Zoophilia with WickedWhims

[kiki7887]

SOO, this thing, about Sims 4 still being worse choice, than Sims 3, is still valid? Just wondering if something changed, over time.

Reminds me SLE vs SSE dispute lol. Kinda.

 

EDIT owait this is about bestiality... i mean kinda in general, tho it probably reflects each other lol

[Neverim]

I'm just thinking about werewolves and centaurs  

[R-Lo]

On 12/01/2018 at 3:31 AM, razzor69 said:

Ah i see so its against the rules of the patreon site that we can't share beastiality, that's bad new then

It's against the patreon rules to use it for such a project, basically any kind of animal porn, rape or child porn is forbidden,

 

However, it's not forbidden to share it here at this site, Loverslab doesn't frown upon this and it's wide open for people to make for the love of it 

[FG13]

Uh... *ahem* the CP stuff is still frowned upon according to the rules of LL. The statement R-Lo made is a bit misleading given the context. The rules just aren't as strict. Also, I think in the context of games Patreon allows things like beastiality. They said rape is fine in books for example, like Fire and Ice/GoT series. Games are basically interactive books. Of course, they also left in that it's up to their discretion so things might still get shut down. Just mark the page as adult content and don't post explicit material for non-patrons. 

https://www.patreon.com/Roundscape

[R-Lo]

20 minutes ago, FG13 said:

Uh... *ahem* the CP stuff is still frowned upon according to the rules of LL. The statement R-Lo made is a bit misleading given the context. The rules just aren't as strict. Also, I think in the context of games Patreon allows things like beastiality. They said rape is fine in books for example, like Fire and Ice/GoT series. Games are basically interactive books. Of course, they also left in that it's up to their discretion so things might still get shut down. Just mark the page as adult content and don't post explicit material for non-patrons. 

https://www.patreon.com/Roundscape

Obviously the child stuff is banned, most users already know this and I wasn't gonna elaborate too heavily on that as I wanted to be sure not to brand rape and animal enthusiasts in the same banner,

 

As far as I've read in the rules, rape glorification isn't tolerated, eg. As part of a book it's mainly portrayed as a negative part of the story and in text, images however, life, digital or illustrated are banned only it's left alone as long as nobody has reported it, Furries are a different matter as they are still perceived as humanoid and intelligent characters, wearing clothes and using tools or operating machinery,

 

A topic focused on rape is basically glorification and probably why Mike24 decided to edit the sounds in his DF package to make it less unconsenting,

 

I've been in touch with patreon staff in the past regarding my own work and they were very black and white in what they've said. 

Rape glorification and anything that sexualises children or animals is not permitted even in an illustrated form.

 

 

 

[FG13]

Seems like different rules for different people or they only care, like you said, if something is reported. 

[R-Lo]

6 minutes ago, FG13 said:

Seems like different rules for different people or they only care, like you said, if something is reported. 

I think it's more about the fact of not being sift through the pages of posts as most don't headline the fact,

A page like Mike's for example isn't solely focused on it so it'll go under the radar for a while, something like AOS however with a defined purpose will have its days numbered,

Most people don't have time or motive to create trouble over it so it's generally left to Patreon staff who can only really keep track of the pages and not so much what's posted and tucked away 

 

Even Pandora Sims has a Patreon, the Redistributing of other peoples work is also frowned upon there too but they seem to get away with it for now untill reports build up

[R-Lo]

24 minutes ago, kingjak said:

So pretty much because all animators are on patreon and can't get patreon bucks from doing beastiality, we won't ever see them

 

boy do I love when people remember me that patreon is cancer

 

Not the case as they are free to share them here, 

Think about it....

If any of the animators wanted to make this they would either requested the feature with everyone else or experimented with the poseplayer just like I have,

Sex animations were around before Turbo created Wickedwhims and were used in the same way via posepack format,

 

This isn't another kindling for a patreon rant,

More a case of why do people have the right to insult us because we don't fancy poking around animals private parts?

 

Patreon isn't the problem,

It rests more with the people who want this feature themselves and are capable, yet wait for somebody else to do it,

In the meantime,

The door is wide fucking open for any newbie to try it,

And making a posepack animation package file is complete child's play compared to a Wickedwhims package so it can all happen very quickly too,

 

I'll help anyone who wants to create for the community and and I'm not alone,

There's a shit ton of help here,

 

It only needs someone with the balls to try 

 

 

 

[R-Lo]

That's just a boring cop-out to the fact that nobody wants to put their name to it but still wants to use it and be honest, if beastial stuff was permitted and paywalled, you'd all rush in to support and praise the Messiah that does it,

 

There's absolutely nothing that says that it couldn't be uploaded here with an option to donate towards the main project.

Why make up excuses rather than accept the fact that it's a taboo that not everyone wants to dabble in, no matter how many times people try shame others for not making it you'll never succeed in normalising it!

 

Personally I came across this site and was on constant watch for girl/girl stuff and only found a lack, 

I didn't bitch about it and start calling them all greedy did I? I did not come here to make dog porn so should I and others feel forced to?

 

As complex as it may look it's possible to learn a lot of stuff on the fly as many people are proving, 

 

The lack of beastiality for Sims 4 isn't an issue of greed, it's lack of interest.

And on the part of the crowd that are on constant look out for it.... The will to do it

 

Patreon flame all you like but it's irrelevant in this matter really.

1 hour ago, kingjak said:

oh yes it is

because if it wasn't for the rules of conduct of Patreon, people would be already racing to make the best animation to lock behind a paywall

just face it, it's glorified paid mods, and the Sims 4 animator community is full of people putting content behind paywalls instead of just adding a donation button like it has always been

and don't give me the "but we give free animations too", yeah like the pusher gives free cocaine to new customers so they buy more the next day

it's one of the worst kind of marketing tactic and people are abusing it with Patreon

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Spinofanatic said:

Very true. Modding used to be something people did for fun, but when Patreon came along, modders got real greedy. Patreon has completely ruined modding, and it's no surprise that piracy sites are doing so well.

 

[R-Lo]

10 minutes ago, Spinofanatic said:

Nope. Even if I had the disposable income, I wouldn't blow it on mods. And I never said I had anything against donations, it's the Patreon paywall I have a problem with.

That's fair enough as you're not alone in that, 

I myself think that animators are charging too much and all the gold, silver and platinum tiers don't really make sense to me as really it's just more of the same stuff in another package and a way of charging twice or more,

 

But it's really not the issue of this thread,

 

The matter is that people want Zoophilia and a lack of being able to paywall isn't to blame for that,

 

The resources are all freely available and only needs people that will be enthusiastic about making it, 

Not because they feel guilty about not doing it,

 

[nutsmcgee]

11 minutes ago, R-Lo said:

The matter is that people want Zoophilia and a lack of being able to paywall isn't to blame for that,

 

The resources are all freely available and only needs people that will be enthusiastic about making it, 

Not because they feel guilty about not doing it,

 

That's true. But it is kinda about Patreon. Like you said, bestiality is against Patreon's rules, and that's probably why it isn't in wickedwhims yet. TURBODRIVER is all about those Patreonbux

[R-Lo]

1 minute ago, Spinofanatic said:

That's true. But it is kinda about Patreon. Like you said, bestiality is against Patreon's rules, and that's probably why it isn't in wickedwhims yet. TURBODRIVER is all about those Patreonbux

 

This is what upsets me a lot!

Turbo has been saying for a year that he's purely working with the base game mechanics and not any expansions,

It's nothing biased towards pack in particular,

There's plenty of stuff like prostitution, rape and more that were requested before this so why should it jump the queue?

 

And besides, if he's not up for researching it and going looking for animal porn sites why does that make him open to all kinds of slander!?!

 

It's as if he and the rest of us creating are somehow duty-bound and obligated to make this?

 

Not everyone has disposable income I understand and please see that not everyone has disposable hours

 

I've already shown that the framework to support pet animations is there, 

Plenty of people are animating without the incentive of patreon, every month we see at least two or three new Sims 4 animators yet none of them are interested doing animals and Turbo or nobody or patreon is to blame for that 

 

 

 

[R-Lo]

One thing to look at is that The staff of this site receive patreon bucks for their mods, beastiality included.

They just simply don't upload it there and handle it all here!

Nothing in my opinion stops any other person or group from doing this for the Sims if they really wanted to,

The ban on rape didn't stop AOS  from running his page and despite his inactivity I think it's still there,

 

Despite my own lack of interest for this activity I'll applaud anyone who does it simply for being comfortable enough in themselves to put their name to it,

Until then, the slander and guilt trips really need to be laid to rest, it's really not encouraging anyone,

 

Kink shaming is against the rules of the site so really it's only fair that those who are not as desensitized not be shamed for that too,

 

It'll happen one day, I just hope that my silly GIFs will speed it up a little for everyone now we know the game can already support custom pet animations,

 

If anyone wants to try, feel free to ask me anytime 

 

 

 

[Elizaurr]

This is so random, but i do love wickedwhims animations, not sure i'd go as far as beastiality 

[Azurada]

If I had time I would actually consider trying to make such animations for WW. While I'm not chomping at the bits for it, I think that as a life simulator, The Sims should only naturally have the option for someone to become intimate with the quadrupeds who occupy their home. It's not like the idea to do so is anything new in real life. It's been around as long as sex itself. Plus, in games like Skyrim, Fallout, and Sims 3, I just find the idea rather funny. Sometimes it's interesting to have a game file featuring a character who's promiscuity knows no bounds. Maybe my police officer Sim would find an easier time relieving stress with McGruff the narcotics detection dog than trying to flirt up the handsome patrolman after hours? 

 

Sadly I don't get much time to really learn the ins and outs of how to make animations. But I don't think that people shouldn't write it off completely.

[nitras]

So what we really need? Animations or modification for WW to add animals?

[R-Lo]

1 hour ago, nitras said:

So what we really need? Animations or modification for WW to add animals?

 

No modifications to WW will be made for this it seems,

But the functions for custom pet animations to be added is there already via the pose player,

 

People seem to be waiting for the framework to be made first that adds all the moodlets, but animations need to be made first,

 

All it needs is the enthusiasm for the topic!

[Guest]

An alternative could be these type of costumes from the Patreon Game "Breeders of the Nephelym" >>>https://breedersofthenephelym.miraheze.org/wiki/Nephelym . A few Accessories and a good skin -  et voilà. Ok ... the Accessories shouldtn dissapear by the animation.

[R-Lo]

15 minutes ago, Holy_Melonys said:

An alternative could be these type of costumes from the Patreon Game "Breeders of the Nephelym" >>>https://breedersofthenephelym.miraheze.org/wiki/Nephelym . A few Accessories and a good skin -  et voilà. Ok ... the Accessories shouldtn dissapear by the animation.

 

Like this as a base and add to the mesh maybe?

http://modthesims.info/d/557301

[Guest]

Hey Thx for the link! Its really hard to find such animalstuff. I tried a little - and it doesnt look very good or aesthetically ... whatever it's funny ;-) 

 

[razzor69]

Well its a Furry, i think furry and beastiality are a different fetish right 

but that man bull is fine, in the sims 4 you can find some of raccoonmen or bearmen, but if you try to wickedwhims them they just remove the clothes because its just a costumes, i think if someone make the penis of em it would be like werebeast in skyrim

[Munken]

yes that is quite right that they are two different things

 

[OTTAVIOFINESTRA]

i dont undestand exist beast for all game but for the sims 4 ...banned ??

[Mariana Soprano]

Heya!

 

I checked beastiality with S3 (male dog), but I m not soo really interested in this. I didn ´t like that male pets (horses and dogs) always run around with hard dicks. So far as I know Mike24 pets animations he did not involved dog bitches (just male dogs) for his animations (thanks dear Mike24!).

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/71906-calm-down-horsey/?tab=comments#comment-1791112&searchlight=1

 

This was (is?) really disgusting, if a user just got just one beastiality sim (dog lover) in game and likes to play 99,8 % non adult with animals like I do.

 

But just for rl like dog breeding dicks are needed (for S3 stallions and the „phantom“ too). But for breeding male dogs do not need a hard dick, because normaly you may see the dog dick when a dog awakes, licking himself clean – but not in mature (because it just gets really big inside the bitch ;-) )

Oh, and if there is so many money to grab with beastiality, maybe Pandora sims is interested not just to steal and re-name mods and animations.

 

I would prefer, Mike24 would give us the honour to take care of the S4 beastie lovers and breeders.
 

[doan77]

9 hours ago, Mariana Soprano said:

Heya!

 

I checked beastiality with S3 (male dog), but I m not soo really interested in this. I didn ´t like that male pets (horses and dogs) always run around with hard dicks. So far as I know Mike24 pets animations he did not involved dog bitches (just male dogs) for his animations (thanks dear Mike24!).

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/71906-calm-down-horsey/?tab=comments#comment-1791112&searchlight=1

 

This was (is?) really disgusting, if a user just got just one beastiality sim (dog lover) in game and likes to play 99,8 % non adult with animals like I do.

 

But just for rl like dog breeding dicks are needed (for S3 stallions and the „phantom“ too). But for breeding male dogs do not need a hard dick, because normaly you may see the dog dick when a dog awakes, licking himself clean – but not in mature (because it just gets really big inside the bitch ;-) )

Oh, and if there is so many money to grab with beastiality, maybe Pandora sims is interested not just to steal and re-name mods and animations.

 

I would prefer, Mike24 would give us the honour to take care of the S4 beastie lovers and breeders.
 

 

pandora never produced anything