15 f SexLabAroused.esm 16 10 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 18 12 Nock2Tip.esm 19 13 Campfire.esm 20 14 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 21 15 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 22 16 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 23 17 CreatureFramework.esm 24 18 EFFCore.esm 25 19 daymoyl.esm 26 1a Heretical Resources.esm 27 1b ZazExtensionPack.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 28 1c Cutting Room Floor.esp 29 1d SkyUI.esp 30 1e FISS.esp 31 1f Dead Body Collision.esp 32 20 Paralysis.esp 33 21 RaceMenu.esp 34 22 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 35 23 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 36 24 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 37 25 XPMSE.esp 38 26 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 39 27 AHZmoreHUD.esp 40 28 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 41 29 NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp 42 2a Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 43 2b RaceMenuOverlays.esp 44 2c FNIS.esp 45 2d The Ningheim.esp 46 2e RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp 47 2f UIExtensions.esp 48 30 AddItemMenu2.esp 49 31 RealisticRoomRental.esp 50 32 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 51 33 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 52 34 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 53 35 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 54 36 DARKDUNGEONS.esp 55 37 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 56 38 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 57 39 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 58 3a NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp 59 3b DenserGrass.esp 60 3c ImmersiveFP.esp 61 3d sr_ifpssl.esp 62 3e Quieter Dungeons DG.esp 63 3f SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 64 40 zaz-craft.esp 65 41 ExtraPocket.esp 66 42 TaraOffsetBondagePack.esp 67 43 DeviousTraining.esp 68 44 SimpleMasochism.esp 69 45 SexLabDefeat.esp 70 46 SLA Monitor Widget.esp 71 47 SkyTweak.esp 72 48 moveit.esp 73 49 Proper Aiming.esp 74 4a vAutosaveManager.esp 75 4b Mercy.esp 76 4c AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp 77 4d abotFiresHurt.esp 78 4e LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp 79 4f iActivate.esp 80 50 AnonymousPeople.esp 81 51 SleepTight.esp 82 52 TakeNotes.esp 83 53 Immersive detection of NPC.esp 84 54 Immersive NPC in the dark.esp 85 55 PumpingIron.esp 86 56 WitchTent.esp 87 57 NoPsychicLockKnowledge.esp 88 58 AMatterOfTime.esp 89 59 sr_FillHerUp.esp 90 5a DibellanDefender.esp 91 5b Ixums_tattoos1.esp 92 5c JexTats.esp 93 5d HDTSextoys.esp 94 5e SerialStrip.esp 95 5f SerialStripper.esp 96 60 Cherrypie.esp 97 61 SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp 98 62 SLAnimLoader.esp 99 63 SlaveTats.esp 100 64 SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon.esp 101 65 iHUD.esp 102 66 iActivate Patch.esp 103 67 Immersive Arousal.esp 104 68 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 105 69 SIM-Remove Locations.esp 106 6a iLuvLoading.esp 107 6b LessIntrusiveHUD.esp 108 6c GoToBed.esp 109 6d SLALAnimObj.esp 110 6e SexLabTools.esp 111 6f Realistic crime report radius.esp 112 70 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 113 71 Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp 114 72 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 115 73 Devious Attributes - Devious Consequences.esp 116 74 Ig-lee.esp 117 75 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 118 76 KomAnimObjects.esp 119 77 SexLab Cumshot.esp 120 78 UnreadBooksGlow.esp 121 79 VioLens.esp 122 7a Immersive Jewelry.esp 123 7b Rebirth Monster.esp 124 7c SD Cages.esp 125 7d xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 126 7e OBIS.esp 127 7f Ambriel.esp 128 80 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 129 81 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 130 82 Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp 131 83 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 132 84 BIG_ARMOR.esp 133 85 OBISDB.esp 134 86 OBIS Loot.esp 135 87 Immersive Weapons.esp 136 88 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 137 89 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 138 8a Captured Dreams.esp 139 8b MoreNastyCritters.esp 140 8c BIG_CLOTHING.esp 141 8d DD-HC-ArmorBlock.esp 142 8e PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 143 8f Training Dummies XP.esp 144 90 SexyBanditCaptives.esp 145 91 NARC.esp 146 92 TheChoiceIsYours.esp 147 93 BIG_WEAPON.esp 148 94 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 149 95 PP AND BEASTESS LAIR.esp 150 96 SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp 151 97 Escape the Cell.esp 152 98 Run For Your Lives.esp 153 99 SexLab Beastess.esp 154 9a sanguinesDebauchery.esp 155 9b Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 156 9c Nock2Tip.esp 157 9d SimpleSlavery.esp 158 9e Immersive Wenches.esp 159 9f Hunterborn.esp 160 a0 GetStripped.esp 161 a1 sr_FillThemUp.esp 162 a2 Frostfall.esp 163 a3 Disparity.esp 164 a4 BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp 165 a5 SofiaFollower.esp 166 a6 SexLab-Parasites.esp 167 a7 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 168 a8 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp 169 a9 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 170 aa TimingIsEverything.esp 171 ab Bandit Patrols.esp 172 ac SL99Exchanger.esp 173 ad Deviously Enslaved.esp 174 ae maya.esp 175 af daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp 176 b0 Sneak Tools.esp 177 b1 LunariWarriors.esp 178 b2 SkyDreamMaidens.esp 179 b3 SD Addons.esp 180 b4 BagofTrashNG.esp 181 b5 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp 182 b6 Vivid Weathers.esp 183 b7 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp 184 b8 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 185 b9 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 186 ba Naked Dungeons.esp 187 bb PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp 188 bc PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 189 bd sandboxcylinderheight.esp 190 be Training Dummies XP Dawnguard.esp 191 bf Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp 192 c0 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 193 c1 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp 194 c2 HentaiCreatures.esp 195 c3 yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp 196 c4 SLSW Addicted.esp 197 c5 EFFDialogue.esp 198 c6 HAIR.esp 199 c7 iNeed.esp 200 c8 Beastess Vampire.esp 201 c9 Remove Your.esp 202 ca EstrusChaurus.esp 203 cb KeyHolderQuest.esp 204 cc Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp 205 cd PerMa-Hunterborn.esp 206 ce PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp 207 cf Unique Uniques.esp 208 d0 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 209 d1 Immersive Pet Girl.esp 210 d2 ta4_sver.esp 211 d3 ta4_ris.esp 212 d4 bm_SimpleAction.esp 213 d5 Expensive Investments.esp 214 d6 Expensive Transports 5x.esp 215 d7 OBIS DG Faction Patch.esp 216 d8 FMEA Skyrim.esp 217 d9 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 218 da ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp 219 db ExpensiveSkyrim.esp 220 dc Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp 221 dd Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp 222 de Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 223 df Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 224 e0 ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp 225 e1 SexLabStatsManipulator.esp 226 e2 DanarielStormbow.esp KaceAutoloot.esp 227 e3 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 228 e4 TheCoenaculiUNP.esp 229 e5 YMMP.esp 230 e6 CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp SOS Female Schlongifier (No Schlong Addon by Erundil).esp 231 e7 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 232 e8 Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 233 e9 Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp 234 ea wristbinder.esp 235 eb Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 236 ec ccas_starts.esp 237 ed Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp 238 ee Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 239 ef ImmerSlave.esp 240 f0 ELFXEnhancer.esp 241 f1 ASIS-Dependency.esp 242 f2 PatchusMaximus.esp 243 f3 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp 244 f4 ASIS.esp 245 f5 WTF.esp Anyone an idea? I did notice you're using Devious Device Cutting (ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp). First of all, DD4 has a similar option included now. And secondly, it is relying on overwriting one of the scripts from devious devices. So either it will break DD4 or cutting will stop working, based on which you installed last. Also, I see you're using SL inflation framework. The patch it includes for devious devices is KNOWN to break DD4 and should not be used! EDIT: Another thing, DD-HC-ArmorBlock is kinda old... While it might not break anything, it isn't really updated with the latest changes, and does revert a few things. Though they seem to be minor and probably just could make things weird, instead of breaking things completely. Also seems to be unrelated to the issue at hand, I just figured I should mention it while I was at it. 1 Link to comment
Steven3D Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 thanks for the reply. I'll check if someone of these causing the problems. Currently is DD4 installed last (way down in MO left panel) because I thought that maybe a script overwriting it there. EDIT: also the patch for DD from SL inflation framework is not installed. Link to comment
Addasus Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I'm going to piggyback off of this, because I'm having a similar but different problem in that armbinders, yokes, and straitjackets will suddenly stop working. They'll still show as equipped and whatnot, but the animations don't activate upon reloading, and sometimes when entering a new worldspace. Sometimes reloading or disable/enable or mucking around with the inventory will fix this, but not always. The only mods that I have related to these are the necessary DD mods and ZAP 8 and I'm running on a fresh save. Link to comment
Steven3D Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 So still having this issue and cant wrap my head around where the problem could be: he the load order which is just bare minimum: Quote 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 RaceCompatibility.esm 7 7 hdtHighHeel.esm 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 10 a Devious Devices - Assets.esm 11 b SexLabAroused.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Integration.esm 13 d Devious Devices - Expansion.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 14 e SkyUI.esp 15 f RaceMenu.esp 16 10 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 17 11 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 18 12 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 19 13 FNIS.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp 20 14 XPMSE.esp 21 15 Captured Dreams.esp 22 16 CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp 23 17 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 24 18 UIExtensions.esp 25 19 FISS.esp 26 1a AddItemMenu2.esp 27 1b Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 28 1c Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp and here the left side of MO: (the generated FNIS is not on the picture but the files are in the overwrite. even when they would be not in the overwrite - problem exists) anyone an idea where the problem could be? because on my old PC I hadn't that problem and installed it literally the same way Link to comment
LazyBoot Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, Steven3D said: So still having this issue and cant wrap my head around where the problem could be: he the load order which is just bare minimum: and here the left side of MO: (the generated FNIS is not on the picture but the files are in the overwrite. even when they would be not in the overwrite - problem exists) anyone an idea where the problem could be? because on my old PC I hadn't that problem and installed it literally the same way Are you using a custom race? If so, have you tried with a normal race? Link to comment
Steven3D Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 all tests where made with the standard nord race and the armbinder from devious assets 1 Link to comment
Nenez Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 9:19 AM, Steven3D said: all tests where made with the standard nord race and the armbinder from devious assets I have same issue like this. It was all okay in the past, recently I just installed back my Skyrim and all the mods with latest versions. Only Armbinder and Yoke animations are not working. Of course I ran FNIS and LOOT after each installation of mods. I tested multiple times with just basic SL and DD mods, it still looks exactly like the photo. Checked the animation registry are all on too. Not sure why... Link to comment
Dojo_dude Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 10 hours ago, Nenez said: I have same issue like this. It was all okay in the past, recently I just installed back my Skyrim and all the mods with latest versions. Only Armbinder and Yoke animations are not working. Of course I ran FNIS and LOOT after each installation of mods. I tested multiple times with just basic SL and DD mods, it still looks exactly like the photo. Checked the animation registry are all on too. Not sure why... Do you by chance use PCEA2? Or An alternate mtidle.hkx? Link to comment
Nenez Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Dojo_dude said: Do you by chance use PCEA2? Or An alternate mtidle.hkx? I do, but I tested without installing them, still the same. Link to comment
rindex Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I am having the same issue with the armbinder (character will have invisible hands and stand normally). The elwbowbinder works fine, and the rope armbinder works. But the black ebonite armbinder (possibly all ebonite/normal leather) does not work. Link to comment
LazyBoot Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/20/2018 at 2:48 AM, rindex said: I am having the same issue with the armbinder (character will have invisible hands and stand normally). The elwbowbinder works fine, and the rope armbinder works. But the black ebonite armbinder (possibly all ebonite/normal leather) does not work. Are you running any mods that may modify dd items? Link to comment
Steven3D Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 On 1/1/2018 at 8:39 PM, Steven3D said: hello I try to wrap my head about this problem, but I cant find a solution. Thing is every armbinder and similar things (yokes e.g.) from DD let my char standing and walking in the normal animation. The game knows that there is an armbinder because its getting tracked in various ways. So technically the armbinder somewhat works. If I save the game, return to main menu and load then these save game, the animation for the armbinder working as intended. Problem then is, that when the armbinder getting removed the char will still use the idle and walking animation as if it using armbinder, except fighting. Thats working as intended. Sometimes but not always its helping when I equip an other hand restraint for the back and remove that to get rid off the armbinder animations. Other mods which bringing armbinders and the like to the game, like Zaz expansion thingy, having a complete flawless use for the armbinder without animation problems. I tried various things I found on the web, like rebuild SL animations or reinstall the DD packages but none of these helped. FNIS gets everytime updated when I change animations. Thats my loadorder if thats important: Reveal hidden contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 WM Flora Fixes.esp 7 7 hdtHighHeel.esm 8 8 RaceCompatibility.esm 9 9 ApachiiHair.esm 10 a ApachiiHairFemales.esm 11 b Heels Sound.esm 12 c HmmWhatToWear.esm 13 d HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm 14 e SexLab.esm 15 f SexLabAroused.esm 16 10 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 18 12 Nock2Tip.esm 19 13 Campfire.esm 20 14 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 21 15 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 22 16 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 23 17 CreatureFramework.esm 24 18 EFFCore.esm 25 19 daymoyl.esm 26 1a Heretical Resources.esm 27 1b ZazExtensionPack.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 28 1c Cutting Room Floor.esp 29 1d SkyUI.esp 30 1e FISS.esp 31 1f Dead Body Collision.esp 32 20 Paralysis.esp 33 21 RaceMenu.esp 34 22 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 35 23 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 36 24 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 37 25 XPMSE.esp 38 26 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 39 27 AHZmoreHUD.esp 40 28 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 41 29 NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp 42 2a Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 43 2b RaceMenuOverlays.esp 44 2c FNIS.esp 45 2d The Ningheim.esp 46 2e RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp 47 2f UIExtensions.esp 48 30 AddItemMenu2.esp 49 31 RealisticRoomRental.esp 50 32 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 51 33 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 52 34 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 53 35 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 54 36 DARKDUNGEONS.esp 55 37 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 56 38 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 57 39 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 58 3a NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp 59 3b DenserGrass.esp 60 3c ImmersiveFP.esp 61 3d sr_ifpssl.esp 62 3e Quieter Dungeons DG.esp 63 3f SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 64 40 zaz-craft.esp 65 41 ExtraPocket.esp 66 42 TaraOffsetBondagePack.esp 67 43 DeviousTraining.esp 68 44 SimpleMasochism.esp 69 45 SexLabDefeat.esp 70 46 SLA Monitor Widget.esp 71 47 SkyTweak.esp 72 48 moveit.esp 73 49 Proper Aiming.esp 74 4a vAutosaveManager.esp 75 4b Mercy.esp 76 4c AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp 77 4d abotFiresHurt.esp 78 4e LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp 79 4f iActivate.esp 80 50 AnonymousPeople.esp 81 51 SleepTight.esp 82 52 TakeNotes.esp 83 53 Immersive detection of NPC.esp 84 54 Immersive NPC in the dark.esp 85 55 PumpingIron.esp 86 56 WitchTent.esp 87 57 NoPsychicLockKnowledge.esp 88 58 AMatterOfTime.esp 89 59 sr_FillHerUp.esp 90 5a DibellanDefender.esp 91 5b Ixums_tattoos1.esp 92 5c JexTats.esp 93 5d HDTSextoys.esp 94 5e SerialStrip.esp 95 5f SerialStripper.esp 96 60 Cherrypie.esp 97 61 SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp 98 62 SLAnimLoader.esp 99 63 SlaveTats.esp 100 64 SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon.esp 101 65 iHUD.esp 102 66 iActivate Patch.esp 103 67 Immersive Arousal.esp 104 68 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 105 69 SIM-Remove Locations.esp 106 6a iLuvLoading.esp 107 6b LessIntrusiveHUD.esp 108 6c GoToBed.esp 109 6d SLALAnimObj.esp 110 6e SexLabTools.esp 111 6f Realistic crime report radius.esp 112 70 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 113 71 Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp 114 72 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 115 73 Devious Attributes - Devious Consequences.esp 116 74 Ig-lee.esp 117 75 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 118 76 KomAnimObjects.esp 119 77 SexLab Cumshot.esp 120 78 UnreadBooksGlow.esp 121 79 VioLens.esp 122 7a Immersive Jewelry.esp 123 7b Rebirth Monster.esp 124 7c SD Cages.esp 125 7d xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 126 7e OBIS.esp 127 7f Ambriel.esp 128 80 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 129 81 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 130 82 Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp 131 83 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 132 84 BIG_ARMOR.esp 133 85 OBISDB.esp 134 86 OBIS Loot.esp 135 87 Immersive Weapons.esp 136 88 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 137 89 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 138 8a Captured Dreams.esp 139 8b MoreNastyCritters.esp 140 8c BIG_CLOTHING.esp 141 8d DD-HC-ArmorBlock.esp 142 8e PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 143 8f Training Dummies XP.esp 144 90 SexyBanditCaptives.esp 145 91 NARC.esp 146 92 TheChoiceIsYours.esp 147 93 BIG_WEAPON.esp 148 94 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 149 95 PP AND BEASTESS LAIR.esp 150 96 SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp 151 97 Escape the Cell.esp 152 98 Run For Your Lives.esp 153 99 SexLab Beastess.esp 154 9a sanguinesDebauchery.esp 155 9b Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 156 9c Nock2Tip.esp 157 9d SimpleSlavery.esp 158 9e Immersive Wenches.esp 159 9f Hunterborn.esp 160 a0 GetStripped.esp 161 a1 sr_FillThemUp.esp 162 a2 Frostfall.esp 163 a3 Disparity.esp 164 a4 BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp 165 a5 SofiaFollower.esp 166 a6 SexLab-Parasites.esp 167 a7 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 168 a8 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp 169 a9 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 170 aa TimingIsEverything.esp 171 ab Bandit Patrols.esp 172 ac SL99Exchanger.esp 173 ad Deviously Enslaved.esp 174 ae maya.esp 175 af daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp 176 b0 Sneak Tools.esp 177 b1 LunariWarriors.esp 178 b2 SkyDreamMaidens.esp 179 b3 SD Addons.esp 180 b4 BagofTrashNG.esp 181 b5 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp 182 b6 Vivid Weathers.esp 183 b7 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp 184 b8 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 185 b9 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 186 ba Naked Dungeons.esp 187 bb PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp 188 bc PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 189 bd sandboxcylinderheight.esp 190 be Training Dummies XP Dawnguard.esp 191 bf Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp 192 c0 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 193 c1 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp 194 c2 HentaiCreatures.esp 195 c3 yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp 196 c4 SLSW Addicted.esp 197 c5 EFFDialogue.esp 198 c6 HAIR.esp 199 c7 iNeed.esp 200 c8 Beastess Vampire.esp 201 c9 Remove Your.esp 202 ca EstrusChaurus.esp 203 cb KeyHolderQuest.esp 204 cc Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp 205 cd PerMa-Hunterborn.esp 206 ce PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp 207 cf Unique Uniques.esp 208 d0 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 209 d1 Immersive Pet Girl.esp 210 d2 ta4_sver.esp 211 d3 ta4_ris.esp 212 d4 bm_SimpleAction.esp 213 d5 Expensive Investments.esp 214 d6 Expensive Transports 5x.esp 215 d7 OBIS DG Faction Patch.esp 216 d8 FMEA Skyrim.esp 217 d9 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 218 da ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp 219 db ExpensiveSkyrim.esp 220 dc Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp 221 dd Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp 222 de Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 223 df Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 224 e0 ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp 225 e1 SexLabStatsManipulator.esp 226 e2 DanarielStormbow.esp KaceAutoloot.esp 227 e3 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 228 e4 TheCoenaculiUNP.esp 229 e5 YMMP.esp 230 e6 CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp SOS Female Schlongifier (No Schlong Addon by Erundil).esp 231 e7 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 232 e8 Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 233 e9 Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp 234 ea wristbinder.esp 235 eb Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 236 ec ccas_starts.esp 237 ed Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp 238 ee Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 239 ef ImmerSlave.esp 240 f0 ELFXEnhancer.esp 241 f1 ASIS-Dependency.esp 242 f2 PatchusMaximus.esp 243 f3 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp 244 f4 ASIS.esp 245 f5 WTF.esp Anyone an idea? Well took me a bit time, but finally found the cause of the problem from back then. Zaz has a little checkbox called "override animations if needed". after disabling that feature the armbinder working now as intendend ? But its like always, I just find the solutions for problems I dont search a solution at that moment ? 1 Link to comment
natybs Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Where is that option in ZAZ i cant find it. i have the same problem do i have toi reinstal ZAZ? Link to comment
Psalam Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Spoiler 18 minutes ago, natybs said: Where is that option in ZAZ i cant find it. i have the same problem do i have toi reinstal ZAZ? No you do NOT have to reinstall ZAP. It is in the MCM menu, I think on the first page in the left column. It says "override if needed" and default is "on." Simply click it to turn it off. Link to comment
natybs Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 the chastity belt and corsets are also clipping on my character. I custom built the meshes in bodybuilder. should i make a new character? Link to comment
Nazzzgul666 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 58 minutes ago, natybs said: the chastity belt and corsets are also clipping on my character. I custom built the meshes in bodybuilder. should i make a new character? No. My guess is that either you chose the wrong preset before building them, or you played with the sliders but didn't build a body with bodyslide, or the body was put on the wrong place and is overwritten by another mod. In any case the solution is to build a body, make sure it's actually in use, and build the meshes again fitting this body. *edit* One alternative is that you have a UNP body but chose CBBE when installing DDi, or the other way around. In this case you either need to install the apporpiate body or reinstall DDi (and maybe DDx? not sure rght now) and chose the proper option. Link to comment
natybs Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 OK, and yeah maybe, because i thought it with CEEB, but when i switched it, the gloves are not clipping as well. i am going to reinstall DD and set to UNP body (i think UNP looks better anyway). how do i properly set up a UNP body in bodysldes tho, i didnt touch the sliders, just set it to the defaults. i have to batch build the DD1 items set to a specific body, but how do i make sure that body model is in use in game? i didnt see an option to pick which one to use in character creation, and i have both UNP and CEEB installed on NMM should i uninstall the one i dont set DD to? Link to comment
Nazzzgul666 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Definitly, it's a general rule not to use two mods that do the same thing. Link to comment
natybs Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 i have both flowergirls and sexlab too, but i have a friend who used them both (not with DD tho, not his thing), and they supposedly work find. i have the flower girl sex slave mod but i dont think that should conflict. next step might be to take it and flowergirls out tho. i really like the flower girls mod especially when you can enslave them. Link to comment
natybs Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Also FINS has given me 1 warning, but idk how to see what it is. its always been saying that since i installed it tho and i installed it b4 DD. not sure how to see what the FINS warning is tho Link to comment
natybs Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 ok weird now when i go into body builder there are no presets at all, the drop down box is empty. I am stuck with a random item in the other box too... dont know why im haveing so much trouble with this Link to comment
natybs Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Might be a FINS problem? this is what it says when i update behavior. ive allready reinstalled it thru NMM once... Generator: C:\Games\Nexus Mod Manager\SkyrimSE\Mods\VirtualInstall\FNIS Behavior SE 7_4_5-3038-7-4-5\tools\GenerateFNIS_for_Users\GenerateFNISforUsers.exe >>Warning: Bad installation. Generator not run from <Skyrim_Data>\Tools\GenerateFNIS_for_Users. If you use a mod manager, run FNIS from its list of supported tools.<< Skyrim SE 64bit: ??.??.?? - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam) Expected generator path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\data\tools\GenerateFNIS_for_Users Skeleton(hkx) female: Default (99 bones) male: Default (99 bones) Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ... All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... Alternate Animation mods: 0 sets: 0 total groups: 0 added file slots: 0 alternate files: 0 Creature Pack not installed 0 animations for 1 mods successfully included (character). 1 Warning(s). Link to comment
natybs Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 sorry for all the posts i keep noticing things. after doing all of that, bodybuilder has no UNP body available. the only thing there is the DD equipment and nothing else. goign to uninstal UNP and try CBBE now/ not sure whats going on here but all information online i can find isnt answering anything. they say to put a body model in the body/outfits tab but theres none there. Link to comment
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