Pandorasims is a Thief?

[Poca-chan]

A long time ago I heard a rumor that pandoras steals from other creators and sells it as theirs and I did not know if it was true or not, until today I entered their page and saw that some of their creations are on this page. Can someone tell me if this is true?

[Guest Redabyss]

Yes, it's no news.

[MiniGiles]

Yes it is true. They really became very successful doing it during the Sims 2 era and have been repackaging other people's work with no credit and selling it for years.

 

They have been confronted about it several times but generally nothing comes of it. Other than when they and add other websites with similar practices, started losing money because the repackaged items ( and the few they may have actually made) were being distributed regularly for free on a certain pirate themed site, have they ever really responded but have not stopped their ways.

[.Noir.]

I noticed some weird things on pandora sims a few weeks ago. Specialy the part where is ofering content from others creators. It doesn't makes me angry, I feel shame for this site because in the past it was great, now is condemning himself and It makes look all the great work of many of us cheap and poor.

I really don't want to discuss with this persons or person because is not worth it. Any with a good judgment it will prefer to download the content from the original sites for free than pay for it to someone else.

 

[dardev]

I just see Pandora have a Patreon page ! Having a patreon page and steal patreon creators is in the Patreon rules ?

[Heliotropic]

Their previews page has straight up pulled the stills from the Better Bodies and WickedWhims threads, and they're definitely using JS Sim's Cleavage Overlay.  The Better Bodies preview images aren't even formatted properly for their archaic page layout so they aren't displaying right.  It's like they can't even be arsed to put care into ripping people off.

 

Unfortunately this is a double ended dummy problem.  Sure it takes an asshole to steal creations and sell them as their own, but you need a second party to actually buy from them and encourage that behavior.  Both wrongs need a lot more effort than it's worth to correct so they carry on.

[NaughtyTinkerbellSims]

They're seriously still up? I thought they died out around the middle era of the sims 3.

[.Noir.]

I just see Pandora have a Patreon page ! Having a patreon page and steal patreon creators is in the Patreon rules ?

 

You are right. Even the new piercing set that I made they have it on the web page as upcoming content. And they use my images editions for my own mods too (even for steal is lazy). Practically the pandora sims is taken all the mods from all the creators and using them on his super nude patch.

 

One of the terms of use by Patron says:

• Intellectual Property - Don’t infringe on others’ intellectual property rights.

[DRKN]

That been going on for decades now, adding a Patron page is just a way for them to get even more money.

 

Also its unlikely Patron will do anything based on intellectual property rights, they might do it based on the content type but Patron is ripe for fraud since unlike other crowdfunding, there is no strings attached to your donations, you are giving that person money... thats it when it  bogs down to it.

[.Noir.]

This type of things makes to some creators give up on the creation of new content. Is so delusional that his goals on patreon are 1,000 per month.

[Poca-chan]

Wow. Thanks for answering, I didn't know this was been happing for a while... :/ but still don't get why is there still people paying for it. When You can easy get every thing here ._.

[FzzyDg8]

Personally, I think anyone who knows this is going on should pull their membership in Patreon until Pandora has been banned.  If there are enough discontinued memberships, they might get the hint.

[.Noir.]

The best thing to do as creator is report the account of pandora sims on patreon. (even if you are not member of patreon) because he/she is distributhing his mod with the content of many on this service. I did and I I'll wait.

And for everyone who is reading: Moder or simmer, don't lose your time discussing with this person. If we make the things correctly and respect each other's work with time this will be solve.
 

[ForThePlot]

Never looked in to it much but uhhh

 

The fantastic Fuck (also known as wicked whims..my name is better) mod adds...

It's a whole new level of shameless profiteering lol. Doesn't even try to hide it.

 

Oh, and the website is hideous

[cloop]

les vrais voleurs sont ceux qui vous demande payer pour " baiser virtuellement "   comme turbo ...ou d'autre ...

il y a de tres bon modeur talentueux et gratuit  

Pandora ne fait que voler les voleurs ^^

[dardev]

les vrais voleurs sont ceux qui vous demande payer pour " baiser virtuellement "   comme turbo ...ou d'autre ...

il y a de tres bon modeur talentueux et gratuit

Pandora ne fait que voler les voleurs ^^

 

Donc voler c'est demander de l'argent pour un travail ? Turbo se consacre totalement à la création de son mod et c'est pour ça qu'il cherche à avoir un revenu. Mais comme il est sympa, il offre tout de même GRATUITEMENT son travail à ceux qui ont un tout petit peu de patience...

Maintenant, que tu décides qu'un travail, qu'il soit petit ou plus important, peut être gratuit ou payant, ça ne regarde que celui qui le fait. On n'a donc pas à râler après quelqu'un qui décide de vendre son travail, on peut juste décider qu'on en a pas besoin si c'est payant.

[dardev]

The best thing to do as creator is report the account of pandora sims on patreon. (even if you are not member of patreon) because he/she is distributhing his mod with the content of many on this service. I did and I I'll wait.

 

And for everyone who is reading: Moder or simmer, don't lose your time discussing with this person. If we make the things correctly and respect each other's work with time this will be solve.

 

I just sended a mail to Patreon to report this. I hope they will do something...

On the other side, if they ban Pandora, (s)he will go somewhere else... to many years (s)he make this business

[cloop]

 

les vrais voleurs sont ceux qui vous demande payer pour " baiser virtuellement "   comme turbo ...ou d'autre ...

il y a de tres bon modeur talentueux et gratuit

Pandora ne fait que voler les voleurs ^^

 

Donc voler c'est demander de l'argent pour un travail ? Turbo se consacre totalement à la création de son mod et c'est pour ça qu'il cherche à avoir un revenu. Mais comme il est sympa, il offre tout de même GRATUITEMENT son travail à ceux qui ont un tout petit peu de patience...

Maintenant, que tu décides qu'un travail, qu'il soit petit ou plus important, peut être gratuit ou payant, ça ne regarde que celui qui le fait. On n'a donc pas à râler après quelqu'un qui décide de vendre son travail, on peut juste décider qu'on en a pas besoin si c'est payant.

 

 

je ne peut pas être d’accort avec toi ... faire des mod n'est en aucun cas un travaille ... et payer pour de la baise virtuelle je trouve ca purement ridicule ..de plus quand tu voi le fric  quil ce fait c dingue ... ensuite beaucoup de mode sont gratuit tout aussi complexe et surtout avec moins de bug ..

pour moi turbo est juste un businessman " voleur " mais je connais pas mal de monde qui commence a ce lancer dans le meme genre de mod et " gratuit " ..turbo sera détrôner d’ici peut ^^  

[dardev]

Sorry for the french discussion here...

 

 

 

les vrais voleurs sont ceux qui vous demande payer pour " baiser virtuellement "   comme turbo ...ou d'autre ...

il y a de tres bon modeur talentueux et gratuit

Pandora ne fait que voler les voleurs ^^

 

Donc voler c'est demander de l'argent pour un travail ? Turbo se consacre totalement à la création de son mod et c'est pour ça qu'il cherche à avoir un revenu. Mais comme il est sympa, il offre tout de même GRATUITEMENT son travail à ceux qui ont un tout petit peu de patience...

Maintenant, que tu décides qu'un travail, qu'il soit petit ou plus important, peut être gratuit ou payant, ça ne regarde que celui qui le fait. On n'a donc pas à râler après quelqu'un qui décide de vendre son travail, on peut juste décider qu'on en a pas besoin si c'est payant.

 

je ne peut pas être d’accort avec toi ... faire des mod n'est en aucun cas un travaille ... et payer pour de la baise virtuelle je trouve ca purement ridicule ..de plus quand tu voi le fric  quil ce fait c dingue ... ensuite beaucoup de mode sont gratuit tout aussi complexe et surtout avec moins de bug ..

pour moi turbo est juste un businessman " voleur " mais je connais pas mal de monde qui commence a ce lancer dans le meme genre de mod et " gratuit " ..turbo sera détrôner d’ici peut ^^

Je ne vois pas pourquoi faire un mod ne serait pas un travail ? Ça demande des compétences, du temps, comme pas mal d'autres boulots qui sont rémunérés. Quand un addon des Sims sort, c'est un mod non ? pourtant c'est payant et tu trouves ça normal juste parce que ceux qui le font sont ceux de chez EA ?

 

Quant à la "baise virtuelle" il y en a partout. Depuis les magasines de cul aux films de boules en passant par les sites de vidéo ou de chat en tout genres. Tout ça c'est du virtuel, tu n'a jamais de partenaire réel dans ton lit. Et pourtant tout ça c'est payant.

Ce n'est pas parce que quelque chose n'a pas d'existence tangible qu'elle n'a pas demandé du travail pour être réalisée et donc qu'elle mérite d'être valorisée, par de l'argent en l’occurrence. Regarde aujourd'hui la musique, les jeux, les films, tout ça n'a plus d'existence réelle, juste du numérique qui circule sur le net, et des gens on travaillé pour créer ces choses là, donc ça mérite d'être payé.

 

Maintenant que Turbo soit un businessman, je veux bien, il fait son business et il vit de ça. Mais je ne vois pas ce qu'il y a de mal à ça. Si tu trouves que son mod ne mérite pas d'être payer, tu t'en passes. Mais en plus encore une fois, le mod de Turbo est GRATUIT !  Ne payent que ceux qui veulent le soutenir et en contrepartie ils ont les mise à jour plus fréquentes qu'une fois par mois environ pour la version gratuite disponible ici. Ce soutien lui rapporte assez d'argent pour vivre et se consacrer à plein temps au développement de son mod. Je préfère ça à ceux qui se lancent dans un mod et n'ont pas le temps de le maintenir à jour (comme moi pour la traduction de WW ) ou disparaissent du jour au lendemain en laissant un mod intéressant mais inutilisable.

Et tu dis que le mod est buggué ? C'est marrant, chez moi, il marche très bien, et dès qu'une mise à jour du jeu est diffusée, Turbo réagi très vite pour proposer une mise à jour gratuite du mod pour éviter les problèmes de compatibilité.

 

Je suis aussi très curieux de connaitre les autres modeurs qui feraient des trucs vachement mieux que Turbo, qui bosse sur son mod depuis au moins deux ans... Je n'ai rien vu passer d'équivalent à ce jour...

 

[fordirty]

les vrais voleurs sont ceux qui vous demande payer pour " baiser virtuellement "   comme turbo ...ou d'autre ...

il y a de tres bon modeur talentueux et gratuit

Pandora ne fait que voler les voleurs ^^

 

Feel free to put this through google translate.

 

You might have an argument (not one that I would agree with, but regardless...) if Pandorasims was handing out the whole mod for free. They're not, though. By your logic, Pandorasims should still be the bigger thief by making people pay for stolen content. Besides, as dardev pointed out, WW is free. People can simply choose to pay to support the mod's development.

 

Besides, this is a distraction from the real issue. That being that Pandorasims is still stealing content. Anyone's opinion on paid mods is irrelevant to this discussion.

[.Noir.]

 

les vrais voleurs sont ceux qui vous demande payer pour " baiser virtuellement "   comme turbo ...ou d'autre ...

il y a de tres bon modeur talentueux et gratuit

Pandora ne fait que voler les voleurs ^^

 

Feel free to put this through google translate.

 

You might have an argument (not one that I would agree with, but regardless...) if Pandorasims was handing out the whole mod for free. They're not, though. By your logic, Pandorasims should still be the bigger thief by making people pay for stolen content. Besides, as dardev pointed out, WW is free. People can simply choose to pay to support the mod's development.

 

Besides, this is a distraction from the real issue. That being that Pandorasims is still stealing content. Anyone's opinion on paid mods is irrelevant to this discussion.

 

 

You are right Jmem0. Any one is free to pay or support a mod or creator if they want, no one is forced to do it.

 

And the real problem (as you say) is that Pandora steals to moders and simmers equally. Because who is paying to Pandora will not resive the appropriate support if the mods stop working.

 

Is making profits of the work of other peopole. The same work that the creators give for free many of the times and they continue inverting time and money (because is necessary pay the bills of light and internet too) for updating them without ask for something in return.

 

What this guy is doing is not ok in any level. And as community we need try to do something. We may not get much, but it's better than not doing anything.

 

[Stuzy44]

I think the best thing we all do is in our posts we inform readers.just a little caption telling the problem.As for the people buying these mods (ARE THEY F****** STUPID) when they get it free else where.

[Scorpina]

I think the best thing we all do is in our posts we inform readers.just a little caption telling the problem.As for the people buying these mods (ARE THEY F****** STUPID) when they get it free else where.

 

I Don't think it is so much Stupidity, as As they Simply Don't know. I Doubt Pandora is going bout's Telling everyone "Oh yeah i Stole this from, such and such" Most likely people See things here. thinking they Are Stolen from Pandora. Telling Him/Her that we are Stealing them. and Pandora is acting like They are trying to get something Done. Mind you i Don't know if this is the Case, just speculation. But it seems a Good  Theory as anything

[.Noir.]

I don't blame to the people who is paying for it. I'm assuming that they don't know. So I wrote this text for my blog. Just for let them know about the problem to those who enter. I think is the best I can do from now. I'm sorry if some parts looks like are writed by a child but I'm not really good with the leanguage.

 

 

The Pandora Problem.

If you are a veteran in the sims community and you like play with mods, particularly mods for adults, maybe you know about Pandora Sims.

Pandora Sims is a web site of pay who is offering mods related to adults since The Sims 2. Personaly I'm not very familiariced with the site, because I started playing The Sims 3 and from there making mods for the game.

This problem is something know more by moders and creators than for simmers. And maybe you think that this is nothing to do with you. But maybe it does.

The principal and more importan mod from Pandora is his super nude patch. You can get it if you pay a membership of his web site. In a diferent case it will be a great deal becasuse looks like it have so much to offer. But the relaity is that many of the content from the patch you can get it for free from the original authors.

The creator of the site have the bad habit to take mods and content created by others moders for added to his own mod and charge you for it (if you are willing to pay).

That bad practice discourages to cc makers to continue creating new stuff. And with the time sites like Sexy Sims 2 (a web site with free adult content for The Sims franchise) they have been seen with less activity that in the past.

Resently I'm working more to create cc for The Sims 4. Deppending of wath I'm doing It will take me days, even weeks to finish. Is something that I enjoy to do. Many of what I have done you can downloaded by free on this same blog. Or you can pay for it to Pandora Sims.

Speaking only by my, I never gived authorization to Pandora Sims for distribute my content and use my imagen compotitions for make profits with him.

But I'm not the only person who see his work being sold by someone else. The section for The Sims 4 from the forum Lovers Lab have a big list of topics with moders constantly updating his work. All this makers have the same problem, we can not do much about that but we can let you know for prevent you from being stoled too.

If you want help us. Please download all the content that you get from his respectives authors, and don't support this type of sites as Pandora Sims.

Thank you for take some of your time for read this.

- Noir

 

 

[MrXs1993]

I agree with everyone that said about Pandorasims. It pretty obvious isn't it? Well, Pandorasims should of done is make all the mods and ccs for a good profit. I know it may sound bad when I type it. However, in my version, I want to find a small company like said (TheSims4Maker.com) that make good ccs and mods for the sims 4. Than, we ask them about us selling for it by helping them grow and takes higher percentage of our profit than Pandorasims does. That would be a good business if they can hire me but no they turn me down.