CK2 Modding Quick Question Thread

Alaratt · September 14, 2018

10 hours ago, Buzhidao said:

I have a weird question actually. Is it possible that sometimes the game does not run all the checks for an event and the event fires for characters it shouldn't fire for?

Something akin to your wife accusing you of having an affair when your only lover is your wife. There are conditions in place to prevent this from happening, but the event still fires because reasons.

I know that runs sometimes when your character or spouse has the paranoid trait

Buzhidao · September 14, 2018

2 hours ago, Alaratt said:

I know that runs sometimes when your character or spouse has the paranoid trait

Nay, I'm not talking specifically about this event, I'm asking in general. Can the game skip some of the conditions because of some glitch in the engine or something?

NoxBestia · September 14, 2018

7 hours ago, Buzhidao said:

Nay, I'm not talking specifically about this event, I'm asking in general. Can the game skip some of the conditions because of some glitch in the engine or something?

While it seems like this happens, in most cases I have found that there is either a loophole in the conditions or some other event somewhere forces an event to to kick off that otherwise wouldn't have its criteria met. But I won't say that the engine is without its bugs either.

Buzhidao · September 14, 2018

4 hours ago, NoxBestia said:

While it seems like this happens, in most cases I have found that there is either a loophole in the conditions or some other event somewhere forces an event to to kick off that otherwise wouldn't have its criteria met. But I won't say that the engine is without its bugs either.

Hmm, okay. Let's take a look at a concrete example of this. Maybe I am missing something, even though I've been working on this for 1.5 years.

I've modified the vanilla "SPOUSE SUSPECTS REAL LOVE AFFAIR" event. I've made it so that the spouse only cares about those lovers that aren't also her/his lovers.

My character had 3 lovers:

1) The spouse;

2) A lover that was also the spouse's lover;

3) A lover that wasn't the spouse's lover.

All things considered the lover №3 should have set off the event.

Script (look at my comments in red):

# Hidden start event to set up the scopes
character_event = {
   id = WoL.1000
   hide_window = yes

   capable_only = yes
   prisoner = no
   min_age = 16
   is_married = yes

   trigger = {
       has_dlc = "Way of Life"
       OR = {
           has_polygamy = no
           is_female = no
       }
       NOT = { trait = infirm }
       NOT = { is_inaccessible_trigger = yes }
       NOT = { trait = on_hajj }
       NOT = { trait = on_pilgrimage }
       NOT = { trait = imbecile }
       NOT = { trait = inbred }

       in_command = no

       any_spouse = {
           prisoner = no
           NOT = { trait = infirm }
           NOT = { is_inaccessible_trigger = yes }
           NOT = { trait = incapable }
           NOT = { trait = on_pilgrimage }
           any_lover = {
               NOT = { character = ROOT }
               NOT = { has_character_modifier = wol_court_tomcat }
               NOT = { has_character_modifier = wol_court_vixen }
               prisoner = no
               NOT = { is_consort = PREV }
               NOT = { is_lover = ROOT } The first place where I tried to prevent this event from happening, though it is irrelevant to the current example
           }
           NOT = { has_character_modifier = wol_court_tomcat }
           NOT = { has_character_modifier = wol_court_vixen }
       }
   }

   mean_time_to_happen = {
       months = 360
       modifier = {
           factor = 0.25
           trait = paranoid
       }
       modifier = {
           factor = 0.25
           trait = genius
       }
       modifier = {
           factor = 0.5
           trait = schemer
       }
       modifier = {
           factor = 0.5
           OR = {
               trait = quick
               trait = shrewd
           }
       }
       modifier = {
           factor = 0.25
           has_focus = focus_intrigue
       }
       modifier = {
           factor = 0.75
           trait = envious
       }
       modifier = {
           factor = 0.75
           trait = ambitious
       }
       modifier = {
           factor = 0.75
           trait = just
       }
       modifier = {
           factor = 2.0
           trait = arbitrary
       }
       modifier = {
           factor = 3.0
           trait = content
       }
       modifier = {
           factor = 3.0
           OR = {
               trait = slow
               trait = dull
           }
       }
       modifier = {
           factor = 5.0
           trait = trusting
       }
   }

   immediate = {
       # It is ok for this to be a bit more selective than the 'any_spouse' trigger above, since this event is invisible.
       random_spouse = {
           limit = {
               prisoner = no
               NOT = { trait = infirm }
               NOT = { is_inaccessible_trigger = yes }
               NOT = { trait = incapable }
               NOT = { trait = on_pilgrimage }
               NOT = { has_character_modifier = wol_court_tomcat }
               NOT = { has_character_modifier = wol_court_vixen }
               NOT = {
                   reverse_has_opinion_modifier = {
                       who = ROOT
                       modifier = opinion_cuckolded
                   }
               }
               NOT = {
                   reverse_has_opinion_modifier = {
                       who = ROOT
                       modifier = opinion_cuckolded_private
                   }
               }
               NOT = {
                   reverse_has_opinion_modifier = {
                       who = ROOT
                       modifier = slut_seductress
                   }
               }
               any_lover = {
                   NOT = { is_lover = ROOT } here again I try to remove some lovers
                   NOT = { character = ROOT }
                   NOT = { has_character_modifier = wol_court_tomcat }
                   NOT = { has_character_modifier = wol_court_vixen }
                   prisoner = no
                   NOT = { is_consort = PREV }
               }
           }
           character_event = { id = WoL.1001 }
       }
   }
}

# Ping the spouse
character_event = {
   id = WoL.1001
   hide_window = yes

   is_triggered_only = yes

   immediate = {
       random_lover = {
           limit = {
               NOT = { is_lover = FROM } Okay, here ROOT is my character, FROM is the spouse, so random_lover should have been lover №3, but instead the game picked lover №2
               NOT = { character = FROM }
               NOT = { has_character_modifier = wol_court_tomcat }
               NOT = { has_character_modifier = wol_court_vixen }
           }
           character_event = { id = WoL.1002 }
       }
   }
}

# Ping the lover
character_event = {
   id = WoL.1002
   hide_window = yes

   is_triggered_only = yes
   trigger = { This wasn't here before, I just added it because I was angry at the game
       NOT = { is_lover = FROMFROM }
   }

   immediate = {
       FROMFROM = { character_event = { id = WoL.1003 } }
   }
}

# Spouse suspected of affair - Choices
character_event = {
   id = WoL.1003
   desc = {
       text = EVTDESC_WOL_1003
       trigger = {
           NOT = { has_character_flag = tipped_off_about_spouse_affair }
           NOT = { has_character_flag = spy_spouse_affair }
           FROMFROM = {
               ROOT = {
                   FROM = {
                       NOT = { is_close_relative = PREVPREV }
                   }
               }
           }
       }
   }
   desc = {
       text = EVTDESC_WOL_1003_CR
       trigger = {
           NOT = { has_character_flag = tipped_off_about_spouse_affair }
           NOT = { has_character_flag = spy_spouse_affair }
           FROMFROM = {
               ROOT = {
                   FROM = {
                       is_close_relative = PREVPREV
                   }
               }
           }
       }
   }

   desc = {
       text = EVTDESC_WOL_1003_TIP
       trigger = {
           has_character_flag = tipped_off_about_spouse_affair
       }
   }

   desc = {
       text = EVTDESC_WOL_1003_SPY_RESULT
       trigger = {
           has_character_flag = spy_spouse_affair
       }
   }

   picture = GFX_evt_quarrel
   border = GFX_event_normal_frame_intrigue

   is_triggered_only = yes

   immediate = {
       character_event = { id = WoL.2000 days = 1 } # Chance of levelling up Intrigue skills

       if = {
           limit = { has_character_flag = tipped_off_about_spouse_affair }
           FROMFROMFROM = { character_event = { id = WoL.1025 days = 3 } }
       }
   }

   option = {   the spouse picked this option
       name = EVTOPTA_WOL_1003 # Confront Spouse
       ai_chance = {
           factor = 100
           modifier = {
               factor = 2.0
               trait = honest
           }
       }

       hidden_tooltip = {
           clr_character_flag = tipped_off_about_spouse_affair
           clr_character_flag = spy_spouse_affair
           FROMFROM = { character_event = { id = WoL.1004 days = 2 } }
       }
   }

   option = {
       name = {
           text = EVTOPTB_WOL_1003_F # Confront the Lover
           trigger = { FROM = { is_female = yes } }
       }
       name = {
           text = EVTOPTB_WOL_1003_M # Confront the Lover
           trigger = { FROM = { is_female = no } }
       }
       ai_chance = {
           factor = 100
           modifier = {
               factor = 2.0
               trait = deceitful
           }
           modifier = {
               factor = 2.0
               personal_opinion = {
                   who = FROMFROM
                   value = 50
               }
           }
           modifier = {
               factor = 3.0
               is_lover = FROMFROM
           }
       }
       hidden_tooltip = {
           clr_character_flag = tipped_off_about_spouse_affair
           clr_character_flag = spy_spouse_affair
           FROM = { character_event = { id = WoL.1033 days = 2 } }
       }
   }

   option = {
       name = EVTOPTC_WOL_1003_HOMO_F # Two women? Who cares...
       trigger = {
           FROM = { is_female = yes }
           FROMFROM = { is_female = yes }
       }
       ai_chance = {
           factor = 100
       }
       clr_character_flag = tipped_off_about_spouse_affair
       clr_character_flag = spy_spouse_affair
   }

   option = {
       name = EVTOPTC_WOL_1003 # Focus on more important matters
       trigger = {
           OR = {
               FROM = { is_female = no }
               FROMFROM = { is_female = no }
           }
       }

       ai_chance = {
           factor = 1
           modifier = {
               factor = 500.0
               trait = craven
           }
       }

       if = {
           limit = {
               NOT = { trait = arbitrary }
               NOT = { trait = depressed }
           }
           random = {
               chance = 20
               add_trait = depressed
               hidden_tooltip = {
                   character_event = { id = 38288 } # Depressed gained
               }
           }
       }

       clr_character_flag = tipped_off_about_spouse_affair
       clr_character_flag = spy_spouse_affair
   }
}

# Spouse is confronted
character_event = { And this was the event my character received, and I was like: "Wait, what?"
   id = WoL.1004
   picture = GFX_evt_quarrel
   border = GFX_event_normal_frame_intrigue

   is_triggered_only = yes

   desc = EVTDESC_WOL_1004

   option = {
       name = EVTOPTA_WOL_1004 # Confess and ask forgiveness (break up with lover)
       ai_chance = {
           factor = 100
           modifier = {
               factor = 3.0
               is_lover = FROM
           }
           modifier = {
               factor = 5.0
               trait = honest
           }
           modifier = {
               factor = 2.0
               trait = craven
           }
           modifier = {
               factor = 2.0
               trait = just
           }
           modifier = {
               factor = 0.5
               NOT = {
                   personal_opinion = {
                       who = FROM
                       value = 0
                   }
               }
           }
           modifier = {
               factor = 0.25
               NOT = {
                   personal_opinion = {
                       who = FROM
                       value = -50
                   }
               }
           }
       }

       FROMFROM = { character_event = { id = WoL.1005 tooltip = EVTTOOLTIP_WoL_1005 } } # Lover notified
       remove_lover = FROMFROM

       FROM = { character_event = { id = WoL.1006 days = 2 tooltip = EVTTOOLTIP_WoL_1006 } }
   }

   option = {
       name = EVTOPTB_WOL_1004 # Cruelly admit
       ai_chance = {
           factor = 100
           modifier = {
               factor = 0
               is_close_relative = FROMFROM
           }
           modifier = {
               factor = 2.0
               trait = arbitrary
           }
           modifier = {
               factor = 5.0
               trait = cruel
           }
       }

       FROM = { character_event = { id = WoL.1009 days = 2 tooltip = EVTTOOLTIP_WoL_1009 } }
   }

   option = {
       name = EVTOPTC_WOL_1004 # Lie and deny
       ai_chance = {
           factor = 100
           modifier = {
               factor = 5.0
               trait = deceitful
           }
       }

       FROM = { character_event = { id = WoL.1022 days = 2 tooltip = EVTTOOLTIP_WoL_1022 } }
   }

   option = {
       name = EVTOPTD_WOL_1004 # Skillfully manipulate (high intrigue)
       tooltip_info = intrigue
       trigger = {
           attribute_diff = {
               attribute = intrigue
               character = FROM
               value = 5
           }
           FROM = {
               NOT = { has_focus = focus_intrigue }
           }
       }
       ai_chance = {
           factor = 10000
       }

       FROM = { character_event = { id = WoL.1010 days = 2 tooltip = EVTTOOLTIP_WoL_1010 } }
   }
}

So above I've posted a LOT of code. TL;DR the spouse confronted my character about lover №2, despite the fact that she should have only cared about lover №3.

Again, this is modified vanilla code, so it's only found in my mod. I've revisited this countless times and for the past few months this event chain seemed to worked as I wanted, until yesterday. I'm inclined to think at this point that this is just the engine glitching out, but I want to be sure.

EDIT: I've realized why the event was firing - the spouse had an intrigue focus and decided to spy on me.

NoxBestia · September 14, 2018

2 hours ago, Buzhidao said:

EDIT: I've realized why the event was firing - the spouse had an intrigue focus and decided to spy on me.

Sometimes it is hard to find all the things that trigger something like this. I had that problem trying to keep some of the bastard events from happening.

joemann · September 15, 2018

Thanks for the comments on the missing capital letter in the event window. In fact it was something really simple (and stupid) I had left a space after the semicolon in the localization files ?

Another stupid (?) question: In an event which is recursive, I want an option to disappear from the event window after it has been used once. So the following time the event fires it shows only three options instead of four. Ideally I would like the option to be replaced by a new one but i'll take it step by step. Is this possible? I have tried the following:

Spoiler

narrative_event = {
   id = RSLCourt.5320
   desc = RSLCourt5320
   picture = suspended_victim
   title = rsl_up_the_ante
   is_triggered_only = yes # Triggered by .5201
   immediate = {
           limit = {
               event_target:rsl_victim_target = {
                                               NOT = {
                                                  has_character_flag = dislocated_joints
                                               }
               }
           }

           option = {
                   trigger = { has_artifact = rsl_the_rack }


                   name = EVTOPTA_Court_5320
                   custom_tooltip = { text = EVTOPTA_Court_5320_TT }
                   narrative_event = { id = RSLCourt.5321 }
           }

   }

   option = { #etc etc

The option should fire if the victim does not have dislocated_joints. I tried it with and without the NOT (just in case)but in both cases the option does not appear in the window.

I know it must be simple but I just can't find it.

Herring · September 15, 2018

@joemann
The immediate section is for executing commands before the rest of the event is shown, it is always executed when the event is fired (Keep in mind that it gets executed after the event's trigger conditions were evaluated) and can't be blocked by a limit / trigger of itself. (if sections in it can be blocked though)

Put the option outside the immediate section and add the conditions from the immediate's limit section to the options trigger section.
Also, remove the limit from the immediate section or the immediate altogether if you don't need it.

As for replacing, I'm not sure, but try giving the original option this trigger:

trigger = {
	event_target:rsl_victim_target = {
		NOT = {
			has_character_flag = dislocated_joints
		}        
	}
	has_artifact = rsl_the_rack
}

and have another option with this trigger:

trigger = {
	event_target:rsl_victim_target = {
		has_character_flag = dislocated_joints
	}
	has_artifact = rsl_the_rack
}

joemann · September 15, 2018

Tried it and it worked.Thanks a lot Herring!

joemann · September 23, 2018

I just started up a saved game (after a week absence) and suddenly a scripted effect which worked perfectly when I left no longer functions. It is now also recognized by Validator as an invalid node. I did notice that in the start-up screen a new button has appeared "Export Game" Could this be the cause ?

Buzhidao · September 24, 2018

21 hours ago, joemann said:

I just started up a saved game (after a week absence) and suddenly a scripted effect which worked perfectly when I left no longer functions. It is now also recognized by Validator as an invalid node. I did notice that in the start-up screen a new button has appeared "Export Game" Could this be the cause ?

Something vaguely similar has happened to me and the cause was a different mod overwriting my changes.

I have a question: how many times should "on_chronicle_start" events fire? I assumed they only fire once, but so far an event I'd made has fired 10 times already. I didn't forget to put "is_triggered_only = yes" into the event, nothing else triggers it, so what gives?

finkwink · September 27, 2018

Is there any way to create a character as part of a decision and then add that character to my prison? Any help would be appreciated.

rhiper · September 27, 2018

2 hours ago, finkwink said:

Is there any way to create a character as part of a decision and then add that character to my prison? Any help would be appreciated.

Decision like in an event or targeted decision? Well it has to be in an event (fired from targeted decision as well) (look for example at creation of characters in wol seduction folders if you have them) and once you write/code the traits that the character will have upon creation, than write in a hidden modifier or something that will cause another event to fire upon creation that would remove it and throw the character into your prison.

Buzhidao · September 28, 2018

22 hours ago, finkwink said:

Is there any way to create a character as part of a decision and then add that character to my prison? Any help would be appreciated.

create_character = {

# stuff to define the character's attributes

}

new_character = {

imprison = ROOT

}

This will only work in normal (not targeted) decisions because of the scope. Read the wiki on how to create a character you need.

joemann · October 3, 2018

Does anybody know the correct syntax for a random repeat_event?

The Wiki says;

"repeat_event = { id = WoL.5002 days = 30 }

Optional. Number of days to add randomly for the event occurrence date, closed-ended (days to days+random). "

Would this be : "repeat_event = { id = WoL.5002 days_random = 30 }" ?

*lockeslylcrit* · October 4, 2018

On 10/3/2018 at 7:55 AM, joemann said:

Would this be : "repeat_event = { id = WoL.5002 days_random = 30 }" ?

repeat_event = { id = WoL.110 days = 20 random = 20 }

joemann · October 4, 2018

Thanks. A more general question. Sometimes when I am playing a game, I notice an error, save the game and then modify the code. If I reload the saved game, does it continue with the old code or will it read the new code?

*lockeslylcrit* · October 4, 2018

35 minutes ago, joemann said:

Thanks. A more general question. Sometimes when I am playing a game, I notice an error, save the game and then modify the code. If I reload the saved game, does it continue with the old code or will it read the new code?

That's a bit of a tricky question.

In general, if you quit out of the game, change the code, then reload the game, then the game will use the new code. However, there are times when it will still continue to look for the old code, such as clicking on an option that has

character_event = { id = Blahblahblah.1 days = 40 }

and then saving the game and exiting, modifying the code so that it reads

character_event = { id = Blahblahblah.2 days = 40 }

Because the event has already fired and you locked in the option before saving, the game will still try and look for Blahblahblah.1 instead of .2 after 40 days

finkwink · October 10, 2018

On 9/28/2018 at 10:19 AM, Buzhidao said:

create_character = {

# stuff to define the character's attributes

}

new_character = {

imprison = ROOT

}

This will only work in normal (not targeted) decisions because of the scope. Read the wiki on how to create a character you need.

Thank you. That was very helpful.

joemann · October 17, 2018

I have a chain of events originating from a third party decision. The parties are the liege (player) his court torturer ( a minor_title ) and a victim. At some stage it is possible that the victim dies before or shortly after submitting due to its declining health stats . I am trying to create an event that fires when this happens and tried using the on_action trigger on_death.

In the on_action event the dead victim is ROOT. How do I get the court_torturer back in the event?

I tried this:

Spoiler

## death under torture
character_event = {
   id = RSLCourt.5342
   hide_window = yes

   is_triggered_only = yes # on_action on_death

   immediate = {
               ROOT = { save_event_target_as = rsl_victim_target }

   }
   trigger = {
           event_target:rsl_victim_target = {
                                           OR = {
                                               has_character_flag = in_torture_chamber
                                               had_character_flag = { flag = in_torture_chamber days = 10 }
                                           }
           }
   }

   any_courtier_or_vassal = {
                           has_minor_title = rsl_court_torturer
                           liege = {character = PREVPREV }

                           narrative_event = { id = RSLCourt.5343 }
   }
}
narrative_event = {
   id = RSLCourt.5343
   desc = RSLCourt5343
   picture = dead_prisoner
   title = rsl_bungeled
   is_triggered_only = yes

   option = {
           name = EVTOPT_Court_5343
               prestige = -15
               change_learning = -1
   }
}

However, Validator has objections.

--- Error 1 of 1 ---
At <mod>\events\RSLCourtandCommerce.txt [character_event\any_courtier_or_vassal] (Line 3190, column 2):
Invalid node "any_courtier_or_vassal" in scope CharEvent (value is: <a complex type>)

Is there another way of doing this?

*lockeslylcrit* · October 17, 2018

3 hours ago, joemann said:

I have a chain of events originating from a third party decision. The parties are the liege (player) his court torturer ( a minor_title ) and a victim. At some stage it is possible that the victim dies before or shortly after submitting due to its declining health stats . I am trying to create an event that fires when this happens and tried using the on_action trigger on_death.

In the on_action event the dead victim is ROOT. How do I get the court_torturer back in the event?

I tried this:

However, Validator has objections.

--- Error 1 of 1 ---
At <mod>\events\RSLCourtandCommerce.txt [character_event\any_courtier_or_vassal] (Line 3190, column 2):
Invalid node "any_courtier_or_vassal" in scope CharEvent (value is: <a complex type>)

Is there another way of doing this?

The problem I'm seeing is that your trigger is calling for an event_target that hasn't happened yet. Triggers are checked before anything else in the code. The on_action looks at the code and sees trigger before anything else, then moves on to the event proper if the conditions are right. The order of operation is: trigger>immediate>everything else

Try swapping the two around.

Quote

character_event = {
id = RSLCourt.5342
hide_window = yes

is_triggered_only = yes # on_action on_death
trigger = {
       OR = {
           has_character_flag = in_torture_chamber
           had_character_flag = { flag = in_torture_chamber days = 10 }
       }
}

immediate = {
       save_event_target_as = rsl_victim_target
       any_courtier_or_vassal = {
           has_minor_title = rsl_court_torturer
           liege = {character = PREVPREV }
           narrative_event = { id = RSLCourt.5343 }
       }
}
}

Try that and see if it works. You also don't need to save an event target unless the RSLCourt.5343 event calls for it, either in the event code or the localisation (ex: [rsl_victim_target.GetDynName] )

joemann · October 18, 2018

Thanks for your help. I followed your advice and have now combined both events, as follows:

Spoiler

## death under torture
character_event = {
   id = RSLCourt.5342
   desc = RSLCourt5343
   picture = dead_prisoner
   title = rsl_bungeled

   is_triggered_only = yes # on_action on_death ROOT is the dead character
   trigger = {
           ROOT = {
                   is_alive = no
               OR = {
                   has_character_flag = in_torture_chamber
                   had_character_flag = { flag = in_torture_chamber days = 10 }
                   has_character_flag = resisting_ransomee
                   has_character_flag = resisting_plotter
                   has_character_flag = resisting_heretic
                   has_character_flag = resisting_slave
               }
           }
   }

   option = {
           name = EVTOPT_Court_5343
           any_courtier_or_vassal = {
                                   has_minor_title = rsl_court_torturer
                                   liege = {character = PREVPREV }
           }


           prestige = -15
           change_learning = -1
   }
}

However, the event does not fire upon the death of ROOT. Do character_flags persist after the death of a character? If not, I don't really know how to identify the character for trigger purposes. Same question for prisoner = yes.

*lockeslylcrit* · October 18, 2018

19 minutes ago, joemann said:

Thanks for your help. I followed your advice and have now combined both events, as follows:

Hide contents

## death under torture
character_event = {
   id = RSLCourt.5342
   desc = RSLCourt5343
   picture = dead_prisoner
   title = rsl_bungeled

   is_triggered_only = yes # on_action on_death ROOT is the dead character
   trigger = {
           ROOT = {
                   is_alive = no
               OR = {
                   has_character_flag = in_torture_chamber
                   had_character_flag = { flag = in_torture_chamber days = 10 }
                   has_character_flag = resisting_ransomee
                   has_character_flag = resisting_plotter
                   has_character_flag = resisting_heretic
                   has_character_flag = resisting_slave
               }
           }
   }

   option = {
           name = EVTOPT_Court_5343
           any_courtier_or_vassal = {
                                   has_minor_title = rsl_court_torturer
                                   liege = {character = PREVPREV }
           }


           prestige = -15
           change_learning = -1
   }
}

However, the event does not fire upon the death of ROOT. Do character_flags persist after the death of a character? If not, I don't really know how to identify the character for trigger purposes. Same question for prisoner = yes.

To answer your question, on_death fires before the actual death happens. That means the character is still technically alive for the purposes of scripting. You don't need is_alive = yes. You just need an identifiable trigger that will make the event see only that character. Character flags work perfectly fine.

Triggers are filters, essentially. When the event is called, in this case from on_death, it will look through ALL characters that have died that day. The trigger will then filter out any character from that search that doesn't meet the requirements. And because the on_death will scope only to the dying character, you don't need ROOT except when handling other scopes, such as when you want to send a notification to that character's liege for example.

joemann · October 22, 2018

I still have a problem understanding mean_time_to_ happen. According to the wiki, the factors increase or decrease the chance of the (on_action) event happening. The higher the factor the lower the chance (?) What does the operator <days = do>

I have an event onset of menopause. It is an on_ yearly_ pulse event. I want the event to fire after the age of 42 with an increasing chance the older the character gets, influenced by other factors. The way I understand it the on_action event fires the first time on age 42, calculates whether menopause sets in or not and if not fires again at 43 recalculates etc until menopause sets in.

I tried to do this as follows but I have the impression the the frequency of early menopause onset is much to high. What I would like to know is if my understanding of the mechanics is correct and I just need to do some tweaking of factors or weather I am on the wrong track.

Spoiler

## onset of menopause
character_event = {
id = RSLB.904
hide_window = yes
is_triggered_only = yes ## by on_action on yearly pulse
only_women = yes
has_character_flag = has_cycle

age = 40

   trigger = {   age = 40
               is_female = yes

           NOT = { has_character_flag = menopausal }

   }
   weight_multiplier = {
                   days = 360

                   modifier = {
                           factor = 4
                           age = 40
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children = 2
                               trait = temperate
                               trait = curvaceous
                               trait = voluptuous
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 3
                           age = 40
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children == 0
                               trait = gluttonous
                               trait = lithe
                               trait = slender
                           }

                   }

                   modifier = {
                           factor = 2
                           age = 41
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children = 2
                               trait = temperate
                               trait = curvaceous
                               trait = voluptuous
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 1.5
                           age = 41
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children == 0
                               trait = gluttonous
                               trait = lithe
                               trait = slender
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 1.25
                           age = 42
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children = 2
                               trait = temperate
                               trait = curvaceous
                               trait = voluptuous
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 1.10
                           age = 42
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children == 0
                               trait = gluttonous
                               trait = lithe
                               trait = slender
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 0.95
                           age = 43
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children = 2
                               trait = temperate
                               trait = curvaceous
                               trait = voluptuous
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 0.85
                           age = 44
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children == 0
                               trait = gluttonous
                               trait = lithe
                               trait = slender
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 0.75
                           age = 44
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children = 2
                               trait = temperate
                               trait = curvaceous
                               trait = voluptuous
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 0.65
                           age = 44
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children == 0
                               trait = gluttonous
                               trait = lithe
                               trait = slender
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 0.45
                           age = 45
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children = 2
                               trait = temperate
                               trait = curvaceous
                               trait = voluptuous
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 0.35
                           age = 45
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children == 0
                               trait = gluttonous
                               trait = lithe
                               trait = slender
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 0.25
                           age = 46
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children = 2
                               trait = temperate
                               trait = curvaceous
                               trait = voluptuous
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 0.15
                           age = 46
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children == 0
                               trait = gluttonous
                               trait = lithe
                               trait = slender
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 0.10
                           age = 47
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children = 2
                               trait = temperate
                               trait = curvaceous
                               trait = voluptuous
                           }

                   }
                   modifier = {
                           factor = 0.10
                           age = 47
                           OR = {
                               num_of_children == 0
                               trait = gluttonous
                               trait = lithe
                               trait = slender
                           }

                   }
   }

   clr_character_flag = has_cycle
   clr_character_flag = menstruating
   clr_character_flag = ovulating
   set_character_flag = menopausal
   f_shape_grows = yes

}

*lockeslylcrit* · October 23, 2018

Problem 1:

5 hours ago, joemann said:

has_character_flag = has_cycle

age = 40

   trigger = {   age = 40
               is_female = yes

           NOT = { has_character_flag = menopausal }

   }

Fix:

    trigger = {
       has_character_flag = has_cycle
       age = 40
       is_female = yes
       NOT = { has_character_flag = menopausal }
    }

Problem 2:

5 hours ago, joemann said:

   clr_character_flag = has_cycle
   clr_character_flag = menstruating
   clr_character_flag = ovulating
   set_character_flag = menopausal
   f_shape_grows = yes

Fix:

   immediate = {
       clr_character_flag = has_cycle
       clr_character_flag = menstruating
       clr_character_flag = ovulating
       set_character_flag = menopausal
       f_shape_grows = yes
   }

*lockeslylcrit* · October 23, 2018

5 hours ago, joemann said:

I still have a problem understanding mean_time_to_ happen. According to the wiki, the factors increase or decrease the chance of the (on_action) event happening. The higher the factor the lower the chance (?) What does the operator <days = do>

I have an event onset of menopause. It is an on_ yearly_ pulse event. I want the event to fire after the age of 42 with an increasing chance the older the character gets, influenced by other factors. The way I understand it the on_action event fires the first time on age 42, calculates whether menopause sets in or not and if not fires again at 43 recalculates etc until menopause sets in.

I tried to do this as follows but I have the impression the the frequency of early menopause onset is much to high. What I would like to know is if my understanding of the mechanics is correct and I just need to do some tweaking of factors or weather I am on the wrong track.

Now, as for your question, the days = x is (to my meager understanding) how long it has been since the pulse before the random_event factor in the on_action is modified, by the normal modifiers. Every 360 days the event will look at your list of events in random_events and modify the chance based on the modifiers for the next pulse. For example, if you have a random list of

100 = blah.1

75 = blah.2

50 = blah.3

and you have

id = blah.3

modifier_multiplier = {

days = 30

modifier = {

factor = 4

trait = wounded

}

then after 30 days, if you are wounded, blah.3 will jump up to 200 in the random_event list, making it twice as likely to be picked over blah.1 on the next pulse (but it's still possible to get blah.1 or blah.2)

Then again, I could be entirely wrong. There's very little information on the wiki and google searches don't help much. Even the vanilla code is pretty sparse on information.

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