quest Thief

[Highborn]

16 minutes ago, sumoxuan said:

Can anyone tell me how& when can I get my equipment back ? I’m doing the Zoe quest now.

After you get the Thief and complete the quest. But you are near the half of it.

Edited December 25, 2022 by Highborn

[c2o0o0l8]

Great mod, I have played all the way to the Solitude. However, I encounter a bug where after the bath scene, I'm unable to save no matter which option I choose. This last forever even after I meet with Vala and retrieve my stuff.?

[Highborn]

15 minutes ago, c2o0o0l8 said:

Great mod, I have played all the way to the Solitude. However, I encounter a bug where after the bath scene, I'm unable to save no matter which option I choose. This last forever even after I meet with Vala and retrieve my stuff.?

I think the console command "setinchagen 0 0 0" fix this and reenables saving.

 

 

[c2o0o0l8]

2 hours ago, Highborn said:

I think the console command "setinchagen 0 0 0" fix this and reenables saving.

 

 

It says script command "setinchagen" not found.

 

I figured out. It should be setinchargen.

Edited December 25, 2022 by c2o0o0l8

[Highborn]

1 hour ago, c2o0o0l8 said:

It says script command "setinchagen" not found.

 

I figured out. It should be setinchargen.

yeah, my bad. It was a typo

[fbs0806449]

13 hours ago, Highborn said:

Kust: available if we went through his branch in such a way that we still have the opportunity to drink with him in the tavern.
After the first dialogue with him about marriage, you can wait a day and talk to him again, then the heroine will give a hint: get him drunk. You can immediately get drunk with him after the first dialogue about marriage, and watch the standard scene in which a new option will be added.

still cannot get the option to get Kust marriage option, tried many combination of options after the hint "getting him drunk", but the only scene I got was when they are making love heroine called Kust's name and said nothing then the scene ended.

very grateful if there is more specific options

[MrYikes]

5 hours ago, fbs0806449 said:

still cannot get the option to get Kust marriage option, tried many combination of options after the hint "getting him drunk", but the only scene I got was when they are making love heroine called Kust's name and said nothing then the scene ended.

very grateful if there is more specific options

Talk to Zoe

[fbs0806449]

2 hours ago, MrYikes said:

Talk to Zoe

thanks, I must have missed something

[theliddtin]

On 12/25/2022 at 7:36 AM, theman135 said:

My heroine has a dead face in all the sex scenes and only opens her mouth in the dialogue, I don't know how to fix it, when I tried with a lower version (1.3.0), I found it works fine, But in the 1.3.1 version, the heroine started to be expressionless again, I don't know why

 

I would recommend you download the new 1.4 verison, it should be available here.

 

I know for me, I needed that mfgfix mod to make facial expressions function, but as Highborn said, expressions also get stuck sometimes and can be reset in the MCM menu for Thief

Edited December 26, 2022 by theliddtin

[Giga-Bool]

How do I start the marriage section with Lod, I've slept with him but the dialogue doesn't appear for marriage. Zoe doesn't give any option either

[MrYikes]

17 minutes ago, DerekMarquez360 said:

How do I start the marriage section with Lod, I've slept with him but the dialogue doesn't appear for marriage. Zoe doesn't give any option either

You have to fuck him at least once (In his House) and then you have to collect the heart and the root, after you did that talk again to zoe and you she will tell you

[Asuka777]

I have two questions.
1. I returned to Solitude from Skunkway and received a quest to meet Vala, but Vala's room in the dungeon at Castle Dole is locked and I cannot meet her.
2. Depending on the quest, some markers are displayed and some are not. Is this a bug?
 

[MrYikes]

2 minutes ago, Asuka777 said:

I have two questions.
1. I returned to Solitude from Skunkway and received a quest to meet Vala, but Vala's room in the dungeon at Castle Dole is locked and I cannot meet her.
2. Depending on the quest, some markers are displayed and some are not. Is this a bug?
 

1: i think its just a Mod conflict, i got it too a few times but you can just hit "^" leftclick the door and type "unlock" .

2: No its not.

[Asuka777]

51 minutes ago, MrYikes said:

1: Mod の競合だと思います。私も何度か遭遇しましたが、「^」キーを押してドアを左クリックし、「unlock」と入力してください。

2: いいえ、そうではありません。

I'll try. Thank you.

[slayerus]

Bashed patch error

mod_files.py  226 load: Error in DogmaEngine.esm
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bash\brec\record_structs.py", line 613, in loadData
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 2141, in load_mel
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 1738, in load_frag
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 1349, in load_frag
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 1957, in load_frag
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 1822, in load_frag
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 1185, in _read_vmad_str16
UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xcd in position 8: invalid continuation byte

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bash\mod_files.py", line 200, in load
  File "bash\brec\record_groups.py", line 203, in __init__
  File "bash\brec\record_groups.py", line 146, in __init__
  File "bash\brec\record_groups.py", line 221, in _load_rec_group
  File "bash\brec\record_structs.py", line 581, in __init__
  File "bash\brec\record_structs.py", line 410, in __init__
  File "bash\brec\record_structs.py", line 627, in loadData
bash.exception.ModError: DogmaEngine.esm: UnicodeDecodeError('utf-8', b'Dogma - \xcd\xe0\xf1\xf2\xf0\xee\xe9\xea\xe8', 8, 9, 'invalid continuation byte')

mod_files.py  226 load: Error in Dogma - Thief.esp
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bash\brec\record_structs.py", line 613, in loadData
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 2141, in load_mel
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 1738, in load_frag
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 1349, in load_frag
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 1957, in load_frag
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 1822, in load_frag
  File "bash\brec\complex_subrecords.py", line 1185, in _read_vmad_str16
UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xca in position 0: invalid continuation byte

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bash\mod_files.py", line 200, in load
  File "bash\brec\record_groups.py", line 203, in __init__
  File "bash\brec\record_groups.py", line 146, in __init__
  File "bash\brec\record_groups.py", line 221, in _load_rec_group
  File "bash\brec\record_structs.py", line 581, in __init__
  File "bash\brec\record_structs.py", line 410, in __init__
  File "bash\brec\record_structs.py", line 627, in loadData
bash.exception.ModError: Dogma - Thief.esp: UnicodeDecodeError('utf-8', b'\xca\xe0\xf0\xec\xe0', 0, 1, 'invalid continuation byte')

 

[Giga-Bool]

18 hours ago, MrYikes said:

You have to fuck him at least once (In his House) and then you have to collect the heart and the root, after you did that talk again to zoe and you she will tell you

I've done that and her dialogue is still the same, working on it 

[Giga-Bool]

I don't know if I did something wrong or perhaps the save is glitched but I went through the options and there isn't a way to bring up the dialogue for the citizen of Falkreath. They all don't mention it and it doesn't give me the prompt to talk to Zoe about how to do it.

[theliddtin]

12 minutes ago, DerekMarquez360 said:

I don't know if I did something wrong or perhaps the save is glitched but I went through the options and there isn't a way to bring up the dialogue for the citizen of Falkreath. They all don't mention it and it doesn't give me the prompt to talk to Zoe about how to do it.

 

It's hard for me to say for sure, but have you gotten to the point where Zoe tasks you with finding the Dreamcatcher?

 

At that point, you need to try to enter the Jarl's longhouse and the guard will refuse you and say that only citizens of the town are allowed inside.

 

That should be the point where you can talk to Zoe and she'll bring up that you can become a citizen.

 

Let us know if that works!

[Giga-Bool]

14 minutes ago, theliddtin said:

 

It's hard for me to say for sure, but have you gotten to the point where Zoe tasks you with finding the Dreamcatcher?

 

At that point, you need to try to enter the Jarl's longhouse and the guard will refuse you and say that only citizens of the town are allowed inside.

 

That should be the point where you can talk to Zoe and she'll bring up that you can become a citizen.

 

Let us know if that works!

I get to that point, I talk to the guard and he tells me I have to be a resident or a guard. I leave and go to Zoe and nothing happens. She asks how's it going and my only response is I'm working on it 

[Highborn]

31 minutes ago, DerekMarquez360 said:

I get to that point, I talk to the guard and he tells me I have to be a resident or a guard. I leave and go to Zoe and nothing happens. She asks how's it going and my only response is I'm working on it 

Are you using version 1.4+? If yes, try to reload a save before talking with the thief, then use the skip option until the part you have to get the Dreamcatcher (I think it's 0.9), you should start right in the middle of a dialogue with Zoe telling about that option. 

Edited December 27, 2022 by Highborn

[Giga-Bool]

1 minute ago, Highborn said:

Are you using version 1.4+?

Oh shit no, I'm using 1.2.2. damn I'm dumb lol

[Highborn]

18 minutes ago, lampard said:

cant talk to atter at silentwood, hes too busy and like doesnt give a task?

talk with the guy near his door, sitting on a chair. Bother him until he gives the hint to go to the door at the 2nd floor. Interact with the door, and a hunter should appear, talk to the other hunter that says he needs to talk with you in private. That should put you in the path.

 

Apparently you can also wait until 5 pm and he might leave his house and you can talk to him

 

 

[runingjack]

Can we skip dialogues options, fast? They're talking too much, at some point I just stare at my screen until it ends.

[theman135]

Can nemesis be used?

[theliddtin]

On 12/17/2022 at 10:14 AM, Highborn said:

The ones I found I believe are the ones mentioned by Dogma at patreon:

 

 

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1. If you try to trick him into giving the stones:

 

- He will require proof that you're serious, and ask for a whole week of sex, then you have to bargain and say either one night or three days (if you agree with more days he will simply say that he was testing you and won't believe the player anymore because he knows the stones aren't worth that much). After agreeing, they will have standing sex from behind and you have the option to choose anal or vaginal. Then, there is a small scene with both collapsed on the ground and the heroine will get worried about getting pregnant if you chose vaginal.

 

2. After asking exactly what he wants to do, you'll have the option to choose handjob or boobjob. 

 

- Handjob: you can keep doing it until the end and get 3 stones. He will ask in the middle of it for the heroine to use her mouth to cover the tip of his penis for one more stone. If she agrees, she can keep doing like that until the end. But while she has the penis on her mouth, he will ask her to mutually pleasure her. If you don't press the activation button, she will agree and he will carry her upside down for a 69. During that position he will challege her for a duel (minigame). There is the option to listen to him or to refuse. I didn't use the refuse option yet, so I don't know if that leads to the 69 continuation or if that cancels the whole thing. If you listen to him, there is the minigame with the standing sex from behind that we saw in the first option. I always lost the game, so I don't know if something happens if the player wins (supposedly she gets the stone and she is free to go). When you lose, they will argue about the result and there is a scene on the ground with them talking and checking her pussy. After confirming the victory, the player will give him a laying blowjob and try to argue about letting her go to complete the rest of the tests. Tolgan will agree, but will request one more fuck, and he proceeds to ejaculate inside her one more time (same standing from behind position) and she will complain that she is going to get pregnant - if you didn't choose anal before. 

 

- Boobjob: you can keep doing it until the end and get 4 stones. He will ask in the middle of it for the heroine to suck his penis each time when it hits her mouth for one more stone. When she agrees, eventually Tolgan will start to press her head to deepthroat her. There is an activation button, if you don't press it, I believe he will finish on her mouth (didn't test this), but if you press it, she will complain that this is not what they had agreed. Then he will propose her to sex, and if she agrees, they proceed to the standing from behind sex scene (apparently the amount of karma changes this scene a bit, but I didn't try with different amounts). I believe that if she doesn't agree to the proposal, she will just continue the boobjob.

 

- Blowjob: after arguing with Tolgan about the handjob or boobjob, the option to give a blowjob will appear, as the heroine says she doesn't have much time to bargain for stones. I didn't test this option much, but I believe that, other than finishing on her mouth and getting it done, Dogma said that it can lead to the 69 scenario after Tolgan proposes to pleasure the heroine as well. I believe it will lead to the same minigame from the handjob option.

 

Spoiler

I think the options where you choose to leave are bugged--

 

In pretty much any case where you choose an option (paraphrasing here) "Forget the stones, I'm leaving" the the heroine doesn't actually leave.

 

If you don't press the button when he starts to deepthroat her, the heroine actually protests on her own, leading to Tolgan to start penetrating her. At this point Tolgan offers 10 gems to continue, and with high karma you can agree. If you just wait at the choice option the animation progresses further, and at that point if you try to refuse Tolgan just continues anyway. This is the only way (as far as I can tell) you can get Tolgan to have sex with the heroine with no karma (although admittedly you would always have gotten 10 karma from the scene at the hot springs).

 

The three karma requirements that seem attached to Tolgan's scenes are 5, 10, and 20, but it also appears like it factors in if the heroine is "horny" or not. I assume this is if you agree to masturbate while jerking Talgan off (which he suggests if you refused to mouth over the tip of his penis). There's a variable that suggests this too test_mine_Tolgan_IsPlayerHornyForCumAnalFast_var

 

It also looks like there is dialogue based on whether or not Tolgan is horny, as this is also a variable test_mine_Tolgan_Trick_Args_IsArouse_var but I'll have to test out this scene further. Maybe if you leave and come back to the mine? That's what I will test soon. That is how it works! (Or perhaps it's just walking away from the conversation is enough--either way, this means the ability to (trick) Tolgan is no longer successful)

 

I am going to try to compile what I think are bugs or errors and send them to Dogma too, but if anyone else could corroborate these findings that is always helpful.

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by theliddtin